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anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best
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interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Who's here, right? And Rono. Who's actually? Oh, no, yeah, not too far
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where we Well good we got family and well no Okay
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microphone check 1212 And then boys deep down 1, 2. That nigga voice deep as hell. Scared the shit out of me.
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I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Yeah, Beast is, Beast is, Beast is OG. Yeah, I know for real. His name is Beast. Yeah.
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Yeah. Are we starting? We are, we are. Okay, so listen man, we play around up here a lot but the jokes
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ain't jokes if we never get serious man. We toss around that music royalty term a lot for some artists that sometimes
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they may, sometimes they haven't done enough to earn that, but you wanna be respectful in their presence, show them a
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good time as a host. Today is not 1 of those days. Today the man that we have joining us, boy
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am I honored, The real time, the real kind too. I like, I just. Yeah, that's the foley shit. You gotta say it. Absolutely, yeah. But today,
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very different. We have an absolute legend. 1 of my favorite music people in the history of music. Even
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that is like damn we old man. Ladies and gentlemen, please make some noise for the legend, Teddy Riley.
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Yes. Legend. Thank you. Thank you. When you a legend, you don't
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even say yes. Yeah, you're used to it. You're used to it. Let the rules show up in my presence, and who the fuck I be. Teddy, how you doing, man? I'm great, man.
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Just overwhelmed. We honored to have you. I'm glad to be here finally. Yeah. I made it. Yeah, yeah, long overdue. Yeah, we've been trying for a while. Yeah, this was
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supposed to happen for a while. I'm almost famous. Yeah, yeah, all right. I'm almost famous, yeah. So, hopefully you're not tired of doing press. Are you sick of
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doing press so far? No, never sick. Do you love it? We live it. We love it, we live it. God damn. It's not much you can say. Yeah, everything you gonna say gives me power. Everything
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you say is what you're about to be like. So you have this book here. I'd love for you to tell me all about it before I get into my messy questions.
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Okay. It's called Remember the Time. And what it's about is basically remembering where you come from. And how
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I made the song, It was basically about a relationship that I've been in for a long time, actually my daughter's mother.
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And we were on outs and breaking up and this record really kept us together even
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when we broke up as friends, you know, because we always remember where we came from. But this book
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here tells you about everything that a lot of people remember that I went through and my path and my journey, my
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mistakes and my success. This nigga smooth. Why you talking? You just, you know. This skin's just like butter. He's
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smooth. He's smooth. This man is smooth. You're amongst the homies. You remember that guy? He is. Cream cheese boy.
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He with me. Is this your real voice? Yeah, it's my voice. This is how I am. Every day, all day. He's sold too many records. I got to ask you. You never screamed
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at nobody? You never had like, I Can't picture you screaming or barking on somebody. He screamed on guy. Yo, stop Only time my voice
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get loud when I'm on stage see yeah Constantly professional. Yeah, you know, can we clear some up? Cuz me and me and issue over here keep battling
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about Where you really from right and where you really wrapped So I know you of St. Nick, Harlem, right? But
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he keep going to say, you're more a Virginia dude. Well, I spent more time in Virginia. Okay. All right. Where were you at when you made the slaps?
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I was in New York. Soundworks and soundtracks. That's all I needed. Yeah, we good. But the bigger hits
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were Virginia and Canada. You set y'all up. Boom boom that, nigga. I had Michael Jackson in Virginia
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and Bobby Brown in Virginia, but I did my prerogative in New York. Okay. Okay, that's big. Virginia's got it.
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Okay. Piece of Virginia. All right, issue 1. When somebody says, where's home, What do you say? I can't. I always say NYVA. Smart. Smart.
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That makes a lot of sense. When you speak about it, when you talk about your mistakes, I mean, from the outside looking in, I can't imagine that the average person knows what the mistakes are.
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It just seems like a career littered with nothing but success. Can you speak to me about what some of those mistakes were in your eyes? Well, having bad
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management. I'm sure you heard about Gene Griffin and how he took everything from me. I pretty much
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let it go because I know What I learned from my parents and my mom mainly is you know talent takes you long take you
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further than money And it did you know when he took everything I just kept going What part of your career
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was that? That was back in 87, 88, 89. I left them
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at 89. That's round the Bobby era, right? That's Keith Sweat. No, that's Guy.
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Guy and Keith Sweat. The first New Jack Swing record is what? That was 86, 87. The
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New Jack Swing. The Waxing Effect. Oh, which 1? No, I'm just saying the first 1 of the genre. The sound. Oh,
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84. That was 84, 85. That's Doug E. Fresh, the show. Nah, Raps New Generation. Wow.
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I be forgetting about this show. Right, right. He forget that. When it gets to it. He forgets that. Before the verses I was like, oh yeah. I ain't know that before the verses. Babyface
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ain't know that before the verses. No, he didn't. He didn't know that. You see his face when he was like, I didn't know you made that. Yeah. Now, do you feel like
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your Wi-Fi let the culture down? Yep. No, no, it didn't let the culture down. It kept the culture going. It kept
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it going. Oh, yeah. Teddy Robbins. It made it even bigger. He right. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. That was classic. Wait, we are the biggest, the biggest
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versus of all of them. I can believe that. Who can deny, who denies that? I'm trying to think. We are the number
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1 biggest. We had 8000000000 instances. Nobody had that. And even Instagram didn't want to admit
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that because they want Justin Bieber and they want the other artists to be the biggest. We were the biggest. But
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your wifi. My wifi was the Teddy-Fi. But afterwards, you know, it became the best Wi-Fi. I
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put some money into that. Call Verizon, Xfinity, all the money. But it actually wasn't the Wi-Fi. I'm going to tell you what it was. I had this
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in my house. This whole setup was in my house. It was just too much for Instagram. Instagram, you
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just take a radio and your shit gonna sound nice. So we had setups. We had the board. We had equipment.
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We had drummer. We had everybody. There's a lot going on. Getting all those inputs into Instagram to your point. Because I can actually play you the
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recording. There was no feedback or nothing. It was just Instagram. And they beefed up their system as you could see
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they went into doing big production. Yeah because of me now I'm a two-month-old right now. Is that something to do
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again? It's the truth. They wouldn't have all of this, the specialists and the lights and cameras and action and all of that stuff if I
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didn't do what I did. Would you do it again? Or, nah, pass it? Anytime. You're saying do it again? If they came back and
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said, yo, we got everything together, now you can really be accommodated the way you want to do it, would you go back and do it again? I'm sorry, I don't think Babyface want to do it. I just don't
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think he want to do it. Why you say that? You'll do it against somebody else? Who else is it? I think we passed that,
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you know. I think we passed it, but if we said babyface, let's go on tour and do it. I don't think you want to do it. There's
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a reason you're saying that. You had 1 bullet in your gun that you was ready to use for the rest of y'all. Y'all kick rock somewhere. Babyface, you
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was ready to... Of course I was ready. Oh my God. Come on, we from Harlem. Come on, we from New York. Yeah. When we not ready? Face,
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you lucked out, nigga. You lucked out. Don't be phony, could be. Yeah, he'll be phony, right? What? No, but
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I'ma say this. Babyface is the greatest writer in the world. 1 of the greatest writers in the world. I respect him to the utmost. But I
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don't know why he does not want to share the stage with me. What's your suspicion about why? I
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don't know. He'd rather be with Charlie Wilson and the OGs. Be the young OG instead
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of the... Yeah. Gotcha. I think if we did something it would be special. It's not a competition. It's about the culture and we have a lot of records. We
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could have a 3 hour show. For sure. Easy. Bring artists on and... Easy. It would be amazing. I don't understand how we can leave that money on the table. How
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many attempts have you made to go on tour with him? I mean, he don't need the money, I don't need the money. But the culture needs something like this. Did
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you ever approach him about a toy before of course and you know, it was always no this You know, he's quiet. Yeah, so you 2 having
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a conversation is like, yeah Look in the book our pictures in there. I was the last time I talked to him about it I was like you sure you won't do
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this. He's a 9 There's still some level of competition you think there? No, it's not about competition.
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It's really about giving the fans what they would love to see. They
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seen it on verses, but that was us sitting at a table. Yeah, it ain't the same. Yeah, but do you think it's competition on his part, though? It's not on your part. You seem like you just
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like, let's give it to the people. But do you think with him, he still have that competitive spirit when it comes to music. Might not want to get showed up. I just don't think it will be a competition because
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we're not going to do it like you go first, I go second. It's like we do it selectively. Like how Chris Brown and Trey Songz
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or how Brandi and Monica, they beat us to the punch and we had the idea first. Got it. When you
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were on Versus, there were, at least from my perspective, I heard a lot of people not realizing just how big your catalog was, particularly the younger generation.
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Do you feel like you don't get the credit you deserve for all you've done? I'm cool with it. I
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don't have no feelings for that. You know what I'm saying? I just keep making records. I keep going. Whether
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they're recognized or not, I know that the clubs is dancing. So with a Bruno- That's what matters to me. So with a Bruno, like for
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instance with Bruno and he does a whole album that pretty much is, we could say a paying homage to your sound. At no
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point do you feel like you kind of- They should have called you. Right, that's what I'm saying. I should have got a call. No. No? It's just,
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see for me, it's the legacy. It's really truly about the legacy. If my music lived beyond my existence, that's what matters.
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I wanna be like how the people who created, our people who created all of the things that we are seeing right now, I
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wanna be amongst those people. Stuff rich people say. Can you walk me through the
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success of that first guy album and Just all the success that came from
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that and what happened between that album and the next album? The first album
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was with Timmy Gatlin. How we got into doing this, I Kind of met Aaron through Timmy because they used to work at home in Brooklyn at
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a shoe store. I was actually mixing I wanna your studio here in Jersey and They
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came to the studio and basically they wanted me to produce them, you know, like Casey and JoJo. But Aaron didn't want that. He wanted me in the group. He
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said if he had to do that, he'd rather go solo. I guess he didn't want to be in the group with just Timmy. So when that happened, we did the album. We
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actually did it in my projects. I did it all on the 12 track Akai and making that album I got to really know Aaron because he
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would stay over my home because he didn't want to go all the way back to Brooklyn. So the making of the album we were successful you know by
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his amazing voice you know you know and putting it with my production it just was a great combination,
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along with Timmy writing a lot of songs with us. That success. But you're hot already at this time. Yeah. You're on fire.
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Yes. But they felt like you know I wasn't. But you know I just kept
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going. You know me I just like my music being out there to the mass. It didn't matter how I got it out there.
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So working with them and us working together as a group, it became successful. I didn't know how successful it was gonna be until
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we started going places and we couldn't even get in our own concert. Like the, what's that place on,
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I think it's downtown Palladium, is that Palladium? We had a show down at Palladium, we had a show at Studio 54, Is that right?
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And we couldn't even get in our own show. They had to take us to a door that they never even opened. It's been a long time since they even opened the door of
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the Palladium, this place, and the police had to take us around and get us back there to get on that stage. That's when I felt like, wow,
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dang. And 1 of the police was like, yo, this is like the Black Beatles. And that's what made me say, okay, this is something special. I gotta
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figure it out because we were still with Gene doing shows and not making no money. No money. We
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never took anything home when we were with Gene. It's like we were getting salaries. But-
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During the I like, peace of my love. Goodbye love, all of that. Yeah. Yeah. How were you processing that in the moment? Were you like, this is wrong? Or were you like, this is gonna get better?
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Like how were you thinking about that in that moment? You know, like I said, we from Harlem. We from New York, we plant our leaves. And that's what I
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did. I was seeing 1 of the group members of Abstract, the group that we signed, and she was vice president
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of a bank, and she gave me a platinum American Express, And she said, I said, what is
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this card? You know, I'm joking the card, because we pay cash for everything. So she was like, you're gonna need it. I
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said, oh wow. So I kept the card, you know, I keep cards, you know, things that I feel is important. And 1 day,
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I came back to New York to release everybody from their contracts. Guy, Tammy Lucas, Big Bub, Today, everybody.
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I gave him the release because I'm the partner. Big Bub. I'm the partner of GR Productions. So I said, I'm gonna go up and just let everybody
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go because I know what I was gonna do when I got back was split with him. So trying to get back,
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he cut off all the cards because somebody told him what I was doing. We had a snitch in the camp. About some busy men, of course. So they told him
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what I was doing and he cut off all the cards. Somebody told him what I was doing. We had a snitch in the camp. We had a snitch. Of course. So they told him what I was doing and he cut off all the cards. So I'm at the airport. I don't carry a lot of cash, so I keep like maybe
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20, 50 dollars in my pocket, you know, and he cut off all the cards and I called her I said I gotta come and
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stay with you until I can get back to get my family and she said look in your bag, Remember that card I gave you? That card. I
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took the card out, gave it to the clerk, the cashier, and she said, your first class seat is available. I went back to Atlanta and
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got my family, used the card, I said, how much is on this card? She said, what you wanna be on it? I said, I don't know.
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She said, what you want, 100, 000? I said, yeah, make it 100, 000. So I used that card to get my family back, get us back
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in the projects. We went back to the projects, and then maybe 2 weeks later, we moved out here to East Rutherford where all
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the football players were. And when I moved there, Keith Sweat lived in there and Keith was 1 of
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the ones that helped me make my first $30, 000. He gave me a remix. Now I never made $30, 000 on a remix or
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even more than that. In that same month, I made about $200, 000. Which remix? Just on remixes. Wow, what's all that? I did Make You
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Sweat, I did Don't Wanna Fall In Love, Jane Child, and I did, there's another 1, Why You Wanna Dog Me Out.
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And I- Why You Wanna Dog Me Out? That's so great, cause Jane Child, I was a child, but However, I remember loving that
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song and then seeing her and not matching, but I'm like, she has the music. Why is, who is, who's Boologues?
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But at this point, you're outta here. You're just passing them out. Yeah. And I never heard another James Howe record after that. Yeah,
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me neither. What's funny is I ask about the guys stuff because sometimes when I'm out the song dancing comes on and
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every time I hear it I'm like This is such a great song that I don't think many people even know is
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Guy. What could have happened between 0.1 and point B? What happened is we never kept the consistency. And
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that was the thing that I got so tired of. You know, it's like 1 minute we're good, everybody making money. After
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we make our money, niggas disappear. And that to me just makes me feel like, you know, Like how we was
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in the streets and when I used to hustle people get a money and they go but I continue working Cuz my goal is I got to feed
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the family my mom. We had to pay the rent Yeah, so that's what I went I was in there for mmm. So mmm That
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sounds awesome, but for the rest of my life, I looked at Black Street like a guy diss You did Yes, wait
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Well it you left you 1 group where you produced and gave out hits and then I never heard from these niggas again. And
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then a few years later. That's my first time hearing that. Like, this is like this. I was just moving on. That's why I was so glad that you was
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coming because I got to ask questions that don't point out. I don't understand why you look like that. Yeah, like that's the right question. Same reason I brought up Zack Chabernet and
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Kenneth Walker, similarly. But I don't feel like Guy and Blackstreet were given off the same vibe or sound. Our hit producer with this sound
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that is out of this world is now in a new group, Giving them hit after hit. Different sound though. But an elevated sound. Yeah, different
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sound. From the guy sound. Yeah. Well, it was later. I am. Let me say this. Going from them, I felt like it was,
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for me, it was moving on. And I'll tell you why, because the songs that I did with Black Street guy couldn't sing that's all Yeah, it's total different. Yeah,
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I'm sure you you're saying the songs he did with what? But what I saw that I did with Black Street guy could I can't see at all. It was not tailored for that That was
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an elevated version of what he was doing at that point. Is that because there were multiple vocalists? Yes, and the range. See Aaron
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can't sing Falsetto like Mark Mittle did. You know what I'm saying? So I have Falsetto in the group. I had a range. Like I could make anything with Black Street.
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Yeah. I couldn't make anything with Aaron Hall because he was more of a Charlie Wilson
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Stevie Wonder. He couldn't do Fawcettl. Got it. And Damien, you know, was just a dancer. It's not the only
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beef I put on your jacket either, by the way, pause. A lot of, I feel like you're largely responsible
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for the new addition breakup. No, I'm not. I feel like that. Why? Why? Cause of successor Bobby. She just get on the show. That 1 I don't see, you gotta break
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that down. Yeah, on the breakup, when everybody was fighting, everybody got a new jack swing pack Johnny
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Gill solo album a New Jack Swing Pack. Fear Weather Friend, all of that. Ralph Tresvant, Stone Cold Gentleman, that
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whole his solo, New Jack Swing Pack. Bobby, New Jack Swing Pack. BBD, New Jack Swing Pack. How could we not look at it
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like that? So blame it on the boogie. Don't blame it on TR.
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It was a collaboration here. Like we had everybody went like an army. We went this way Timmy Gadlin wrote for
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BBD then you had Jimmy Jam Terry Lewis who wrote for a new edition new edition and Johnny John
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and then you had the same thing with Ralph they did sensitivity then you had Babyface who did Don't Be Cool,
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and those New Jack Swing records. So blame it on New Jack Swing. And they all came together. They all tore together. But he ain't causing
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the breakup. If anything, he kept it together. They all still tore together. It was just a seed. Yeah. I put the seed in the water and they started to be feeding calls to be. The whole group
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break up and now everybody getting hits and 1 nigga hits is, you see what My Perrogative did? Yeah. Oh, I promise.
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Yeah, nigga. Yeah, that's on his jacket. Yo. That's on Teddy Riley's jacket. The success of My Paragative and what it did on that tour that they
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showed. You know Bobby had an album before that that didn't really do what it needed to do. So now when I come double back around with a new sound that's popping, what
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you want me to do about that? And you know, Bobby. Not give out the shit. So not succeed. Yeah, you know Bobby ain't only have my prerogative on
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that out. So we should keep it to ourselves. We can't give it away. Tenderoni is big. I mean, art is to give away. Maybe Fizz, right. Art is supposed to give it away. Not in the
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same group while the group is breaking up and we beefing. Okay. Cause the way that they, this guy's crazy. Listen, I've watched
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the new edition story 20 good billion times. So the way that they paint the story is Ralph was supposed to go out and kill Solo. And
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yeah, I think he sold like a few million records. And then here come Bobby Brown with this shit. I put a lot of it on Teddy, I'm sorry, don't worry about it. I'll take the blame. That's
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crazy. As long as it was successful, That's why I'm here today. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be here sitting with y'all. It was all successful.
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Yeah, yeah, it all worked. What's your favorite New Jack swing record? Remember the time. Second favorite. My prerogative. Do
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you want to third? No third. No diggity. That's the fourth and fifth. That's new jack? Fourth and fifth? Yeah.
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Don't leave. Fifth? Wow. I'd
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say fifth would be, well I'm shaking. Oh that's more beef. No diggity. With Dr. Dre? I adore you.
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More. Did you know about that? What? Or is that true, the no diggity being a beef, the no diggity I ain't mad at you, Tupac I ain't mad at you. Nah, that was, don't
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leave and I ain't mad at you. Don't leave. Don't leave. No, that was no beef. That was, that's actually, we were cool then.
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When we kind of went this way was when I didn't join Def World. Shug wanted me to join
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Def World. I didn't know at the time, and me and Dre was together last week. We was trying to figure this shit out. Like when he left Shook,
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right, when they split. I got a call from Shook. He came to the studio when
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I was here working with Michael on a history album. And I was like, what's this meeting about? He said, man, he said, if
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you can't beat him, join him. I said, who am I trying to beat? He said well, I'm doing this R&B death row R&B.
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I got Aaron Hall. I got this person. I got What's his name? Danny boy, and he said you the
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missing piece. I Said okay So what's the proposal? He said I
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want you to come join Defo. Now this time I didn't even know that Dre was out, and I get a call from
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Jimmy Iveen saying Dre heard No Ditty and said, yo, when Teddy do this video, I want to be in it. And I said, yo, if he
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give me 16, we can do this together. I still didn't know. So I'm here like, I'm jamming with him. Next thing you know, Suge
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throws out, what's that, the Tupac record, Toss It Up. And it had the
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same sample, That's the Beef. That's the beef. I know that there's beef surrounding, no diggity. Where's the beef? Yes, okay, I'm not crazy. So that's what
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happened, and I felt like Shug, you know, he was mad at me because I didn't call him. He said,
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I gave you 24 to 48 hours, he hit me back about it, and I never called him back. That don't sound like a proposal. Yeah. It's
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an ultimatum. Right, that's what it almost felt like. Yeah, but you know, Did you feel played? You know, we don't feed into that.
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You felt played by bottom- Did you feel played by somebody in that situation? I did, but you know, I called the right person and
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they ended it. They shut it down and you know today, Sugar and I are real cool. I did some things
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for Shug that no 1 would step out to do and it was just to help him to keep his health right. And that's how I am.
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I even got back with Gene before he passed. It's only because I'm a forgiving person. I come from
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a place where we didn't have nothing. And for me to do something for them, Sugar is the, he's
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like the protege of Gene. But at the same time we develop a friendship that you know, it's almost like I'm little
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broad now But I'm more Neutral with everybody because you know, I still you
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know, I'm Dre we hang Jimmy So I kind of stay in the middle of everything. Like Mark asked
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earlier real quick, with the Gene situation, and I don't know if you really answered it, When did you realize that
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you were getting robbed, that y'all were getting robbed? What was it? Was it the shows? Was it a record that came out
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that was big? When did you realize that, yo, we're getting robbed, so we have to get away from this? When it's Hitchman, right-hand man gave me the contracts. And
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he made me understand it. He said, he's from, he passed away, but he's from Guyana And he showed me the
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contracts when he showed me the kind he said, you know, he robbing you, you see this here, take this contract and go with another lawyer and just have it looked
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at. And they explained everything to me. And at the same time, I was planning my leave because I don't know if you know the time when
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he had a beef with Andre Orwell and beat him up in the office. I remember that. Okay, when that happened, that right there, because Andre's
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like a brother to me. Same, rest in peace, Andre. That's what made me plan my leave. It took me about 6 months.
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And when I did it, it was perfectly timed. Only thing that wasn't timed right was I ain't had the money. I had no bread. I had no bread. So I just
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went, I ain't even think about it because I thought I could still use the GR production card. But when she told
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me about that card, I had that card for about 5, 6 months, and I paid it back.
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I had paid over $250, 000 on 1 bill. But I made it, because that was the time I did Michael Jackson.
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And then your money got up. It never went back down. Yeah, never again. You talk about it in financial lows. Has
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there ever been a point in your career where you felt like you hit a creative low or it was just, nothing was working or you just was having a hard time trying to piece some things
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together? For me, a creative low, I never had 1. No. I mean, I- What the fuck
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is that? Nah, what's it? I put ideas in my... When we used to have little recorders, I
30:56
put ideas... I had ideas for years. And I'm still on those same ideas. You know, all the ideas. You
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know, I just never felt it. You know, so if I didn't have
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like, how you say, if I didn't have the creativity, that's what made me go to, I moved to Korea for 2 years and
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just became a whole new person. I have 9 number ones in Korea right now. What was this? This was 2010,
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11, 12, and when Heavy D passed away, that's when I came back. So I'll find a way, come on, we hustlers, y'all.
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True. We know how to street, if you don't have street smarts in the music business, you ain't gonna make it. You very rarely hear
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people so flat, bluntly just say that. Right, because so many of the audience, they have no idea what the actual music business entails
31:59
until they hear artists come up here and share some of their war stories and their horror stories. Do you think there'll be a day where, well actually
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when you say that, we talking about us and our experience in the music business. But do you think there'll be a day where you don't have to be street
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smart to succeed in the music business if you're black? No. You got to have some sort of. You got to
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know how to have something to fall back on. Because if you don't, you're done. Now
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hustle while you can. So I'll say this. I am from church. I played in church, but I played in the streets.
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And when you play in the streets, you know how to play in the music game. And most of the people that got in the music game is from the streets. That's black. We
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brought that up before. Do you feel like we had a conversation about specifically male R&B today, what we think is missing? And I
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said a big part of I think is some level of that church influence. Is there something that you think outside of that that needs to be reinjected
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into R&B to get it to the top of the charts like it used to be before? Development. We don't have development anymore.
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Nobody's development anybody and that's why you don't have the staying power. Artists don't have the staying power because they don't have no development, no
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arts development. What does development look like? Knowing how to talk, knowing how to have an interview,
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knowing how to be on the same level as your interviewer. You know what I'm saying? Because I could be here with y'all and I
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can be on the news and speak intricately. Y'all can speak intelligently. Knowing how to be humble. Not be humble. PC,
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knowing how to present how to walk how to jog Yeah, how to all of that how you're seen how you come off vocal lessons people business.
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I came in this with I know I sing nothing and when Aaron Hall and my vocal coach Romeo
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and who else? Cluel used to be in the group, Kids at Work. He's a vocal coach, and all these guys taught me. That's how I
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learned how to sing. Aaron Hall taught me how to sing my first song. I was so happy I got into a car accident, hit 4 Cadillacs. What?
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In New Jersey, Teaneck, we did the album at Tony Bennett's house in Inglewood. Of course. Yeah, you know, something
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like Tony Bennett's. Regular. And we had to spend the night, and we in the car, and I'm in a 5.0 Mustang,
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and next thing you know, me and Aaron, he's in the seat, and Teddy, meet Donna, Donna, meet Teddy, and I'm singing
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my wicked spend the night, We don't be doing, next thing you know. The Cadillac
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dealer on Teen Act, well, I hit 4 Cadillacs brand new. Sheesh. Gene came and made it all go away. I
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never gave him my license. Wow. Go Gene. Get your robberies worth. I know. He earned his keys.
35:14
He earned his keys. He earned his steel, right? But yeah, that's... That sounds
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like what I would have did if I made Just Got Paid, Johnny Kemp in the studio. When I left, I had a
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crash. You know that, you knew that's a hit the moment you hear that finish. Can you tell me about that session? Johnny Kemp is a 1 Take
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singer he sung that song in 1 take Wow rest in peace is in the studio now It's even more impressive that you were getting
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robbed when that song was out. Just got paid. Or not. It's just ruined my whole childhood. If you had to put
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a dollar amount on what you think was taken from you. Now, like, cause
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now you OG in the industry, you could kind of put dollar amounts to what you think that would have been worth. Yeah, with the royalties and residuals,
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it would be over, maybe 50 to 60 million. God, jeez. Damn, bro. What'd he say? 50 to 60 million. 50 to 60 million.
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But not just on that song, I'm talking about all the- Period, all the world. All the world. All the priorities and stuff he was taking. You know, it's so crazy.
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Zamba wanted to take him to court, you know, sue him for me, because they knew he was taking my publisher. So
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yeah, Clive Caldo was the 1 who told me, you know, you're very talented, stay out of court. So that's why I didn't really go after
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him. I just wanted to move on. And you still feel good about the decision? I mean, if I wanted to, I could take him now.
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But I would never do it. Because? I Don't know if I want to go back down that that memory you say he's
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gone Do you said yeah, he passed away you said you already got to the process for you? I'm I'm done with that I'm gonna go you can
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show the cream going rise to the top so you can still just keep making money Yeah, that was your only way to make money and you couldn't never get more money, then
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yeah, I would see it. Probably. You about the cake coming April anyway. Once this micro movie drop, I know you done licensed off. I'm
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just, man, I'm blessed, man. That's a good answer. Make some noise for blessings. Yeah, bless. Make some noise for blessings. It's so
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good to be blessed. I work for my children now, man, my children. It's really about feeding the trust, you
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know? And I feel like today I'm doing it right. I'm doing it right for them, and I'm gonna keep
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doing it for them, you know, so that I can, when I decide I want to sit down and take vacations, I can. And I can now, but I'm just,
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I'm on a path right now. It's like, everybody talk about bringing R&B and all of this stuff back, But
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you have to do it in a team. It's gotta be an army. You can't just do it by yourself. I can't do it by myself. And I
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feel like we have to come together as the middle layers. We are the middle layers, whether y'all know it or not. And this was the 1 thing that the black godfather, everybody
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know him as Clarence, Clarence A-Mon, he's like an uncle to me. Every time I go to LA, when I used to go to LA, he said, don't ever come to LA without having
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breakfast with me. Because I wanna hear from you. And every time I go and meet with him, He's like, what are you doing? I
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said, well, I'm going to Africa He said the smartest shit you ever do Get out of here He told me to go when I went to Africa
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Did the same thing I did in Korea? Made a lot of money and made some noise and now we're doing something
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very special over there the Black Essence, Essence Festival and everything going on over there. Just to be a part of
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Nairobi and yeah they're putting it together now and I'm 1 of the heads of it. So
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doing things here is great, but doing things over there is even bigger. And I get to bring folks like Joe Buttons in the whole show
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and give them a big check. We doing Joe Buttons in Africa. We doing this in Africa. And to open up that door for others,
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that's all I've been doing, was just opening doors for people. That's dope. Being a part of discovering the biggest producer
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in the world who's now the head of culture, you know, for Louis Vuitton and
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all of, just being a part of that, you know, it's the legacy. Yeah. So if I can open up them doors I'm gonna keep opening
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the doors. I don't even have to be on stage. Can I ask you, not to go back, but
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I'm mic-ed out so at this point I'm gonna ask you some mic-ed questions? Okay. But when you see kind of some of the musical dealings
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with his music that he made before passing, how did you feel about that? Because you Rodney, very few people had very close
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dealings with Mike creatively. And then to see after he passed how some of the music was handled, what were your feelings on that? Or did you have any involvement or? I
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didn't really, only thing I'm involved with is the music I did. And we're, you know, handling that now because, you
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know, it's so crazy, you got a lot of the big companies out there and folks who feel like they don't have to tap into you when they're using your music
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and that's what's happening right now so we got to fix that And I'm saying it here because I hope they listening
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because you know my team they're coming You know, I have some good people on my team and you know now
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I own my publishing You know, some people can't say that. But for me to have it, you know, it's different.
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It's like a different ballgame. It's like it hits different. So just to have my publishing and, you know, people
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are still clearing my records without me. They must've forgot I own it. I'm 3 years in
41:38
owning my, I did my captions. I think y'all's probably seen Isaac Hayes III, said Teddy Riley
41:46
cleared Let's Chill, That's been cleared since 2023. That's been had to capture it, but they were talking about Bernard
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Bell, I think, because he wrote it with me. So with that being said, You know, answering your question, I'm
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only concerned about mine because when Quincy had the same problem with it, he went for his. He fixed it.
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Yeah, 10 million dollars. I think that was the case. Some more imaginary beef I put on you.
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He tagged a beef with me. Christopher Williams, I'll be sure. What you got to say about that 1? What about? Yeah,
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you hit your hand. What you reaching for here? I'm with Joe on this 1. Go ahead, explain it though. He's the hottest producer in the world with the hottest sound.
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Christopher Williams, I'm dreaming every little thing you do. I'm dreaming his New Jack Swing, Right? And
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Al B. Shore. Al B. Shore comes out first, Christopher Williams comes out second, looking like Al B. Shore with the same producer making hits. And there's
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no beef there. And in New Jack City, too. There's no beef there, you're saying. I didn't do that. Wait, you didn't do what? I did Al B. Shore. I didn't do Christopher Williams. You
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didn't do Dreamin'? No. My- Shut the fuck up, who did Dreamin'? My little brother. 000.
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Boo, that don't count. Nah, nah. Stanley, Stanley, Stanley Brown. Here, take this beat. Yeah. And we gon' say you did it. Right. Stanley Brown. Oh
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my God. Stanley Brown was my music director. How couldn't he not get a piece of the New Jack's wing? Yo, this guy
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has been starting R&B beats all over the place. And he won't cop to none of them. I can't. I can't. Stand tall, baby.
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So what do you cop to? This guy's crazy. Which beef do you cop to? I'll take the Black Street Guy beef. I'll take that. Oh, so he hit it on the nose.
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Huh? He hit it on the nose. Yeah, he did. Because the way he said it, I was like, yeah, you could be right about that. No, I'm going to tell
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you why. Let me tell you why. I'm going to tell you why. Let me tell you why. Because when We was actually,
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how we came up with doing Black Street was, I was working on Bobby and Whitney, right? And we in the studio, I
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needed somebody to sing the demos. So I had Chauncey Black singing the demos. And he was singing the demos like, yo, we need to keep
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some of these records and then he came up with like yo why don't we do a group I said a group yeah I'll help you do a
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group he said no I want you to be in it I think you should be in it I said I don't know man cuz I thought about And
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then I seen an interview with Aaron and Damien, they was talking bad about me, I was like, yo. That was group talk. All right, yo
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Black, what's up street? Soup's ready. And that's how we came up with that. Supt's ready. Supt's ready. Supt's ready mean it
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hits galore over here. I just seen some niggas talking shit. Meet up. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. We
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called in Joseph Stone Street and Levi and just put it together. And we was on that CB4 soundtrack, Baby
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Be Mine. That's right. I had that soundtrack. That's right. So yeah, when we did that, we wasn't even signed to MCA.
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We wasn't signed at all. And John McClain and Jimmy Iovine, you know, asked me what I was doing. I said, well, I got the label,
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I got Wax and the Fack and all of them on the label. He said, but what about that group? I said, well, we ain't signed. We
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want that. And that's how Black Street went to Interscope. And the whole thing with Aaron Damien, when
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they was basically talking bad about me, I just said, you know what? I'm gonna move on. How many times is enough of,
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cause I see you spoke about it recently of. I keep going back. Yeah, like at what point is it like, you know what. It's enough now. It's enough now.
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Got it. I mean, even Sherry, Sherry's like, you're going back, We're not doing that. It's
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time, it's my time. I feel like, you know, this is the fire horse year. That's my sign. And it's my sign
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to leave and keep moving. You know, God is blessing and I'm able to be here with y'all and don't have to worry about
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you know threes and twos and fours it's me now and I can speak my peace my truth and and
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I can move it on. You know, I can hang out with y'all and I ain't gotta worry about nothing else. I ain't gonna lie, he's in such a great
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place that it feels like you can only get to if every situation that you had success with and left fails after you leave.
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Yo, what's wrong with you, man? Joe. This guy's insane. Joe, why your brain going there? No, your brain is a prophet. Joe. He's a prophet. How
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could you not feel, there's a halo effect. Sorry, I'm not talking this idealistic bullshit. I
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know what you're saying. There's a halo effect. If you just pop off everywhere you go and then you leave and it's... Everything still work
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for you. Some comes with that. Some comes with that, sorry. Stick with the band. I didn't mean to do it. I really wanted to really keep this going.
47:21
That was the purpose. Some of them you really wanted to teach a lesson on, right? Well, they get the lesson after they've been unfaithful. It's
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like. To God. To me. To heaven. You've been unfaithful to me and God. Now check this out. Check this out. I'll say it like this.
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I'll say it like this. They always say you can't bite the hand that feeds you. That's 1. 2, you can't overstand the
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sensei. I'll be telling you. Shut the fuck up. You can't over stand the sensei. I would
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never over stand Quincy Jones. Yeah, yeah. I would never over stand babyface. Those are the senseis. You
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got to give them their props. You got to respect them. I don't get that respect. I don't get that love. So I got to keep it moving. I never got
48:11
that love. It was just for them to get a lick. That's crazy to me that Teddy Brownlee feels that way. Why are you saying what
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it is? You only feel that way when you truly know it, because sometimes you want to think that it ain't true. It can't be true. It can't be true that this
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dude is hating on my kids eating. It can't be true, but as
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you see it as a reality, you gotta keep it moving. Because someday he's gonna realize that he
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bit the hand that fed him. I ain't saying no names. You wouldn't have to see if it was me. I would take a picture of my hand. You
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sent it to him? Yeah. With a fork in it. With a fork in it. With a fork, right? Yeah, I got to. With a piece of cheesecake in the shit like that. You got to learn. Hey.
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We was saying the hand, but it was mine. That's got to be. Shouldn't have been mine. They'd be a fight. Can you at least, at bare minimum,
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give us out of all the vocalists you've worked with, can you give me your favorite at least
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that you've worked with as a vocalist? At least top 3? Michael of course
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yeah, I feel like that should be Yeah, don't even come what does I said focus for a reason not artists just Michael... Stevie...
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Also shouldn't count really. Bobby... Bobby... And even sometimes he has some bad days, but when Bobby got it, he got it. It ain't no plan.
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Aaron... Now 1 thing... I could be mad at anybody, but I'm gonna tell you the truth I'm just not gonna hold no
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bars. Aaron Hart was 1 of the greatest singers I've worked with. He was my whole entire life. No Dave? Dave is 1 of them.
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Dave is up there. Dave's tough, right? But you said top 5. Top 5. He's not in my top 5. Cause I still have, I mean, all the
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singers. Whitney. They're really good. But James Engel. That's a singer fool.
50:23
Prince. Yeah. Just. Yeah, you just worked with the greats. Y'all asked him this. Forgot who said it that's
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it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Who got the best verse on Secret Garden? Nigga,
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Joe in his, Joe. Toss up, y'all. No, you know who got it. I don't know. I think it's L. L, bro. I
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was gonna say. But James. I mean, I like everybody, but L just has that. Because L just had that falsetto, that silky shit. But
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if we keep it in a stack, James went crazy, bro. James went crazy. James went crazy, but that. L, bro. Ain't no wrong answers, but I'm taking L.
51:04
Lyskend did it. But they both have that range, L and, but James Angum had more of a chest.
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That chest voice. See, we speak the same language. He had the chest. Well, you don't have creative blocks. He gets creative blocks sometimes. Yo, let me tell you what they're going to do.
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What the fuck? They're going to try to lose my skill. I'm never. They're going to try to lose my skill because I choose to not use
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it as they think I should. Creatively. Why you don't? We're centering our money. You know what it is? Passion is just not there like you used to
51:37
you ain't with the right person that natural That is what yeah, I mean if you get creative with You know pianos or producer that can
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give you some records you'll be like yo, let's put that out tomorrow. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Okay. Then that's what I would say. It's really... He
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said, if you find somebody, aha, they're right up here, but if you happen to bump into somebody, yo, you... He said, 1
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day you're gonna meet somebody. And Amar is such a jerk, He's just lifting like, oh, nah, nigga,
52:11
shoot the shot. Yo, we need a pack. We need a Tanny Riley pack. Nigga, leftovers. Some other shit. Oh
52:19
my God. From what year it is? The death of the bridge in R&B currently.
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Something that bothers me a lot. Some acts that are trying to bring it back. But just currently it just feels like there's
52:37
no effort, no love for the bridge. I can't believe there's a day where there's not love for a bridge
52:45
in an R&B song. How do you feel about that? Some of my favorite songs of all time. I still do bridges. When you hear
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the new G2.0 album, you're gonna hear some bridges. And they'll be meaningful because bridges shouldn't be that long. At least
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give me 4 bars of a bridge and you know that's the climax that takes you to the height of the song. A song should take you from here
53:10
to there. You should be high or you should be in something smashing. You know what I'm
53:18
saying? And it should be great because you're at the peak of your sexual career. At least a modulation. A
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modulation. That's a bridge. A breakdown. You know those talk breakdowns that
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takes you to the vamp? Little champ. I don't even say vamps no more. Yeah, word. You don't say vamps. It's the end of it. The
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whole song is a vamp. It's like this. Speaking E language, look at him. Still can't get no pep. Nah, I
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love Bridges. And I feel like just the whole thing with R&B, if we don't come together, which I'm loving the
54:00
synergy now of R&B because they're bringing the R&B back from the 90s and the 80s. You know
54:08
what I'm saying? So I feel like it's gonna come around and you're gonna be like, yo, they doing bridges again. Yeah, I'm being a senior
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citizen home. Being an old folks home. Oh, you come back. Does the artist make the hit or does the hit make the artist?
54:25
The hit makes the artist. And that's the 1 thing that Michael Jackson say. He say, you're not a star until your music becomes 1. That's
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good. There's these clips going around of Pharrell talking about working with Michael Jackson and how most of the Justin Timberlake
54:43
justified album he had written for Michael. To go to Mike and Mike's people was like we don't want that soft shit We did that
54:51
already. We yeah, we did that been there done that we want Nori super dog That's true. I think
54:59
that's what Michael wanted but Michael didn't understand like Pharrell's like, cause you get in a room with a Pharrell,
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you never know, you're going to come out with something. And I just didn't think that he took the time, you know, and I'm speaking,
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you know, real, I mean, Michael's like my brother, but it's been songs that I've, like Joy, joy was supposed to be on Michaels album.
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Mm-hmm Wow, and it went to black street because you know when I did the song cuz Chelsea keep doing all the refs No, no, no, not he
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might Mike. He didn't charge him is this he was actually a Shoes working at my studio
55:42
while I was working with Michael because of He was with a label. He was actually signed to Damien. And I guess Damien
55:51
labeled in, you know, manifesto, it didn't go nowhere. They could have, look at that hand, right? They did it again. But
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you know, when that happened, Chauncey called me and asked for a job. And you know, I gave him a job. I didn't know what to do with him. Then I said,
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yo, you just come to the studio, work at the studio. Cause he didn't wanna go back, he didn't wanna come back to Jersey, so I gave him a job. And I
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was actually on my way going to work with Michael for a year and 3 months. So he worked at my studio that long when I came back. That's when we did Bobby and Whitney.
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So. He didn't have too many times working with somebody wack. Word. No, no. Yeah, I was, I was on a roll.
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Like I think while working with Bobby, I think the group All For 1 and some other groups, they wanted to work with me.
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And Clive Carter was like, when you come back, I have these projects, you know, and I said, man, I don't know, man. I don't know if I'm
56:52
gonna be able to do it because I'm working on Bobby, and then I spend like 6, 7 months with Bobby. Yeah, well, what the hell was all for 1 about it doing some
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teddy? We would've done some nice, We would've made some. It'll work, yeah. I took them out of the pop vein. I know
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that much. I swear. So I did high 5. I could've gave them something like that. Kissing game. I'm the world's biggest high
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5 fan. It would have been a nice game. But I wanted working with New Kids on the Block. Disrespectful to R&B to stay
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all for 1 in the same breath as high 5 but I'm gonna let it ride. Oh no, no I would never do that. I was just saying I could have gave them something like that. But I wound
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up working with New Kids on the Block and we did the Girls record and we did a few things together. And
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it felt good. They did pretty well with it. I keep thinking about this Michael Jackson stuff. He's such a misunderstood artist. What
57:49
does the world get wrong about him? His kindness. They get it wrong. And
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his personality and the things that he did that they didn't like. He
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did a lot of great things. He was saving the children. Y'all know what I'm talking about? He was saving the children.
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And they turned it around and made it look like he wasn't saving the children. He was doing something else, but that was the wrong thing Yeah,
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what do you say to that mark Makes sense. I agree. Let's go. I agree. No, can you speak to a lot of people
58:33
don't speak to how creatively he was involved? Because the perception is Mike was just a great dancer, but people have no idea how
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much of a writer he is, how much a producer he was. Can you speak a little bit more to that I think you spoke about it with a in the closet about
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how you guys even get to producing that record. Well did y'all know that he made the actual he made
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the actual beat of Jam. He
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gave me that, you know, from the MP. And when he gave that to me, I basically broadened it and added
59:14
to it and horns and all of that stuff and kind of formulate it but he does programming he does everything. 05I
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won't say greatest but Give me a few examples of some of the greatest R&B songs ever made. Like
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on the level of, it don't have to be produced by you. What year? Any year. Oh any year? Ever. Okay. Because we brought up Secret Garden,
59:48
that's on that list for me. Okay. Can you stand the rain? Nah, we can go deeper than that. Let's go with, I just
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called her, say I love you. Stevie. Easy like a Sunday morning Always
1:00:06
in forever Shining star you got nice little list Billy
1:00:16
Jean I'm gonna take you out somewhere. Y'all may not think but polite
1:00:31
Jackson Jackson Jackson I'm talking about great R&B where you feel
1:00:40
it and you feel it years later. Play that record when y'all get home. Y'all be like dang. My
1:00:48
last, you bring up polite, my last Michael Jackson question, I'll leave them all to Ian, Mark. Rank these albums for me.
1:00:56
Thriller, Off the Wall, Bad. Yes, please. It's a very common fight that we don't wanna see a few times. Gotta put Dangerous in there, he's involved in Dangerous. I don't have to put dangerous in there
1:01:04
No, leave that go ahead Damn Off the wall Okay,
1:01:13
I mean, thank you as a music person. That's what I and me as a person that loves R&B, Thriller wasn't
1:01:21
the R&B album. Thank you. And Bad definitely wasn't, cause it was leaning towards rock
1:01:29
and Pop yeah, that's what you said. That's what I said. My answer was bad No, I'm about bad being R&B. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No,
1:01:38
I said the same thing But yeah as far as the best album of Mike's catalog, huh? I have it as a decline I had it as off the wall then thriller
1:01:46
then bad in that order. Yeah Yeah, but in R&B if you want to say R&B it would be Dangerous. I think I brought him
1:01:54
back to R&B. For sure. We remember the time. And keep it in the closet, those records were R&B records. Was
1:02:02
it hard to shift the greatest pop artist ever and the biggest person in the world back to R&B? No. You know why? Because I did what I do. I'm not gonna
1:02:10
go pop for you. Not gonna do it. I'm gonna give you R&B. I'm gonna give you the best R&B according
1:02:18
to who you are. Because you have to look like your music. If you don't look like your music, you ain't gonna come across,
1:02:26
I knew Michael would look great during, remember the time. I knew he would look the best he would ever be. And I was asked,
1:02:34
like, what do I wear? King garb. On black and white? I said, okay, black and white
1:02:42
is a rock record. And he knew it. He said, I gotta give people, I gotta, you know, I gotta go where I left
1:02:50
off. And then I'll go into R&B. He gave me the whole play. I said, okay. So he said, so what should I wear? I said,
1:02:59
so if you're gonna do that, wear a t-shirt. Show your features. If you get into R&B, girls wanna see you,
1:03:07
like they wanna know what Michael look like. Not behind the, so you seen him with the ponytail. You know what I'm
1:03:15
saying, That's what LA, LA, the guys from the hood, they wear the ponytails. They got long hair, they gonna wear a ponytail. Was Mike a crip? I'll
1:03:25
tell you 1 thing, he wanted to be 1. He wanted to be 1. He had Uncle Mike take him through the hood.
1:03:34
Michael Jackson. He had Mike Conception take him through the hood. Why they don't ever believe me? We believe Teddy Riley, man. Nah,
1:03:43
I'm telling you. Nah, he had him Teddy good. Not Teddy Monny, we used to have Teddy Riley, boy. He took police runs with police just to
1:03:51
see them bus people. Yo, Michael's a wild boy. That's how crazy. I'm telling you, Michael got a little crazy
1:04:00
in him. Got enough money to do anything you want. He wanted to explore that. He wanted to explore hanging out in the hood. The
1:04:09
way that he feels about Mike is how I feel about Prince. OK. Are you familiar with that story about Mike setting Prince
1:04:17
up? Yeah. Did he set Prince up? Yeah, he did. I wouldn't call it a set up. Did you have it out for my man? You're talking about the on the stage, right?
1:04:25
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got the original VHS he gave to me. Prince, come up here. Would you do a little number? At the James Brown Show, yeah, yeah. He told me, we sitting in there. He said he had the original VJs.
1:04:34
I'm going to tell you the whole story because I can talk about it now. Thank you. I ain't got the non-disclosure no more. There we go. So Michael's
1:04:42
like, I want you to see something. I said, what you want me to see? He said, you know, I want to tell you about the time that Prince almost ran my whole
1:04:50
family over with his corvette. And I said, really? He said, yeah, but this is how it happened. I
1:05:00
said, what you gonna show me? He said, look, just look. He put the VHS in there. He said, you see, we
1:05:08
was at the James Brown concert and this happened and when I told him about Prince being
1:05:17
in the audience, Prince didn't like that. And then the whole thing just went sour for him. I was like-
1:05:25
Sour for him. Sour, fucking like. It's a funny word. So I'm sitting there looking at him, I was like, oh wow. So
1:05:33
what happened? He said, you know, me and my family's coming out backstage, and all we seen was a red Corvette. 00I
1:05:45
said, you know, he said, he said, yeah, and then, I'm going to tell you about the time we were supposed to do bad together. And
1:05:55
I asked him and you know, he wanted to do it and everything, but he didn't like the lyrics, Your body's
1:06:03
mine. But they were friends just like Biggie and Tupac. You
1:06:17
can't end it. Cause there's a lot more to it, man. I don't know how much time I have. I just, I'm trying to talk through the interview, you know. I don't know. If you're talking Prince Michael Jackson, you
1:06:25
can take all the time. Keep talking. But yeah, that's what happened. And I've been in the studio when they had conversations and you
1:06:33
know I thought they were gonna get together on the Dangerous Hours, I was feeling good like wow, I won't even have to be my song I just want to see them
1:06:41
get together. Because that would be turmoil. Like wouldn't y'all want today, what artists would y'all
1:06:49
want to see together today, like do something on a stage or on a record? Today? Currently?
1:06:58
Yeah. Active? Who would I want to see on a record together? Let me think about that
1:07:06
for a second. There's only 1 parallel for today, at least in hip hop. I'm
1:07:15
talking about singers. No, singers. I'm in R&B world, so I'm not. Let's stay in R&B. Yeah, I ain't thinking about the rapper people. I'm trying to think about the pair with Whitney Houston, but I can't think of nobody I'm Brian
1:07:23
immediately with boys are active so I didn't think anybody that passed away It's most likely gonna be Beyonce and someone else that yeah, I was thinking like figure
1:07:31
Beyonce would pair Traditionally it would be someone of that Okay, if I was if I had it my way, I would love to
1:07:40
see Brandy and Monica do something again. Okay. That's 1. I would love to see Chris
1:07:48
Brown and Usher. Oh. Again. That would be a missile. Yeah. Right? Yeah. But
1:07:57
they did a bunch together. They did the Chris Brown, It Depends remix. That's not a record. That's not
1:08:05
a record. I'm talking about like a bed of music. Anytime they got together, you're right, it's been a remix. The Back to Sleep remix. But now it's time.
1:08:14
That's not true. They got a song. They have 1 record together though. They have that 1 record, but if When I hear you speak
1:08:22
to that I think Beyonce and Chris Brown That's why I think at the moment I think 2 people that you would not expect to see on a record who you would think
1:08:30
it would be hard to get them together to make it happen. But you know, those 2 people on the record is, is, is going to be out there. When you say that,
1:08:38
you're talking about vocalists, right? Because we had, who do we have? Asap Rocky was here recently
1:08:46
and he was talking about how he kind of broke this here is that Alchemist was 1 of Rihanna's favorite producers. And
1:08:55
I was like, well, how does that sound? Like there's plenty of producers I would want to hear work with somebody. But vocally, I would want to hear
1:09:03
her plus whoever. Her I feel like comes in the studio session and is that today
1:09:13
version of I don't want to say Prince but there's a certain nostalgia that comes with her and her on the instruments and
1:09:21
her voice the tone her shit. She's everything. Yeah. She's everything. She did everything you know I'm saying like she can she's
1:09:29
tough yeah She can be in a room with anyone. Yeah, there's no session that I think she wouldn't add to. I think the same for Chris too. I
1:09:37
think he can be in a room with anybody. I think so too. Same thing with Asha. These are real stars. Yeah.
1:09:45
You know what I'm saying? And it took them a minute to get there but they made it there Do you think that I heard you say these are real stars couldn't
1:09:53
agree more does this? Does a star still exist today? And if so, what is it? What does it look like up here?
1:10:01
We talk well, I'd be talking about fucking what it means to be famous today versus famous
1:10:10
back in the day like real superstardom, not TikTok and Instagram and you popular and you stream. That's
1:10:18
exactly what they are. They don't need the TikTok. Real stars. What is that? It's their music it's back to the side. I said
1:10:26
back. It's the song back to the song Your song makes you the star and they have started on music They've
1:10:35
always been proven to you they prove to you I've seen Beyonce put out songs that people didn't even like in the beginning. Yeah. And next
1:10:43
thing you know, you're in love with the record. Same thing with Chris. Same thing with Usher. I've seen Usher
1:10:51
put out a record. LA Reid would snatch the record and put out Confessions. Remember that record he put out before
1:10:59
Confession? And still made it to the top number 1. Mm-hmm that started so Yeah,
1:11:10
I had a question I was just about to ask you know, I fucking forgot it what we just talking about it was something important The combos the the what we're
1:11:18
just talking about the pairings the pairings of artists They get and superstars like Michael Prantz. Who would you prefer? Today
1:11:26
I got so many questions. I want to ask him. It'll come back to me. Here's my last Michael Jackson question I know I said that earlier. How mad was Michael Jackson at
1:11:34
Cyndi Lauper? From the real world. He told me about that too. Did he text somebody on the side? He was a motherfucker. You see
1:11:42
how he looked at me? You said he told you about it. He was pissed. He talked to me about it. Michael really doesn't get mad mad,
1:11:50
but he's just like, because you've done it better. And stuff like that. But he wasn't
1:11:59
so mad. I think at that moment, his face looked like he wasn't feeling. He wasn't feeling a lot of things, like when the guy was singing off
1:12:07
and you know. Yeah. And this is his baby. When you got a song that's your baby and it's like you messing it up. Yeah. And
1:12:15
then he comes behind and add to the mess up. His face looked like he was furious about that shit. Oh yes. Now it's car crash. Him and Lionel.
1:12:23
Lionel was like, I don't know what to tell you Michael. I'm trying to help you out with this 1. And Quincy, you know, he's just
1:12:31
blatant. Who the hell got a bracelet on in this? You know, he was cursing out everybody. In
1:12:39
that vein, have you ever, and I don't even know who it was, but have you ever been in the studio with an artist and it just didn't work, or you were disappointed or you were like, they ain't got it. They sucked.
1:12:48
Yeah, and I thought they didn't get it. I can't tell you that. Yeah, I was. But I ain't going to tell you. I don't need to tell you. Don't tell. Did
1:12:56
a record come out of it? No. Scrap that. We're going to scrap that 1 out. We had to scrap that 1. And
1:13:04
he had to make another song. It was a song that was supposed to have been in a film. And we
1:13:13
only had 1 or 2 days to work on it. Can't polish turd in 1 or 2 days. We drilled him through it and next
1:13:21
thing you know he's like y'all who gonna tell him no I'm not gonna tell him you gonna tell him it's like well
1:13:29
that's your brother I was like okay I'll tell him and when I tell them you know I
1:13:37
don't think he took it well, but he went and did another song and it made the film. If there's if there's
1:13:45
a art, you gotta figure that out. My business. If there's an artist you get the opportunity to EP a project on
1:13:53
today. New, who ever? Come on. Stop, stop. I'm taking a break for a bit. Stop, guys. I'm talking about you. I did 1. 0,
1:14:02
you did? Yeah. I did an EP on March Day. It's coming out this summer. I can't wait for you out of here. And it was just something
1:14:10
that we tried and he wasn't trying to go back in the studio because he wanted me to just do a remix, which I'm doing
1:14:18
now. So I said, you know, I did all these records with him. And I said, I'll do the remix for you because they want to
1:14:26
do Oak Tree. So I'm doing a remix to Oak Tree for the anniversary. And then I said, alright, I'll give
1:14:34
you that. Let's put this album off for the summer because I think people are going to love it. I got Snoop Dogg on it, I got everybody. And it's 1 of those
1:14:43
albums I know that will bring him back, especially for a tour. I think it'll be something amazing. When you're doing new stuff, are
1:14:51
you still stuck? Do you still use old stuff or gear wise, technology wise? Do you still use old stuff or do you use all the new shit? Nah. Because
1:14:59
you know some guys just like fucking up and use the laptop. Plug-ins on, nah. I use the real. You still want to MP and all? Yeah. I'm the ambassador of Akai. Oh,
1:15:08
true. I just unveiled the new XL. Yeah. So, yeah, I use all
1:15:16
Keepers. You must have a massive fucking collection at this point. I do. A warehouse full of shit. I still
1:15:24
love my baseball cards. You know how we used to trade baseball cards back in the day? I still love my keyboards. Nice. I still got the old keyboard. I got stuff
1:15:32
that's discontinued. I'm sure. Shoulda you did hits on. Yeah. D550s and that stuff. I still
1:15:40
love that man. Nice. Is there anything about the new tech that you like even though you don't mess with it? Is there anything about it that you go, they're able to do something different than I did
1:15:50
when I started. I like Native Instruments and it's sad to see
1:15:59
them I don't think they're going out of business. I think somebody's going to buy them. Hopefully I'm able to be involved with that. There you go. But
1:16:08
Native Instruments have been everybody's favorite. So what I'd like to see is Native Instruments collab with Akai so
1:16:16
that we can have plugins in the drum machine. There you go. Which we already have now, but I think the whole collection should go in. It feels official, yeah, yeah, it makes sense.
1:16:26
But their keyboards and all of that stuff, I like their MIDI keyboards and that's the stuff. You know, I just hope they don't go away. I think
1:16:34
they're a huge company. It's just maybe, I don't know if it's mismanagement or anything, but everybody's in love with the Native
1:16:43
Instruments. It was a bad, once the investing companies get involved, they fucked it up. And somebody must have pulled a rug from them. So
1:16:52
that's the stuff I hate to see. You know, that's why I feel like integration is very important. Integration is very important. So these companies
1:17:00
need to get together. Yeah. Because everybody's selling the same thing, has the same language, you know what I'm saying? And you wind up having the same reverb
1:17:09
that this person have or the same microphone that this person have. If we have integration, then it could be something really huge for the gears
1:17:17
and for the software. So what's your stance on AI as far as right now, we're trying to integrate that with everything
1:17:26
musically? I think the AI that is out now, like the Sunos and all of that stuff, is going to get
1:17:34
a lot of people intertwined into beefs and troubles and lawsuits. Yeah. If they don't do it
1:17:42
right. Now the music people, the music colleges, it's easy to use. You use it as a tool. I need a guitar player, but I'm developing
1:17:50
a software right now that is going to help. And it's not from the algorithms of musicians. It's from the theory books. It's
1:18:00
from, you can't, you know what I'm saying? Wow. It's supposed to be. That's how it should be. And I truly think that it is, I truly think
1:18:08
that even Suno is from the algorithms. But you know, people will say, that's mine. That's mine. You know, I truly don't think that
1:18:17
if you put something in, suno, and it's your vocal, it takes your vocal and sing it another way or put another
1:18:25
female vocal on it. That's not stealing. That's your vocal. And that's your writing. But let them tell it.
1:18:34
All they're trying to do is gatekeep your music making. And that's why I would
1:18:42
encourage musicians, if they're gonna use it, replay it. If you're 1 that's just putting like how you drop the needle
1:18:50
and that's your record. No, that's exactly what Suno is. Right. It's like you dropping the needle and you just taking the record. You just
1:18:58
taking whatever they give you. But if you're a musician and you're a singer, use it for ideas. You can use it for ideas. Say
1:19:06
I need string player. Then you get your brother over here to play it over. The same way that people, when they're using it for business reasons, like writing up letters
1:19:15
or whatever like that, you still gotta go through and proofread it and change it to make it be right. Do the same shit with music though. Yep. Yep. That's my take on it. But
1:19:23
the 1 that we're developing, you can actually, like with Suno, they're going to give you a whole band. They're going to give you a whole
1:19:31
thing. They're not going to separate it because when you separate you're gonna hear. Yeah Oh, that's You're gonna hear that so, you know
1:19:40
That code is gonna come through and then YouTube is gonna read and say no you use an AI And they're gonna read it names of you
1:19:48
use an AI You use in my voice and Then that stops you from getting paid. Yeah. Yeah, all that shit is a potential. But
1:19:56
if you're doing it from the software that we're using, which is Ace Studios. There you go. Ace Studios, you can do a beat box.
1:20:05
It's going to come back at you the way you put it in. And you just tell them what type of drums you want. You can even type in it. Lyrics, right?
1:20:13
You can type the lyrics, play the chords, and it'll play harmonies. That's fire. Or you can play a single note
1:20:21
or you play melody. Put the type it in and it'll come back to you
1:20:29
as a what's-name and you can do the like the algorithms where it can give you runs or it can yeah, you know finesse the note So
1:20:39
that's what that does and unlike, you know, so no 1 give you what they want And ilio as well. Mm-hmm. I
1:20:47
know earlier you mentioned your family trust. Have you left strict instructions to your children
1:20:58
with how this thing should operate at all times, whether I'm here or not? It's like is there a list of artists that, hey when
1:21:06
they call to clear some of this shit, tell them to fuck off or. No, no I'm not. Or like I heard you say you have 100% of your publishing.
1:21:15
That's never on a table like I'm never so now. Yeah, like I'm not there you go. Well, what if they want to They don't have to
1:21:30
I'm just keeping it real. They don't have to That's nice. You don't have to I Catalog how much that
1:21:38
catalog is worth they got to be calling you every week to try to get their hands on that What if they go after jeans? Can't
1:21:50
I can't do it for my food is I can't do it. What happens when I'm gone, it's on them
1:21:58
but I don't think they're gonna have to because I'm just I'm just setting them up you know yeah it ain't gonna be none
1:22:07
of that I don't need to sell that off yeah yeah and do it now everybody man get into private trust get
1:22:15
into family private foundations Save you What do you think about people selling their life rights?
1:22:24
I don't do that neither You selling life rights? You're not supposed to sell a story right see people think you sell a life rights,
1:22:32
you gone. It's like you can't do nothing. You're selling life rights. This is your whole life. That means you need
1:22:40
permission to even make dolls because you done gave the rights to the person sold to. It's
1:22:49
a new thing now, and it's been a thing. You sell the story rights. That's a difference between selling the life
1:22:57
right. So people have been trying to, like somebody from Atlanta, tried to steal my rights, you know, taking meetings and they took a meeting with the wrong
1:23:06
person. They took a meeting with Jimmy Iovine. Jimmy Iovine. Get the F out of my office. Literally, him and Larry Jackson
1:23:14
told the person, we pass because we don't believe that Teddy Raleigh sold his rights to you.
1:23:23
Yeah, it's good to know. Literally. Good to have some relationships. So yeah, the relationships really pay off, especially if
1:23:31
you're good to that person. And I've been nothing but good to everybody. And all I expect back is just good.
1:23:39
Well most people, some people out there, when Guy 1.0, see Guy 2.0. Guy 1.0.
1:23:48
You're gonna be in trouble. Boy, I'm so stupid, yo. Yo, it's so crazy, man. I love them
1:23:56
guys, man, but I just really feel they don't have the same love. And I'm tired of, you know, see, you
1:24:04
deal with people in your circle, they're not there for good. You gotta deal with people in your corner. Circle
1:24:13
and corner's 2 different things. You know what I'm saying? You want the corner. Yeah, for sure. He's just too smart. Yeah, that's the truth. Smallest
1:24:22
man. That's a really good way to put it. That's the truth, because you got people in your circle and you're like, they there, they're constituents. You
1:24:31
need confidence. People who's going to be like, rock with you. Yo, you lost it, I got you. No matter what. I got
1:24:39
those people. I can't. You see those guys over there? They've been with me over 20 years. We're
1:24:47
almost 40 years. That's my sensei right there Gang gang gang So that's salute.
1:24:55
That's what it is. You know, they I can leave my children with them and I have But you don't have that,
1:25:04
like when you're dealing with people who's in it just for their gain and not the gain of the team.
1:25:12
Yep. You gotta get away from those people quick. I'm telling you all right now. And that's the reason why some of these groups have broken up because
1:25:20
they realized that I had to deal with a corner, man, because I keep dealing with these circles. It ain't working for me. It's like
1:25:28
every time I turn my back, they biting your back out. I don't want to deal with that. I'm gonna be 60 this year. I
1:25:36
was just about to ask you how old I am. I'm not trying to deal with that. Your skin looks amazing. This is the time of the truth. So
1:25:45
set you free. Like yo, tell the truth. Like, you know how before when we used to play You know be players and all that stuff and
1:25:53
we've live No more lying There were no reason to After you hit 50, if you're a liar,
1:26:02
hang it up. So you never did none of that, right? No. Okay. I don't know nothing about that. You're 50 though. He don't want his 50 here. He just turned 50, so. He's 50, so.
1:26:12
I hope you... Nah, lying is... Welcome to the 50 Club. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. His hair's coming back too, though, too. And you're on luck, baby. Now, that's yours, man.
1:26:20
That's your hair coming back. You're a hater. Yeah, I can't believe that this guy casually said, me and my wife were going through something.
1:26:28
So I went and wrote, remember the time. Mm-hmm. Just randomly. I'm not over that. Nah, it's the truth. It's the truth. Do
1:26:36
you remember? It's so crazy. When I thought I was going to lose her, I wrote, let's chill. Alright,
1:26:45
now you get mad. What? That's what I want to do. Literally. I came
1:26:53
up with the whole thing, I was like, oh this is, it's gonna keep my relationship. She tired of my shit. No
1:27:02
seriously man, it was that record for me. You weren't in the studio when they was writing Don't Be Afraid, were you? Ah, with no ways around it.
1:27:11
Smart man. Yo, what's up with you, yo? What's up with you? Why you just looking for bars? Yo, what's wrong with you, yo? This is the only time
1:27:19
in life I'm gonna see in front of Teddy Riley, and get to ask him anything that my music never bring me. So I'm going for it. That's a
1:27:27
fact. That's a fact. You gotta ask. I think I've covered everything. I can't wait to read this. I cannot wait to read this. Because I know you're full of
1:27:35
stories that you're too cool to share. Hopefully they're in here. They are, they are. You know, my guy who wrote it with
1:27:43
me, and he's seen my frustration, but he's also seen the person that I am. I would
1:27:51
never say it. So I let him write it. I gave him my feelings about it and he put it in words for me.
1:28:01
Sometimes it's hard to really tell a person, you know, you did me wrong. You know what I'm saying? So
1:28:09
you have to write it. I waited so many years to write this. We had this book for 12 years. Damn. And I said, it's not time.
1:28:17
I deal on spiritual timing. And I felt like spiritually This is the time, you know, and actually Today
1:28:26
today's the second anniversary of my mother passing And this is the reason why I chose this day to release it. So,
1:28:35
you know, I'm celebrating her right now. I'm celebrating my children, my family, and staying
1:28:44
blessed, you know, walking the straight line. When you're walking the straight line, you ain't gotta answer too many questions on judgment day There you go.
1:28:52
You're like, what did you do in my honor? Yeah Oh, yeah All right. I just have
1:29:00
4 final questions All Michael Jackson related Shoot shoot Do you have a? Favorite
1:29:09
studio session of all time Do you have a favorite one-hit wonder of all time? See
1:29:18
what you're trying to do Can Stevie Wonder see? And did you happen to catch Bad Bunny
1:29:26
for the Super Bowl halftime show? And if so your thoughts. Those are my final 4 questions. If y'all have some feel free. That's great. I'm good. Okay. It's been amazing. I'll answer them all,
1:29:34
don't worry. So you said, do I have the first 1? Favorite session or? Okay, my favorite session, My
1:29:45
favorite session was Johnny Kemp. Just got paid. Yeah. Because Johnny Kemp, his band and my band were
1:29:53
rivalries. We were in bands, also with Keith Sweat. Keith Sweat had Jamila. Johnny
1:30:02
was in a group called Kinky Fox and I was in a group called Total Climax and we used to kind of do the whole New York circuit. We played in every
1:30:10
bar and just to know that Johnny is just as great as he is on stage, he's in the studio, he's the same way. He
1:30:19
don't really hit any off notes. And if he do, you would never notice it. So he's my favorite 1 hit wonder.
1:30:28
OK, that's 2 birds with 1 stone. There you go. Rest in peace to Johnny Kent, man. He's the best, man. So
1:30:37
the other 1 is? Can Stevie Wonder see? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was just with Stevie Wonder a week and a half ago.
1:30:46
And I was on this side of him, and nobody whispered to him, Teddy's right next to you. He
1:30:54
said, hey boy, what you doing? And he just grabbed me and looked at me, like his eye just
1:31:02
looked my way. I'm like, it's nothing blocking him, blocking his eye from seeing
1:31:10
the shadow. So I'm saying shadow. I feel he can see the shadow of the
1:31:18
person. I get it. I get it. That makes sense. That's seeing something. That's seeing something. Yeah. That's seeing.
1:31:26
And Bad Bunny. And my final question was Bad Bunny, the Super Bowl halftime show. Did you see it? Did you love it? What did you think? I seen it. I like it. Love
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it. I think it, you know, I thought it was good. And the reason why I thought it was
1:31:44
good because this is the first time, you know, the culture have changed this year
1:31:52
for Latino music. You know, my father's Panamanian. So Latino
1:32:01
music means, I mean, I remember you was telling me, I don't know nothing about Romeo Santos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got him on speed now. Oh, shit. That's
1:32:09
stupid. Flexing. Look for your ass. Look at you, see what you do? Look what you do, bitch. Flexing, bitch. Stupid. I got you on speed now,
1:32:18
man. You got it, you got it. No, Teddy Riley is the big, yo. No, I do, because Rami and Sanchez, we've been talking about doing something together, and I said,
1:32:26
I want to learn Spanish totally, because that's the 1 thing I had against my father, because he's not in my life like that and I felt
1:32:35
like I needed that so that I can know Spanish and but I Have somebody in my life now. She's
1:32:43
Colombian and and I'm I'm learning I'm learning as I go. That's the best way to do it. And she's
1:32:51
my life, my rock, man. And the things I need to know, she gonna tell me. For sure. That's
1:32:59
right. So, but yeah, I did like it. I like it, but I felt like something was missing and
1:33:08
I felt like What's his name? Is it Ricky Ricky Martin Ricky Martin should
1:33:16
have done Yes, he should have done that And I felt like Cardi B should have done a song with
1:33:25
her. Their joint. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got it. Well, they did. That was the only thing that I was disappointed about that. I liked it like that before, so that it would have had to have been a Cardi
1:33:33
Solo song. They did... I'm kind of disappointed that to some degree Bruno didn't do the record with Lady Gaga.
1:33:41
Yes. He's Latino. Yes. People don't know that. People still... He's trying to hide it. I know but... He said he a wine boy. All right. You
1:33:49
over there wearing some pop. It would have came off big. Yeah. If he was just at that. If you had. It was those little flavors, you know. Like
1:33:57
everything else he did, he bought the party. He did. He did. He bought the party. It was a vibe. But if he would have bought Puno
1:34:05
on that stage and he would have bought Cardi. Cardi, yo. That would have been the Latino culture,
1:34:13
like coming out from all different angles, you know? True, true. Fair's true. If you were able to put next year's halftime
1:34:22
show together, who would you put? You already know. Chris Brown. Come on.
1:34:31
Chris Brown. And all his entourage, like whoever he bring is going to be fired. Whatever
1:34:40
he decide, it's going to go. Even if it's hip hop, it's going to go. If he brought Busta, it's going to go.
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I think he would bring so much to that stage, then it would feel like when Michael did it. All right, I know you have to go, you're people
1:34:57
to stand up. My final 2 questions, really quickly, really quickly. No, I got it, I got it. Real quick, real quick. There's a clip of Kelly Rowland saying
1:35:05
that on the song 1 Plus 1, Beyonce didn't pronounce algebra with the R. She said, I
1:35:13
don't know much about algebra. And they played it and she's really saying that. But I felt like that made that line like genius
1:35:22
because she's saying I don't know much about it. I don't think it was a mistake. I don't think so neither. I think it's totally
1:35:31
creativity. You and you are a writer, you're a poet, you can say what you want. Look at Michael look over your shoulders a lot of records
1:35:39
I understand of it like his lyric but he really wasn't pronouncing anything mm-hmm like don't do don't do true
1:35:50
hardest shit you ever and it's like yo you went for it. And you repeated it. And my last question. Lastly,
1:35:59
there's some going on the internet that says, you are not a real adult until you realize that Drew Hill,
1:36:08
5 Steps don't make any sense at all. Do you know that song? Now what they're saying is,
1:36:16
we were 5 steps from eternity, 4 steps, and 3 wishes, but it never got to 2 and 1. And
1:36:25
people are saying, what the fuck are they talking about? I think that's another 1 of like those algebra things. Yeah, Yeah, it is, it is. Like
1:36:34
I said, when you... What? When you make, when you create something, it's your
1:36:42
creation. And it's, the fans will follow it. And they're going to sing it the way it is. So
1:36:50
it's your creation. You can't tell or ask any questions. Why didn't y'all say 2 in 1? It's like why people think that Aaron
1:36:58
Hall saying dumb bitch when he's not, he's not, he's not,
1:37:07
and you know that He's scattin'. So that's the thing. People gonna make it what they want and
1:37:15
they're gonna figure out the 2 and the 1 on their own. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I just feel like they meant so close but so far. Yeah, like but they killing
1:37:24
drew Anyway, listen audience as you can tell I have been Delighted I can't I can't sing this man's praises enough.
1:37:33
The book, Remember the Time, Teddy Riley, 1 of the greatest musicians. We're honored to share Earth and have heard this man's
1:37:41
creations. So be clear on that. Please make some noise, Teddy Riley. Yeah, man! Woo! And thank you. Brother Joe and the
1:37:50
crew, I appreciate y'all having me here and anytime y'all want us to come back, we'll come back and, you know, but this has been really
1:37:58
great. I thought I'd never make it to your show. Make that Babyface concert go down. We need to see that. I want to pull up for that. Listen, I would love to do
1:38:06
it. That's why I keep talking about it. When you come back. You gotta call somebody out. That's how we do it for New York. New York or Jersey, we gonna call
1:38:14
you out. Well, our door's always open. When you come back, I'm gonna have an XL or something hooked up. Oh yeah. Let's do it. Listen, I
1:38:23
keep telling my crew, just tell them to have a keyboard, a vocal cord. Y'all can ask me questions about that all day. Oh my god,
1:38:32
next time. It was a thing about Dr. Dre, you know, not playing a drum machine. I don't know if y'all seen that. It's
1:38:40
like, have Dr. Dre ever played a drum machine or hit the pads or whatever? And I said, I'm the 1 that fought for him because I seen him play.
1:38:48
I seen him play. He's a classical player. Yeah. But why people always do that? Hate. So that's why I always say,
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yo, bring a keyboard. Put me on the spot. Bring a keyboard. I'm turning green. If you ever come back here again. Should we gonna have a jam?
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Yeah. I'll make a beat in front of y'all. I'll bring some play cards over. I'll bring some play cards. Bring
1:39:14
some cards. We'll do that too. I done took a lot of people money. A lot of people. Nah, this is what we do. I shoot
1:39:22
dice, I shoot, let's do it. I like having fun, man. My thing is, I'm not the other side,
1:39:30
you know. My thing is, I like to have fun. This is what we used to do. So let's do it. Thank y'all so much, man.
1:39:39
Appreciate it. Let me start clapping. He started clapping
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like we were the Grammys. Sorry, sorry, sorry. And we're back. And we are back.
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-> 100:04.700] Man, in 1 of my more enjoyable interviews, I want to say this year, but the year just started, period, that man. That's up there, though. Yeah, no, he's talking. Yeah.
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[100:05.300 --> 100:13.360] I'm such a music guy that talking and people like that talk to Teddy Riley for 6 for the rest of the week Yeah for the rest of the week
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[100:13.440 --> 100:21.820] like Then he got the nerve to when the interview was over and
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[100:21.820 --> 100:31.380] he's walking out, he says to me, you know a lot of years ago man, I was looking for you trying to get some tracks to you. You
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[100:31.380 --> 100:39.440] gotta get the fuck outta here. Now you gotta go. You still want those tracks? To listen to the jam. Yeah, nigga,
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[100:39.440 --> 100:47.860] let me hear them shit. Nah, fuck that. You come out for Teddy Riley, y'all. But sure, you pop out. Too much pressure. Nah, Ain't no such
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[100:47.980 --> 100:56.180] thing. Shit, that sound like pressure to me. Since when you run from pressure? Pause. Well, you would produce. Yeah, he's
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[100:56.180 --> 101:04.180] a producer. He not about to let you puttin' over here. Exactly. It's not happening. Yeah, him and LL was that for me. We talked to people like
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[101:04.180 --> 101:12.360] that. LL was, LL for sure for me. That's still number 1. Sometimes those conversations are hard because you want to like really dig into shit but it's like people aren't gonna
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[101:12.360 --> 101:20.380] really, no, people aren't gonna really even be able to follow. Like this podcast isn't specific enough for like production questions, you know what I'm saying?
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[101:20.380 --> 101:28.520] Like even when we started getting out for a minute I was like, I like that. I like when you all do that. I love it, but I think we're just gonna lose people.
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[101:28.520 --> 101:36.600] Yeah, I'm looking at it. I had some fans hit me a few weeks ago and just for mentioning the Triton. It's like, yeah,
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[101:36.600 --> 101:44.840] get new music nerd back. A lot of people wanna hear that shit. They do, they do. A lot of people do. Dog, I'm sitting here looking at the nigga. And
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[101:44.840 --> 101:53.640] I'm 50. He got money, right? I'm 50. And I know that nigga older than me. That nigga look young as shit, dawg. Yeah.
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[101:53.800 --> 102:02.460] Yeah, he do. That nigga look young. I'm like, yo, he by far older than me. That nigga skin all that shit. He look young as shit. I'm like, damn. I
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[102:02.460 --> 102:10.840] would say by far, don't joke it. That nigga 10 years older than me. So I'm like, damn. You look young too though. You do. I appreciate it. But
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[102:10.840 --> 102:18.880] he- And you looking younger and younger, man. Your hair's growing back. Black don't crack, huh? And the slim jeans. You all looking young. How come when I'm the only 1, when I compliment
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[102:18.900 --> 102:26.940] you, you do that, you do all that. I really mean it, you know what I'm saying to you? We love you. That nigga do not compliment you. From me though, specifically. He'll
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[102:26.940 --> 102:34.960] let Ice compliment him. Why you think that is? I see the tip of your head like it's showing.
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[102:35.140 --> 102:43.300] They don't mean that coming from Freeze. Look at his head. Yo. This nigga's crazy. Yo, cause when Freeze compliment him, he feel like Freeze mean
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[102:43.300 --> 102:51.460] that shit. When I do it, it's like he feel like it's just a diss. We gotta break out of that, baby. 1 day, it's never gonna happen.
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[102:51.460 --> 102:59.580] I ain't dissing this nigga no more. It's all good. All right. Ain't nothing to diss him about. He look, don't miss your lips. Don't mess, cause he was on
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[102:59.580 --> 103:07.720] the side before. Yeah, he on some old nigga shit. I had texted my moms and
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[103:07.720 --> 103:16.180] was like, yo, Teddy Riley here. I'll be letting her know we're up here. She was like, oh my God, yes, Rump Shaker. I was like, yo, my girl, off my phone. That's great. Yeah,
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[103:16.180 --> 103:24.380] yeah. Don't talk about rumps with me, boy. More than that. It's mad up here. Zoom, zoom, zoom. I don't wanna, that's where you went. All right, you know what? I'm good. Peace. You know,
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[103:24.380 --> 103:32.420] it's nothing wrong with it. I don't need to, I don't need to. Mama had a life before you was born. I was born when that was out, nigga. Oh, shit, my bad. But she had a life. What the
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[103:32.420 --> 103:40.420] fuck is she talking about? Mama had a life when you was born, nigga. Hey, mama lit. I know you don't want to hear it, but. My nigga don't want to hear it. I told y'all
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[103:40.420 --> 103:48.880] when she told me when we did the freaknik shit of the doc, she was like, yo, if they do 1 on, what's this shit?
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[103:48.880 --> 103:57.000] Virginia Beach, Myrtle Beach? No, Virginia Beach, Joe, Virginia Beach. Not Joe Beach. Greek Fest, Greek Fest. Oh, Greek Fest. If they do this shit on Greek Fest, don't watch it.
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[104:00.520 --> 104:09.440] Excuse me? Yeah, if they do that 1, don't watch it. So where do you think you got, like, your inside the house gene from? Me.
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[104:10.660 --> 104:26.820] Cause your brother was outside, mom's lived her life. The light bulb. Your dad was him. I already been on his Wikipedia, but you While
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[104:26.820 --> 104:35.280] we were recording mad music announcements came out what happened I seen a couple album announcements Key was he did say maybe
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[104:35.460 --> 104:45.180] King. Yeah, what the fuck? You
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[104:45.180 --> 104:53.640] play that for Teddy? Teddy, Teddy, Teddy, Teddy. What you gonna do with this? You want remix? You want remixing? This nigga's
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[104:54.860 --> 105:02.900] crazy. Now Hold
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[105:02.900 --> 105:10.980] up now, Teddy Riley pumping up remix might go. Apparently somebody on TikTok put all of us as a cartoon. In a video game. It's a video
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[105:10.980 --> 105:19.040] game. Oh, I see. I've seen that. I haven't seen that. That shit was going around. Let me see what this is here.
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[105:19.040 --> 105:28.164] There's a lot
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[105:31.976 --> 105:40.880] of people. Sound
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[105:40.880 --> 105:49.300] like Keem. I want to say it's somebody sound like Kendra. I don't know I'm in. I'm in. For this LBC. Peace.
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[105:49.400 --> 105:57.620] I keep my steaming if I'm in this bitch and I'm ready to crash out. I'm holding resentment, my mama so petty, she looking in back at her stash house. I packed out the building, if you at the show, then that mean
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[105:57.620 --> 106:05.980] that you ready to black out. Sounds dope. That sounds fun. That sounds absolutely crazy. It also sounds like Kendrick should be on there. Well, he's on the
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[106:07.580 --> 106:15.680] album. Baby King put the track list out, and Kendrick is featured on the album. The album is called Casino, and it comes out on February 20th.
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[106:16.520 --> 106:25.740] 12 songs. And Good Flirts, which is track 4 features Kendrick Lamar and Momo Boyd. 2 Short is on there. Those
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[106:25.740 --> 106:34.000] are the only features that I see right now. And we have here Jack Harlow's new album announced. Monica, March
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[106:34.120 --> 106:42.140] 13th. I know there's some people out there that are excited about that. We'll see how that goes as well. That's all the
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[106:42.140 --> 106:50.140] new music announcements I have written down here, but. We're waiting to see how long it takes for Jack Harlow to start doing our country music or something That's where you think he's at
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[106:50.140 --> 107:01.420] with it. That's why I think all them eventually go off to white people Yeah, I'm still here Post
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[107:01.420 --> 107:09.700] Malone body you trade that some Timberlands for some cowboy boots? You judge me? That is crazy. Jokes for weeks. Post Malone
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[107:09.700 --> 107:17.720] body, the grand reason, I heard. He did. You consider that body? Yeah, good job. He did good. He did good. I didn't say he did bad. I liked the Post
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[107:17.720 --> 107:26.640] Malone Bud Light commercial during the Super Bowl. I did forget about that 1. That was pretty funny Coming
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[107:26.640 --> 107:34.660] to the game and get through certain way and then make it that full transition I
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[107:34.660 --> 107:42.660] mean, that's that mean that's life though, right? You get into something and then you end up doing what you really wanna do. Whatever gets you into the door, you get into the door. It depends. It
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[107:42.660 --> 107:50.660] can come off nasty if it's not done right. Yeah, hell yeah. To me it does. A lot of people do that in life though, Pox. I agree, it just depends on the- You find a way
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[107:50.660 --> 107:58.780] to get into somewhere, and then you end up doing, when you get the money or whatever, the fame, you do what you actually want to do. It's a lot of artists that do that. I agree. There's
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[107:58.780 --> 108:07.020] a way to do it right, and there's a way to do it wrong though. Yeah, well, what if you do it, you get to a certain point, and I just want to do something else I don't see like well
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[108:07.020 --> 108:15.180] where my problem comes is when you act like you ain't even never did that before that's You don't rock with nobody from that genre anymore That's when I have
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[108:15.180 --> 108:23.320] the problem because now look like you just use them as a springboard to get over here. It's not just music though. It's the dress up, it's the language. It's a lot of things. The people you're hanging around with, all that shit. It's a lot
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[108:23.320 --> 108:32.420] that goes into just walking into an industry, walking into a certain genre, a certain way, and then you totally just annihilate
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[108:32.500 --> 108:40.520] the image of all that to go to some real shit. What do you say to the person that attempts to come in that way and it don't work and then it works
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[108:40.520 --> 108:48.900] when they come in the other way? I'm thinking of Jelly Roll for example. Jelly Roll, yes, that's a little bit different. I'm asking A, what do you say to that? So the way he attempted
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[108:49.200 --> 108:57.440] to come into the game and that ain't really do nothing for him and now he comes in this way and it's working for him. I think there's unique cases I also do think that there are people
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[108:57.440 --> 109:05.460] I'm not saying Post Malone and a few other people aren't multifaceted and don't have a have talent to just not stick to our thing. But I don't
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[109:05.460 --> 109:13.500] know, I guess Jelly Roll will be a unique situation where I can understand it to a certain degree. But a couple of other people. See the reason why I never
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[109:13.500 --> 109:21.760] have a problem with Post Malone when he do it is because he don't shun hip hop. I haven't seen him like, he'll still work with, he's worked with niggas
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[109:21.760 --> 109:29.920] and it, I think of like a Miley Cyrus, who jumped on that hip hop wave for a minute. Why
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[109:29.920 --> 109:38.020] I'm speaking on her too, yeah. And then now you don't see none of that shit no more. It's almost like that ain't happen. I ain't do none of that. You see how I look, I'm over
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[109:38.020 --> 109:46.080] here with them and I'm back here. Yo bro, tell these bros about the time I robbed that nigga
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[109:46.080 --> 109:54.280] for his helicopter. I was the only nigga with a helicopter in the hood, nigga. The Earth flying over the projects, dropping money bags
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[109:54.280 --> 110:02.360] and diamonds down on the people. Showing love. That's how I move, right son? Yo bro,
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[110:02.360 --> 110:10.480] tell these broads about it. Yo, I love this. I'm sorry, I'm a bird. I wouldn't do that shit with that. What's funny is, we know somebody
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[110:10.480 --> 110:18.500] like that. I came through with the Lamborghini, hopped out, shot like 14 niggas. Word no shirt on, big
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[110:18.500 --> 110:28.060] stupid Cuban link on. Word with the 8 pages hitting that, everything in the niggas' projects, that's the old projects, you know what I'm saying? Niggas.
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[110:28.060 --> 110:38.640] Y'all didn't even want your shot. Yeah, we know a few niggas like no no, this is great somebody I
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[110:38.640 --> 110:47.420] know I do know a few niggas like that. Y'all right. You can't say what is So
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[110:47.420 --> 110:55.440] also breaking news artists came out while we were recording Isaiah Stewart is reportedly facing a long term ban following the Pistons
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[110:55.440 --> 111:03.480] Hornets brawl. League sources cite 3 key factors, bench violations, Stuart illegally
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[111:03.480 --> 111:11.580] entered the court from the sidelines. All Nick fans should want that to happen. Just because of what happened to us back in that Miami series. That's where
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[111:11.580 --> 111:19.660] it stemmed from. Yes, absolutely. PJ Brown dumped Charlie Warden's head. They fought so many
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[111:19.660 --> 111:27.820] times. I don't remember which fight it was. That's the shit went up. No, no, no, no, no, no. And that shit was before that. Ben Gunter, Larry Johnson and Ben Gunter. Yeah,
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[111:27.820 --> 111:36.020] yeah, yeah. And then Pat and them niggas ran off the bench. We was up in the series the best of 5. And then they canceled all our starters for getting
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[111:36.020 --> 111:44.040] off the bench. And that's never happened to nobody else. It's never happened to nobody else. Afterwards either? Yeah. It was a couple niggas. I remember.
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[111:44.040 --> 111:52.340] I'm not in no playoff game where it mattered. No there was a second 1. I can't remember what it was. It was a series, because the nigga stacked his foot over the line. Yeah, it was some bullshit. And they suspended some niggas.
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[111:52.340 --> 112:00.420] Spurs. Yeah, it was. And put their feet over the line. I remember that. So you're not allowed to get off the bench. You're gonna have to end the game. No, you cannot leave the bench, bro. You can't.
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[112:00.440 --> 112:08.660] Hopefully they suspend him for the playoffs of physical escalation I'm not scared. I mean
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[112:08.660 --> 112:17.000] Detroit look good though video show Stewart throwing punches at Miles Bridges and he's a repeat offender The NBA is taking a 0 tolerance stance. Oh, yeah, they're gonna Stewart's history of altercation.
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[112:17.200 --> 112:25.340] They're gonna smoke him. Repeat offender, you left the bench, so he won't even out there. 25. But then he don't help himself afterward in the interview. Doing the dancing,
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[112:25.340 --> 112:33.560] no shit. In the interview, he's like, what did they expect me to do from the bench? Like if they didn't want that, they should've drafted me. Wait, what? Oh, 0,
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[112:33.560 --> 112:41.680] okay. So, yeah. Is that the way you see it? It's a little crazy. Got it, got it, got it. Yeah, that's all I have for news that was breaking and any
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[112:41.680 --> 112:49.700] of that shit. It's what was your front in lives when you were younger? Did you talk like that? Like how that nigga
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[112:49.700 --> 112:57.760] talk? Like give me, you didn't have to front. Everybody front in their life. What was like some of your front? Did you like park the car off the block and then act like you
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[112:57.760 --> 113:05.860] was going to the store to wait for the girl to walk past? Park the van. Like you saw the girl down the block, you parked up and just act like you had a flat
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[113:05.860 --> 113:14.060] tire just to talk. Oh, I do some dumb shit like that. Act like you would. Act like you're looking in the trunk. Yeah. Hey,
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[113:14.060 --> 113:22.740] how you doing? Stupid shit. It's your crazy ass. I do some shit like that. I wasn't doing that. Oh, you call me too. No lying shit. Okay,
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[113:22.740 --> 113:31.140] you never had the lie to get the box? Of course. Not them kind of lies. What's the best lie? What's your go-to lie to get some box?
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[113:31.460 --> 113:39.660] You gotta evaluate the person. I just bought the building on 46th Street, nigga. And I sold it. I brought it and sold it. You see Times Square? That was
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[113:39.760 --> 113:47.780] X square. I promise you, I don't know Joe, yo. Oh, yo. Hey, yo. Yo, what's up with you, man? Yo, What's up with you, bro? You want to
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[113:47.780 --> 113:56.020] start with me? Y'all heard me? Oh. It's my first word. It's a good mic, too. Picked up every word.
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[113:56.020 --> 114:04.080] Yeah, yeah. But hold on. What's the thing about these mics? Niggas say that. The girls be knowing, The girls be knowing that niggas know what they're doing. I don't think that ever matters. Yeah, they just do what
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[114:04.080 --> 114:12.080] they want to do. If a girl wanna fuck 2 niggas, you go fuck 2 niggas. Yeah. They just wanna hear you say that line. That shit don't matter. It's a temp check. They wanna see you got a problem with it. I don't know that
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[114:12.080 --> 114:20.220] matter. Yeah. They said it's just the cleanup there. They said it's
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[114:20.220 --> 114:28.260] the cleanup. I thought I heard the streets. Yeah, that's what they said. Back in the day they said you was the cleanup. I don't know what that means. What's the cleanup? What that mean? He don't know
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[114:28.260 --> 114:36.300] either. He making up some shit. Go ahead though, I wanna hear it. All right, well I don't wanna be, cause you my man, I'm trying to dress it up nice. You don't got to. Clean up to me would
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[114:36.300 --> 114:44.340] be like, you know, if when a nigga put it out all is done with it, you come and clean it up. Oh shit. That's what that is. I didn't
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[114:44.340 --> 114:52.500] want to say you go behind niggas, I just wanted you to clean up. The funny thing is, he did try to make it sound good. That was absolutely awful.
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[114:52.500 --> 115:00.700] And didn't. For real? No, that wasn't good. The word clean up is... He said when niggas done with it and put it out there, you come behind them. Clean up hitter. Like DH, Like
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[115:00.700 --> 115:08.700] you just come hit and go after niggas doing the job. I didn't tell him that. He heard that in the street. This has nothing
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[115:08.700 --> 115:16.760] to do with me. You don't think Flip heard that in the streets about us? Flip heard that. This is
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[115:16.760 --> 115:25.060] what you do in the vlog. We left you alone. That nigga's like the killer B's right now. That nigga. All right, I heard it, but I don't know where it heard from. Get it on his own, of course.
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[115:25.240 --> 115:33.460] Oh, man. That's what Flip is. That's what Flip is. Listen, I talk Teddy Robbins, I'm cool today man. I ain't whining about shit here.
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[115:33.460 --> 115:41.600] I love it. The day was good right? Yeah the day was fine man. I don't have nothing that needs, needs to just end up getting all my questions off. I
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[115:41.600 --> 115:49.800] like to see you in fan mode or supporter mode. You ain't wanna let that nigga go? Just tell the Corey. Nigga ain't wanna leave. He said 5
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[115:49.800 --> 115:57.880] minutes, Corey. Yeah, he was chilling. He ain't wanna leave. He ain't wanna leave. That'd be my favorite show. He didn't wanna go. He felt comfortable. He didn't wanna leave. He not doing all 3 of them
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[115:57.880 --> 116:05.920] interviews. No. Some of them can cancel. Yeah. He almost fucked me up saying he didn't do Christopher Williams' Dream and I almost played Dreamin' for him. But he did it though. He
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[116:05.920 --> 116:14.520] said he did it. He said his brother did it. But yeah. And what I'll say is I do feel like- Christopher Dreamin'. Leave
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[116:14.520 --> 116:22.520] me alone. Don't leave me alone. You know it when you heard it. You know it. That nigga T-Fly. Nah, you heard it before.
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[116:24.080 --> 116:32.780] It was poppin'? You still hear it. Really? T-Fly might not have heard it. What year
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[116:32.780 --> 116:41.020] was it? Oh yeah! Yeah! He said he didn't make this?
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[116:41.020 --> 116:49.057] He didn't make this. Don't wake me
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[116:50.052 --> 116:59.524] up, I'm dreaming Don't wake me up
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[117:00.520 --> 117:09.540] Oh, G.P. New Japan! Now you can hear me. Just let me sleep Don't
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[117:09.540 --> 117:17.720] wake me up Till my dream is complete Hey Believe me alone I'm a man
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[117:17.720 --> 117:30.340] of my life I'm a man of my life I'm a man in my life I can't hear in
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[117:30.340 --> 117:38.380] there for 20 minutes. Greatness come out. Can you imagine that? Johnny Cap was old and still sounded great too. Still
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[117:38.380 --> 117:46.620] sounded great. In that record? Period. Just as he got older. Niggas wasn't outside, you know what I mean? At all. Niggas
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[117:46.620 --> 117:54.640] wasn't outside. This is cars ride by in the booming system. This is like, hey, hey. You ain't need no condoms.
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[117:55.560 --> 118:05.700] Oh, yeah. See? See what I'm saying? Sexy thing. You
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[118:05.700 --> 118:15.500] want to go with me tonight Cause in my mind I see romantic places Candle
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[118:15.800 --> 118:23.920] lights, champagne on the table It's the way you do me It's the way
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[118:23.920 --> 118:32.020] you do me That keeps me coming home It's the way you do
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[118:32.560 --> 118:41.020] me This shit was so hard It was very difficult to find this version of this song Every little thing you do
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[118:42.320 --> 118:50.720] It turns me on Oh yeah, oh yeah And every little thing you say
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[118:51.180 --> 118:59.400] Everything you say, baby Everything you want to say Another day Another day
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[119:00.880 --> 119:08.880] Yes Woohoo Alright, come on now Don't worry about it Soon as I get in the car, soon as I get in the car, who
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[119:08.880 --> 119:17.120] jacks, please He's on how hard it is to make a hard sound I can't even imagine having as many hits as he got. From the 80s to the 20s. From the early 80s. He didn't
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[119:17.120 --> 119:25.160] drop 1 bad name. No. He dropped none but legends. We was working in Inglewood at Tony Bennett's studio. He was working at Tony
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[119:25.160 --> 119:33.340] Bennett's house. Yeah. He did the album at his house. Yeah, his levels. We just did what work did. We did the whole album. Right there. And even the people
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[119:33.340 --> 119:41.340] he named that didn't have a name so much, like Johnny, they got hits. They got hits with him. They got Clarence, Avon, y'all gotta have breakfast with you, you can get them out. Every
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[119:41.340 --> 119:55.960] time I go to LA, every year. Don't come out here and not have breakfast with me. Come on, dawg. ["Flyin' Around"] And
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[119:55.960 --> 120:05.980] he say he was broke when this came out. And this was still his favorite session. And favorite song. That's crazy. Hey,
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[120:06.800 --> 120:23.840] Fraternity! Yo, this is a good 1 too. Hey,
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[120:23.840 --> 120:31.840] this is when my mom was outside. I'm moving, grooving, yeah Just got back Stop it I'm getting it I'm getting it I'm getting
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[120:31.840 --> 120:40.140] it I'm getting it All around the bend I'm getting it Is it, is it
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[120:40.140 --> 120:48.140] Is it tough to get on the way Is it tough to get on the way Right in there, yeah, yeah. Here's some legos. Come on, come on, come on. Come on, come on, come on. Come on, yo. Come on, yo. Ooh. Yo, this is like, this is
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[120:48.140 --> 120:56.160] crazy. That nigga's the man, yo. Yeah, he is. This is crazy real legend not nice I'll be throwing around legend legend.
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[120:56.160 --> 121:04.820] What's the shitty have a mic on a boomerang soundtrack? Oh, the boomerang. Yeah,
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[121:04.820 --> 121:12.960] yeah, yeah. It's a good dream. Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah, yeah. Petrolis, we jammin' it, we leave
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[121:12.960 --> 121:21.000] it. We jammin' it, we leave it. Iggy! Whoo! My love comes down. It's not on
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[121:21.000 --> 121:29.560] mic. It's not mic on mic. I don't have to run around. I got you when you know just what to
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[121:30.060 --> 121:38.560] do. Here we go! Whoa! Is that Michael? It's
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[121:39.060 --> 121:47.060] not Michael. Not so daddy. To fulfill all my needs and satisfy me But I'd like to know The sexual feeling is mutual Do you feel what I'm feeling? Do I please you? Do I
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[121:47.060 --> 121:55.900] feel the need? I know it might sound bold But I just like to know I
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[121:55.900 --> 122:04.540] want to know Who I got to know Come
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[122:04.540 --> 122:17.740] on and tell me boy Music, music Now,
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[122:18.320 --> 122:26.560] I do think he needed to go back and listen to Keith Sweat catalog a little more. I can't believe because when I asked him his 5
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[122:26.820 --> 122:34.820] top joints from the genre I wanted to once he got to Bobby and whoever was after that
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[122:34.820 --> 122:43.180] I was like oh, yeah, I'm be songs. Yeah What what keeps going would you put in there? Keep got I mean keep got I want to say me
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[122:43.380 --> 122:51.480] Only I want to make it last I want it got to be I wanna over the 5 that he named Maybe I wanna I share I feel like making
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[122:51.480 --> 123:11.480] last is 1 of those He's not sure that but we say a new Jackson he said new jack shit I
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[123:11.480 --> 123:19.740] wanted to bring up Bobby Brown vs. Keith Sweats, but I didn't want to... The timing, please. Right person won, though. Yeah, for sure.
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[123:20.280 --> 123:29.840] Yeah, lesson was learned that day. What? You don't need that? No. Oh. Ooh. Yo.
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[123:32.080 --> 123:40.400] Oh my God. Nigga, this was a smash, bro. She's so bad. Yo, could you imagine all these hits and you not getting your chip off of Oh Somebody gotta
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[123:40.400 --> 123:48.900] die. Yeah, what's your being in the club in the 80s some dab of Dan on some jewelry? So you're standing there?
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[123:50.640 --> 124:05.700] All right, but you're on it y'all are down man. Make sure y'all subscribe. Oh, y'all here already. What up? Some of y'all are here for free. Pay up. Tell your friends. Some of y'all on the free tier, nigga. Go ahead and spend $10, God damn it. I'm on the now. Yo, what you all about?
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[124:06.820 --> 124:15.580] Traveling on YouTube, right? And I seen somebody took like the whole audio of the Patreon. Let it hear from a distance. It
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[124:15.580 --> 124:25.260] make me so real. I want to send you the page. You ain't got to send it to me. CorduLab, boy. You and I together Chewing
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[124:26.160 --> 124:35.040] things seems so real Yeah, quarter lab, get that money It feels so great, awake me It
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[124:35.040 --> 124:43.160] feels so real, all I know is Alright y'all are down man, hopefully y'all have enjoyed that Teddy Riley interview
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[124:43.160 --> 124:44.380] the way we enjoyed it
