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0:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it 0:08 is not serious. It is not real. No 1 is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you 0:16 anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best 0:24 interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Turn this thing on, turn this thing on. Yo, yo, yo, if you're watching from Florida or anywhere 0:33 sunny, I'm dressed this way with my scarf on because it is officially brick. Officially ice. Outside. 0:41 Officially ice. Ah. That was ice. Oh, god. Don't believe what you see through these windows. 0:50 It looks beautiful. It's not. It ain't. So that's why we look like this. Let's so glad to be joined by you guys right before 0:58 the broadcast begin. I ordered ordered some steak salad. You know, I'm still on my weight loss 1:06 journey. Flip looked over at the bag. He was unfamiliar with the restaurant. Ice, what's the name of that restaurant? Toccaria. Toccaria. 1:15 So then Flip wanted to put an order in. So I asked him a very simple question, which was, yo, so I put you on to that. 1:25 He would think I pulled a gun on him. Like I put you on is like, yo, you trying to, what you trying to do to me? So he 1:33 took major offense. I went on to let him know that ain't the first time I put him on. Like, it's nothing wrong with being put on 2 things. You said that 1:41 and then I actually he said, what else did you put me on to as if I had a list conjured up in my mind. But the first thing 1:49 would be those green sweatpants with the tassels that I wore many years ago. And I came in here, he teased me for weeks, only 1:58 to run out and purchase the same exact ones and wear them every day for 7 months. What do you have to say to that 1? That's a good 1. That was a good 1. I didn't know you put you on that. Okay, 2:06 you didn't put me on to that, I just saw something in my life. That was the NDN on the YMCA tribute. It's awesome. I didn't put you on to that. No, but yeah, what else? 2:15 There's some fragrances. Nah, I'm not fucking out of here. There's some colognes. I didn't get none of that. Where you've got a whiff and say, yo, what's that? And then I 2:23 showed you a bottle. You had? And you was like, nah, on God. And then 1 of them you even said to me, yo, when I got that, yo, I ain't gonna lie to you. So I put you on the 6. So I put you 2:31 on the set so I put you on the clothes Cologne and food my question is Oh manicures. Did he start getting those? Okay, 2:40 he was Okay, he changed up the shit remember What what you change up to I? Was 2:48 getting on the buff joint That's what you put me on to. I know you're not getting gels. I did before. You was getting like refills and stuff? No. 2:58 All right, so that's 4. So that's 4. So that's hygiene, sense. And then hygiene. And then fashion. Watch your fucking 3:06 mouth. You ain't put me. Food. Food and fashion. Amandacure don't fall under hygiene? Hey, listen, you ain't put me on me and hygiene. Here's the thing. It is, 3:14 right? Wait, I'm getting my list. Don't touch me. I'm getting my list. Hygiene, sense. Scent. Scent. Scent, but 3:22 food. And sense. Clothes. And fashion. You put me on a sense too? Oh, and sense. That's a double entendre. You're a little more sensical 3:31 now than you were. A little coin. That wasn't it. That's a triple. Triple. Wow. A little what? I didn't hear it. A little more sensical. Sents and scents. 3:39 All the senses. Here's the thing. The pants that, yes, the pants, I liked it. And I got it. I saw it in the store. I liked it. 3:47 I got it. Fragrance? Never. No. I did tell you that I liked some of this, you know, the shit that you gave me the name of it, I didn't buy any of those. The only thing 3:56 I heard you talk about 1 time was the buff joint. And so that could be 2. That's about it. Do you put Joe 4:04 on anything? Yes. Give us some examples. Content 4:13 shit. I get my entire content strategy from you. Content shit, but I don't need to get into all that. I don't need to get into all that. I get my entire content 4:21 strategy. We know what I put you on to. I don't need to get into all that. I don't need to get into all that. I get my entire content strategy answered. We know what I put you on to. I don't need to get into all that. I'm not gonna allow you to instigate or try to get me to go back and forth with you. You put me on to 4:30 whatever you think you put me on to, I don't really think it's that much, but still. I was only asking the room, how many put-ons before somebody is 4:38 indeed sund out? Oh. I think it depends on if they even or not. Like you can put your man on to 10 things, he put you on to 10 4:46 things. Then it's, there's no sunders. You and Ish, I'm sure you put each other on the shit, so it's no sund out. I gotta do some thinking. Look at your man trying to start trouble. I 4:55 gotta do something. We can get back to that. I'm not gonna let him divide us right now. Just Throw a piece of meat on the ground. We gotta see. But all right, 5:03 so how many? You think I'm sundy? No. How many? Oh, shit. Oh, damn. I didn't want to know how many put-ons before somebody. 5:11 Of course you're going to do that, nigga, because he put you on the shit. Of course you're going to do that. Me, yo. That's what I'm doing. He put you on the shit, nigga. I think it matters what the put on is if the put on makes 5:19 up your whole fabric of being then And we know and we know that's not the case Yeah, I'll dig it is yeah, so I mean just some pants. 5:28 Yeah, and a cologne You 5:38 gotta do that you gotta do that to me cuz I Can't argue back and forth with him he can't do that do you I think has been in the same field playing around with You gotta do that 5:48 Contest shit I put you on the shit nigga. See how we had came in? You said that already. Come on. And I said that for you, so that's 1. This was in the veins, nigga. Stop, there's no 1 else. It became in the vein, nigga. It was the vein 5:56 of the shit, nigga. It was a fucking adrenaline rush. Watch your mouth when you talk to me. You put me on the 1 that I got the pants and the buffs. So that's 1. The pants and 6:04 the buff shit. That's it, nigga. I didn't get no fragrances you had. The food shit, I just threw it there. I don't know who bought it. Was that your first 6:12 time at Catch Steak? No. You told me it was. I'm not lying. When we went, you told me it was. No it wasn't. You 6:22 used to call it catch a steak. Oh shit. Oh shit. Nah. Why is being 6:30 put on to something in art and art? Why is it the worst? No, I was about to say cause the nigga that dude put on ain't 6:38 putting you on sincerely, they putting you on so they can come back to me like, oh, that's my little man right here. My Joon Joon. That 6:46 nigga smell like chicken fingers. But I don't treat Flip or anybody else that I put on the mad shit without 6:55 being put on the same amount of shit. Okay, you invited me over there, I remember. I don't treat nobody like that. This only comes up because he asked, hey, 7:04 what'd you put me on to? I didn't have the list conjured up, even though I think I did a pretty good job off the dome. I hate the way you tell a story. Look, 7:13 I'ma help you out. Cause you know what I mean? Bruh, you say, yeah, it's 1 of the, you know what I mean? Put you on something else. You stressed to something else. 7:21 So now he gonna say, what else you want? Yeah. You just changed my shit. Cause when I put them on to the food, I didn't say, I put you on to something. You did not put me on to the food, 7:29 nigga. I saw the food. That I ordered. I don't know if you ordered it or not. I'm telling you, I ordered. OK, look at the receipt. I look at it. Say 7:38 dad. Oh, shit. It's a big flip. It's a whole. Flip senior. Come 7:49 home. Look. Flip senior. Oh shit. I'm home. Oh, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, flip. I got it. I got it. I 8:01 just think that in our culture crazy like putting on should be we need to change whatever 8:17 you think you put me on to is minute to what I put you want you to me I asked you for the list whatever you want to do what I put you want to 8:25 Became fat but those are materialistic things like with a nigga What did you put me on? It doesn't even matter. You gave 8:34 him sophistication. You gave him sophistication. I don't even need to do that. What I'm saying is that cool. You know what it is. He helped your street cred. No, I don't have no street cred. He can go outside and get in New York? 8:42 No, no, no, no, no. You put Flip on. But at the end of the day, I'm gonna put you on some more shit then. All right, we gonna even it out. Hey, and I'm not offended by 8:50 it. We gonna even it out. And if anybody else in here, listen, my plan is always to use this room as a wealth of knowledge. And 8:59 you gotta always remain teachable. And no matter how much you know or think you know Always 9:07 be able to be the student. That's a fact Biggest room in the world is the room for growth Hey, that's the biggest room. I've been I 9:15 can't speak for you guys. I know. I know. That's crazy. He's having a blast right now. That's bullshit. 9:24 Oh man. All right. So off a flip. Can I ask a random question? Oh, you got something. I always got something, but I love your random questions. 9:32 My random questions, well it's this internet thing that's been going around, this dude was like, resurfaced, this dude was like celebrating his lawyer for getting him out of no jail time. 9:40 And he was like, I was looking at 30 days, but my lawyer got it taken off. I got 9 years probation. You 9:48 lying, you lying. On my mom. I saw 1 with a girl doing the same shit. But the question is for y'all, some real shit. 30 9:56 days. At this stage in life, know who y'all is right now. 30 days in jail 10:05 or 9 years probation? Which 1 you take? It sound easy till you think about it. No, it's real. 30. 10:15 With a jail life. See, you should take the 9 years. Nah. Nah, you crazy. Where's the jail? That matters. It does matter. 10:23 Shit matter, bro. I told you I was in the spot. This nigga pulled a crocodile, that nigga had a knife. See how you snuck that? Boy, you'll booth 10:31 that ass. That nigga's life was this long. He said, I'ma show you. Yo, he gave it to a nigga when we was leaving. Like, yo, take care of yourself. I'm not joking, bro. The 10:39 shit was this long you took 9 years you good at describing You always do 10:48 the right things at the right time. That's that house building. You're good with the measurements, boys. You always see some shit. You always can measure shit. 10:56 2 and a half inches. Sure enough, you be knowing the size of shit. Stupid, yeah. You do the 30 days, right? Yeah, 9 11:04 times out of 10. Yeah. Oh, no, you know what? I think I'm the know-it-all ass. I'll take the 9. And then I'm going to just work on getting the 11:12 9 reduced all the time. As I look at y'all, because I would tell Parks, take the 9. I don't want to take the 9 I would tell you 11:20 to take I would tell you to take the 9 flip I would absolutely tell you to do the 30 taking the 9 would give me more than 30 days in jail because 11:30 that's 9 years that you're asking me to have to report to somebody and you're in to somebody and ask permission. I'm gonna break that every 11:38 step of the way. Exactly. Yeah, you don't like rules. I'm gonna break it every step of the way. I figured your money would get you around it. See, I'm always thinking like, who's the most likely. Yeah, that's my thing. I think 11:47 I know it all. So I be like, man, fuck them. I ain't doing no 9 years. I'm gonna get around, you know what I'm saying? And I think I would do something to manipulate the system so they could drop 11:55 the 9 years. 30 days, no probation. If my PO is light, you know what I mean? And it's like just a random check in or like back in the day I used to have to do like a phone joint. I'd 12:03 do that, you know what I mean? I ain't trying to do nothing about that. I hated 5 years probation. That's a long time. I don't know how I did probation when I did it. 12:11 I had 1 year 1 time. You ain't had no other options. When I did that shit, I was going in there, he said, yo listen, if you don't bring me no bunny you going to jail. Next 12:19 3 or 4 times I came I bought him some spanky. He said, yo don't come for like a month, month and 2. Once they P test you a couple times and I ain't, you know I don't fuck around. 12:28 He P test me and my shit was Probably like a newborn and he don't come for a couple months just when you come bring some money So that 12:36 how much you brought him? Yeah, I go like ish piss do be clean I 12:50 went to issue on the drug test tip. Mmm. Yes We need to know less about our friends. Yeah, a little way less. You know how many times I went to Isch on a drug test tip? Yes, snitches him over here. How about this? Snitches him. You better 12:58 have that 1 friend that You can guarantee. They piss his clink. They piss his clink. 13:06 But then they try to change the game up, try to start sending niggas in the bathroom with you to watch. It's like your dog, I had to take a stand. You gotta get the fake dick. 13:15 That's why I'm trying to see. That keep your shit warm. You gotta get the fake dick. The other problem with probation, well my other problem with probation was 13:24 anytime I went is when I seen every nigga that I didn't want to see. I hated that. 13:33 Every nigga I've been doing my best to not run into the last 8 9 years right now Where 13:49 you been? Nigga. Away from me. Nigga. I hate it. I hate it. You taking a probation, right? You doing 30? He telling. 13:59 He telling. You a rattle? You a rattle in this? I do want you to tell him all right? You rattle on the niggas for 30 days. All right, you wouldn't tell him anything. Wait, wait, wait, wait, what? 14:08 I can tell you about it now. Let 14:16 him get a laugh. You would not ride on a nigga not to do 30 days, bro. Did I do it? Freeze. Nigga, 14:25 you can't rap for both. Did I do it? Yes or no? Nah. Let's say no. Fam, you better tell him. You ran on family members too, Freeze? Did 14:34 I do it? I'm asking, did you tell her your brother? Well, you didn't do it. I didn't do it. Then I'm not going in there, then. You'll tell her your brother? I'm, interpret that however 14:42 you see fit. I'm not going in there if I didn't do it. So if a nigga was gonna do 5 years, you wouldn't eat the 30 days? Nigga, no! I'm not 14:50 going in here for you. If you did some shit, can handle your business. No, it's not wow, it's honest. And I wish a lot of the more people would be honest. 14:58 We wouldn't have had these conversations. Yeah. It wouldn't be so much disappointment. Yeah, a lot of your favorites out there would do the same shit and have done the same 15:06 shit. Oh, man. Oh, shit. I'm telling you straight up, everybody that know me know I'm not playing them games for y'all. Yo, dog, you think a nigga up here wouldn't do 30 15:14 days for they being that not do 5 years. I'm not talking about up here, I'm just saying in general. 5 years. I'm just saying in general. I would do 30 days for y'all. Yeah, word. I'm not doing 30 15:23 minutes for y'all. That's crazy. Fam, call me what you want. Would you do 30 days to avoid your sweetheart 15:31 getting a year? You thinking? Yeah, I'm thinking. He like, she did video tape me falling. She did laugh. 15:40 He said, she laughed her heart. She did look at that video. That's a thought for you? Yes, nigga, it's a thought. Let him think. A lot can happen in 30 days. Let the man think. It's a 15:48 thought. You absolutely right. You could tell when niggas girl ain't subbing no more to the Patreon. No, she subbed. She watched everything. Hi, 15:56 baby. It would be a thought. I would have to really think that through. It ain't no quick yes or quick no. I understand. I would have to really think that 1 out. Lock 16:05 her up. So how does that play out? Like they come to the crib and carry our handcuffs and you like I'll see you. 16:13 I'm gonna hold it down. I'm gonna hold you down. If you did some shit, bro, if you did, do your dirt on your own and keep 16:21 me out of your dirt. All right, so 1 more question. I'm sorry, bro. Would you take like, just, would you take community service with the criminal conviction? You ain't gotta go 16:29 to jail, but you get the record and you get community service. I don't like the record part. I'll do the community service. They can go away. Man, ask me to be a volunteer. I can 16:37 get this shit away after a while, or something? No, it ain't getting expunged. You get the criminal record, but community service, and she ain't got to go to jail. Breathe, 16:45 watch. Who did it? Oh, my God. This is important to me, I'm sorry y'all. This nigga won't clean up the street so his girl don't 16:53 go to jail. I got a record now. Eww, so what? Nah, he'll lose his CDL. Oh man. Yo! Yo! Yo! 17:02 Yo! Yo, what? He said you'll get CDL again. You don't know that. Yo, dumb dudes with the 17:10 CDLs. They treat that shit like- They be like, no, I can't get a ticket. I'll lose my CDL. They treat that shit like it's 5, 000 keys. I love this 17:18 CDL. My nigga, that shit is a gold card. Anybody that got a CDL, even if I'm, I done been pulled over. Ice, that's not your life no more, man. No, no, no. 17:26 What I'm telling you is that shit will get you out. Okay. Just throw it to the side. They see that CDL and be like, yo, you still drive? Yes, all right, have a good day. They'll 17:35 know they see that you a superstar podcaster when they walking up, when you roll the window down, slow on a luxury vehicle. What the fuck you talking about, man? Cops treat you 17:43 different. They see you superstar Potter ice from the. Niggas like, oh, 0 shit, Yo park right there. I said, yeah. Thank you Well South Orange police 17:51 didn't do that last month for me They was like, oh, I love your work on the pod go to this website right here You could pay this ticket and you'd be a corner. You're lying. They knew you 17:59 was on the pod He told me he liked me on the pot and he was blinded the black face and everything I 18:19 think I think it was driving karma because earlier dad chases not chased. I had pursued this other car Who? You 18:31 chased them I was going down something I was going down the road. Yeah, well you going down. I ain't gonna say where, but yeah, no, the boy was, I didn't do that crazy, actually, I don't even think I was 18:39 wrong. How many likes? He was like, merged from the left, dickhead, some shit crazy, he just kept screaming, like, and I was like, okay. It was just a little too much 18:47 I was talking to my daughter so I followed him. I got 2 questions. Boy. For like 30 minutes. White or black? He was brown. Second question you went 18:55 down which end? That's the first question. I went to the wrong the place you don't want to be. I was so mad, my daughter was on the phone, my oldest 19:04 daughter was like, yo, you're a crazy person, you need to stop following this dude. But you know what it is, I just don't like people who... You keep Mojtai. Who talk, and 19:12 ain't about no Mojtai. It's just, ha-ta, ha-ta, ha-ta. Here's Mojtai. We wouldn't be your friends if we didn't tell you. 19:20 You ain't gonna be able to put them in no lock. That shit ain't gonna work. They got a G-lock. You should stop doing that. It was a terrible idea. Especially with kids in 19:28 the car. I didn't have no kid in the car this time. He said he was talking on the phone. Yeah, I was on the phone too. My daughter, he was grown. Okay, but especially if you wanna go home. She was like, you shouldn't do this, this is a terrible idea. If you wanna go home to kids. Yeah, you're 19:36 100% right. It was just, he was talking so crazy and then I caught my, well I didn't catch myself. Your ego. He went and got out the car and then he, Well you tried to get him out 19:44 the, wait, how? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, oh, I made a crazy U-turn, it was wild. It was, so that was when I got the ticket, like an hour later, I was like, that's my karma. You 19:52 got Edgar issues, though. Hey, bro. You just noticing? This nigga said, yo, you ain't gonna put him in a lot They gonna hit you with the G lock Or 20:01 the 45 Down these little niggas down down with you And you ain't have no time to say, yo, issues my cunt. You ain't had none of that shit. That shit wouldn't have helped. I'm scared to tell people I know you. I 20:11 don't even think niggas really got road rage if ain't nobody ever pull out from another car's driver's seat and aiming at you while you're driving. Oh, 20:19 solid point. You ain't even really got road rage. You ain't never really cursed somebody out on that road and had them. Attention. Please. 20:28 Please. Please. Please. Like you supposed to say, okay. Oh no, I boogie don't wanna do it. Somebody back out until you pull over. Oh yeah, 20:36 coming right down to Commuter Port. See that's enough. Coming right down to Commuter Port. That's another place. I was driving, I must've did some shit. Cut 20:44 some miles. Flipping the birds too. That little blue Chevy, that little midnight blue, you can tell by the nigga car color 20:52 what's going on. Little bum ass midnight blue Chevy 2 door, a nigga going to do crime anyway. Came 21:01 to me this time. Oh shit, the crowd fell right out. What kind of Chevy, yo? He pulled up, I don't know, but 1 of that shit looked like some Chevy 21:10 version of the Knight Rider. No it was a 2 door. That nigga pulled out. Camaro. That's the ball that shit. I'm like Nah. 21:21 But then he was trying to follow me for a little bit. So I called somebody. Then I bust the left. I was in a trunk. Oh, it was a long time ago. I think I was in my 21:29 Hummer. Oh, that was a long, oh yeah. I was going to tie you right on. I was on top of the world. N***a focus might have been on in the car. He 21:38 was focused. Yeah, he was far. I made a left at the boogie on board You got away from in the Hummer. Yeah He clearly 21:46 had a more important crime to get to. Got it, got it. He didn't stay on me very long. Okay, okay. He was off me before we hit that little motel 21:54 that we used to be at. No. He gonna snitch twice when you get there. Out this guy. No reason. This 22:02 guy's smacking you. Headed to a Bayonne before that little bridge. You know the 1 on the right, it's still there. That 1, it's still there, y'all know. Oh, you go around. Y'all know, 22:11 come on, you know the 1. Everybody's been over there. I 22:25 thought your jail probation question was such a great segue. Because if I did the 30 days in jail, I 22:34 would come out a part of every gang I introduced myself to. I would be repping so many sets, which leads 22:42 me to our good buddy, Freeze. Come on, man, I'm a segue king. Stop playing, come on, stop playing with me, man. Our good buddy, Freeze, 22:50 has had a difficult time podcasting as of late. I'm not sure if any of you have been able to notice. But 23:01 Freeze is affiliated slash works for slash represents slash 23:10 receives free merch from And tickets. And tickets to at least 15 different entities in 23:18 the music business, which has hindered his ability to pod openly, honestly, and with the level of transparency 23:28 that has been the standard for so many years. Tell them how it started. Tell them where this comes from. Well this started, 23:37 you want my real, You want my real, Oh no, this is about 8, 9 months ago. You want me to give my real honest version or like some play play shit? 23:45 I don't do what you want bro. You can do it. I have thoughts. Well, a few weeks ago, Ice broke a story, 23:53 but in a slick way. But Ice ain't been slick his whole life. Except for the ice. It was the ice. Oh, shit. 24:01 It's the unslickest ice that you ever laid your foot across. So 24:11 he did, he dropped a little unslick nigga nugget, like, yo, Have you seen Pooch Iced Tea 24:19 and Gucci haven't taken any pictures lately? The whole room was like shut up dork, shut up dweeb, we 24:27 don't want to hear that shit. Sure enough, as soon as I get home, news breaks, all of these types of Gucci push ice D rumors 24:35 that got the internet going crazy That would have had this pod going crazy had that story somehow been broken here But it wasn't what because 24:43 ice partly because ice has celebrity affiliations It's like the other story that you almost broke. There's 24:53 another story that he almost broke. Shh, do you wanna, did he do that? Yeah, do you wanna break it or do you wanna? 25:01 I has nothing to break, go ahead, finish your story. Ooh, the ice is intact. No cheeks in the ice. Oh, 25:11 you can't break this ice. Sorry, so you don't want to break the other story. Anyway, he texted me the other day and said, yo, 25:22 you believe this shit going around about push ice D and Gucci? And then I said, ice, I believed it when 25:30 you told me the other day, secretly And partly because Ice works for or reps 25:38 Mad Label. So let's go through all of them so you guys aren't confused when the topics come up as to why Ice is partying a particular way. Death 25:48 row. Death row for certain. We know this because he played that fucking horrible snoop and sexy red 25:56 record as a sleeper. Part of the reason we don't have sleepers Anymore is because of what with the manipulation that was going on 26:04 with death row and what they did to our sleeper segment But so there's death row he get a check from them niggas. That's a fact of Fendi You 26:13 had the pool shy Steve news. So that means you had the pool you definitely see him G and have been for a long time right along with 26:22 10 7 10 14 17 17 1 of whatever 1 38 1738 you 26:32 Fetty walk you down with him You 26:41 were me boy What's max No, that's max that's French and max 26:53 Yeah, but that's 2 clicks. That's true. So what are we at? 8? Coke, Remy, Sounds Like a Party. Don Tripp's crew. Yeah, for sure. You definitely work for Don Tripp's crew. 27:01 You upload all their albums. Right? That's a fact. You know, they drop an album every other week. They make that a lot of albums, for real. We had 27:09 9, like, how many more do we need to name do you have anything to say? Oh, yeah, the clips. Oh my We had Eclipse, oh my, he's a clip. 27:18 He's a clip. He's a clip. He's a clip. He's a fucking clip. He's a clip. He fucking beat 27:26 us. He made me want to get a live studio audience. This thing is killing me. Yo. You're 27:34 a clip. Wale's crew. You're Nigeria. Oh, that's for sure. But I mean, at least he's keeping all the secrets. I mean, you know. He's a confidant. 27:42 Yeah, yeah. He's a confidant. I think we're forgetting a few. Let's do it. It's a few. You choose what you want to snitch on now. What's that? Slaughterhouse? 27:51 Y'all niggas name used to be Free Blue Da Vinci. Oh yeah. Mazzy's crew. Drama. Po, 27:59 you too? Mazzy, oh yeah, drama. That's true, drama. We forgetting 1 of some of these killer drill niggas that I'm not 28:07 really remembering. Oh, game you work for. Game called you wanting to fight me. Game does want to see you with the hand. Sometimes you gotta 28:15 fight your opponent. You're not recent? Yeah, game wanna fight. Yeah, game don't. It's not recent. No, it's not recent. No. When did you do the game? I don't know. Hey, hey, 28:24 hey, and I didn't squash it. I'm not saying about you. You're not squashing shit, but you're a piece of shit. Hey, just so you all know, when game called 28:32 perturbed, I didn't piece it up. I was just lending a listening ear and shoulder. Like, what, for real? 28:40 He said, that? Ice did what? I'm joking, by the way. I'm joking. And Game, I'm joking. I'm totally joking. But we done named about 28:48 9, 10, 11. It's a lot of rap crews, man. Like say something for yourself. How'd you get so compromised? It was like 1 at a 28:56 time or did you set out like I'm gonna just be like that guy for everybody? I'm not compromised. They threatened Joe and that nigga said we all need to sign We 29:07 never got that post album while a rollout either I know oh You future hive you are too. 29:16 We not talking about it. Oh, OK. OK, I'm just talking about me. You right where we sit today. Whenever y'all want to start talking about me, I'm down. Chris Brown. Oh, Chris Brandt. All 29:24 right. Any OVO? He ain't OVO. I know. Crazy. I think you OVO. I'm not. Yeah, you definitely. Yeah, he is. I'm not. I've heard reliably that you might know 29:32 you have We 29:44 caught Drake dead wrong son, he's still found a way They're not like that, you know, mr. Pro black way 29:54 1000 times more Drake shit than me. They not like us. It was cool. It's not a hit. Yeah, it's not a hit. I can't see us going anywhere. You 30:03 know what that nigga said? You said that. He said it was cool. It's all right. It's just my man, When he on fire, he on fire. He 30:11 was on fire. He had the internet going. Not like a bar song. Like a song. Not 30:19 very catchy. Everybody got up dancing. It was like... I remember that day, dawg. I was watching that shit on TV. I was just sitting 30:27 there like this. I watched the whole thing. That was a classic moment. It was. They were like, yo, he was You looked like a Grinch. You did. You looked saucy. 30:35 I was sitting there with the straight face like yo these things is acting like children. It's cool. Yes OVO you a lady Londoner. 30:44 Yeah. Yeah Huh, yes 30:53 you do listen to a whole Meg album while you was driving. I was trying I was coming back Meg you were stallion I 31:03 like Megan honey, baby Yeah, he's a stallion. Yeah, he's a stallion. Honey baby. I like Megan, honey baby. Hey, who else? This shit is... I'm talking about Megan. What the fuck is he talking about? Yeah, I ain't gonna... I'm not smashing the office from 31:11 this nigga, man. You a brisky? Who? Take me through there, take me through there. Oh yeah, yeah. That's who sings that song? 31:20 Yeah, it was Breeski or something like that. Yeah, I'm they high. Freeze, you don't have nothing to say for yourself? I was entertained by y'all. That's 31:28 a lot of people. You forget something. That's why he's entertained. That part too. We forget in a bunch of them. I 31:36 don't even want to remember because now I'm remembering why I don't fuck with niggas like Freeze. I hate niggas that's all. Marathon. Oh 31:45 shit. You part of heavenly cruise to make it That's fair Rest in peace. Yeah, both y'all of course rest in peace new 31:55 The marathon snorkel 2 degrees outside. Well, they all think we own by rock nation. Shady. Yeah. Crazy. 32:04 Y'all are rock nation. That's the after man part, right? That after man. All right, let's see what's going on. Shady, okay, what up? No, they all don't know more. 32:12 Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Get talking. Come on, Paul. You ready to do some shit? You got Shady? Yeah. You 32:21 got the storm? Shady. You got the storm? Oh, you're an umbrella for sure. I don't know what that is. That's Torrey Lanes. Yeah. 32:30 Okay. That's the name is hot. Yeah. Okay. A minute Joe. I ain't gonna lie the other day, too. I 32:38 was like, I got a fire unreleased Tory record in my computer from 30 years ago. I need to find him. Tory 32:47 came through and just- Are you talking about the- I got that for you. Yeah, that record was all right that I never did. I just was Tory stand out. And you fought someone about that shit too. I remember that, you 32:55 wanted to give that shit to somebody and you were like, no. Yeah. Probably somebody with a better career than me. What 33:04 do you regret not jumping on? That you had an opportunity to jump on? Oh, don't get me started with this. What's her name? Yeah, Beats. We're talking about Beats. I'm sorry, 33:12 let's be more specific. Oh, shit. But, baby, would you come up? I mean, I 33:20 was encouraged. You lying. That is not true. I don't know what Corey's going on. No, it wasn't that. It was another record, though. It was a Petty record. It wasn't that record. Oh, Fetty 33:28 did send a record over. It was fire, too. All that money, no slow. And I played that shit. Yeah, and I did not understand what was 33:37 going on. Yeah, you're an asshole, bro. Yeah, nah, it's true. I remember Ray Kwan sent you some shit to be on. I don't know nothing about 33:45 that. And it was pre-swing. He sent something else to play. It's all fuzzy now. Do you mean? Do you mean? No, I'm telling you. You see him. Look, it's 33:53 them. It's all fuzzy now. And it was pre 34:02 swing to answer your question mark I had the I went to see Swiss 34:10 1 night on the tour we had the tour bus in the city just artists coming on listen to beats And I left there with a pack that had, 34:19 I'ma hustle on it, and the fuckin' bring em out. Oh shit. What? You said nah, I'm 34:27 good? No, I took both. Oh you did? Okay. I took both. Def Jam wasn't trying to clear that budget. Jeff Jam like, oh, you don't have the money for a 34:35 snare in 1 of these. You don't have the money for a snare. For a Swiss cheese, not Swiss beats, you crazy nigga. Wow. 34:43 That's crazy. I mean, the hook was there. It ain't too much. The hook was on both. You're right, you're right, I'm sorry. 34:52 That's too bad, you can't mess with them. You know what I'm saying? I mean I could have used them. Hey, even if the record I made would not have been those records, whatever record 35:00 it was, I could have used it. It would have worked. I could have used it. It would have helped. Yeah, that's fucked up. I was in the gym the other day and had this little hoe 35:08 playlist on and his fucking some obscure ass hoe song came on and I was like damn this shit 35:17 wasn't bad I'm gonna have to find what song it is. Well, remember? I don't even know how it go. I don't even think it was an album. 35:27 Or maybe a song with like 1 of them sampling whole voices, Let me see. Nah, that shit was in my heart. I'll check y'all talk Cuz 35:36 now I'm gonna get mad if I don't figure right now We gotta put everybody else crews out there. Y'all do all these crews on me. I got no crew I'm just 35:44 objective observer. You're so shocking Jay-z 1 of them songs that you don't really think about when you think of him, but that shit 35:52 came on and I remember being there for that. That shit had a little 7 week New York City run. Y'all used to be on that song. Who's else? 36:01 Oh, no doubt about the only niggas still. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Oh man, anyway. It was all right. I can live with passing on that though, but them other 36:09 2? Yeah. Oh, I didn't have to pass. No, he didn't pass. Oh. The label wasn't trying to catch the ball. True. I 36:17 mean, I could live without not getting on that. Like ultimately, Jack and Jay-Z is dope, but like, fuck, I'm a hustler and fucking, what's the other 1? There's another Swiss song 36:25 that somebody put out that it was my beat that bring him out. First. And Yeah, I got some real nightmare stories with Swiss. That's crazy. What about just? 36:34 No, yeah Mmm, I'm the biggest ones and I think just was doing for me when just did fire for me That was kind of me 36:43 coming to him saying yo you from Jersey. I'm from Jersey I'm Like, let's take this house shit and try to. Fire was before Pump It Up? 36:51 No, no, I'm just saying Pump It Up, I heard that and was like, all right, let's do that, he had that. And then Fire was collaborative 37:00 in thought anyway. And anything else was from a pack. No, just was real good at that. I wasn't able to get my hands on none of them packs 37:08 that was being played from the Rockefeller side of the building. I'm sure not not a wannabe. I'm sure they kept those close. Anybody from Def Jam 37:16 y'all could get this over what's left. I'm just glad my life changes because they don't pick Pump It Up. Right, right. Yeah. 37:24 And that was his story. Like I played it for him, they didn't want it, and that was that. You said bring it out and I'ma 37:32 hustle. Are those the records that you had the beat first or you had the song first? Those are the biggest songs that you get to get? That I can think of. 37:41 Yeah. Do any of y'all have an opportunity, it might not be music, it probably won't be obviously, but me either, but where you were just a hair away, 37:49 if you had just got that thing, everything would have been different. That's a good 1. I don't 37:57 know if it would have been these niggas ain't lit I don't know if it would have been skyrocketing me out of here but... Say it again. I 38:05 heard what he said. I heard him. What did you say? I've had deals that I regret. Like I've had deals where it 38:13 was just my procrastination. Nigga be like yo no money down. Here take this back then $200, 000 for family 38:22 or some stupid shit and I'll take a week to sign the contract. Yo, some real shit, you haven't lost enough to not procrastinate. Oh 38:30 man, yo, father, I don't wanna hear this bullshit man. Like you father O'Reilly or somebody, get your ass out of here man. My bad man, sorry. 38:39 But nah, shit like that has. Yeah, cause sometimes opportunities like in your case, it's not that you couldn't have done anything different. It just didn't work out that way. Def Jam 38:47 didn't approve the shit. Sometimes it's like in your case, like it's somewhere you could do something different. I think I spend more time thinking 38:55 about the ones that I like, like you're talking about. Like, for example, like, At 1 point I wrote the intro to Decoded. I was just thinking about you were talking to Jay-Z's book, 39:03 but then they didn't use it. Who did they go with instead? They went with nobody. So I couldn't get mad. I 39:11 later found out they had 1 other person write it, whose name I won't say, who's sort of like a mentor to me. And I was, and they didn't, what I understood is they didn't like that version. So then they came to 39:19 me, so I was already kind of conflicted about it, like how that would look if I ended up getting it. You knew ahead of time that they went to the mentor? Yeah, I knew that that was the person. And 39:28 then, and then I think I may have even seen what they wrote. Okay. And then I wrote mine and I thought it was pretty good. They thought it was 39:36 good, for understand, you know, it was it was well liked but then they ended up not having anybody do 1. So I was okay but I always think like damn that had been 39:44 the first like thing I wrote for the public like that. That's your introduction basically. Yeah, like that could have went in a whole lot of life would have been a different direction, you know what I mean? But I can't control 39:52 that. So I try not to think about those. I try to think about the joints, like you talking about, well damn, if I responded faster or if I had said yes to this, where I had like a choice in the matter. Cause I try not to, 40:00 cause I can do something different next time. Yeah, shit that's out your controllers out your control. Yeah, yeah. I had, back when the Breakfast Club was 40:09 created, the person that had put that all together, he came to me and was like, yo, I did this show and I want to do a late show. 40:20 I'm talking about opportunities and shit. I ain't paying them niggas no more. I ain't paying them no more. And he said, yo, I want to do me. And he listed a girl for 40:28 like, you know, that late, late, late night. What platform is this? I want to find when it was on the radio. Oh, yeah And 40:37 I told him I Love you I don't know, Freeze, that shit 40:46 is fire. I love you. Yo, niggas don't take nothing serious, man. No, I just, yo, he's so talented, yo. 40:54 That nigga, Freeze, and I really mean it, like, yo, his story is just lit, get it, Freeze, you right, that's what it all about. What year, What was this, how long ago? Whatever, what 41:02 was it, 2009, 2010, whatever. Whenever that shit was done. And I don't like- Were you driving then? Yes, Mark. You know, I'm not being funny, I'm 41:11 just trying to understand like where you were in your life. No, no, I was, oh no, truck driving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, I wasn't doing that. Okay, okay. But I didn't like the person that he wanted me to do it 41:19 with Like I don't like her And I was like I'm cool fam And I think back 41:27 if what if it would what if it would have either didn't it have worked? She could have went told you if you didn't fuck with it, right? Yeah, I don't know. Well, you and Shorty could've been the best of friends to this day. 41:35 Yeah, I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. What the fuck are you guys at? I don't know. The nigga sharing the story, man. What the fuck? Yo, 41:48 throw me a water? Get mine. Pop. Yeah. Pop. Pop. Pop. Pop. Pop. Pop. This 41:56 nigga is stupid, yo. Joe, why are you laughing at? 42:12 Anybody else? He's so stupid. Anybody else? Now I don't know who the person was. I know you can't say my name. You know full well who it was. Is it who I think it is? I'm assuming it is. Is it who I think it is? I'm assuming it is. Is it who I think it is? 42:21 It's your freeze. Okay. That nigga turned out to be... That nigga is the light. I don't give a fuck. Don't 42:30 sit next to me, though. Don't sit next to me, though. No, oh God. Seriously. Oh, you got tizzy eyes, boy. 42:39 That nigga freeze. It's cold out. He don't give a fuck, son. I think the audience would like to know what y'all are laughing at. Me? I'm laughing at him. 42:48 Cause he's stupid. And flip with you. I don't get the joke. It's not a joke. The thing is that Ice just has 42:58 so many layers to his life. When he tells a story, even his change and his transition, it's respected. I just 43:06 find it funny. Cause I liked the way he tells a story. I liked the way how he goes back and I had, he's really well connected and he really, like, I don't think the story that he's telling 43:14 is far fetched. He's really well connected and ICE is that nigga. If you know ICE history, if you go back and see ICE history and where he's at now, I just think it's ill. So 43:22 the journey, I'm laughing more as a- It's all bullshit. I'm all on it. No, no, no, I swear to God. It's true, every word. No, I swear to God. I'm laughing more as a praise. I'm 43:31 not, you know I respect you, I fuck with you. No, I didn't. I call you free. Damn, jokes don't got nothing to do with the respect part. I know you respect me. No, I respect you. I know what you thinking too. 43:39 What did you almost miss? I don't think that you're lying. That's what I'm laughing at. Mute up, nigga. I got us. No, no, no, I don't think you're lying. No, no, for 43:47 real. Hold us down. Okay, this is why it's a little funny. I might even have heard 43:55 wrong, because of how I was laughing. But did He just steal the show and say, 44:05 here man, not sure if you all ever heard of him. Not sure if you ever heard of 44:13 the Breakfast Club. But, no, he said the person that created it. That's what I said. 44:21 Before that was anything. Listen, the person whose 44:30 brain it came from called me 1 day I was chilling he said ice I'm gonna put you with 44:38 mini Martinez and I didn't know and You know every day since 44:46 then I look back And think man that might have changed something nigga 44:57 fucking right it would Hey when you have them talk with you Internet, hey change 45:07 Hey, cuz I've relied on that. Yo, I don't know what we can't go back in time. No, holy shit, 45:16 that was awesome. Oh, great. I wanted to know Flips and Parks too though, like Y'all got 1 of them? I can't, no. No, come 45:24 on. There was this roll at Ocean's Nile. You guys have heard of Saturday Night Live, 45:32 right? You heard of Vince Vaughn, right? Vince Vaughn, like, 6'5". Mark, mark, mark. Yeah. Yeah. I had this idea for a show. Wait. A 45:41 late night variety show. A late night variety show. A bunch of upcoming comics. Yeah. You heard of Vince Vaughn. He's like, 6'5". What does it mean to be a waycracker? Have 45:52 you heard of Saturday Night Live? I was trying to get up. 1 rainy night in the 70s. I was hanging 46:00 out with Bill Murray downtown. Oh, shit. A lot of shit. There's a lot of shit is too much to count 46:13 You didn't have a whole lifetime do 1 of my sit with you is it 1 of these Is the 1 that sits with you like damn if that had happened that that that So 46:22 I'm too not a whole lifetime you dragging in there No, it's a lot of shit that I thought with the board the NBC shit. I thought with the board man shit Mm-hmm. Oh, I think I know the 46:30 NBC. What was that 1? It's a little show on NBC. It's a show. Do you have a desire to be corporate or no? 46:38 Now I do, I didn't before. You got it. Now I do. I realize the importance of being corporate or just conforming and being a better 46:46 businessman. But I think that things only happen like that when my back is against the wall. I was just talking to Ian about that earlier. Like when my back is against the wall, then I start 46:54 to, it's like a panic thing. But when I have a clear runway, I don't take the opportunity. I don't know. I don't know if it's come to be, I don't know what that is. I'm just talking to Ian about 47:02 that. Is it like complacency? I don't know, I don't know what that means, but I guess. You're laughing for a point, I 47:11 don't know what that means. I don't know. Silence. For real. I just be laughing. Niggas 47:20 is going, nigga boy. A nigga will sit on these podcast mics and speak to you fluently about a 47:28 character flaw and self-deficiency almost to the point where you think they might change it. But that don't never come. 47:38 You hear this nigga, yeah, it was just a lack of. Nigga, did you fix it? Yeah, I think so. Well, you said he 47:46 was trying to be a little bit corporate now. I love that about you though. I love this shit. Did somehow you've gotten there? Cause yeah, I didn't feel like you was fucking 47:54 with any of the corporate shit like when you first got there. It felt like when I first, I don't take it the wrong way. Initially, Flip like if it was any type of structure or 48:02 corporate or rule he was anti Like just hearing it would turn you off if somebody was telling you something give you advice. I ain't fucking with it now Like I 48:10 was on a streamers. Oh shit Yeah, like right that's just Outside 48:19 of the streamers like when somebody would try to give you something like for real, you would rebel. How did you try to give advice though? If you was aggressive, I didn't listen. 48:28 Oh, I'm not saying. If anybody tried to embarrass me, I'm not listening. If you do it aggressively, I'm not listening. I don't know if I'm the best advice giver. Like, I ain't. But some of 48:36 this shit played out. I mean, some of this shit played out. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that's called. It may be complacency. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is that makes 48:45 a person like that. You can have a clear runway and clear opportunity and you wouldn't take it at the time until you feel like shit is closing in and then there's, I don't know if it's a 48:53 panic mode, I don't know what that is. It's very weird and it needs to be studied. That needs to be studied. It's 49:03 a lot of shit, man. You know what I'm saying? Everybody always make jokes. You know, when Drewski reached out to me in 2018, that's a thing that I look at. What 49:11 did he need, like a assistant? He sent me a video of what I did. No, he sent me the video. He 49:21 gotta go somewhere. He sent me the video. I did a family matters video. No Mark, you 49:29 wasn't calling looking for an assistant. Oh, I mean, he wanted to look. He wanted them Jordan 12s. Damn. 49:37 And a Dutch. Hey, why you do that, man? See? Strykski said, give me a Dutchie. It's a rap snack. 49:45 Wait, wait, wait. Get your shit off. Get your shit off. Get your shit off. Get your shit off. Get that shit off. Tag team brothers, 49:53 look. Look. Chips on hoi ice cream. Look at these little fools. Crazy niggas. What's wrong with that, man? 50:02 You gotta start somewhere. Nah. It reached out to me some content shit and I just, just being stupid. It was very dumb. And you 50:10 know, I think about that. But niggas show love anyway when you speak to them. I bet they do. Yeah, they do. They ain't no little man. They ain't no 50:18 little man. Nah, niggas show mad love, dude. Yeah. Nigga done surpassed you, they show mad, yo what's up my nigga? What's up boy? What's up? 50:26 What you do now? So what you do? What you do now? Oh you over there with Joe in them shit? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I speak. Glad to see you, it's all business. Yeah, stay up my nigga. Nigga 50:34 up there hanging up there with the red bottoms. I'm so here. While I'm over here sitting down, right, in black, in black bottoms. This shit ain't shit. Let 50:43 me tell you, his only lifeline of man deep is how it's is, so you know what I mean, you'll get him. I make money on my own, I don't need entertainment. It's 50:51 cool though. You check me, you check me. You my man, you my man, I'm on it. Is that hard sometimes to like, when you see people who like you knew 10 years ago, 15 years ago. It's not hard, no. It's not 50:59 hard, no. I salute it, no, it's not hard at all. You think about it, you think about what it could've been or different opportunities. I fucked up a 51:07 lot of opportunities in my life. The only person that really took a chance and kept me here was this nigga. They not lookin' to hear about the positivity. They in the negative, oh 51:15 no, no. They bein' dicks. Oh they are. They bein' dicks. They not lookin' to hear like you really bein' bald. He's just here, yeah. Wrong crowd, my friend. 51:24 These niggas been assholes. These niggas are assholes. That's fucked up. Why don't you answer your question? Well, he can't answer it. I did. I 51:32 said the whole thing. Like, that was the. Oh, yeah, you did. He got a kick out back then. No, no. That's probably the thing that the biggest. I mean, sometimes I have to obviously to see it and shit. Like, the what if if I 51:40 hadn't given a speech at the UN. Like, at the time, I had auditioned successfully for a 51:48 daytime talk show at ABC. There's opportunities that just evaporate and it wants to happen. So I don't regret it, but I think 51:56 about what if, what the world would look like. I don't think back about none of that shit. I feel like the story happened and is happening the way 52:04 that it's supposed to happen and all of those things led up to What this is I had a 52:12 fun time at our NBC when They was trying to shoot whatever they were shooting, looking for a host, and it was me, and J. Will, 52:21 and Kim Whitley, and all of these funny, celebrity, cool people, and they were just tossing them in a room for Kim test. That was a blast. I smoked 52:29 that shit. You couldn't tell me I wasn't about to get a fucking NBC. Everybody was leaving like, Joe, you fucking, wow, you killed that shit, give me another 52:37 man. But, none happened. Yeah. Did the show that they was working on ever come? No. No, also just nothing. No. 52:46 That's the hardest thing in this business, but I don't like think about stuff like that. I remember Cory had me going to acting classes That was funny. Are you taking acting 52:54 lessons before? I've lived a life. I've seen you in a mark so I didn't you know, I didn't know that you 53:02 know You're under delivered. No, no, not even like that. You just didn't see me So I was interested I do better on shows with better writing That would be shooting but 53:10 it sounded like a shot no You seem so uninterested in act like yours be yours run from us like you don't want to do it. So I never do acting with something you cared about. 53:19 Yeah, I don't want to do it. That's what I'm saying. So I didn't think you wanted to do acting classes. No, no, no, you're not. If he was in a movie with Denzel, you know, Tiana Taylor, then it 53:27 would be different. Gotcha. In a movie, in a shit with you and Ian. Who the fuck about you doing this? It's a motivational book. I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio 53:35 call. You know what I mean? That's something different. I'm running for other reasons, man. I'm running for other reasons. Got it, got it. It's not that. And I don't know how 53:43 interested I am in fucking acting. Actually, this would be great to talk to him, Rocky just got here about acting. I don't know how I feel about that today. 53:52 Like I respect all the work that them niggas put in, even when I went to acting class, that shit was busting my ass. Yeah, you're so aggy, yo. If 54:00 that money wasn't coming in, how it be coming in, you would be up there like, where for Arthur, who the fuck you think you talking to, yo? I 54:09 think broke. You got options there. I think that broke and with a couple dollars, I've always been willing to throw something at a wall. 54:17 Exactly. And so if you wasn't, if you were not creating the level of income that you created from this advice, you would be open to more shit. 54:26 You have the ability, you can afford yourself the ability to say no. Corey had jazz and acting classes 10 years ago. If, you know what I mean? Longer than 10 54:34 years ago, but yeah. It was about that, I remember. A little more. And I killed my little role. But anyway, enough about me. I don't want to center myself. Our 54:43 guest is here. Indeed. Our guest has arrived. None other than fucking ASAP Rocky himself. Yeah! 54:52 Let's go! Yes, sir. Yes, sir. How are you feeling? Man, I feel honored to be here right now. 55:00 You shit me? We're honored to have you. Thank you. We're honored and blessed to have you. Thank you. I'm happy you came. Pause, I'm happy that you brought gifts too. 55:09 They sent him with gifts. Yeah, he did. I got yellow Ray-Bans. I got some Hollywood Ray-Bans. I got some CDs. We 55:18 got joints. I'm a Ray-Ban guy too, so that's perfect. You couldn't wait. Yeah, hell yeah. I put these shits on, you crazy? I'm wearing my shit. Yeah, go ahead, 55:26 man. Fuck that. That's your color joke? Yeah, nah, this is it. Say that. This is it. Boy, these niggas went and tried to steal all the grab bags. 55:35 You know how your man get down. That's my style. I want to go in this time. Hey Sam, how you feeling? Congratulations, first of all. Congratulations. 55:44 Thank you, y'all. New album out. Amazing project. I saw the projection. We heard the album. I'm not sure if you heard us talking about the album, 55:52 but it exceeded, I'll speak for me, it exceeded my expectations. Thank you, thank you. I didn't know what to expect. 56:00 Or it's been a long time. Yeah, it's been a little while rolling 777 joints. Yeah, I mean like it's it's just a like 56:08 I said, man It's a privilege. It's an honor to just be doing what I love after all these years, you know, Like they say 56:16 anywhere statistically from 60, 000 to 100, 000 songs is released daily, right? And the fact that like I could get people's attention 56:25 and keep it for more than a day after 15 years of being in this game, bro, I feel truly blessed man. I'm just grateful to be here 56:33 y'all for real. That's fucked up. Do you been in the game 15 years? Don't feel like it Yeah, 56:42 2011 was the first door shows over there in the city. That was bugged out. Urban Floss and all that early, early, early shit. 56:51 Well y'all was wild. We was wild, that's how I get you right? No, that's how I get you. I was good. That's how I get you. I was good. Had a blast. But 57:00 the album, he kind of got me in a time freeze now word I looked it up this morning cuz I was like when that first shit came out. I thought it was 57:08 like 2014 or something like that 2011 I was like how different does the game feel today versus versus when you're a new artist is way different You 57:16 know, I think when you're a new artist, you don't know what to expect. I think after being in the game so long, you kind of develop some type 57:24 of preconceived notions of how things should go, what to expect, what not to expect. But this is just like a total new playing field, you know? I 57:33 just had to really like, just see what it is. And I feel like I never really went with the current wave of any kind of like, you 57:41 know, I don't know, like just current way of hip hop. But it was trendy. Yeah, you never know. And I try to like isolate myself to kind of 57:49 be like you know I practice individualism when it's part of like you know music and whatnot and I think it's just always that's what helped me stand 57:57 out the most you know I'm saying it's just like kind of like dropping on Mondays except dropping on a Friday. You know what I mean? Putting out art, 58:05 making art like the main prerogative, putting it for first and foremost, like that's at the front line. It's just all about like 58:14 creativity and I think that that's a kinda empty void in our genre. You know what I'm saying? It kind of feel like people will 58:22 get caught up in the rat racer statistics or analytics and numbers, right? And we all want a successful project, roll 58:30 out, whatever it is. Don't get me wrong, I'll be lying to you if I told you I didn't want it to be successful. But I think my main prerogative in going into this was 58:38 really just to reestablish myself. Like if somebody was in middle school right now, they off, they working at a banking firm, 58:46 you know what I mean? My last album was 8 years ago. That's a decade, G. That's crazy, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it was just like the reintroduction, like 58:55 these kids, they take your music, sound bite it, put it on TikTok and speed it up, slow it down, have fun with it. And it's just like, I'm embracing 59:03 all of that right now. I feel like a young OG, you know what I mean? Did you have any fear, given the gap? Right now? Putting it out like, this 59:11 might not be received who I want to. Nah, yo. Because that all could just, that could fuck you up. You know what I'm saying? Like if you 59:19 start thinking about that kind of shit, that could fuck you up. I already make decisions like based off of how I feel. I do fillers, I put it out 59:27 there, I see what it's like, if it's appropriate timing and not. People might call it indecisiveness, but for me, I think it's perfecting the craft and on top of 59:35 that, just seeing what the playing field is like. It's all about timing. Sometimes, if it's gangsta music, that's them right 59:43 now. Maybe just fall back for the time because I don't put out music for the consumption of just you know Financial 59:52 gain you get what I'm saying. I don't have to depend. I'm pretty blessed. Yeah, I'm privileged enough to it Everything 1:00:03 on this being honest, I'm privileged. Yeah, man. Nah, all that shit. All of this. Everything on this nigga's a flex. Yeah. Just so we be in the ring. I'm listening to him. No, no, nigga. I'm watching like, look at this nigga's skin. Look 1:00:12 at this nigga's flowing, right? This nigga. God, dude. It's different in person a little bit. Holy shit. You got pores? I know. 1:00:21 Yeah, all that shit is like, but now you was saying? No, it's just like, you know, it's a privilege. I don't want to mistake 1:00:29 it for nothing else or like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I ain't popping my shit right now. I'm just being humbly I'm saying like I've set myself in the in the 1:00:37 standard to where I get revenue from other endeavors So my concern ain't like I just got to be number 1 cuz this gonna help me get 1:00:45 to the net That's the privilege I got And I don't think it's meant for, I don't think that formula correlates or works for every 1:00:53 individual artist, but there's tons of people like me, sons of my peers, different artists that I know that that could work for. I do think that this is the 1:01:01 time and the year for tastemakers and creatives, you know That's interest. That's an interesting point you raised. I'm thinking about it as you speak 1:01:09 right because I could see Desperation being a hindrance to creativity for some artists. For 1:01:18 sure. And then for some artists, I could see the opposite. I was about to say that. It's interesting. And you could just literally sit 1:01:26 in your own shit, your own creativity, and put out the best project possible because you don't need to hurry up and get an album over to the label. You dropped this 1:01:35 yourself, right? Pardon? You dropped this yourself, right? Yeah, no, I'm with RCA Records. Oh, you're looking on that. But it's all good. It came up just you. Yeah, I 1:01:43 know. I got you. I see you. I'm sure they're going to fix that. I was like, oh shit, hold on 1:01:51 now. As they say, ASAP Rocky Records, but ASAP Rocky is about to go. Okay. Yeah, nah, they gonna fix that. All right, all right. All right. 1:01:59 Give it a week. Got you, got you, got you. But speak a little more to me about your tastemaker influencer 1:02:08 point. We were talking a little bit off air, and I was like, damn, it has to be a scary time to 1:02:17 be an artist. And you said, not for everybody. Yeah, Yeah. And when you said your taste maker point, 1:02:26 like I started to think of some of the people that have seen success recently. Fuck me up. And the clips are treating it like 1:02:34 Chance Tastemakers, boutique Yeah, art Art, real art, real art Freddie Gibbs Yeah Freddie Gibbs, Alchemist Alchemist, 1:02:42 anything Alchemist Yeah Tyler the Creator Tyler Griselda Griselda Yep, yep Shout out to Gunn too, he on the album with the gorillas 1:02:51 Yeah Yeah, no, shout out to Gunn, shout out to Gunn for sure The album is good, man It's good music, it's different It's funky, you did it Yeah, you came off at the beginning 1:02:59 the punk rocky I think was the first thing I heard off it so that was left you know I'm saying it's damn near a rock song I had to throw them off yeah if 1:03:07 you look at my discography that ain't new to me true like I got songs like from LSD that's mod psych psychedelic rock 1:03:16 and sundress and excuse me, these are all like Indie kind of like, you know facts its songs 1:03:24 a little bit and you came out in the era of indie rock in New York Being a major thing for sure. That was probably a big influence That's when like Vice magazine was at 1:03:32 the top of this shit like you know and it was a lot of indie rock bands that was just crazy like I mean that they might be considered mainstream today but when I came out 1:03:41 it was like foster the people pumped up kicks. It was like vampire weekend. It was like so many just different even borns all these different people 1:03:49 that are like considered mainstream pop now they came out as indie artists Williamsburg with us yo 1:03:59 do y'all not miss hipster culture I do a little bit At the time I was tired of it a little bit because I was over there a lot hanging out partying but now it's like 1:04:07 damn that was a good era. The indie rock era in New York was a great era. Can I make a comparison? Y'all like, Joe, remember we spoke speaking about off camera 1:04:15 how like things come back around. Nothing is new under the sun, right? It cycles, right? Like I think we just getting out the 1:04:23 era of gangsta rap, drill rap, like not the genre of drill, but like drill rap and shit like that, gangsta rap. You know, all of 1:04:31 the, you know, things and the controversy going on in hip hop with the You know the the the penile system and you know 1:04:39 the correction system all of that stuff It took a big play into it right for sure some of the most elite artists that was doing that that the you know forefront 1:04:48 of that is either locked up or going through their adversity right now as far as, or, you know, resting in peace right now, you know what 1:04:56 I'm saying? And it kind of reflects, or I think it's parallel to how the cycle was in the 1:05:04 late 80s and early 90s when you had NWA and they fucked the game up so crazy. That was just like, right after that, we was just 1:05:12 pumping, pushing, peace. You know what I mean? And that's what they considered a golden age, the golden era of hip hop. We was talking about Q-Tip and 1:05:21 leaders of the new school, De La Soul, all of these people were at the forefront. I mean, before them, prior to them, Boogie Down 1:05:29 Production, KRS-One, all of them, they was pushing that. You know what I mean? Self-knowledge and all of that knowledge of self and all that. 5% of rap 1:05:37 really derived from late 80s, early 90s, kinda, you know, and they call it boom back pack, but that's really 5% of rap, knowledge of self. You know what 1:05:45 I mean? And I think like that's opinionated, you know, it's subjective, it's subjective. But I think right after that, that's when we had the ballers 1:05:53 come in, you know? And Puff, you feel me? Jay, you know what I mean? And that's when it was just like, oh, cash money. You know what I'm saying? 1:06:02 It's time to get this money back. And after that, it feel like it got into like, I don't know, it feel like it got into 1:06:10 like, alright, now we gonna go pop with it. We gonna go big with it. That's when you got Ja Rule, you 1:06:18 know, JLo and Ja Rule doing records. Nelly, yeah. You know what I mean? 50 even, even though he was street, it was still accessible. I'm talking about right before 5th. Right 1:06:26 before 5th. You feel me? That's when We took it to mainstream from there. You know what I mean? Before that, like, y'all got to think about it. Before 1:06:35 Jay-Z and these guys, hip-hop wasn't, you get what I mean? Like, you, you, and when you drop Pump It Up, that was a commercial record. 1:06:44 That was a mainstream commercial record. You get what I'm saying? Like that era, the early 2000s, Kamron, Oh Boy and all that, that's when we just started 1:06:52 seeing hip hop on a commercial like you know platform. Before that, it was looked at as a subgenre or it was just looked at 1:07:00 as a niche genre. And so my point that I'm was essentially making was, when you think about when I first came out, it was 1:07:08 all about hipster music, grunge stuff, grunge rap, and all this other stuff. They call it cloud rap, emo rap. Sound cloud rap, yeah. Sound cloud rap, all of that, right? We 1:07:17 used to be able to like I think we're seeing the aftermath of balling against the shoot-em-up shit I think we see in the aftermath 1:07:26 of that because now the clubbing what it used to be yeah everybody like brah I'm off that club shit man I'm sitting around 1:07:34 that I'd rather take it to the hipster days, go get a brew. Sit down, smoke, we sharing a dub sack, or 1:07:43 some sour or some haze or whatever. We listening to music, we listening to house, we driving. And that's what I think that this was this 1:07:51 whole, my prerogative with this and my mission and goal was to make it for people who actually consume music. You know what I 1:07:59 mean? I don't want anybody to like this album. I want them to hate it. I want them to love it. I want to evoke emotion. I 1:08:07 don't want you to feel like, ah, this is, and you know what, I don't know. Fuck that. I need you to- Feel some way. Yeah, I need that. That's what this is for. That's 1:08:15 the conversation, you know what I mean? And I love the way it's going. And it's just a privilege, like I said, to be able to 1:08:24 express myself artistically in this kind of climate. Because if we look at it, 4 months ago, they was just trying to convince us 1:08:32 that hip-hop is not even enrolled in a Billboard 200. Number 1. We down, but this ain't happening in 35 years. 1:08:41 Right? And so it's just like nah man, but our culture is still number 1 influential. We still the most lucrative culture, no matter 1:08:50 what. No matter what. I'm not even close. It's not far. Everything derived from this culture. I think you're right, we're in a recalibration era right now, which will 1:08:58 probably go pretty quickly because things move much quicker than they have in the past. So I think you're absolutely right. And hopefully that means better art, more focused art, more intentional 1:09:06 art, especially in the world of AI where people are just, you know what I mean? Hitting props and shit, like some, that's what I do appreciate about your album is that 1:09:14 it's very clearly human. You feel me? Like, it don't feel like it's someone just sat down with some presets and did some shit. For 1:09:22 sure. It's real. Thank you, man. So where do you feel like it's going next though? Like where do you feel like what's, cause you say it's a cycle, right? So. So 1:09:31 from the drill to the influencers, from the influencers. He got a, when he was saying it off camera, I was like, oh 1:09:39 shit. And with all the shit that's happening in the world, we start, we might start seeing some self destruction, some type political messages. Yeah, 1:09:47 political consciousness. Got it, bank consciousness. You might see that again, with all the shit that's going on, with ICE and all that other shit, I wouldn't be surprised. Yo, that's 1:09:55 crazy. I mean, if you look at my fashion shows, if you look at some 1:10:03 of the caricatures and the videos and stuff like that, we have refugees and I've made that as a caricature just 1:10:11 to kind of hint at certain stuff because the last thing I want to do is start preaching to these young niggas and shit like that shit for me that 1:10:19 was always a turn off so I try to like articulate it in the most creative way and package it so that if you get the message if it gets 1:10:27 you you know that's kosher and if not You know it is what it is to you know that's fly that that's fly though that you're even aware 1:10:36 of that today like To find an ASAP rocky way to just drop 1:10:44 this here, and if you get it you get it if you if you don't you don't like Yeah, I can see that not being so important 1:10:52 to a younger version of you. For sure. That's what I'm getting as I listen to you. Like, you sound like there's been a 1:11:01 real, real, no, outside of this, the money. Outside of this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, outside of that. Hey yo dawg, 1:11:10 outside of that. Look where you going, look where you going, nigga. You know where I'm going. Look where you going. No, I'm, fuck the money. Stop it, bro. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I was joking, 1:11:18 but fuck the money. The access that the money provides you opens up your mind to new ways of thought. This nigga, when it come to money. He's 1:11:26 fighting the West. No, I'm not. Dog, dead ass. When you start being in certain rooms, when you start seeing other parts of life traveling all over the 1:11:34 world, other shit broadens your horizons to think about new shit. I don't disagree with that at all. And I think a lot of it has to do with just 1:11:46 my trial and error, my adversity, bro. I wasn't always on this side of it, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying, you're from Harlem, right? Yeah, I wasn't 1:11:54 always on this side of it. Like I used to just ignore like political current affairs and shit like that until 1:12:02 I matured enough to develop an understanding for it. The worst thing you could do is sit up here, which I probably get a lot of people regurgitating some 1:12:10 shit that they heard, just sounding stupid. I think that always been my MO, like, yo, listen, my pedigree 1:12:19 is I can't fake the funk I gotta let I gotta be who I am and sometimes when you know financial literacy like he said and 1:12:27 just like current affairs and political views and all of that that's something that you develop with age, at least for me it was, you know what I 1:12:36 mean? Because I don't want to hear that shit all day on like, and some music, you know, unless it's stylized in a way where it's still cool and slick and it's 1:12:44 a few brothers who do that shit, don't get it twisted, like, that cold, them niggas do that shit, like to a T, you know what I'm saying? And like, that's when it's fired 1:12:52 at me. But like, for the most part, we don't really want to, you know, hear preachy shit. So it took me living and learning, making mistakes, saying shit, 1:13:00 you know, pause, putting my foot in my mouth, saying dumb shit, doing dumb shit, just to learn. And I think that learning and growing from it is 1:13:08 the most beautiful thing that could be the outcome of those kind of situations. You know what I'm saying? Being able to walk away from some of that shit. For sure. How, how, oh I'm sorry. 1:13:16 It's not, dude. Huh? No, get your shit on. How scared were you when all that legal shit was going on? Which time? I came in, we had you dead to 1:13:24 rights. No, nigga, I was gonna bring up the first time. Sweden. When you locked up in another country, you start seeing how big politics plays a part in our day-to-day 1:13:34 life. Nigga, Britney Renner was locked up in Russia for some weed. For weed. He was locked up, you get what I'm saying? And his shit was on camera. And they 1:13:42 still locked his ass up. Like, yo bro, you start realizing politics plays a huge part in our life. It ain't something to be ignored. I swear you right. I swear you right, 1:13:50 bro. That kind of was like 1 of the illest wake up calls for me, bro. At that point, I was just like, I gotta know this shit. I gotta know what's going 1:13:58 on. Just knowing No matter where you go on God's green earth, when you black, you still black, bro. You know, and I didn't let that make me jaded 1:14:06 and I feel like, oh, you're a very body racist and this, this, this and that. Nah, man, like I'm still comfortable in my body, but I know now I know like, 1:14:14 yo, bro, it don't matter that you famous and you think because you you know successful now you still black bro, and that's why I just You know I want to put 1:14:23 on humbly for you know people like me and you know I think that there's been a there's been a fight There's people on both sides of the fight 1:14:31 right Like it's people who I think initiate some type of like political stance to divide 1:14:39 us. And I think there's people who make sure that we try to stay together and we all move in unison. And I don't like the thought of us 1:14:47 and them when we talk about like just the human race and shit like that But politically that's just how it's designed bro You know what I mean? And like you got to know 1:14:55 are you them or you us or who like who are you? You know what I mean? That should get real. It was a wake-up call. They like my black ass up 23 hours 1:15:03 a day I only got to go upstairs for 30 minutes locked in a cell You know I'm saying if you want to take a shower They leave you in the shower like you know for like an hour 1:15:12 in the dark You know I'm saying wet soaking cold like You can just hear the keys walking by as they laughing and shit. You talking another language, you know, 1:15:20 and this nigga Trump made it worse too. I appreciate it. But every time he said something, they held me in their like, every 1:15:28 time he said so. Arrogant American. Kanye like, look, I'm coming with Kim, Trump. Do not, do 1:15:37 not do that, brother. Please don't do that right now. Don't do that. As much as I appreciate it, don't come gang because I ain't gonna lie, they gonna keep me 1:15:45 in here for eons, B. Oh shit, I was done by the second time. Yeah, no, the first time. I wasn't even talking about that part. Yeah, 1:15:53 man, like, I mean, I ain't no stranger to the, you know, penal system and, you know what I mean, corrections and all that, like, 1:16:01 I mean, I'm not proud of it, but, you know, I went from Rikers, I went, I've been locked up in Sweden I've been locked up you know LA 1:16:09 all of that like that that all those situations every time I'm in those situations I'll just be like how did I get here again? You 1:16:17 know I told God I wasn't gonna let this happen and I asked God to not let this happen and you know, I Just 1:16:26 I always vowed like I would just leave all of that shit in my rear view when I get out You know what I mean And not let it change my personality or the dynamics 1:16:34 of the way I think. Oh, fuck up my psyche, man. Like I just, it made me a better person, you know? I think it did, you know? Because 1:16:43 sometimes we all need some humble pie. And not only that, I think with my latest joint, like God was really just showing 1:16:51 me a lesson, bro. Like, and the lesson was like, I had to get over this survivor's remorse, survivor's guilt shit. Like, you can't bring everybody 1:16:59 with you, bro. I was just about to ask that. I was just about to ask that. I was just about to ask at what point in your career, because I remember back in the days, like 1:17:07 it was a whole movement revolving around you. And then at some point in your career, you didn't 1:17:15 see that many people. So at what point in your career did you start having to shed the fat? I don't wanna disrespect anybody, but having to just get 1:17:23 away and just focus on yourself. Like what part of your career, what caused that? At what moment caused that where you had the realization like, 1:17:32 man, I can't really bring everybody with me or this may not work. Was it a certain meeting that you had? Was it a certain, like, you know, you know, this shit happen when you 1:17:40 bring a bunch of niggas over there? It was when I got a real woman in my life and then I became a father. That's when I was just like, cause 1:17:49 a real down ass 1 gonna tell you like, that's really not your, watch out, like watch out for that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you 1:17:57 know, and it's, you got 2 type of men. You got dudes be like, what? What you talking about? These are the homies, da da da da da. Then you got the 1:18:06 type that'll just take heed to it, let it marinate and just wait to see what she was talking about, see if she was right. And 1:18:15 my lady was right. They'd be right. They'd be right. They'd be right. They'd be right. They see shit that we don't that we don't see the word. Absolutely. They'd be right, right? 1:18:23 Like no funny shit. I think that was the moment that caused this whole thing with my latest my last, you know situation with 1:18:31 a side really it was like Them he felt the way because I wasn't around, I was busy, I was in love nigga, like you know what I'm saying, like I was, 1:18:40 what the fuck? I can't, I can't, I can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. Sorry, I'm sorry. Hey yo fam, like you know what I'm saying? Yeah. 1:18:50 Like, my success, you shouldn't look at my success as your demise. As a slight, yeah. If you my man, you should be happy for my success. You should be happy for me. You should be rooting for that. 1:18:58 You know what I'm saying? Like, I think certain guys want to come around, influence you to do the wrong thing so they can have some over you and like you know I mean 1:19:06 and you forever and they did like nah, bro all that tactical scandalous shit. I'm good I'm off that man like what we doing we in our 30s 1:19:14 man. You know, I'm pushing 40 I'll be 40 in 3 years like I'm about to say you said 30s Stop 1:19:30 lying, damn. Stop. I'm 38, nigga. It's an industry, A. I'm 38. Flip, knock it off. Stop. I'm on 87. Watch your fucking mouth, man. 1:19:38 Stop. Hey, yo. Stop, bro. I'm about to die. I'm about to die in my beard anyway. Get your man in here. You know what I'm saying, nigga? I'm not even 1:19:46 lying for years. Hey, yo. I'm a boy. That's what you're behind me right now, nigga. Nigga, that's fake, too. I'm on 87, nigga. Watch your fucking mouth, nigga. I'm on the A7, 1:19:54 nigga. Listen. Nigga, you ain't throw no facial hair, nigga. You got the smooth baby face so nobody can tell you your fucking age, nigga. When I die my shit, I'm back. I'm back moving. Yo, if I take this scully off, nigga, I got more 1:20:06 grades in your bed right now boy He 1:20:15 set niggas up for that 1. That nigga could barely close his eyes. He just left the spot. That nigga just spot that shit though. That nigga 1:20:23 fell for it. Oh my god. That 1:20:35 nigga went and got the best hair braider from fucking... They don't speak English. Yeah. Niggas don't speak English up there in the Bronx. 1:20:43 Got it. Yo, shout out to my hairstylist, Shauna. She the best. She do Louis, Gucci, Dior, all that. 1:20:51 She's the illest fashion hair braider. I'm gonna ask you a stupid question. Talk to me. Do you have to clear your hairstylist with your wife? Nah, clear them. 1:21:01 Clear the hair, what was your name? Do you have to say, hey, babe, this is my hair stylist? Oh, 1:21:09 my hair stylist? Nah. The stylist? I thought you meant the style. No, no, no, no. The hair stylist. The person that's doing it. But the style too, fuck that. Nigga, 1:21:17 the style too. Nah, nah, it's like, for me, like... He in love, look, look. She know, look, 1:21:26 look. For me, I wouldn't be able to like, I'm at a place where like, having kids and shit, like you grow a heart, bro. I don't know if I could fake 1:21:34 being like, I know I'm hitting this and we in the same line. You in my house, like that's foul, gang. Oh, I wasn't saying that at all. No, no, no, no, 1:21:42 I'm saying, hey. But no, no, that would have to be the reason that there was shit like that going down. You got to clear shit like, nah, we don't even do shit like that. Got it, 1:21:50 got it. I remember styles, like when I could grow my curls. Yo, and your girl be like, yo, I like your hair short. And guess what you got to do? You got to get 1:21:58 your hair short. Hey, yo, I ain't going to hold you. So the first what I thought you initially asked was like, do I gotta clear it? She do want me to do the, you know what I'm 1:22:06 saying? Cause I'll be doing the Dennis Rodman, like, you know, no hang time shit. She'd be like, yo, bring back the bees with the cornrows. Like I like when you did that. 1:22:14 So her and my hair stylists be scheming on how to get to be. Guess what it's gonna be. Guess what? That 1:22:22 sound familiar? Yes. That's what they used to, what year they told you this? I have no stylist. I have no stylist. Stupid. 1:22:31 Oh my God. Talk to me about, here's a lot I want to get to. We are fatherhood. Let's talk about fatherhood. Let's talk about fatherhood. 1:22:40 We have room full of dads and parks. And parks. I think It's a beautiful thing. It's a club that you can't 1:22:48 explain to non-fathers yet. When y'all get there, y'all gonna know the kind of like, if you're a present father and all that, like you gonna know the love that come with 1:22:56 it, the happiness, the peace that come with that, and you do everything to protect that peace. You know what I'm saying? Mm-mm. 1:23:05 You hear that? Niggas. You hear that nigga? I'm a presence farmer. Watch your mouth. Don't cry nigga. I'm just saying, you sitting here, you getting teary eyed. What's up my 1:23:13 nigga man? It's real shit. Y'all I like how you be rocking out with your daughter, bro. That's gangster, bro. I think that's player, bro. I ain't gonna hold you. It's 1:23:21 dope to see how I seen y'all do a couple of skits and all that and it dare be funny. Y'all look like twins. You know what, I see why you passing for 30, 1:23:30 what you said, 456? 18, 19, 27, 28. 38, 28. Fatherhood 1:23:40 is important, man. It's going through it, going through the trials and tribulations with your children is what matters. 1:23:48 I think that, you know, I agree with you, man. I was just thinking about when I had my oldest, you know what I'm saying, 1:23:56 what that was like. So yeah, I get it. Change your whole perspective on life, Everything. You done? I am. You done with kids? Oh, listen man, 1:24:04 whatever God give me, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's a blessing. I ain't gonna hold you though. We got our hands full right now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, there we go. There we 1:24:13 go. We got a whole football team right now. I'm about to catch up to Nick Cannon, you shit me? You got 3, right? Yeah, I got 3 joints, man. 1:24:21 He wasn't playing. You my man, I can't even crack the joke. You smooth, yo. You ain't going nowhere. This 1:24:30 nigga's never hitting the town anytime forever. I never have a umbrella. That 1:24:40 nigga all up in the maroon, that's my son. I'm not gonna lie, that nigga is not playing a fork. He didn't play a fork. That's 1:24:50 the best. You gonna sit down! Yes sir! Yes sir! Oh gosh. Yo 1:24:58 y'all play just for me. Word up. I always wanted to stand here. I don't see why her fans don't curse you out about like you 1:25:07 like That's All the time. 1:25:16 They be killin' me, bro. That is hilarious, yo. Yo, the fuck out, man. Y'all need to chill. No, that's funny. That's hilarious. That's 1:25:24 hilarious. So both of y'all being in the industry at the heist that, she being who she is, you being who you are, How was 1:25:32 the conversation that, yo, we're gonna really take this serious. Where was that conversation? How did that happen? Was it like a moment? Were you out somewhere? It 1:25:40 wasn't really like a conversation. It's just like the actions showed us like we both, we doing this, you know? I've always had 1:25:49 an admiration for her, obviously. Like she a beautiful woman, you know, but like I think in my younger days I wasn't really ready for that 1:25:57 type of woman like you know saying cuz I still was a Young man. I was still doing boyish things and I had to grow on my own right, you know 1:26:05 what I'm saying? And I think when we circle and spin the block and circle back, it was at the perfect time. It was just like I said to y'all, it's all about 1:26:13 timing, you know what I'm saying? I think what I stopped doing was chasing it because like, you know, you get lonely when 1:26:21 you like You know, no freaky like you you got to use a condom with a girl You don't know you got it. You can't kiss her like that. Like 1:26:29 well at least for me I feel like swapping, you know, saliva with a girl, you gotta at least like, you know what I'm saying? Now these niggas be kissing up here. I ain't gonna lie, 1:26:39 cause they said, these niggas, these are some kissing ass niggas. These niggas, I be 1:26:48 kissing up here. And the club, strangers. The club, for sure. The niggas. What? Yatsu? Back in my days. Yeah, I've been with my girl for a long 1:26:56 time, but back in my day. Look, we all been there. I ain't passing judgment. I was just trying to make a point. I ain't passing no judgment. No judgment passing. You 1:27:05 can't talk about the indie rock scene, making out with random girls. True that, true that. But it just feel like you just get to a place, if 1:27:13 you famous, it's like this weird disposition where you feel like, I can't even close my eyes right now. Like you got to bust your nut, no freaky, you like, so 1:27:21 like what you about to do, you know what I'm saying? And that really, that got old at a certain time. Like, and then, you know, I just, 1:27:30 I wanted a significant other. I wanted a family. I knew I wanted that. I always wanted to be a dad. I wanted a daughter. You know what I'm saying? I wanted 1:27:38 sons. I think once I started focusing on just trying to better myself overall, have 1:27:46 a spiritual cleanse, I'm not as religious as much as I'm spiritual because I just adopt from so many different religions 1:27:55 to just try and make myself better as a whole. So I think that's where it came to, it broke down to, like, I believe in God, you know what I'm saying? And 1:28:03 I think all of these things that's happening is divine because I prayed on it and manifested a lot of this, you know what I'm saying? So when they be happening, I'll be knowing 1:28:11 like, yeah. You know what I mean? They rooting for me up there, word. Manifestation. Yeah, for sure, You got to. That's some fly 1:28:19 shit. Like to say, yo. Manifest Rihanna. I'm letting him get it off. But that's fly to be like, you know what, I'm going to lead a game. I'm going to settle down with Rihanna. Start a family. It's time to run 1:28:27 around with all these girls. Start a family, yo. 1:28:37 It's time, right? It's time, it's time. It's time. Yo, God. You heard me. Actually, so I'll school you on 1:28:45 something else that has been set up here by probably me. If I go start a family with Rihanna, 1:28:53 I'm not addressing nothing that, I ain't addressing it, addressing is done. I ain't gonna lie to you. I think I've said that a few times up here. I'm not talking 1:29:01 to you niggas if I went started a family with Rihanna ever Honestly 1:29:10 because I'm going to joint I mean and I don't even got to talk about it But why even address niggas like yeah, I 1:29:18 mean it's okay At what point is the game over? It's over. For sure. I got my family. I won. Yeah, I beat 1:29:26 the game. It's over. What? For sure. You're losing to songs and shit. Top score. Yeah, just like some of the lyrics in this. I feel you. You know what it is though, 1:29:35 Joe? I'ma come clean. Still a Harlem nigga. It's just like, yeah, that too. But I ain't gonna hold you, Joe. Like, you know, I'm still a rapper, nigga. You know, 1:29:43 I'm still a man. And like, I feel you, like, my day ain't consumed by the next niggas that would be popping shit, but like, for 1:29:51 the past 5 years, niggas been throwing shots, stabbing me in the back for no reason. Like I'm talking about no reason. 1:29:59 Yeah, cause you be quiet, you be low. I be coolin', bro, And that ain't even my style to really like be comin' at niggas all day. I look at it like, man, 1:30:07 I'm just, you know, I'm gettin' my rocks off Paul's like, I said what I said and I'ma leave it alone, I'ma leave it at that, like, you know what I mean? Like, some of these songs 1:30:15 is like 2 years old, 3 years old, you know what I mean? And on top of that, if we being technical, let's 1:30:25 be honest. Let's keep it a hunnid. I was quiet for damn long, bro. I ain't put out an album in 7 years, going 1:30:33 on 8 years. 5 years of those 8 years, bro, niggas really had me in their sniper lens, man. They had me in their scope. They was talking 1:30:41 crazy. So I said what I said. But to keep it 100, which you're absolutely right. It's like some part of me 1:30:49 do gotta like, you know, move on and evolve and grow and let it be. It's all water under the 1:30:57 bridge. And some part of me gotta be petty sometimes. So like, that's just what that was. Hip hop is competitive. I said what I said, I'm talking I'm not talking 1:31:05 to 1 nigga I'm talking to all y'all niggas and that was just sick like I'm from Harlem. I'm from uptown That's what you know, like every 1:31:14 now and then You gotta pop your shit. You got absolutely right. I'm listening. I don't know what I'm thinking every Joe button 1:31:22 bar Niggas 1:31:35 is this in my girl like yeah yeah. We don't even talk about like, go get them baby, none of that, 1:31:43 none. No, I swear to God. Got you. You feel me? Like, We don't say nothing. Yo, honestly, the temperament be when 1:31:51 niggas here, niggas is being petty and catty and all that, like men, you know what I'm saying? Being catty, like females. Niggas, like, if it get to us, like, 1:32:00 we'd be laughing. Like, oh, word. Look, look. That's bugged out. But like, don't get it twisted. You don't know. 1:32:08 Look, when I grabbed her ass in 2012 on that stage And I took the train back to Harlem right no no no I'm getting them confused 1:32:16 that that wasn't the same award, but when I grabbed her ass on stage type shit for the for the cockiness remix 1:32:26 Bro, you know how everybody that did that for Harlem? They was cheering when I came back. It was almost like 1:32:34 I don't know like it was like almost a parade for me you know what I'm saying like my homies everybody was you know what I mean 1:32:42 and so like we in a sport where in the barbershop I mean you know how hard it was to defend being an H.I. 1:32:50 Rocky fan this whole time? I ain't put out music in 8 years. You know how hard it is to sit in the barbershop and hear niggas like, yeah, niggas is saying this, and this, 1:32:58 and this, what your man gonna say, what your man gonna do? Like, ah, ah, ah. So I didn't feel compelled. Yeah, let's not get too crazy in New 1:33:07 York City. Let's not get too crazy in New York City. Sheesh! Let's not get... Sheesh! Like, what 1:33:15 are we talking about here? Is it still new? Fuck with this! I thought I'd probably die in prison Expensive tasting 1:33:23 women Ain't had no pot to piss in Have my kitchen full of dishes Like I'm doing a dick shit, trigger 1:33:31 finger itch and fuck her into Super Ditch. Yeah, it's still New York City, let's not get wild. 1 train, like, in New York 1:33:39 it's hard for them to do that. You can't do that in New York. Talk to me about, Talk to me about, actually I 1:33:48 would like to know who are some of the men that you, that inspire your fashion? Who are some 1:33:56 of the men that you think are well put together, well dressed, are there any brands that people should be on the lookout 1:34:04 for like all that shit? I gotta ask okay, and I'm asking you this with the soccer shit This nigga 1:34:12 looks good, man, brother. This is my mom clear collaboration. You see we got the don't be dumb in the back right here. You know I'm saying something like yeah, it's 1:34:20 online light little Mon clear She had the black little I was like, okay. Oh Look at the back But 1:34:34 clean with you. First and foremost, the first hip hop artist to get accepted 1:34:45 and desired by the fashion industry, the big European fashion industry 1:34:53 was Tupac Shakur. He walked for Versace. He walked down the runway with Quincy Jones' daughter and a bodyguard, 1:35:01 like as models, gangsta. We talking about 9596. Like Pac 1:35:10 is the reason that everybody in the industry who started wearing Versace respectfully. You know what I'm saying? Gianni 1:35:18 Versace said some very poor things about him, said he was the most beautiful man he ever seen. Invited that man. Said Milan. 1:35:29 Goddamn right. N***a tried to fly Pac out. Pac got flew out, but like... 95. I'm bringing to 1:35:37 work with you. I'm bringing to work with you. Word. I'm bringing to work with you. Fly That he went to the Georgia or money show and I'm 1:35:45 on he rest in peace It's 1 of the most phenomenal men suit makers ever. So 1:35:54 Pac is up there. Grand Puba, fly ass motherfucker, man. Grand Puba? Yes sir. Let's not forget, right? Slick 1:36:03 Rick, man. Dana Dane. Come on, man. Dana Dane. You know who else was fly to me that I feel like they didn't 1:36:11 get they flowers but they really fly y'all seen Bay most death yeah he used to get better back he 1:36:19 used to get busy right now he's busy bro he been getting busy for the past 10 years. Like he was on Rick Owens. 1:36:27 That's where you got your scarf game from. There you go. Yo, you ride on most defs, huh? There you go. Yo, you ride all steps, huh? There you go. Yo, you ride all. Most 1:36:35 deaf is him. Most deaf is him. Yeah, I seen big. I ain't gonna hold you. Jay-Z, man. Jay-Z was fly. Fabulous. That was 1:36:44 like 1 of the most ultimate fly. Fab is 1 of the reasons that I'm a fly nigga today. Fabulous is always gonna 1:36:52 be probably like number 1 for me. You feel like the young kids are giving Fab a hard time on the on the on the fashion 1:37:01 list like they see a couple of bad picks and be like, ah, but they young, they don't fucking know 1:37:09 about Fab's place in fashion. I'ma be honest, Fab never catered to, like for 1:37:18 me, I could be streetwear today. I could be hip hop throwback jersey tomorrow. I could be tailor suit the next day. Like Fab is 1:37:26 just gonna give you just hip hop. That's the way he dress, you know what I'm saying? And I think they associate that with being a YN. So that's 1:37:34 where the jokes come in at. They like, you know what I'm saying? Like even Jim and Cam, like for me, like those guys was like, those the guys that 1:37:42 reason why I do this, like, you know what I mean? That's a big topic today amongst the elder statesmen and the young people. How should 1:37:50 older niggas dress in hip hop? Yo, I'ma be honest, my opinion is dress like yourself, bro. If you dress a certain way, 1:37:59 dress like that, bro. Don't let these niggas gas you up to be something you not. Because then when you don't do that right, they gonna be laughing at you, you feel me? Then they gonna call you a wannabe 1:38:07 and oppose it. You know what I'm saying? If you wanna step your shit up, respectfully do that. You know what I mean? Try your best, but like, I think 1:38:15 if you wanna wear a goose down every day and you wanna wear sweats every day, do that. Why the fuck, nah, you know what I mean? 1:38:23 But for me, I really feel like the dad swag is my bag. I like to dress like a young 1:38:31 entrepreneur. It just suits me well. Like Slick Rick and them niggas, Big Daddy Kane, them niggas was fly in the 3 piece 1:38:39 suits and stuff, for real. For real. But then you came in here and you were able to instantly identify the maker of these beautiful 1:38:47 couches, which said that you into the interior decor. Oh, I'm a big collector of these. I got these in my storage unit just sitting ain't 1:38:55 no space for them No, no, like we just got so much furniture. I love these these like I 1:39:12 like I like I like I like I got them little couches in storage. You can't try to shit like sick. These Harlem niggas, 1:39:20 I swear to God. I had these shits about 12 years in storage. Yeah, yeah, man. You know what I mean? They can't fit in 1 1:39:28 of my properties. We had so much furniture. On the 14th floor? The back-up, back-ups. We built it on the 14th floor 1:39:36 though. You know what I'm saying? I might throw them joints up there. They match with a mirror from the Duchess of Wales. I 1:39:45 totally disagree. I call it that shit a beat. What? Oh man. All right, fuck the interior. 1:39:54 -> 100:04.000] Fuck the interior decor. Fuck your little shit up. Let's talk about the acting. Let's talk about the acting. How's that feeling? Yo.