Episode

0:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it 0:08 is not serious. It is not real. No 1 is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you 0:16 anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your 0:24 best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. I would flip whatever. Why are men so insecure? You can't pack this. 0:32 You can't pack this to tell a grown man to sit down. Why are men. You do that to kids. Yo, sit your- But why are men so insecure and 0:40 why are our egos and masculinity so fragile that something like patting the chair before he sits down 0:49 is like disrespect. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, and he's not a stranger. Like this is my, if you're doing it to 0:57 a stranger, be prepared to fight. But your man though, I love him, he love me. So what's the beat? Just don't pat the seat, bro. Just don't disrespect. Yo, 1:05 I'm in the bank yesterday, no lie. So I get a withdrawal at the bank. And the lady gives me the pen, and I fill out the withdrawal slip. 1:14 I fill out the withdrawal slip. So she about to give me the money and as she giving me the money, why this little 5 foot 4 Spanish nigga just reached 1:22 across me and the money to get the pin? Now yo, I need to get back. He didn't respect you, yeah. Yeah, he didn't respect you. Dog, I felt 1:30 like, yo I'm looking at him like this and the lady looking at me. I'm looking I'm like, bro What'd you say? Nothing That's what you expected. 1:39 I was in Cranford Bro, no, no, no, no Good 1:49 You could have solved that real easy. 1 call. That's fucked up. This is my ice. No, 1:57 this is not the time to... You can't make ice. So you just balled your fist up and then. And then say, no, he'll out, bitch. 2:06 So how does he know not to do it again? He don't. And he gonna do it again. That's the thing. When you walk in there, he gonna wait for you. Yeah. Yeah, TD Bank right now. Whenever it's at the 2:14 bank, right? Mm-hmm. What's that bank you said you got, USSA or something? USAA. You got USAA? I 2:23 got that from his mom. Mother. They could be. I got 1. Yo, how old you gotta be before you start riding mom? It's 2:34 matriarch matriarchy USA So USA ain't got cars. It's matriarchy. It's matriarchy. It's matriarchy. It's matriarchy. Move your hand, nigga. You know what I mean? Yeah, USA ain't bad. What up, man? At all. What the fuck you talking about? At 2:42 all. Let him talk. Let him talk. He don't know. I'm fucked with USA. USA ain't bad. They insurance and all that be the truth. That should be $7. They did. Bank accounts, credit, 2:50 you mean? The whole shit, everything. That's the 1 thing my ex was good for Usa a being in the army Dollins 3:01 Anyway. You had an army, I asked if I was in an army? I have an illustrious history, a romantic history. 3:10 Why are you looking at my band? You have a couple of words past illustrious. I thought your 3:18 girls was in like this What you saying about my girls Great 3:29 girls the ones that I know them the homies still yes I'm 3:40 not doing this, Wish. I don't care who you talk to, that's my man. I'm mighty, I was. Nothing can change that. He don't know to the new ex anymore. I don't even care, man. Yo, hold up. I don't 3:48 care, that's my man, regardless, yo. What you saying, Big Mark? I was thinking about the money, because of the MJ trailer. Ah, yeah. You know I'm 3:56 excited. You know I'm excited. You know, I was going to ask you, and it looked great. It was Michael Jackson biopic. I was going to suggest that maybe me 4:05 and you go actually see the film. I love it. Why don't we double date? I think I would love to do that. I think we should go ahead and go watch the film. 4:13 Maybe you might have a different opinion of Mike when you walk out of it? Your boss is a stupid. No, I think it'll be the same. Okay. There ain't gonna 4:21 be no film gonna change that. Yeah, no film gonna change that. Shit. But no, that'll be dope. I haven't watched the full, was it 2 minutes? Like 2, yeah, 2 minutes, 17 4:29 seconds. Something like that. Something like that. Give or take. Give or take. What'd you think? How many times you watched it? A few times. A 4:37 few times. It looks good though. It looks good. It does look good. I'm interested to see how they deliver it. The dynamic with Mike and his pops looks like it's going to be a focal point 4:45 throughout the movie. What, you like whooping him in his pajamas or something? No, he had him dancing in his pajamas. I mean, anybody that's seen the American Dream story from back in the day, 4:53 is new that that's how he, Papa Joe did. Get your ass up out of bed, get the rehearsal. Do some work in his pajamas. I mean, it worked though. It Got them out of Gary and got them to Hollywood. 5:02 And Michael paid that forward. See? What? See? I knew where he was going. I saw them all the way. Just can't help it. What? 5:11 What, what I'm just saying? It's Black History Month, man. It is Black History Month. Let's big up the black. Shout out to Black History Month. Shout out to Carter G. Woodson. Good shit. Yeah, but I liked 5:19 it. I'm looking forward to it. Shout out to Carter G. Woodson. Good shit. Yeah. But I liked it. I'm looking forward to it. Shout out to Carter G. Woodson. What you got going on for Black History Month? Man, everything, man. I'm everywhere for Black 5:27 History Month, man. You booked and busy. Booked. It's my busiest month of the year by far, by far. It's a blessing, man. So I pay the bills for the rest of the year. So I'm 5:35 grateful. Nice. You doing anything locally? That we can come up to? Yeah, I'm doing 2 events in New York on the 24th and 25th. 1 is at Pace University, or like on 5:43 that Thursday, I think the 24th, I'm doing a corporate event the day before. I don't want to say where so they don't get canceled. But, they 5:52 don't know yet. You going to get on your DEI shit? I don't know. Yeah, it's like a DEI Black History Month thing. I did a joint for the New Jersey Port 6:00 Authority in New Jersey, in Jersey City like last month, and like, again. Why you don't tell us about none of your local shit? Cause y'all niggas ain't going to the Port. Nah, we gonna come to Pace. I'm definitely coming to Pace. 6:08 Come to Pace, I would love if y'all came to, I would love if y'all came to Pace. It would mean a lot to me. But the Port Authority, they knew you-ish. A couple of the women said they knew you 6:17 growing up. Not like nothing bad, they all say good shit. But everybody wanted to let me know they knew you. Yeah, this guy's a nutcase, bro. Just telling you, man. This nigga's crazy, bro. He's a 6:25 nutcase because you know people in the Port Authority? No, he's a nutcase because he always brings event back to me 6:33 where he meets somebody that potentially knows who I am. Well, sometimes they be knowing you. They know you. They know you. 6:42 They wanna hit you with the other day. Knew the shit out you. Fucking nutcase. Yo, she hated his ass. I ain't gonna put the whole story up last, but I was in the fish market, 6:50 but I had my own business. Oh shit. And she was just like, I watched, she's like, I knew that voice. And I was like, she said it like she knew me, like 6:58 we were friends. I was like, No, but she said it like we was friends. You know what I mean? And she was like keep keep kicking ass on that on that podcast I love what you do to ish every day. 7:06 I was like, man, it's don't argue every day. She's like, I hate his guts What you did to her yo? I won't tell too much of the story But it 7:15 didn't do nothing to her is the point. But she was talking to me like me and Ish not friends. I don't like that. People walk up to me like you ain't going to talk shit about Ish to me in 7:23 public. You know what I mean? So after she talked all that shit, I just nodded and smiled and said I agree. But what did he ask? She said, yo. I called him. Yo, don't 7:31 say nothing. Yeah, she told me. She told you. She told me not to say nothing. She told you who she was. She told you who she was. Yeah, she told me the whole story. First name, last 7:39 name, the whole story. The whole story was that you not tell Ish. So you supposed to have loyalty to this stranger. To this complete stranger in the fish market. And not your mans. That you've been court-sided the game with exactly I 7:47 call it's before I got out there fish market. Yeah, they got my son restrained Yeah, 7:58 man, it's right away man nobody gonna talk shit about is in front of me do you you know the person Are you cool with the person flower them or whatever? I haven't seen 8:06 I'm not trying before I don't know listen, I haven't seen the person in over 10 years. You know the last time I seen the person physically? I saw him 1 time. When 8:14 you was checking out the hotel? When me and you went to the Dave Chappelle, Kevin Hart, and Chris Rock show. Oh, okay, okay. 8:23 That was 5 years ago. Before that I hadn't seen him. He glued somebody in the line. Know what it was? Yeah. We did. When me and you seen Chappelle 8:31 that weekend, right? Remember? Yeah, of course I used to remember too. Big ass head. We did go to that shit. He got a memory 8:39 bank. It's a bad name. Look at me, he's an idiot, bro. Hey! Look 8:49 at his hair growing back. Yeah, I ain't gonna hold you. I was teasing you last episode, but it is growing back. Why you looking at? I know that. What are you doing? What's 8:57 the secret? Turn around and let me see. I'll tell you later. Turn around, turn around. No, it is. It is? From this side, it's definitely growing back. It's growing back. How? 9:05 I'll tell you off of mine. Drops you put in the- Yo, the things y'all gatekeep. Right. I want enough. I'll tell you off of 9:14 here how he's growing back. Oh, he shoot him up? You know it's some wall natural shit. Shoot him up. Are you injecting? Some peptides 9:22 in a head. I'm not injecting you I 9:39 want to know what this with the you look at man inject you look injectable I saw him on TV, he had seawater in his head. Vodka, do it matter? Let me rub some seawater. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. It don't matter to me, I just wanna know what it is. You do look mad. It might grow your hair and shrink your dick or some shit. I wanna know what the size of it is. You look injectable, nigga. You look mad injectable. You look injectable in more ways than 1. 0, yeah. Stop your shit, 9:48 bro. Stop your shit, bro. I don't feel like figuring that 1 out. Your hoodie say coochie? Huh? Yeah. Of course 9:56 it does. Wow. I didn't even peep that so bad. I didn't make the hoodie, but I mean. Since you wore it. Who made the hoodie? Right. 10:04 He said it like they tied it on him. Who made the hoodie? S. No. 10:13 Oh, no. No. So who's the S? No. You'll get on your show next. Y'all niggas. Y'all niggas. 10:22 You're 2 peas in a pod. Oh, God damn it. Yo, get me off the show right now. Tell 10:30 me to leave. Hey, Flip, he's trying to leave. Tell me to leave, boy. I'll turn up on these niggas right now. I think it's a nice city. You ain't 10:38 never lied. You ain't never lied, Cory. That's the truth. Holy shit. Yo, you want something from her before. I don't remember. Oh, you remember that 1? I don't remember. 10:46 Everybody in here wore something. Everybody wore something. Not everybody. Stop it, stop it, stop it, stop it. Not everybody. Not everybody. Not everybody. 2 people. Stop it, sit in your wagon and be in your 10:54 wagon. Or everybody wore some shit. You flip wore her stuff before. I wore that 1 shirt. You ain't never wear a t-shirt? Dog, I didn't 11:03 know that was a t-shirt. I spilled coffee on a shirt and grabbed a shirt. See, I wasn't rapping fast. So you brought the bottle of beer at 730 then. Right. What'd 11:11 you say? So you brought the bottle of beer at 730, right? Bottle of beer. Yeah. You're Diminished, Jones. It's Diminished Society, Jones. It's all right. 11:20 It's all right. It's not ringing a bell. It's not ringing a bell. Back to y'all though. Who y'all? That's 11:29 crazy. Multiple people on this cast have worn Ess's merchandise. 1 shirt that she brought up here. I've never worn nothing, but you wore some. I have. Imani 11:38 wore stuff. No, I did not wear the shirt. I don't even know Ess. I mean, that's... The street says you got 30% of your shit. Of what? That's that itch. Oh, she your silent partner? Ess. 11:46 I did hear that on the streets, but I didn't believe it. You didn't hear it on the streets. No, I didn't. It's in the streets. Joe put it on the concrete and the gofies ran with it. You have to be joking, 11:54 yo. Yo, be accountable for your behavior and the shit. Stop putting my name and everything you do with these bitches. All right, now I don't care about your serious 12:02 face. Nigga, you the only person that come up here and associate with me with S from the Rip. Nigga, I've never done no business with S. You put that on this podcast and your fucking cronies run 12:10 with it. I don't care about your attitude. Now, your go. That's a fact. I'm the only 1 up here that's ever affiliated you with S. Is that what you're saying? In business, yes. That's 12:19 a fact. So fix your face and your attitude, nigga. You never did that? Yes, I did. So what is he talking about? I don't know that. I know you, your voice is louder than his. I ain't 12:27 hear him, I heard you. Oh, that's a fact. He says you a squeak. Look at the ice, look at the Ice. The funny thing is, I'm the 1 that says she own party. You should like, I don't 12:35 know what that was. As I beat that, I'm like, how'd you get on me? Nigga, that was an easy go-to where something take off my voice is loud. It was a joke though. I don't start 12:43 at all. Nobody else get blamed for nothing. It was just a joke when I said it, but I did hear that. I did hear that though. But it's not wrong with supporting people. 12:51 As with my friend, I'm not knocking S. I'm saying that S and I have never conducted any business at all. So who is your silent partner? Nobody, Antoine. 13:00 Johnny Nonos. Johnny Nonos. Same as Bruno Mars. What the hell you saying? In 13:09 the inventory check. Right, Exactly. So almost, she shipped that to you, like she got your address and shipped it or you met up behind her and she gave you a package? I would wish 13:17 that you guys would just let me wear No, I didn't have to buy it I'm 13:33 growing it out everything I do. I'm wearing the hoodie, I'm 13:41 growing my hair out. But you shout out how I'm on that. You say that, but you do shit to give points out. You shout out how I'm on that though, E. No the fuck I don't. You would never know. You didn't wear a coochie hoodie and say, nobody's gonna 13:49 say something about a coochie Yeah, 14:09 niggas is nasty. If they call you freaky, we always say you sexual. And then you wear a shirt that say coochie. So now I would just only be feeding into the narrative. It's don't matter where the hoodie came 14:17 from. I'm just going to say, you ain't surprised that we talking about it. When I asked that question, it wasn't about wearing a cap. Yeah, it's not a big deal. She made a dope hoodie, she gave me the hoodie, and I'm wearing 14:25 it. No doubt. Listen. No doubt. Don't you go and fuck it all up. There's a lawyer in Boston named Joe, 14:33 right, Who paid some local rappers to do his commercial. 14:42 No, no, no, no. It can't be worse than them fucking top dog. And of course, I 14:51 have nothing better to do than play it for y'all. Call Joe. Every time you dealing with an issue for a pistol, you get caught 14:59 up with that chrome pickin' for the call Joe. Every time you caught up on that block with them rocks, and you dealing with the cops, you gonna call Joe. Every time 15:07 you looking for a vice because of ice, you ain't got an act to fight you, you gonna call Joe. You ain't got a way to fight the jailer. 15:16 You're going to jail. I'm telling you right now. You going to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. 15:25 You going to fuck the jail. Last time we saw the lawyer in the videos. You're all going to sell blocks. We 15:33 know how that turned out. The fuck are you talking about? If you're guilty, call me. Get the fuck out of here. I'm gonna call that lady. What? No, you can call Joe if you want to. Oh man. That's 15:41 your last call. Yeah. That was great. I was looking for something totally different. That is great. Yo. I knew you were talking about top dog that top dog commercial You 15:53 don't like that shit where you can't possibly like them top dog commercials bro, but they were she's already holding and They are insulting. 16:01 I'm with you right. I'm saying it working top dog commercial, huh? They play all over the radio dog. Oh, you don't listen to the radio dog at all? You ain't missing out. You know the 16:10 Top Dog commercial? Yeah. Yo you walking with the beat the hardest beat. That dog bite 16:18 you. It's not a little dog. Yo, this shit is crazy, bro. Maybe I don't know it. You ain't never heard these shits? No. You had to have heard the 16:26 top. They got 1 now with the Jersey. Yo, they put the Jersey club behind them now. It's a nigga voice sound like this. And be like, yo, you walking. I've heard 16:34 this, but not on radio or TV. I heard this from somebody. And it's on all, I was in DC. Yo, top dog. 16:42 It's like the white funk master flex yes yeah yes yes That's a great way to put it. High-pitched voice, he starts saying shit like, you 16:50 think he about to go crazy because the beat is, you know, a rapper like they talk before they get into their shit, that's what it sound like he about to do. That's the most insulting shit on the planet. It is. 16:59 But it's only you, Imani, and Flip that be needing lawyers, like criminal lawyers. No, you do too. Stop playing. You got to just walk into it. Stop playing, yo. You walked into 17:08 that 1. Stop playing, bro. More than us. I don't want no smoke with you, dog. You know what I mean? I'm good. I don't want no problems. I forgot. You know what I mean? 17:17 You good. That was a good 1. I don't want no problems, bro. That was a good 1. He tried though. Sometimes I can really put my foot in my mouth. Yes, I'm right, bro. You know what I mean? Your body parts be all over the place. 17:38 I like the jokey move in and the topic I have is serious. What? What is it? Kevin Gates. Oh, yeah. Kevin Gates on Shannon Charm. Having a real 17:46 serious conversation about him being you know mm-hmm yeah might be heavy for the start what's the conversation though oh 17:56 really particular to situation that we've experienced as young adults I mean as young kids that 18:05 you don't take acknowledgement of that. Who's we? You. Oh. Nevermind. I don't know the topic, but I do think that the we should be clarified. The 18:13 we, we. Imani's crazy, bro. I don't know what you're talking about really. We meaning that we both have experienced sex at a very very mommy Oh, you mean you and ish 18:21 you and Antoine. Yeah We yeah, I lost my virginity. I was 11 the girl was 13. Imani keeps trying to equate that 18:29 to a 19 year old girl or 20 year old person that coerced me into humping them. No, I'm 18:38 saying at that age, experiencing sex at that age, no matter how it happened, no matter how old the other person was, you're not ready for that. But that's not what you say. You say 18:46 that I was groomed. Oh, well, we, That's what you be saying. I say that too, and I didn't even know. Nigga. Niggas. Yeah. Yo, 18:54 2 young dummies, 2 young dummies having sex, it ain't no, you know what I'm saying? She wasn't the aggressor, nigga, you know what I 19:02 mean? See what I'm saying. I don't know if you want to phrase it like that. I don't think you can finish this. You can leave it there. No, I'm saying I knew full well what I was 19:11 doing and wanted to partake in said activity. And that wasn't, was that the same for you and Money? No, at 11, 12, you don't know what you're fully doing. No, you did. You 19:19 probably seeing that and you were groomed through other ways, through seeing other people do things. I don't want to say he was groomed. Not groomed. Programmed a little bit. Programmed. Programmed. 19:28 You were made to normalize something at 11 years old. 11 years old, you shouldn't be having sex. Shouldn't have it at 11. But I don't want to say he was rude. I would agree with that. It was 2 people who shouldn't be having sex, having sex and stuff. Yes, 19:36 yes. And with you, it was? Older person. Okay. So it's different, it's different. It's definitely different. That's true, that's the difference. Is it okay to ask how old the person 19:44 was? Oh, 17. And you were? 12. See, it's a drastic difference. 13 is older than 11, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. 19:52 2 in 5 years is different. Somebody that's 17 is outside actively in high school participating in sexual activities. I don't think 20:00 this should have happened to either 1 of y'all. No, I'm just saying, but when you were in like elementary school, you think you'd have, you know what I mean? Do you still talk to her? Yeah, yeah, we cool. And am 20:08 I, do you still talk to her? No. She live far away, but you know, she was a family friend. Like she went to church with us. See what I'm saying? What? No. That's 20:16 not right. No. Well, he said nothing. Yo, who don't you speak to anymore? I didn't hear what he said. A lot of people. Like who? People 20:25 that have wronged me, people that I've had fall outs with. You've had long lasting relationships, like for real, like from 11? Yeah, Joe, I 20:33 have a bunch of friends that I speak to from 11 I speak to some people daily that I met when I was 11 why because we're friends. You know what real 20:41 friendships are no No, Why are you so boggled that people have like long lasting friendships like that? Yeah, it's crazy to me. Or that he has so many 20:49 of it. No, I don't have a bunch out there. Well, he's a unique case. Yeah, he's a unique case. You don't have any friends that you don't for 30 years? I do. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. 20:57 You were 20, 30 years ago. For sure. My math again. You were 20, 30 years ago. Alright, 39 year friendships. That's not weird to hear somebody say 21:05 I have a bunch of friends from 11 You added bunch, but no I do have friends from 11. Yes. I got a middle school crew. We still right I'm gonna 21:14 stand up dude my whole life and I ain't necessarily have to fall out with nobody as we got older. I don't think it's weird. I think it's probably weird to us because we don't move like that. 21:22 I don't think it's weird in this case. No. You've been a boss since you was 11. You've been 21:30 a sly since you was 11. Like so far, Mark is 47. So if he has some friends from 17 years, that's 30 years. You 21:39 understand what I'm saying? Or friends from middle school or elementary school. I got friends from middle school. I'm surprised if you're that well traveled and you moved around a lot and still maintain those friendships. 21:47 But if you stay in the same neighborhood, all of you guys grew up together, you guys kind of still frequent the same spot, I can see how you can still be friends with somebody for that long. I got friends from 21:56 grade school. Yeah, see I'm saying like me. I don't understand it because I've never but I got 1. I also 22:04 went to like the same school, like we didn't, high school, grade school, middle school, it was like the same people, just gated more people, you know what I'm 22:12 saying? I can see how living in New York, like the Bronx or whatever, you go to a whole different fucking borough for the next school. I can see how that'd be different. That changes things. What 22:23 was your school? You wanna continue? Bergen prep, Bergen school. Y'all are my friends and I trust y'all. Oh man, you're so aggy. So 22:32 I don't have anything to say to what y'all saying. When this part ends and I go home, yeah, 22:40 it's weird. It's weird. When you're laying down and talking to your girls, they're like, yo, these weird ass niggas. They can say to make that not weird to me. Damn, 22:48 I'm on they side. I think how you process friendship might be a little weird. Maybe weird. It is. There you go. It is. You also moved around a lot too as a 22:56 young person. I think it's normal for you to move on. You went to fucking school in the south, all that shit. I can see how you would not have maintained relationships. Joe's lived in New 23:05 Jersey. He's nuts. 90% of his life. But I'm saying he went to the fucking school. He tried to burn down. He went to the fucking prep school. Yeah, my travels, 23:13 that's what's throwing me off. I can see how that is. As we age, as we become adults, naturally your travels will send y'all on 23:21 different paths. But you also talk about kid travels, like you've traveled a lot as a kid. I'm only at kid because 23:30 he said 11 and that's what threw me off. I got friends from when I was 16 and 17. Shit, Dub B is at every fucking party, 23:38 I get that. 11, it's like why would I wanna talk to you at 39 again? Cause y'all still got a bond. No, so you saying talk to you again like 23:46 it was a 28 year gap. I'm talking to you, you maintain the level of friendship. Because we still are bonded, Joe, they still friends. From 23:54 when we were 11. Yes, we grew together. Y'all got it, y'all got it. Y'all got it, y'all got it. You process friends differently. That's what it 24:02 is, B. Yeah, you gotta have a very weird outlook on friendship. Cause what's the difference in meeting a person at 11 and meeting them at 17? I'm just saying. No, 24:10 no, no, meeting them, just meeting them. Whatever y'all go through from that meeting point on, It's still life. There's a difference. No, it's very different. It's still life, bro. 24:18 You still going through life, my nigga. That's all I'm saying. At 11, you are under your parents' fingerprint. If they move, you gotta move. Whatever their life 24:26 is doing, or you stationary. It's not really. At 17, you kinda. Yeah. Yeah, it's different. At 17, your path is kind of laid 24:34 out. That's not necessarily true. I live by myself at 17. But see, that's where it's different for you. But, dog, think about this. Have you met somebody in middle school 24:42 and you met them in high school? What's the difference? That's what I'm trying to say. Have you met somebody in middle school in seventh grade? Man, shit. Man, shit is different. There's a big difference 24:50 from middle school and high school. No, it's not. You're the same person. And meeting somebody. Forget the friendship. That's the other part that's throwing me off. At no point 24:59 am I going to be the person that wants to you're not the same person from middle school to high school. But neither are they. Neither are they. Everybody went through life and grew 25:07 up, and again, these are your friends. Everybody's like a big old man, and some people will make it through. Junior high school or middle school, you may have some commonalities or some shared life experiences, 25:15 or just by sheer proximity, y'all are friends once you could get up dress yourself and go on Looking 25:23 back You 25:34 saying in high school middle school high school Middle school all of that fine, And then we got to high school. We still fuck with hoes. We got to college. 25:43 We still fuck with hoes. I move away, I come back, guess what? He still like hoes. He still like sports. He still like rap. We still have the same common shit. When I 25:51 interned a business venture, I try to pull my mans in it. If they don't wanna fuck with it, they don't wanna. From middle school? Yes. All right, I'm done with this shit. That's the better person to do 25:59 it. I know this motherfucker. Bro, 1 of my closest friends, we conduct real estate. He's like, right, I speak to this nigga 345 times a day. 26:07 I met him in seventh grade Call him Let's talk to him Let's see if he answers mr. 26:15 Seventh grade since you got such long lasting friendships. Let's see, fancy friendship, man. If it rings once, it goes to voicemail. Nigga, just 26:23 call me at 1042 AM. All right, but now it's 04:00. Let's see what he got to say. He gonna pick up too, first ring. Let's see. Oh. 26:33 Yo. Yo, I'm 26:42 calling you live from the JoBudden Podcast. Please don't say anything incriminating. How long have I known you and how long have we been friends? Okay. 26:54 What the fuck? They even talk alike. Since seventh grade, right? What did I say? What did I say? Seventh grade. What did I say? I 27:02 said seventh grade, right? How long you got been friends? Yeah, can I talk to him? Sure. Can you talk to Joey then? No, no. I'm not talking to him. He can ask whatever 27:10 question you want to ask, nigga. I got a man, I can talk. Nah, we good. What's my man name? His name? His name? Nate? Troy. Let me talk to Troy. 27:18 Troy, you here? Can you hear me? You on speaker? How you doing, man? I'm good, how are you? I'm good, 27:26 I'm good. What y'all got in common? What do we have in common? Yeah. Like 27:35 what's so special about your friendship that he has maintained it since the seventh grade? Like that sound like a real 27:43 special bond. Like, could you speak to me about it? I believe he's solid and very trustworthy. We will always 27:51 be the 2 youngest in our classes all the way up to high school. Alright, you got it, Troy. No, he wants to talk about the nigger shit. Troy, 28:00 you got it, big dog. He's smart and sturdy. Sports, hoes. You got it. No, no answer before we say. I 28:08 believe it. You trustworthy and you sturdy, so from the sixth grade we rockin like we've had some fun together running the streets. Yes have 28:19 a good day my brother dog I don't see how you can't I can't make sense of that you 28:27 you probably know you serious He's really said this a bunch of times yeah, I can't make sense you know you never took a step back to think 28:35 maybe you are The person with the weird. Oh, no, I know I'm weird. You know, okay. I know I'm weird I'm not saying that what I think is normal. Yeah, I think there's a 28:43 middle ground I think that should y'all do is weird and I think the shit I do is weird. I think there's a healthy middle ground in there somewhere. I think there's more people that have those 28:51 type of friendships than people like you that look at them that way. I totally disagree with that. I think there is. Totally, totally. Especially outside of metropolis, big 29:00 cities. Like I said, big cities where you just move around, but small towns, you know people your whole fucking life. You know, they family, they mothers, they aunts, all of that shit. 29:08 And also growing up, we grew up in neighborhoods a lot, I mean like, we was outside playing together, we was outside hooping together, we was outside, didn't go to school with them. Niggas that You had a fight with 3 weeks ago. 29:17 Y'all niggas is best friends. You know what I'm saying? Like that's just how you grow up. I did all of those things in my childhood that y'all are saying. There's never a time in my 29:25 30s that I wanted to pick up the phone and call the niggas that I had next with at 16. See, that's what you keep doing. You're putting a 14 year gap. There's no gap for 29:33 a lot of people. There's no gap. And part of that is your own unique life. 21, 24, 27, 30. In my 20s, I was a star. 29:41 That's what I'm saying, your life is different. I wasn't calling anybody else. But in your 20s, you used to go to the same barber shop with the people. Yes, as I should 29:49 have. It's crazy. So right now you consider us stars. Everybody up here you consider to be a star now? Yes. So right now, 29:59 it levels at stars. All right, our own level. Size stars. Size stars. You're about to shit on the constellation. I'm trying to figure out what you're gonna do. It's the white dwarfs and the supernovas. Everybody ain't the sun. The constellation 30:07 set up is so different. The man star. But go ahead. So 30:16 you think that, because you wasn't the Sun when you was 20 and then you wasn't the Sun when you was 25 And when you was 28, what's the Sun? This is the 30:24 big star the biggest star in the sky No, I was the Sun at 20 and then 24 Not so much 27 a bright Sun at 24 30:32 27 not so much 30 night. Not so much. That's my point So So now you're saying when you turned 20 and you was the son, you left all them niggas 30:41 alone. I mean, in your words, I'm saying life travels took us different places. True. Yeah, that's a fact. 30:49 That's understandable, but a lot of people don't have that. Guess what 1 commonality was? What? You going back to Elizabeth for the strip clubs. So your travels 30:58 wasn't that far, far. You didn't move to France. You still were a local dude where I could see you outside and what up my nigga You drinking 31:06 blah blah blah blah blah, and we can still maintain a level of friendship Yeah, I think on the bar and the barbershop are 2 spots where that happened for me. Yeah, yeah Yo, you are not 31:18 This niggas crazy Wait, I know And now I see it your way now. That's totally 31:26 possible. That's true. All right, man, that's me. Yo, get back to Kevin Gates, yo. Yeah, what? We want to talk about Kevin Gates right now. I mean, we could. He brought 31:34 it up. I don't get it, son. Went up with a little tangent, but it wasn't. I just want to find it. That's what it is. That's crazy. But 31:42 yeah, the barbershop is on the other side. Yeah, every day. You go to the barbershop, you're going to talk to the niggas you knew since you was the little is And those are your friends. That's what 31:50 happened. No, they and those are not it. Yeah That's another part where I'm having to hiccup just the word Friends. 31:59 Yeah. All right. Most of our friends at 12 Okay, the sandbox You're not 12 All right, we were friends at 12. Okay? Ooh, the sandbox. You were not 12 32:07 in the sandbox. There's a whole nother day. You were at 12 in the sandbox. You can't put in the sandbox. Oh, no. That 32:16 boobop. Boobop. Oh, it's like you were a special child, but I didn't think you meant that way. You take a buck as it says, don't put it in your head. Still on the sandbox 32:24 playing. Serious question for you. How many marks do you think it would take to beat up Deontay Wilder? 32:33 How many marks? In a fight, not a boxing match, but a fight. A fight. He minors on our team. No holds barred. No, let him answer. Don't say 32:41 nothing. Don't say nothing. Tell me what you're talking for. Yeah, just let him answer. And y'all get to attack him all at once? Yeah. Whatever y'all want to do. Well, before you get to me ask how many for yourself? No Do 32:51 you and any cancer for Like for like before 32:59 thank you. Thank you go for and how many and how many amani's? How many amani's? Maybe to 33:08 get like that probably say go for 4445. Corey, how many of you would it take? Yo, do y'all understand, do y'all take, all 33:16 right. How many Corey's would take, how many? He says, he's 6'7", 220. He's 6'7", 220. He's having a fight. 6'7", 220, professional 33:24 fight. Yeah. He's gonna take a fucking, a bunch of Yeah How many is a bunch of bunch Get the fuck out of it. I think it's gonna take 3 quarries. All right. 33:33 Okay, forget Deontay Waller for a second. Yeah. How many of you you think it takes to beat John Jones? He's a fucking professional fucking 33:41 fighter. A lot more than Deontay Waller. A lot, a way lot more. All right, So give me a number. Because I see y'all just have a different view of 33:49 Deontay Wilder. Give me the John Jones, John Bones Jones. Well, I know what that, because Deontay Wilder, I mean John Jones does shit on the ground too. 676 33:59 or 7, yeah. 7786 or 7. He's different, bro. He's different. 6 or 7 to the nigga that's different. Okay. No, Deontay 34:08 Wilder and John Jones are not the same. John Jones, no, I know. Part of it is, hey, good thing y'all got them friends from 11. Hey, hey, 34:19 you know what? I see why y'all got so many friends. Holy shit. Y'all think it's nothing. It's not because I think I got, I think the average person 34:27 who can fight is going to get the ass kicked by these people. But I'm just saying at some point, just a large number of people. You really think John Jones will walk up to you and 5 of your closest 34:35 friends just beat the shit out of all y'all at the same time? At least 5 of us. So you, Corey E. Isch, and what's my man, Vern, are out 34:44 and Deontay Wallace walk up and just fuck all 5 of y'all up while y'all just take it. No, no Joe, it's not happening. I don't think that happens. Yeah, it's not happening. 34:53 And you keep going back to De'Lon through the wallet. Or John Jones, John Jones is a different animal. Here's why John Jones is the number higher. John Jones can box and John Jones is also 35:01 He can grapple. He's a grappler. He gets down on the ground too. He's a broken bone jujitsu. Every single person has to be willing to attack 35:09 all at the same time. Someone is getting laid out. But we just talked about strategizing. That's it, that's what we talking about. You gotta strategize against that person. 35:18 A fight breaks out. If this nigga. A fight break out. I give him extra room. That nigga's getting rolled out. We're not lining up like they 1 at a time. If we strategize, 35:26 then we put him in the box the fucking way. And so let's take fucking 10 of y'all. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. Let me ask you a question. Any 35:34 1 of us, let me ask you. Once a nigga get to grappling with Deontay Wilder, what the other 3 35:43 niggas doing? We are out of shape. Why is anybody grappling with that? Yo, dawg, why you not answering my question? My question was clear. If 1 of us 35:51 grabbed Deontay Wilder and get to wrestling with him, what are the other niggas doing in the meantime? Can I ask a question? Can I ask a rebuttal question? Can I ask a rebuttal question? Who 35:59 says it's going to be a grapple? He's 6'7", 220, in shape. None of us are in shape. Right. As soon as you get there, knock, knock. Hold 36:07 on. He has 2 hands. He can't hit, but 2 niggas at 1 time. Now he can kick too. Cool. Yontay Wilder can kick. 36:16 And if he puts his leg up in the air, he loses his balance, now he's really fucked. Right, with 6 of us talking. I hear y'all. If he does that, he's really 36:24 fucked. 1000%. If that nigga leg gets off the ground, it's night night with 4 niggas around you. That's what I'm saying. What are you talking about? 36:32 Okay I'm not saying there's no right or wrong answer you guys. It takes 4 or 5 niggas to be willing for 1 person to take that first hit. 36:40 That's a trap. That's a trap. And everybody else is getting off on Deontay. I don't get for what you're talking about. Somebody take you on for the team, but everybody wants you to do that. 36:49 It took more than 5 of us when y'all started that fight at La Marina with the security. Nah, y'all niggas ran. That's what happened. It took 5. No, that's not what happened. Hey, it took 5. 36:57 Y'all niggas ran. It was me and Burn fighting and the rest of y'all stood back. That's what happened. If all of us would have jumped in, we would have squashed them niggas out. Y'all niggas would have been fighting. How did it end? How did it end? 37:05 Who was all there? Yeah, tell us the story. There's a few of us. Me, him, Corey, a couple of... Not Ish. Huh? Not Ish, man. Ish with an ass. Wait, so you and Verm 37:13 was the only 2 that got a shaky? 37:22 Me and Verne, me and Verne was the only 2 that was fucking, yeah. And what did everybody else do? You just say, get him? I don't know, I don't remember seeing what niggas was doing. You just seen for a while. If anybody would have jumped in, we 37:30 all would have had to up. Holy shit. Yo, nigga said you thought it was Deontay. So hold on. Did the fight start while everybody was there watching? The fight started 37:38 when everyone was there. Everyone was there visibly watching. The fight's paying attention to fucking mama or whatever the fuck was going on. All right. 37:46 I wouldn't care what they paying attention to. Once they see it get shaken, the only 2 people shaking was me and Vern. That's it. They said they didn't 37:54 see it. They said they didn't see it. That's a big rumble, my nigga. It's a big rumble. I'm just letting them on and get their lives off. What happened? Tell the real 38:02 story. That was lie. I wasn't there. I don't know what the fuck happened. Yeah, I'm letting Imani. I've heard this story a bunch of times. I don't know what happened. If I call Byrne right now, I'm telling you. I didn't even know Corey was there. And 38:11 I heard the story a bunch. I didn't know Corey was there. I didn't know Corey was there. Neither did Imani. Holy shit. Holy shit. Corey 38:19 gonna fuck me up. You're playing around with Corey. I'm in worries. Right. I think all of, I think at least 4. How long it lasted for? For a 38:27 little bit. Not long enough for it. You gonna tell him why you was fighting? Not because of me. Don't matter what was fighting. I know I saw 1 of my mans fighting and 38:35 I decided to jump in once I saw him fighting. What started the fight? Tell us. We're entertaining. Tell us what happened. I don't want to tell the story that I heard. He can tell it. I don't want to involve him. 38:43 There was somebody involved in it that I don't want to speak upon because they're not around and all that. But all I know is that someone had a back and forth with the security 38:51 guard. Got it. Vern decided to do something about it. And then once he did something about it, you just- I got put in the fool Nelson. Is that what happened? Who got 38:59 put in the fool Nelson? Joe Budden. I don't remember that. I know you don't you weren't around Cuz that's all fighting I was on the corner fighting. Yeah, I know What 39:09 you talking about? You talking about melodies no, he's my La Maria not melody Yeah, 39:18 no Yeah, I think we have 2 different experiences that night. What happened? Sounds like it. Yeah, it sounds like it. 2 different versions of what happened. 39:26 They were doing shots and you were taking shots. Yeah. They got security now too. Oh man. Oh that sucks. That does suck. 39:35 Alright let me find fucking Kevin Gage so we can try to have our serious conversation. Full Nelson is a hell of a movie we put in. Yeah. Did 39:47 you Tell anybody that this has happened or she if 40:13 you tell anybody that this has happened or she, if you tell anybody that this happens something might happen to you or she did He 40:26 did yeah, yeah Yes, I'll leave that alone Me 40:34 has to truth I mean, I don't know how you know I'm saying oh you don't know how No, yeah, I don't 40:42 know shit go ahead. I said we moved out long. He'll never do that to anybody again That's it 40:50 that's the 2 things I am but then you know, we man I might be shit I don't say too much but I Come I really have 40:59 a little cursors with that situation because people that came before me they was raped and 41:09 they created the space for me to have with my children to where my children know don't nobody never touch you they're not even me I 41:18 had these open conversations with my children. They are equipped. I created a space for them to be able to tell their dad anything. Open and honest with you about any 41:26 situation. Anything. That's right. Kev, you know what? Let me ask you this. How did you summon up the courage? Because I can 41:34 assure you, you're not the first young man boy that's ever had this happen, but a lot of young boys 41:42 will suppress it. I created the space for men to be able to heal. There's so many men that come up to me and hug me and cry in the gym 41:50 and tell me thank you because I created a space and I tell them you was vulnerable then we have built ourselves into machines 41:59 to where we can protect the inner child. That's why I made that song, Protect Children. You're 42:07 not supposed to hurt children. Get something molested inside my mom's home. She ain't believe me when I was young. And 42:15 that's the other crazy part. That is that that there's gonna be a lot of people that's gonna watch this after I made this Oh, yes, I know how much 42:23 trauma that I was holding. I cried for 2 weeks uncontrollable. Were you a teenager at the time? Yeah, that was She's very deep. Let's jump 42:31 to him salute. Yeah. Yes. Yes Take a lot to be able to do. Even if he's put it in a record, I imagine that 42:39 that is tough to be transparent about publicly at any time. Especially as a rapper. 42:48 You know what I'm saying? With that weighty frame. Yeah. To be that vulnerable as a rapper. Yeah the perception that 42:56 black man is rappers have to Carry around with and then to go and and tell your mom or tell a parent and not be believed. 43:04 That's like the shit you see on docs and the TV show. You see it happen a lot, yo. Can we stop joking about that? 43:14 Like I don't want to make it awkward, but You're right. The more I'm hearing and the more I'm just thinking back to certain things and just the more I'm talking to 43:22 people and also thinking back to the people that I know who affected in this way, we gotta stop joking about that. Cause we don't do it with 43:31 the understanding that there are people watching that really went through some shit and they're trying to still figure it out even as adults. So make 43:40 me a little emotional because I just in talking to someone today and them telling me some of the things and they, like when I came up and said about the R. Kelly 43:49 shit and people was like, Oh, why are you saying, cause I'm getting to a point where people are now feeling open enough to tell me about their shit. Cause we have a big platform and they're sharing stories about their 43:57 life. Not knowing that sometimes when we talk about it, it really is a trigger for them. So I'm listening to this man's shit and it's fucking me up. Because it's bringing me back to 44:06 y'all having to talk to me about me walking around for years thinking that some of that shit that happened to me was fly and it wasn't. It wasn't fly 44:14 and it's whack. It's really whack. And I know we don't do it with the intent of really trying to harm each other or say, but we gotta stop joking 44:22 about that shit because black boys go through it in that way and they don't feel confident to be able to talk to, like I appreciate 44:30 when you and Corey used to say that, because I really walked around thinking that that shit was fly, and y'all had to check me out as older men saying, yo, E, that shit is not cool. Like, you were 44:38 fucking mishandled, and I never had the conversation with my mom's dad. Never had the conversation with my sisters. They've heard about it the first time through here, Because I 44:46 never felt comfortable being able to talk about it. So it took some of my brothers to put me on to that, but then yet we still joke about it and we make, we got to 44:54 stop that. Like that shit fucked me up a little bit. I think you're right. I think you're right. I think for me, the humor that 45:03 I draw is my way of, dealing with stuff. Me too. You know, a lot of the horror, a lot of the memories, a lot of things I've had 45:11 to see and experience, you know, but you're right because that, while that might be my way of coping It's 45:19 1 it's not healthy and 2 it's not fair to the millions of people watching who might yeah, you know who might now feel ashamed From what they're experiencing. 45:27 So I give you my word. I won't joke about jokes and sarcasm be our shield Yeah, Especially in the ghetto. That's how we grow up. Like you might've watched your mother get her ass whipped last yesterday 45:36 by your father. You gotta go to school. You still gotta be human. And nobody in the school could ever know that that's what's going on in your household. So we find the jokes and the 45:44 sarcasm and all of that shit as a way of protecting what's really going on. So we got some time. It feels like this all we got. That's what we got. Yeah, true, true, true. Well, 45:54 I don't have a really cool segue out of this, but come on. Yo! Yo, no, 46:03 man! You're an idiot, yo. Come on, yo. Stop, man. No. Come on. Yo, you can't. No, you can't help 46:11 it. You stupid motherfucker. This is why you're the best. That's why you're the best. I'm not going to hold this. That's why you're the best, bro. That was good. That was good. That's why you're the best. Exactly do it. I'm not even trying 46:19 to be funny. You earned it. I'm not trying to be funny. You earned it. You earned it. I'm not trying to be funny. That's why you make the money, bro. Don't say that, but I 46:27 have an unseriousness about me that needs to change. Nah, but sometimes I won't say it be necessary, but it 46:35 be timely. You know what I'm saying? Oh, for the broadcast, not in real life. You a dick in real life. Oh yeah, I'm talking about broadcast. Yeah, yeah, 46:44 broadcast, yeah, it's genius. Yeah. I think I'm pretty unserious in real life too. But that's my family, yo. When my 46:52 grandfather was dying, like we made jokes going to pick out the casket. Like, yeah. And it was him. And 47:01 it was him. But that's what I understand. And I didn't understand that back then. Actually when they was going to pick out my grandfather's casket, I was like, I'm not going. And then my mom 47:09 pulled me to the side and said, yo, do you trust me? I said, yes. She said, then come. I know how you think you're gonna feel, but this 1 of your last moments you could 47:17 possibly have with your grandfather, I don't want you to live and ever regret that you were able to come and dig me up. And I'm waiting, we had a blast in 47:25 there, bigger than I was, hey, look at this shit, we're gonna dump you in, nigga, $17. Like, mad shit, so, yeah. And now me and my dad still make dumb cona. That's a moment 47:34 that you got now. Oh yeah, no, I love that. I love that. It's sick. It's not. It's not. No, but that's how you're in a family. Well from my viewpoint, 47:42 it was sick. We were taught to view death in a certain way. Yeah. Right? So, if 47:50 you are, cause some people look at it like a celebration we're gonna celebrate the person's life Yeah, so now if a motherfucker was mad silly and was always 47:58 the life of the party Yeah, we crack in here You know this dumbass maybe that's not a nigga fell over the thing got up drunk ha ha ha kee kee kee Yo, if he was here right 48:06 now, he'd be cracking on them ugly ass shoes. You know what I'm saying? And you just look at it like that. And so you don't necessarily embrace the sadness of the person not 48:14 being here. You enjoy the fact that they were here and you share time with them Yeah, but it's 1 thing how you process your grief with your family and that might be the norm for y'all But then 48:22 to do it in front of everybody else and they might not look at it like it's normal I'm saying so it's a different like how we doing our inner circles is because 48:30 my family's like that we crack jokes we talk shit at the funeral we say you know I'm saying but he's it comes after the intense green 48:39 shit like that yeah You start judging people with the repass? Yeah, 48:47 you get with that cousin, you want that cousin? Yeah, you know, yo. You see who Sharon brought to the repass? Yeah, I see that dumbass nigga. Yo, who made those, yo, you see the repass? I hate to leave in the middle of a good molestation 48:55 talk, but I gotta. Yo, bro. No, it's a good talk, I'm saying, I'm serious. Like, I don't want it to look like, I don't want the audience think I'm leaving because I'm like. Get out, Mark. What? Get 49:04 out. You did get a little teary eyed. Go ahead man, you can leave early. Go ahead, you don't get no mac and cheese after the repass anyway, get out. It's a fact. Love 49:12 y'all. Thank you for your contribution man. Thank you, appreciate you. Peace Mark. Brother Mark. Yo Kirsten makes more fuckers out in the fish. Listen while Mark 49:20 is leaving, I'm gonna take this time to clear up some misconceptions that you guys got going on out there. For 1, Ice left the 49:28 last Patreon because it was his daughter's birthday. Damn right. Silly. What's the misconception? Oh, that he couldn't sit there. He could get in the ass. Come 49:36 on now. He could get in the ass. You know what they're saying now. They're saying, I don't know. I don't know why they said that. You know what they're saying now. They 49:45 don't know Ice. They say they couldn't be around. They're saying Ice had to get out of there. But no, ice was leaving for something else. It's my baby 49:53 birthday man. Fuck that. That's right. Happy birthday I was in birthday party shots everybody that came that's dope Tell us how was it? Yeah both together. Oh, 50:01 yeah, it was amazing I'm not Absolutely amazing. Everything went off the way you would hope it went off. Nice. 50:09 Like everybody got along, there was no issues whatsoever. Everything was great. That's good. I Couldn't have asked for anything better. It's fine awesome Was 50:20 there other misconceptions was there other misconceptions oh No, ah just that 1 I got no more 50:29 Yeah, I seen them put the video up when I was standing over there by the kitchen. You're I scared he looking straight ahead He know but he better not look over there. I was like Okay 50:40 They don't know I said I said I don't know ice Alright, I got a sage steel clip for you guys sage 50:51 still you know yeah you see esp and I was getting political world it's the illegal part and the fact that they choose 50:59 to ignore those facts but then spew silly opinions like Billy Eilish which was comical what she said this is why I've been dribbled 51:07 shut up and sing because you're super talented but you don't know what you're talking about. Oh my God. What? Sage is on that type of thing? That's a black 51:15 woman? She's been on that type of time forever. Is she black? Yeah. She's black, married to a white man, and 51:24 her ex-husband is a white man. She's had that viewer for a while. She said stupid shit before. It's not new. 51:33 She's 1 of them. She's like the Jason Whitlock. I told you, I've argued this week with a couple motherfuckers that be it yo y'all motherfuckers is up there calling 51:41 y'all motherfuckers won't tell the truth y'all defending this motherfucker talk about the gentleman that passed away, Kevin, and the lady Renee, like they've 51:49 been killing us and I'm like, yo bro, what are we talking about? She said who was illegal? No, she's responding to Billie Eilish's 51:57 comments of no one's illegal on stolen land and she's telling her to like shut up and sing. I think I'm gonna keep it a buck with you. Anybody 52:06 that got a problem with nobody's illegal on stolen land, I don't even wanna talk to you. You showed me everything I need to know about you. If that 52:14 phrase right there could bother you, knowing what we know about this country, I'm all the way good on you, bitch. But that's the part. I'm all the way good. 52:22 Depending on what's, and this is what I'm starting to see. Depending on where you went to school, bro, it dictates what you were taught. A lot 52:30 of people were not taught real American history. A lot of people were not taught real American history. A lot of people were not taught these things. And so they really believe like, yo, 52:38 the white man built this country with his bare hands. Sage know better. I don't give a fuck where she went to school. She know that this is 52:46 some stolen land. I don't, bro, I don't know if they view it like that. I'm dead ass. I don't care about what she views. These motherfuckers are crazy, bro. A lot of these motherfuckers 52:54 are, like you're saying, like, remember the movie The Waterboy? Yeah. Remember how his whole perception of the world was what his mother told him. Yeah. And that's all he knew. He treated 53:03 that as fact. Remember, a lot of these motherfuckers. Anything was the devil. His mother used to be like, that's the devil. Remember Adam Sandler? Like, that's the devil. Sex is the devil. Helping people 53:11 is the devil, because his mother wanted to keep him close. Yo, these people, we are shaped by our environments, our parents, our church, our whatever. Everybody don't necessarily 53:19 venture out to get their own information based on the world, bro. We bail her out from some cooning. No, I don't. 53:27 I think she sounds like a fucking idiot. No, she's cooning. She's cooning. I think she sounds like an idiot. She's cooning. I think the white people that say it sound like idiots But when you start schooling 53:35 some of these motherfuckers, you know A lot of these people don't know some of this stuff exists. Like I was putting it's a documentary called Slavery 53:45 by another name right, that's a real documentary called Slavery by Another Name. And black people that I had watched, we watched it like, 53:53 maybe like my freshman year of college or some shit. And bro, when you watch the documentary, all of the information that we think we know, And again, I think I'm well 54:01 abreast of the shit bro. This shit'll rock your fucking head I remember when the 13 came out. Yeah, that shit was teaching my fuck. Slay by another name is way deeper Deeper 54:11 than that bro, and it's 1 of the way that shit applies today still it's like oh That's the 1 that you put us on to for me is 54:19 someone HP I can't something. Oh Something the brutes the oh, yes the brutes the brutes. That was a series. That 54:27 was a series That shit was crazy. You watch that enough. Come on, man, bro, bro So again, even us we might think we well informed but 54:35 when you start going back to the past shit of how these things came to be, most of us are not really well-informed, bro. So she 54:44 might only fuck with white dudes. Nigga, Candace Owens smart as shit. Niggas can feel what they wanna feel about Candace Owens. She smart. 54:53 My nigga, she was standing on some real, real, real over their shit for a good amount of time. Nobody's gonna question her intelligence. 55:02 You just learn what you've learned. That ain't maintenance or everything that there is to learn. You only know these things and that's what you know. Like until you 55:10 take it upon yourself and be deliberate and putting new information in your brain, you're going to rock with what you rock with. To your point, look at how we were, us, 55:18 look at how we were taught Thanksgiving. Just something as simple as Thanksgiving. Columbus Day. Columbus Day. Look at how we were taught those things, and then as you grow older, and you were, they told 55:27 us to fucking pilgrims in the Indian sat down at the table and broke bread, and that was the first Thanksgiving. And that's why we do it, and all of this shit. You don't know the real history 55:35 of this. Like yo, they watch the story down and tell you whatever the fuck they want you to believe. And if there's, you never hear the loser side of the story. Ever. So 55:43 the winner tell you this and this is a fact now. True or false, it's now fact. Until there's some other information. And I think about, 55:51 to Ice's point, think about what age we really started to accept. Oh, now that was some bullshit. That was some bullshit. I probably was in my 30s. Me 55:59 too. I probably was in my 30s when I started saying, Thanksgiving suck my dick. You know what I'm saying? But in my 20s and all, you like, yeah, yeah, yeah. How many times they told it? Because Columbus 56:07 discovered America. How you discovered? 1492, Columbus discovered America. The real story of Pocahontas itself. They took that action, it's a fucked up 56:16 story, and they went and turned that into a fairy tale. For little girls to want to motherfucking get behind and watch and promote. Yeah, so 56:24 it's fucked up. Like all of this shit bro. Somehow Sage still saying this to Billie Eilish. That's crazy. For me is 56:32 a lot for me. For us. No, but let me finish. Somehow it's more bothersome 56:41 to me than when the white people did it to LeBron or when the white people do it to... First off, it says still you black, so you cooning. Yeah. 56:49 Got it, and you down with that, you cooning for them. You're doing their work, cool. You know how hard it is to get a white ally? Like, 56:59 so- Right, and now we get 1, and you do that. So now you get 1 and get up there and say something. And then here come the first black coons. They're like, ah, shut up and sing, bitch. Just fucking 57:08 ass up. That's crazy to me. That is insanity, bro. Like I said, anybody that, again, I'm going back to 57:16 Billie Eilish's statement. Because when she said it, I was in the house like, oh, that's a bar. Like, it's direct, it's short, but there's 57:25 no argument to that. Bro. And if you find something wrong with that, Tell me everything I need to know after I just heard 57:33 some shit. I think it was this morning Maybe yesterday and they had a similar situation But they had a panel and a white lady called 57:41 in and a lady was from Hawaii Okay, like some PhD lady sharp is it? Sharp to from Hawaii and she said yo 57:50 y'all saying all this stuff about this is America stolen. And she was like, man, this is not white people's America. Y'all stole Hawaii, 57:58 y'all stole Alaska, y'all stole Mexico and turned that shit into Texas and all them other states down there. Y'all stole all of this shit. So 58:06 this, and I started thinking about Greenland, right? In 50 years, if we go take Greenland, in 50 years, 80 years, White 58:15 people will say, yo, this is ours and we built this. The only difference in that is a little bit different from real quick. He has a song called Don't Let This Become Hawaii, 58:23 essentially. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. And the difference with that is we also. Look up some translations. I've learned that. He always stand on business. Who's 58:31 that? Bad Bunny. He had a great speech. His speech was amazing. Bro, he's a man of the people. Right. He's a man. He hasn't been compromised. He's a man of the people I don't need 58:40 y'all could go get money where the people are You know I'm saying like come here No, they're gonna come here. I'm just saying, wherever I go, 58:48 I could go to Manhattan right now and stop traffic. You know what I'm saying? I'm a man of the people and you gotta respect that. I don't give a fuck what race you are. You gotta respect 58:56 a man of the people, a woman of the people, that shit is fire. And somebody that gets to that height and still stays of the people, because usually you could be, you for the people at 59:04 the start. He's not tall. Career height. He's not tall. You size them up. 59:13 See out. Why you keep trying to make me gay this episode? And we started with like the rape shit. This episode, right? Yo, oh my God. Why you keep, I'm cool 59:21 with it normally, but why you keep trying to do that on our rape episode? What you talking about, yo? This is not a rape episode. It's not a nothing episode. 59:29 I'm not gonna beat this, man. What's wrong with you, Aki? Yeah, Stop paying me like that on this episode. I paid you like that. Who bought that 59:37 art set to the class? You nigga, fuck is you talking about? This guy is crazy. I'm glad that shit didn't, well, I can't say that. I'm 59:45 glad that didn't really grow the legs that it could have. What, you playing around, Dodo? I'm not playing around like that, being stupid. I'm not trying to be funny. Do 59:53 they still be in your DMs trying to take you shopping? I'm not in my DMs, because I couldn't know what's going on in my DMs. The request side, the normal side, not at 1:00:01 all. Not at all, there's nothing, nobody in there is saying. I was arguing with the 2 niggas this weekend. I said, I gotta get like you, because I know you won't be in there reading that shit. 1:00:10 You're arguing with somebody in your DMs? They come to me because they know I think I'm smart. I was cursing them the fuck out. Eventually you do learn that it's not worth it. They were, the 1:00:18 juice ain't worth it. Once someone fucking starts screen capping your shit and moving around, you be like, oh. That shit, that shit only lasts a couple hours. Or they respond to what 1:00:26 you're saying and tagging. You know, you get on with 2 specific people? Yeah, cause what'll happen is niggas, if you start having a conversation, 1:00:34 like I don't mind having a conversation. Me either. We can share, but once it turns into the argument, I block them. But I heard it. It's a good name. Yeah, 1:00:43 word. I appreciate that. No, we start having a conversation about, you will have a conversation with anybody. Yeah, just about the 1:00:51 politics shit and all of that. With a caterpillar. Just anybody. Just do what we've done. With the spider on Charlotte's Web. Yeah, like. That nigga open his, 1:00:59 yeah, you don't give a fuck. His middle name. You gotta press accept, nigga. So that means you read it. I'm gonna accept this. Let him know what 1:01:07 I think. Depending on where the conversation goes. I respect that. His middle name should be networked. A lot of people who get positioned don't do that, though. They don't 1:01:15 go and respond. They don't run. They're not in the game. I'm not in your position, I don't have as many followers as you are. So move like a star. Okay, you are a fucking rock star. You're a rock star. Maybe I'm learning. 1:01:23 You're a rock star. Maybe you are a rock star. Stop that shit. My finances don't say rock star. Get that humble shit out of here. What's your finances say? Please, you own a Peloton. 1:01:31 Pion. Oh, now we lying. You got a Peloton, man. Knock it off. Listen, when I read the wealth slides, niggas got quiet. 1:01:40 Niggas got mad. When they called y'all wealthy, niggas mad. They cursed me out. You stuck stupid ass nigga, what the fuck world, 300, 000 ain't rich you bitch. I'm 1:01:48 like, oh, my bad, fam. They in the comments. On the actual Joe Button page, this stupid motherfucker at you. 300, 000, you 1:01:56 bitch. I'm like, all right, fam, I don't want no smoke. Not there? Oh, okay, okay. Not today. You got your Twitter back? We 1:02:05 never tried When I got my new phone I don't remember you know the password all 1:02:13 that shit so Or what shit? That's Like what account I set it up with, all that shit, like all of that stuff. You don't remember the Android don't have like 1:02:21 passwords where they keep all the shit? Cause I set Twitter up, I just never got onto it. When y'all used to be on Twitter, Toy like, yo you gotta try 1:02:29 Twitter, and I'm- Oh, you don't remember the email? I never set none of it in. He don't know what email? Probably some email I ain't never used. So he can't reset it. Search it, put Twitter 1:02:37 in it. Shit might be on a hotmail some fucking way. How many emails you have attached to your phone? Somebody probably is stealing your identity speaking to girls. Word. Word 1:02:46 ass crazy. Yo, you see what you gotta do? You see what you do? And then when I start lighting your ass up, don't say no. 1:02:54 I'm not talking about you. Yo, Somebody probably has stolen your identity. Oh, getting it off. 1:03:03 Just getting feet pics. With blue eyes, right? Different set of eyes, everything. Long hair. Holy shit. Oh Yo, 1:03:12 did you see oh I man, was it tell Taylor Sheridan his name is yeah He got another 1 Marshall. Oh, yeah, yes I 1:03:21 started living if I should look at a man. Yeah Pretty good. We talked about the last episode of land me Watch 1:03:29 it on episode 3 All together Also 1:03:40 you want it yeah, you Like when he told Shorty off. Stop. Okay, enough. That's enough. No, no. He's seen that 1:03:48 so far. I didn't see it, nigga. And there's somebody out there listening that is probably gonna watch it. Landman? They probably season 1. There's only 3 seasons in? 1:03:57 2. Yeah, we don't give a fuck about that. Wait, this shit that's on is the second season, my nigga. Fuck up. Second season. Oh my God. And 1:04:05 I started Mind of a Murderer. Yeah, I seen the first episode. I watched, I think it's 3 out now. What the hell is Mind of a Murderer? The shit we was talking about, the curly head 1:04:13 dude from, Memories. Memory of a Murderer. Memories, Something like that. I don't know the fucking name of the show. It's a real show. Mind of a Murderer. That's what I'm asking. 1:04:21 Oh, 0, nah, nah. You wouldn't know. I don't be knowing that memory of the. I'm fucking with that shit. All right, yeah. That shit is all right. You know why I was mad? 1:04:29 Cause I caught it, it must've premiered the day before I caught it. Nigga, I'm sitting by the screen refreshing, when does this shit come out? But 1:04:37 it's out now. I hate catching something right as it come out. I think it's all 1, I think it's all 3. 3, yes. I believe it's all 1. Because they premiered with 2. Right, They dropped 2. 1:04:46 I might have sold 1 or 2 then. I know I sold 1. They premiered with 2 of them. So Memory of a Killer. It is a real good show. Fox called 1. That shit. Yeah, they got 1. That studio 1:04:54 shit. It took me a while. That shit is good. I told you. That shit is good. I told you. The studio. Seth Rogen shit. That shit is good. It's a 1:05:03 comedy, right? Did you see the Golden Globes episode? No, I don't think it's. This was the end. Is this the first season? I got like 2 seasons. Only 1 season. 1:05:11 Okay, got it. It's a comedy, right? Yes. It's almost curbish sort of kinda, but it's like movie industry. It's not direct comedy, it's 1:05:20 curbish. Curbish, like it's sarcastic. You can't say nothing, it's curbish. Some of them episodes are curbish. Really? Yes. 1:05:28 I'll watch that then. Yeah, I'll check it out. Somebody told me watch Found, The Sansom show, Found is pretty good. They canceled it though. That's 1:05:36 the only reason why I don't like, like you get invested in these shows, they announced this cancellation. It was a good season though. It was good. Somebody told me watch Found. But now because it 1:05:44 don't end, You kind of like on the hook. Like what the fuck happened? And I think HBO is industry. I'm gonna start watching. It's 1:05:52 boring me and I'm about to watch it. I wanna watch that. It look good. I ain't started yet. They need 1, they haven't had 1 in a while. Showed you what I'm saying, I can't watch that 1. They need HBO, they need 1. They coming 1:06:00 with some shit. Yeah? I like Gilded Age. Everybody in here might not like it, but I like it. I don't like it. I like that shit. What is Gilded Age? This 1:06:09 is Sean HBO. It talks, it's so crazy because it talks about, it's like based in like early 1900s America. Oh, 1:06:17 you got it. In New York. So it's like the Vanderbilt's, the Carnegie's, the Rockefellers and all of them, and how society is welcoming or not welcoming. And 1:06:26 it really just translates, I mean, transcends to the classism structures of today. I relate all that shit to the same. See, that 1:06:34 reminds me of on National Geographic, the inventors, it's about all those families and their contribution. Yeah, so the 1:06:42 1 dude, cause Edison, during the show, electricity has just been invented. Okay. During, during, cause they on season 1:06:50 3, I think. Okay. Or 4. But I'm on season, I'm on season 3. Edison invented electricity and they're showing how this 1 kid, he was a 1:06:58 servant for 1 of the families. He invented the alarm clock and they sold the alarm clock to Westing for like $600 1:07:06 grand. So now the kid ain't a servant no more. He's been a servant. He don't even know how to embrace the new money and enter into society. 1:07:14 He wanted to stay a servant. Of course, of course. They said, yo, he got $300. He never has 1:07:23 to work again in his life with 300 grand. Like right now he gonna have his own servants, his own house, his own Butler and all of that shit. Is 1:07:31 it based on fact at all or loosely? A lot of the main family is based on the Vanderbilt's. Got it. The main family is based on the Vanderbilt's. They 1:07:40 slowly like they they mentioned the Rockefellers. They mentioned some of the other families like and their new money Like they be shunning them niggas like they won't let them in they clubs even if they got 1:07:48 money Your lineage you got to be able to say yo and then they trim they also show the black side Felicia Rashad is old black money 1:07:57 and she was dissing this girl's dad who was a pharmacist and Brooklyn had some servants of his own. She said, yo, I could trace my lineage back 100 1:08:05 years. And that's how they judge you. Like 1 bitch was like, yo, you can't do this to me. My great uncle signed a declaration of independence. But it's all 1:08:13 classism. It don't really be about money. It's white people treating white people like dog shit. The proper definition of new money, because I know new age, we've changed it 1:08:21 to new money. But like, because I'm shocked to hear them even say that back then, so that must mean, nigga, our money 1:08:29 is hundreds of years old. Yeah, the true generation of wealth. Nigga, she said my uncle signed the Declaration of Independence. You 1:08:37 can't talk to me like this. That ain't about money at that point. Yeah. It's not about money. It's not about money. And so when you start getting into these levels of societies. We ain't talking 1:08:45 money. We all could have money. Lineage. Bloodline. Even the new Game of Thrones that just came out, they got a prequel. Oh, Peter's Palace. Peter's 1:08:55 Principle. Welcome to Peter's Kingdom. Wayman's Castle. Yo, on that, it really just is the same shit. It's 1:09:03 levels and statuses and all of that shit. It's a dude, he's a knight, and he got knighted by some middle-class brum 1:09:12 nigga that the higher-ups look at you like, shoefly, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's all just carried over. Classism is running the shit. 1:09:20 Don't Netflix have a new Jason Bateman something coming? Oh, do they? Do they? Look it up. Check that 1 out. I know 1:09:29 FX got a new 1 called the beauty. Oh, I started that. It starts off weird as fuck. OK. Because I always say when you wouldn't get surgery 1:09:37 or something. You get beautiful from surgery. So what happens is it shows like desperate models, actors, whatever, like undesired. Like people just, 1:09:46 it's a lot of incels, like 1 of these niggas, they told you, you're an incel. And you take this treatment and you 1:09:54 become beautiful. And now you achieve all you wanted in life. Like y'all, you rise to Fame and stardom and all of that shit. That's 1:10:02 why you took the zap yo. You're down the fuck. Yeah down the fuck st Louis DTF st. Louis a name of a show Jason Bateman Yeah, 1:10:10 I'm down to it was it down to fuck DTF st. Louis DTF down the fuck st. Louis You 1:10:22 were never DTF, they stole your identity on Twitter. That's somebody told you. That's somebody else. You're so cool, nigga. That's that mitch. That's 1:10:30 that Mitch. That's that Mitch. But nah, and then in doing so, like you last for 2 years, after 2 years you die. But it'd be like a violent, 1:10:39 like almost like explosion type death. And it's just some government conspiracy shit trickled in there too, but- Yo, Be careful. I watched a couple of these. I think your wallet is stuck 1:10:47 to your phone. Don't lose nothing. It is. It is stuck to my phone. Why you boot that up? Cause he wants to clown it. That's for sure. Wait, what is that? 1:10:55 That's my code. It's a MagSafe wallet. Magic Stick Wallet? MagSafe Wallet. That's all. Keep my wallet. Seems safe. It is safe. 1:11:04 It's not a freeze, yo. It's very safe. I love you, yo. I'm sorry, Balenci don't make that V. It's my bad. Sorry. What about YSL? 1:11:12 I don't think they do either. I don't think they do either. If you lose a phone, it's over, right? He'll put your wallet in your pocket like a nigga 1:11:20 with a penis, man. Why this nigga? This nigga gotta just do something to let you put in your backpack or something. 1:11:28 Yeah, nigga, be a man, nigga. He's freezing low. Oh, my lord. Okay. How many? Yo, why you won't let 1:11:36 niggas enjoy the pleasures of their life yo, that's not bad They'll throw that shit in the river yo. It's not bad He 1:11:46 the first nigga I hope loses wallet. Just keep my card in my ID. That's all I need. Everything else is on the phone anyway. On my other cards. And should you use the wallet? I know you don't wear 1:11:54 the sunglasses. Do you use the wallet that he gave you? Yeah, what's up with you? I like your jokes. Did you? Listen up. Because you used to have a crazy 1:12:02 wallet. I set him on the right path. You don't use it? Oh, okay that's good. All right, good. Oh, he definitely uses it. Let me see, let me see. 1:12:11 Good. Is that what you have to do? He definitely, no he wanted to, but he used it. What you have to do? What you have to do? I don't know. See, he think anything is a joke. All I said was 1:12:19 he used it. You got it with you now. He think I'm, hey, come on. I can't even. You think I can't just say no? Why niggas can't ask you questions? They could. You're asking the man if he utilized 1:12:27 a gift or some shit. I don't think that. I don't think that at all. This nigga's crazy. You don't accept gifts. Not particularly. Not at all. All right, so we can 1:12:35 come up with conclusions. Yeah, for sure. I think that's honorable. We should've all got you something. Unless ASAP Rocky gave it to you. Not using gifts. ASAP Rocky 1:12:43 gave me a gift. ASAP Rocky gave it to you, probably. Take it. He was a huge Ray-Ban fan then. I didn't say 1 thing. 1:12:51 What color did you got? A$AP. Now you're lying. Now you're lying. Now you're lying. A$AP, you got the yellow. Now you're lying. 1:12:59 Let's take a picture of the A$AP. You know what I'm saying? You talking about A$AP? That's what I did. I'm a huge Ray-Ban fan. Ask them. That's what I did. Ask them. Me? 1:13:08 I love Ray-Bans. I'm like, yo, relax. That's what I do. Oh shit. Y'all playing. That's what I did. You can't get too excited, man. Nah, you gotta just 1:13:16 play cool. My bad, boy. You act like you been here before. Crazy. Hey, he's sad. This is nuts. This nigga's a nutcase. He's 1:13:24 sad, but it's fun. Nah, he was talking about how he lighten his ass up too. Well, what'd he do? When he came up here, he was talking about the 1:13:33 fashion people and all that. We was talking about- Yeah, I see them like, bro. I mean, people have been writing me. Yeah, freeze. Nah, I'm just saying, we 1:13:41 was talking about how these fucked up this country, and their way of thinking. Did y'all see what they did in Florida now? They went and made 1:13:49 the driver's license test English only. Wait. This nigga's just petty, yo. Yo, your word. Yeah. 1:13:57 Bro, this nigga's just crazy. Yo, yo, niggas is not going nowhere, yo. Nigga, like, you can't get niggas out of here. Like, we here already, like. Oh, 1:14:05 man. Yo, that shit is. Wow. Yo, think about that, Dero. It's fucked up. Yo, that is horrible, my nigga. That is 1:14:14 some ballsy shit. Like, yo. Red light. Green light. Green light. Yo, stop. Bendy, Bendy. Roll. Yo, 1:14:22 this is... Yo, man. See what you're doing? 1:14:31 Yo Betty Betty That's far that is fucked up money talking about and in Florida in 1:14:39 Florida by nigga What? Man, it's in Florida Like 1:14:48 English might not be their first language. That's crazy. I'm so phony. They gonna fuck Home Depot up, they take them instructions 1:14:57 off them tools. Yo, aight, see? See? See? Nope. Now I'm not rolling. 1:15:05 No, don't lean this way. Now you're being fucked up. No, you're my niggas. Yo, leave my people alone, yo. I'm not leaving my people alone too. We know. You're talking to them. 1:15:14 In a different way though. You need a word. What you mean? That's how you keep friends, right? Yeah, I had some of my, some niggas done work for me for, my oldest 1:15:22 workers, 15, 16 years. What you talking about, nigga? What you mean, man? He think that was like, he think that was good, like, 1:15:30 we crying jokes. I paid them, like I played them. Nah, bro, we crying jokes, but dog, that's crazy if they start fucking up the languages on all the 1:15:38 stuff. Nothing they can, yo, you are unimpotent. Yeah, man, yo, that shit, 1:15:46 Y'all too? What? He over like, I don't stand with him on most of his opinions. Yo, Cory might be rocking with ICE. No, 1:15:55 Cory's not rocking with ICE. I would hope not. Cory's not rocking with ICE. ICE. Say, 1:16:04 speak English. You're saying learn English. I get it. The Population of France wouldn't be 30% something 1:16:13 else So this country was discovered by Spanish speakers. Yeah, true. How 1:16:21 about it? How about it? Confusing. Yo, this shit is nuts, bro. Yo, Korn was on a Mayflower. Wildin' 1:16:30 too. The Mayflower. Korn is on a Mayflower. You mean as fuck, bro. This nigga's evil. Y'all 1:16:38 the ones that keep talking to him. Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying that to him. Y'all keep talking to him. That nigga's 1:16:46 crazy. Exterminate the brutes. Exterminate the brutes. They're all the brutes. All of them. All of them. That show 1:16:54 was sick. You know what the crazy part be? They was the real brutes. Again, the winner tells the story. And they frame it in a way 1:17:02 in which other people become the savages. Like when they start saying, throwing them words around, savages, rapists, all... 1:17:10 Illegals. Yeah, it just make you not give a fuck about their humanity no more. You don't look at them as human. Anybody care that they removed 21 Savage's streams 1:17:18 from his last album? No. I thought you were gonna be shook of it. 21 Savage's streams? How many? Did that just say anything? 1:17:26 I just don't care about most of those stories. Okay. It ain't that I'd be scared to talk about it, but I don't have nothing to say about the stuff. Why 1:17:34 did they remove it? See to me I don't care because it don't affect the music. I don't understand. I don't care. Yeah they removed streams 1:17:42 on Spotify, they did the whole removing the fake streams so he lost streams, bot streams. So the streams went from whatever 1:17:51 they was to whatever it is. Was it a lot? I mean, it's always a lot. It always was. But I mean, when they removed it, I still thought he had a lot of streams. 1:17:59 So I mean, I don't care. Niggas buying, niggas playing tricks. I have no idea. I was asking, I was asking. Yeah, I don't know. I 1:18:07 mean, I wouldn't, again, if my first week number reports back as X and I get the number 1, number 2 album in 1:18:15 the country or whatever, whatever, and then you go a month later, or however many weeks later, now remove streams. I don't give a fuck. I got the 1:18:23 stat that I needed to get at the moment. That's what I got the streams for. You know, so we look at our projections and we say, okay, we at this. We wanna be here, 1:18:32 or we look at what else is next. Okay, we need to get this to beat it. Larry, let's hit the button. Yeah, this is the conversation you see them talking about. They was saying, as an artist- 25 million 1:18:40 streams is what they- Okay. I don't think that's a lot. But I was about to say, is that as an artist what you really want? You just shooting for the number 1 album in the country 1:18:48 today that's the stat I think that's crazy bro it changes your business like because when we talked about the Bruno Mars shit 1:18:56 versus the who was we just talking about Bruno Mars versus somebody jay kohl jay 1:19:05 kohl oh right right Bruno Mars sold 6.5 million albums So if I sold 234 my first week or 280 my first week and 1:19:13 I sold 6.5 million albums, I'll take the slow burn steak that fall off the bone. You know the problem? A lot of people don't know about the 6.5 million albums. You 1:19:21 taught that first week sales number. You taught the number 1 album on billboard. That's a highlight for somebody. What the album sold over the career, people 1:19:30 don't really know that number unless you go look. But when your album. Your team is talking to people during week 1, debut week of the album. So 1:19:38 you want your people to be able to say, we have the number 1 album and yada yada yada. And then you can get on Kimmel. And then you can get advertising 1:19:46 money. And that ain't just for albums. They do that shit with movies, with anything else. You see a movie come out, this is the number 1 movie in America. It's the number 1 this. You see 1:19:54 artists do it with, I say all the time, with the Apple music shit. People love to post that my album is number 1 on Apple music right now. But it's 2, 1:20:02 17 in the morning. Check back at 6. Your album not there. But if you sold 6.5 million albums, just using this example, what 1:20:10 would you prefer? You would prefer to be number 1 for a week and hit whatever metric it is for that month, or what I want the 6.5 million 1:20:19 albums after the course of 3 years and you look up, which 1 has generated more revenue, which now Kimmel calling me. Some people don't gotta call Kimmel, 1:20:27 they calling me after my 6.5 million albums. Kimmel might not call me at that point. Of course we prefer the latter. You're absolutely right. The problem with that 1:20:35 is the field is not doing the latter. No. So what applies to the field is first week, who got number 1:20:43 1. Everybody ain't going to get to 5. And to your point, when I go on Kimmel, it's not however many months later. Shut up, 1:20:51 Joe. You said what? When I 1:21:06 go on Kimmel, when I go on Kimmel, When I go on Kimmel, it's usually when my album just dropped. When a lot of these people are doing Kimmel, it's part of the rollout for the first week. So 1:21:15 Again, there's so much emphasis and weight on your first week. We don't really get them from... Yeah, the music business is fucked. That shit don't even make no sense 1:21:23 to me. Let this shit matters no more, yo. Just figure out what works best for you. It definitely works. It does work. Figure out what works best for you. But they're doing a lot of... 6.5, I made 1:21:31 it, nigga. They're doing a lot of shit when it comes to these boxers. They in the show. You know what I'm saying? But 6.5 don't mean shit to me if I don't 1:21:39 own enough of the actual product that's getting sold. For me to get the 6.5 million albums sold, I am packing 1:21:48 out some stadiums, arenas, something. So if I don't own something, I'm still making millions of dollars 1:21:56 on tour. If I could sell 6.5 million albums, bro, it's 20, 000, 30, 000 people that are willing to come to see me in RV 1:22:04 City around the country. So I mean, even if you don't own your masters and if I sold 6.5 million albums to your point, now 1:22:12 it's time to go in there and talk about some things. Yeah, that's a fact. Then you can just go, Once you get the millions from the arena, you go to the casino. 1:22:21 I don't want him to, you gotta, to my point, big my point up. Stop. No, that makes sense, right? Come on, Freeze. When I sell 1:22:29 that many albums, nigga, We gotta talk about some shit. No free free. You have the bot connect. No You don't know 1:22:37 what's the box. I'm truth. Yo, stop doing that funny thing with your mouth. Did you do when you're lying? I don't know You got 1:22:45 a bot connect or you could call somebody that has the bot connect you a bot nigga You call somebody that got the bot connect. I don't think I could yes you could Talk 1:22:54 to him on there already you know spoke to him 1 We can keep going oh shit, I forgot about that. I don't know nobody off 1:23:02 the top of my head. That's true, that's peace. That's a bot connect. That's peace. I know you talking about these bitches. Who, tell me. Nah, 1:23:10 I ain't gonna say nobody. Is somebody doing bots? You gotta blimp it out. You play if you want. Yeah, but they like the boss of the bots or just somebody 1:23:18 playing the game? The boss. And I spoke to my hair. Yeah, let's move on. I don't know what you talking about. Let's move on right here. Yeah. All right. If everybody had the 1:23:26 bot hookup, why everybody ain't botting? Because everybody don't have it. Imani, if you could bot, would you bot? Yeah. Oh shit. Man, 1:23:35 honest. Man, honest. In regards to what? Today music, yes. As far as content and stuff like that, no. 1:23:44 Shit. There's a reason. Explain it. Give me a second. Because music, I don't believe that there's anything genuine happen in that regard and I 1:23:52 just think niggas are just trying to get what they get out there in this period. So fuck it. I'll run the numbers up and help it influence some other shit. With content, I really want to 1:24:01 see the genuine, where my organic fan base is starting. Yes. That's peace. That organic shit is, go ahead. Do the GMO. 1:24:10 What did you say? Does the GMO cover some money? I was about to say that organic shit is out the window. Niggas is inorganic in it 1:24:18 up. Hey, On the content side, if I run these numbers up and then I get a call and get some business with Netflix. But you know that's not, I 1:24:26 mean I know that that's true, but as far as long term that doesn't really help because you can go ahead and and botch your shit you can botch your shit up on YouTube right 1:24:34 and give the impression that your shit is more fly than what it is it's still not gonna transfer the people wanting to subscribe and actually buying to the product. Price! 1:24:43 Are you crazy? They not stupid? I'm just saying if I could buy, I'm not saying that. You're not fooling us. If I could bide it up, and it don't gotta be prize 1:24:51 picks, it could be prize pennies, and I'm generating revenue based on whatever the bot is doing. But you're not generating it. But you're not doing it. 1:24:59 You're not doing it. You can't generate revenue based on the box. No, you not. I'm asking on Spotify. On Spotify you can. Not on YouTube. On Spotify you can. 1:25:08 That's why I said in music, I wouldn't have a problem with doing that. In content creation, to me, nah, it doesn't make sense to do that. The look looks what it looks like, but you 1:25:16 can generate. It's for the look. It's like. Because you can buy with followers and get ads based on how many followers you got. Then they check 1:25:24 that. They change that now though. They engage with the seed. That was the engagement and impressions and all that shit. It's different. Before it used to just be that follower number and people was doing that. 1:25:32 Now, they don't give a fuck about your follower number. It's, yo, what engagement are you getting? What percentage of your following were actually buying to this shit? How many people are liking? 1:25:40 Don't nobody have no followers on Instagram. They nixed that shit. You got 4% of whatever that number say. 3% of what, it's over for that. 1:25:48 They not ever letting you get Full access to whatever that is. They stop that was too many people getting too much money And 1:25:57 I'm not getting a cut off. Yeah So now you go fix some shit now your numbers say 5000000 people you take it to Nike Nike 1:26:05 is down with you. You start getting busy all over the place. Instagram is like, wait, huh? You work for me. Man, I'm not mad. If 1:26:13 I'm Instagram, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that either. I am. I'm not mad at that either. I am if I'm Instagram. No, you're not doing that Something 1:26:21 over here to be able to do that. That's hard. I am it's business at the other man Yeah, but their business is selling data. We're mad at we're mad at it. But if I'm them 1:26:29 thinking from them Yeah, I understand why they're making they're double-dipping. That's my issue. Yeah, I mean it's fucked up, but. I think it's horrible. It 1:26:37 is horrible. Like, then give me my data back. Word. Well, you don't have to come here. People so voluntarily give away 1:26:46 their data. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they volunteered that. We put the terms and conditions right there. You didn't read it. You clicked accept and you went and gave us your data. Go somewhere else. We the big 1:26:54 boys on the block right now. And when you go there, guess what? You're gonna be doing the same shit over here too with them. So you wanna be a part of that team? You're gonna lay down somewhere. I use Instagram at, 1:27:02 yeah, and that somewhere is gonna be somewhere that benefits and behooves me. I'm using Instagram as 1:27:10 a vehicle for a commercial. That's it. Or that nothing else. I'm not trying to direct no business from here. I'm 1:27:18 not trying to get business from here. When they send me the little message, hey up top the business insider say your account is the 1. No, they move, ex, get 1:27:26 out of here. I'm not here for none of that. But to the person that is there for that, Instagram says you can do that, you just gotta pay. And that's 1:27:34 part of our business model. Sure, you can run it up over here all you want. We'll give you all the tools and all the access to help you do so, but you're gonna pay for that. You're not gonna get that. After 1:27:42 you pay it, how can you prove it? My problem is I've used them for business reasons. You're gonna never end the game. I've used them for business shit, and it wasn't great experience, 1:27:51 so I choose not to. I've used them for business experiences. I haven't had a great... You didn't like it? Yeah, it's not worth it. And once you start 1:27:59 doing it, they'll go ahead and start shadowbending your shit the minute you stop using it. So I'm 100%. Instagram for me at this point literally 1:28:07 is just a, I don't even put personal shit on my Instagram page at this point. It's literally just me being able to commercialize whatever the 1:28:15 fuck I got going on. That's it. I just mean it. You're supposed to find out about it now. That's true. Niggas ain't doing nothing. That's peace. That's all. 1:28:24 Get some shirts and shit You just can't help it. Yeah. No, I got some clothes myself That's peace. I had to say A 1:28:32 or 7 is package. Yo, there's a lot PO box with my address. That's peace. Yeah. Yo, you know what's so crazy? What's so crazy, fuck? Yo, 1:28:40 I just woke up because I was daydreaming and shit and that was it. But we just gotta be like I'm thinking about 1:28:48 this this weekend about all of us. How we're in the public eye and we put ourselves out there but then we try to like add 1:28:57 rules that just goes against being in the public eye. And I mean the only person that moves privately is him, right? But a lot 1:29:05 of us, like, we don't move privately. We do shit publicly. And then when we criticize about it, it's a big deal. I was 1 of them. 1:29:13 I had to figure out, I had to stop that. I was making myself... It was driving me crazy. Like, arguing with niggas. That whole shit I was doing, I was like, man, this is the stupidest shit in the 1:29:22 world. I'm doing it, they said it for me. It's not like somebody is coming, like the things that I was doing, exposing behind the scenes shit, that's completely different. That's 1:29:30 not my argument, you got me on there. It's funny, I think everybody up here is private. I was just, nah, not really though, Joe. Yes, she explains 1:29:38 it. Explains it. I don't think like, if we talk about, he might be more private, or the most 1:29:46 private. Yeah, but you're not really private. A lot of the stuff we crack jokes on, like you share publicly. It's still private. I'm very private. Okay. 1:29:54 But that's very private. You still share something and then- But you can be private and share something. You can choose what you want to share. That don't mean you're not private. What do you consider, yeah, because I agree. I think everybody up 1:30:03 here is private. I do too. I don't know. I think some of this, go ahead. I think we share things and then we try to add stipulations to what 1:30:11 we share. Like he used to say, like, if you don't want people to talk about it, don't share it at all. But then we try to share it to be more comfortable and to be intertwined 1:30:19 against with the show and shit like that or whatever it is. But it was just something that was bothering my mind of, I don't want anybody to comment on anything. I don't want the people to comment on 1:30:27 nothing. I don't want you to talk about my family, talk about people. But then we will come and share these things that they end up talking about. So like, if you understand what I'm saying, so that was, 1:30:35 I don't know if I'm explaining it right. Perception wise, they probably wouldn't view me as private. I get that. See, I think you're very private. I think you just picking choose 1:30:44 what you put out there. What I share and how much I share and the way I carry that. I can see people saying that Joe's not proud. 1:30:52 But when people comment on the stuff that you share, I don't see you, only I guess if you're engaging with someone I see that you have your boundaries, but you don't put, you just accept it. 1:31:00 You don't put no stipulations. But a lot of us in the entertainment field, we have stipulations. We would get upset. See, for me, there's nothing to put a stipulation on because I haven't shared anything that's 1:31:08 sacred, which is why I'm private. Interesting. See, like, I think that- You're not saying there's no issue? No, I understand what you're saying. I think that this, I think that 1:31:17 what, I disagree with what you're saying. I think that once you're into a public sphere, right, if you put something out, then that can be critiqued. If 1:31:25 you put it out there. But I think that the minute that people start to go, start delving into your personal life, and searching and yeah, 1:31:33 to find shit for you, I think that is a different thing. The shit that you put out to the world, yeah, they can critique it every day. Yeah, so let me say that, 1:31:42 private as you could be on a show of this magnitude. Yeah. Yeah. But if I wasn't over here, shit. They wouldn't know anything. Yeah, 1:31:53 I don't think people consider the fact that, especially this show, I don't talk about other shows, because I don't think other shows have the expectation that a 1:32:02 part of our job is to come off like we are sharing our lives and if we don't then it doesn't feel like it fits the dynamic of the show. 1:32:10 So there has to be a way to find a balance between doing that but then also keeping like I think a lot of things for me per se that are actually private to my life 1:32:19 I keep private to my life and then there's certain things that I might share here that I'll allow for people to go ahead and play back and forth with but and some shit that just 1:32:27 comes back from the street yeah and then that job is decided to bring up you know I'm saying see there you go again some 1:32:36 shit sometimes it be public though E it don't it don't And I don't want to personalize it. Okay, okay. I don't want to do it, 1:32:44 but a lot of times we'll do that too. It be a little public. A lot of times we'll go ahead. I'll be a little public. Oh, all right, you got it. I know y'all got something. You 1:32:52 know how I know y'all private? I think about this a lot. I know y'all got something juicy in the privacy closet that I can have fun with. See, and that, 1:33:00 honestly, that's why niggas keep shit private. I know there's something in there. That's nasty. You think so? Yes! You gotta get me. 1000 percent, yes. 1:33:08 You don't think it's the same with no fish? At whose expense? Why you don't tell yours then? I do. No you don't. I do. No you don't, 1:33:16 No you don't, Flip. A lot of stuff that I share, I do. Flip. No you don't. You share it up here? Share it with y'all, I mean. No, no, no. No, for public consumption. While the red lights are 1:33:24 on, you share it up here? For public consumption? For my family, you think all that shit I be saying about my wife and shit like that, that I wanna say? You barely say anything. Your wife wearing board a couch? No, 1:33:33 but even- Or a pool table. Even the illusion of eluding to the financial abuse, like you think I wanna say that? 1:33:42 Like you think I wanna just play, like, I say things that people question and ask, I'm putting it out there. But that ain't nobody that had no fun. You know exactly what we 1:33:50 talking about. And you know you been in content so long, you know the meat and potatoes that if you throw them out, the fucking sharks and the bears will 1:33:58 go get you. Bro, you guys, people, listen. They've been saying I've been cheating on my wife for years. Let me just say it. They been accusing me of that. 1:34:06 Some incident, some instance, there was a whole big blow up years ago and my wife gave me a warning. Yo, if this shit happen again. Da 1:34:14 da da da da. Right? I still go out there and engage and breathe. Not that, because my wife would pack that shit up and leave. She'll take everything, she don't give a fuck. She doesn't 1:34:22 like, how out, she would. She would go right with you. The pool table can't fit. Yeah, that's different. I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing. She'll go right to Queens, but what I'm saying 1:34:30 is that I still surround myself and do things for content purposes. I still, I'm still seen with the whole Flip the Network stuff, and we crack jokes, 1:34:39 and she hear about it, and she just looks like, all right, let me hear something else. And it hasn't been crazy, because I've been moving way better 1:34:47 than I have before. I put that out there, Freeze. I shared something with Ice last week, right? I shared something with Ice last week, right? 1:34:55 Told him. Now I did say. What happened, what wasn't? I can't do that. No, no, no, yeah. So I shared something with him that I know. Well, let me at least try to guess I was 1:35:04 talking him don't do that She was thick I Said well you share shit with freeze. You ain't sharing with me. Yeah, why damn? Yeah, 1:35:12 so That's crazy But I didn't know I do know when I come up here, there's 1:35:20 certain things that you got to keep going, you got to play into that the other people or whatever that 1:35:28 you're trying to protect this and this and that have come to an understanding to say, okay, this is your job. I'm going to separate that from this, go on boom, allow you to do what you need to do. Just as long as 1:35:36 I'm never hurt by it. And listen to this and that, as long as it's got that understanding, I'm cool. So there is a- How can we have an understanding if you didn't share it with me, you share it with Freeze? 1:35:45 Because if I don't share it with you, then it will never be brought up in the... I hope you're right. So you didn't even bring it up. I hope you're right. I'm not... It's not worth taking it 1:35:53 up. You didn't hear this nigga just say, I know it's something juicy in your lives that I can have fun with? I hope I don't find out on my own accord, yo. You're not going to find out. You're not 1:36:01 going to find out. I hope that you all are right. You're not going to find out. I hope you all are right. Because boy oh boy. I so want y'all. Nick 1:36:09 can't wait, right? Nah, that's peace. Nah, I'm rooting for y'all cause if I do. Now he gonna go home, he ain't gonna be able to go to 1:36:17 sleep now. Each 1 of y'all got something in the privacy closet that would turn this show up. Nah. When you say turn it up, as 1:36:25 far as what? Turn it up and what? What does up mean? No, no, we don't want up mean, but I'm just saying turn it up. Like view-wise, like engagement-wise. No, I 1:36:33 don't care about none of that. I'm talking about the just, the talk. Can you assume what you think each person will be? You have like an ass if you had to 1:36:41 pick parks this thing his secret that would turn this shit up What would it be? He's a serial killer. Oh god. Don't get this nigga going. Yes, You know what I think about 1:36:50 him. That Long Island Strangler. It's really popping. Bodies keep popping up. Long Island is right there. That nigga's like, him 1:36:58 right there, there's something going on that he don't want to get on the city's radar. He gave it away when he fell over the sewer. And they like, 1:37:06 hey man, why you in the sewer? Oh, no, no, no. Don't even know my tramp. And then he turned around and said, I got 2 cats. 1:37:14 You still ain't suing? Yo, and the cats that the room thought I was crazy about but okay He's got 2 1:37:22 cats 2 cats All right, so he yeah, he's a story of strangler. Yes I 1:37:39 should I should to me is he's already married. Ice shit would be he's already married, for me. Free. That's his shit. That's his shit. Niggas start to stare 1:37:47 at that freeze. That guy was just married. I love Freeze. That guy was just married already. But nah, 1:37:55 Ice got something juicier than that pause. He got something juicier than this marriage shit. But that's why he won't invite me to his house, because I'll figure it out. First 1:38:04 48. I'll figure that out. My first 48 minutes over there, I'll figure that out, boy. But it's cool. It's cool. Him, 1:38:12 he enough. Speculate, what you think though? You said Parks is a baby. A baby strangle. I'll tell you another thing. I'm rich if that happened. I'm still looking like a mother. You 1:38:20 got another child? I think like you got some type of 50 Shades of Grey dominatrix room set up in your house, but you're not a dominatrix. He like to be beat. 1:38:29 I'm a beat ass up. He's a soul. Yo. Oh, yo. He's submissive. I'm a soul. Yo, that nigga getting spikes on his 1:38:37 balls. He got nipples clenched and shit. What? Yeah, it's 1000000000. Yeah, exactly. That's what I 1:38:45 say. You got a submissive king. Hot wax on his balls. I think there's duality to the game room. Oh, 0, shit. 1:38:54 That's funny. That's funny. Yeah, word. Damn, so you like get kicked in the nuts, alright. That's just what I think, Just what I think, man. 1:39:02 Don't hold it against me. The black ball Giamatti, the black version. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo, that's. What, man? Yo. 1:39:10 The big Kahuna. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Hey. Jonah 1:39:20 thought this 1 through already too. Since I was 11. This ain't new. Since 11 I been thinking 1:39:28 about this 1. This is some tea nigga. Why niggas always do that? There's nothing in it. Yeah, 1:39:37 nah, it's just shit, man. Come on, let's hit. Come on, what you want me to do, man? I know it's some wild shit, too. Yeah, yeah. Y'all can join in with 1:39:45 y'all's, with y'all's, Boy, you go first, Will. Boy, boy, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking. 000. I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking, him. He's shit, man. Yeah, 1:39:55 -> 100:03.310] Frizz. I'm trying to think, bro, you gotta. It's nothing, bro. What you see is what you get, my nigga. We don't