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0:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it 0:08 is not serious. It is not real. No 1 is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you 0:16 anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best 0:24 interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's Legend Day again. Yeah. Raise the bar. Joe, man, good 0:32 job, yo. Listen, man, I humbly bring you, come on, man, stop playing. I not 0:41 so humbly bring you some brothers that played a huge part in my motherfucking hip hop upbringing. We only 0:49 bring legends up here, man. It's not, it's just, it's a new rule. If you're a new person and you have a relationship with someone up here, maybe you can sneak through the cracks. But 0:58 we are honored to have, privileged to have Juvie and Manny for us to be here. Thank y'all, thank y'all. We appreciate 1:06 the love, man. Yeah. It's all love. Listen, man, well Manny already know, cause I've told him anytime I've seen him at a festival 1:15 or a show somewhere, but the love I got for you dudes and what y'all have done, it means a lot to me. Not too many people come up here where 1:23 I could get in stand mode, but I fuck with y'all, y'all are great. Man, I appreciate the love, man. Wow, appreciate the love, man. I'ma keep 1:31 it a buck, I'm in stand mode. I'm just gonna tell you straight up. Y'all know how I am about South Rap, Cash Money. Like, I'm in Stammo right now. Thank 1:39 you, bro. I don't do that often. How you brothers feeling, man? Man, good, man. Good health, you know. Music is doing good right 1:47 now. Me and my dog, you know, in our collaborations in life, man, and music brings all this on, but I appreciate what's 1:55 going on right now for me and my dog. Now y'all look great, man, y'all look great. Yeah, y'all look great. Y'all ain't age or fit, man. Y'all looking the same. Y'all look like a 2:03 kid. Almond milk or some shit. You ain't see the ill shit that Manny Fresh just pulled. Oh, he did the flash. I ain't never seen that. A J.B.P. First. 2:12 Yeah, it do. Had the barber pull out and line him up on the balcony. Shut up. Yes, sir. I always gotta be ready, man. But his lineup was already good. 2:21 It was already good. It was already good. You was straight. You gotta be excellent, man. Let me just make sure it's 100% I want all I always want to be court ready Serious boy 2:29 That's a different kind of lady. Hey dog, hey dog. You going to court the battle, you're trying to be right. I'm talking about 2:37 when it's something serious, boy, you, I'm talking about please, your honor. Straight, line, everything straight. I'm calling for it. I 2:45 like that. That's exactly why I would be scared to death to book Manny Fresh. For anything. For anything. The budget that's gonna 2:53 come with it would need for this brother to travel around. Yeah. Earned it though. You earned it. Yeah, word. Thank you, thank you, bro. 3:02 Thank you, thank you. This full quarter, you know, it's been super good for us, bro. You know, it's a long time building. And 3:10 it's, you know, we kind of took, after Tiny Deaths, it's now or never. You know, and we grabbed on to that now and we still going 3:18 hard. How y'all still got the energy for it? Love, you gotta love this. It's the passion, it's the family, it's the enjoyment, especially 3:26 doing it with your family. My sons and my daughters, they grown now and they get to see it. So it means a lot more than daddy being at home saying, you know, 3:34 back in my time. I used to be that 1, you know, I was on top. Cause do they understand really? They get it now. They didn't 3:42 know what time it was with Pop Beck. Nah, It took them a minute. It took them a minute, especially when they're hearing it from their peers, right? They got to hear from the people around them. But it 3:50 took a minute. Did the Tiny Des make like a shift? Like they appreciated more after they seen the response to that? They did. And the crazy part about the Tiny Des is 3:58 it was my baby girl that talked me into doing it. They told me like, nah, you the messed up, pops. You the messed up. Well, because you ain't 1 of the parts of it. Nah, I ain't really knew 4:06 what, truthfully, I ain't really know what NPR was. I jumped out like, what the fuck is a Tiny Desk? She said, oh, you can't do that. And 4:15 you know, she gave me this long speech and told me, look how they going off on your social media. So she came up with this idea that if I get 10, 4:24 000 retweets, I got to do Tiny Daz. But I didn't know you had to pay to be on Tiny Daz. You know I didn't know they don't pay for no expenses. 4:34 Yeah, Barbara gotta stay on. Should I do Tiny Dab? We 4:42 had to do a concert and everything to get that budget right. It worked out though, man. It was fun doing it and we ain't look back. 4:52 Tell me about the new record. It's a great record, BBB. Tell me how the remix came about. Tell me what it's feeling like 5:01 out there. I was just saying before y'all got here, I have yet to go outside in the proper New York element and hear it the way I need to hear 5:09 it, but what a record, but what a record. Thank you brother, thank you brother. Man, it's crazy. It's something that, you know how you sit on the beach and say, man, this beat hot. 5:17 My dog D-Rock did this beat for me years ago. I was just sitting on it like, man, this beat hot, but I just don't know what to do to it. And when I put it together. You found 5:26 it. Yeah, when I put it together and put it out, I got the reaction was everybody wanted Megan on the record, not knowing that I already had somebody on the song. Genesis 5:35 the God, shout out to her, because she already had laced the song. She killed it. She killed it. So I was like, damn, the fans, by me putting it out as a snippet, just a 5:43 hook and a verse, they didn't hear her. So they started requesting Megan Thee Stallion. Like, put Megan on the record, put Megan on it. You have to put her 5:51 on the record. So that's how that came about. The fans, the same tiny desk fans that attacked me, they jumped on Megan Page and was like, nah, you need to do this record. 5:59 This record is hot. It fits you. And we getting ready to shoot a video in a couple days. Yeah. There you go. That is absolutely fire. 6:09 Her people hit me up. I sent the music to her, she knocked it out right quick. You know what I respect about you? 6:19 Like, I know we're men of age. I appreciate that you always give us something like to ride ass to. I 6:29 know It seemed like such a foolish thing to appreciate from somebody, but I did a lot to slow motion. Back in 6:37 that's right. So you figure what niggas age and you know we get older we get married as kids and we dads and we had the PTA meetings and it's soccer games 6:45 and shit. But it's good to go in the studio and make something to ride ass to. Yeah, and do it for 6:54 us, for our age. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I've been getting a lot of good feedback from my grownups. I've been calling my grownups, 7:02 my old heads, my old, whatever you want to call them, right? And all of them been saying the same thing, like thank you brother, thank you brother. And I be like, yeah man, I was 7:10 really trying to do that. I really was trying to do this for us, because I feel like they making a lot of booty music, but it ain't for us. It's Young Nigga booty music. 7:20 Slow motion is a love song man. Pretty much. That's a love song. Pretty much bro, pretty much. Yeah. Man I wanna ask you 7:28 what's the most you ever got for a beat? I would say somewhere probably like 100 something like that you know at the height of it. And 7:37 you was doing a lot per year. Yeah. So I can do a little bit of math. Yeah like you know like something like but the cool thing about my 7:45 era was we all stayed in touch. Like you know what I'm saying? So if it was Tim or it was Swizz or it was Pharrell or 7:53 it was ever, you know like if a record company called and said they had $40, 000, you know, you turned it down, you called everybody else and told them to turn it down 8:02 so we could keep that number. You know what I'm saying? We need more of that. Union. We need more of that. That's a union. Rappers need to do that best. 8:10 Right now, you get a show, they call you for a show, they got 150, 000 and you want 250, 000, hit Juve up, dawg. 8:18 You know what I'm saying? I don't, y'all, that's good for me. I mean, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And if it don't work for me, I'll pass 8:26 it on to the next person. I think that's what made the super producer era, you know? And if you think about any other music genre, they 8:35 teach you that, you know, you taught that. Hip-hop stopped doing that, you know. They start telling kids that it'll be a good look if you do this and it'll be a, 8:43 and you know, and if We spoke up, you know, we had a lot of backlash from somebody going, hey, old dude, mind your business. And we was like, nah, we actually 8:51 wanna leave this to y'all where y'all make more money than we made. You know what I'm saying? Instead of y'all just, nah, dude, we like don't take that little bit of money. 8:59 What's different? I mean, y'all listened to the old heads when y'all came in. Yeah, definitely Definitely, you know, you got to think about who was it wasn't 9:08 even mentors It was just out of respect. We you know, we grew up under Quincy Jones You know what I'm saying? Quincy Jones had Times where he couldn't go 9:16 through the front door and all kind of sacrifices he had to do and we knew that you know What I'm saying, so who are we to fuck up that man's legacy? You know what 9:24 I'm saying and not take this serious when when if Quincy saw you, you know 1 of the first things you say know you work know what you work. You know what I'm saying 9:32 He had no long talks with you or whatever. Probably didn't even know your body at work, but he was like, if they talking about you and you popping, you need to know what you work. 9:40 You're like, man, that's the greatest advice somebody could've told me if he had 2 seconds, you know what I'm saying, to talk to me. And now, you know, we trying to figure out 9:49 too, what we doing, how do we bridge that gap with young artists, because we ain't got nothing against them, we love them. We just want them to do their homework a little bit more. 9:57 That's all, that's all we ask. Julie, can I ask, The thing that stands out for me is you were the first person we even got a glimpse of when it came 10:05 to the cash money movement? Did you ever have a pressure of having to be that flagship artist to offset, get this 10:13 shit jumping? Nah, because Slimmin' B did a good job of keeping us away from that. I can't lie, like, yeah, that never, that 10:21 effect never happened to me because they kinda like kept us grounded and in the studio a lot at that time. So a lot of things was happening, we didn't see it. Like the 10:29 30 million, when that popped up, we was like, 30 million? Hey, man, we doing good, aren't we? So 10:40 yeah, but we kept a lot of things like rap, we kept ourselves under the raps a lot. I'm on record, and y'all can correct me if 10:49 I'm just Totally out of bounds with this 1, but I'm on record saying that I believe that y'all niggas should have part-staking in universe in the universal system 10:57 Oh, yeah, yeah, we don't disagree with the lights on for a long time over there. We remember when we came there what it was and what it 11:05 is now. So yeah, definitely. We're not, and I still got a good relationship with them, but they know it, they know it. That's these 11:13 are facts. Tell me how you can have a good relationship with them while simultaneously feeling that. Well, 1 of the things with us was 11:22 we knew that in order to break a record, it took a team of people. So let's not even say the heads, like the heads of it, the people 11:30 that work that universe. The staff, you know, and we had a good report card with the staff so they really wanted to work our records just by, 11:38 you know, how we work with people. And that said a lot to people, you know, it's always kind of when it comes to the fucked up part is the heads up, 11:46 you know, but we understood that in order when we deliver this song, if people don't wanna work that song, you know they don't fuck with you. That song ain't going 11:54 nowhere. The marriage. Yeah, yeah. It's always a change of the guard. You know they always selling these companies at the top. They always moving, changing hands. You 12:02 know, the leadership changes. But should artists share when they IPO? Right. Yeah. Like moving forward. We know everything that 12:11 happened in the past. Yeah. With all of us. Like, everybody got a story. But today, with all of the information and with artists knowing their 12:19 worth, like Quincy said, do you see anything about that changing maybe in the future for our grandchildren as artists 12:27 or just for the next wave? We gotta start working on that. All of us, We gotta start working on that. You know, all of us, we gotta start working on that. I don't 12:36 know, man. I don't see it getting better until somebody do something about it, right? So that's why I was saying somewhere in the future, you know, it's coming. It's 12:44 coming. I believe that too. It's coming. I don't know if it'll be in my lifetime, but I do believe it. I do believe it. I also got a hip hop head question that 12:53 I gotta ask you. When you first heard the Jay-Z version of Hot. Oh. 13:02 Off-ramp. It's dark. It's me. I know where you're going. Off-ramp. I think I know where you're going at. 13:11 Tickle, tickle. No, listen. Unbeknownst to me, because I was young when that song came out. All right. I loved it and thought everybody killed. As I got older, 13:19 I learned that it was people in New York that didn't think Hov killed on that particular song. So I just want to know what your 13:27 first year, Ice thinks that. There's a few people that say that. I love it. See, it's hard, because I'm biased, right? We did not need that. Because I'm a Jay-Z fan, first of all. So 13:35 what messes that up is, when it happened, me and Manny was in the organ with everybody saying, wait, man, he just, nigga just threw us a, 13:44 Phil just threw us a touchdown. Like he jumped, like Jay-Z was like, you know, they in there like, I mean, I don't know if we really need him on 13:52 the song and all that you know but we me and him like cuz they wasn't Jay-Z fans they wasn't listening to nothing me and him though we was like say 14:00 bro we this big he ain't charging us nothing. This shit is for free. This big, bro, he cleared it. Let's go with it. Let's 14:08 go. Free Ho features? Yeah, it's coming out. But you know what you know. But you know why. You know why though, right? But you know why you got the free Ho feature. Oh, we know why. Okay, okay. It don't matter. 14:17 So you talking to Cass and Hove then? It don't matter. So that's not that, we talking. He was over enough. He was over enough. He was a big deal. We talking 14:25 about what 400 degrees drop. We talking about, that's what I was about to do. I'm about to go. I was outside when this shit came out. I'm not going to 400 degrees, I'm going back to get it how 14:33 you live and soldier rags. We going to south. We knew that. We knew we was running the whole south. I'm here on some cocky shit. We 14:41 had it. We knew any artist on a major scale could now sell us in our region. We knew that. So we knew when the moment he jumped on 14:49 that, that was a touchdown for him. What I was saying like, nah nigga, we in New York now. Even though I knew New York was on the record, but this 14:57 is going to put us with the hip hop heads and everybody else. Now I can get their ears. I just want them to listen to, not just that 1 song, listen to my album. It was 15:06 smart. People would have them listen to the album. I said, nah, I got you. So for someone like me, all right, how is what put me 15:14 onto you? Okay, same. Right, same. Prior to the Jay-Z remix, right? So the album, they up here know I am a huge 15:22 fan of Southern rap. I didn't really listen to the New York rap. So I heard this, oh shit, what is this? Blew my mind. And I'm started digging in. My arm 15:30 is blown. Well, yeah it did. That's just 1 thing. I'm not gonna hold you. You know like Juvi left out. Nobody in cash money was a fan of nothing else only 15:39 being hip-hop fans Nobody listen to nothing else so that There was clueless to who anybody 15:47 else was outside of Cash Money, and that was like, it wasn't a rule, it was just kinda like how people grew up. There was like, we 15:55 don't have room for nothing. Cash Money, Cash Money, Cash Money. You know what I'm saying? So we, you know like shit, we knew songs 16:04 outside of Cash Money. You know what I'm saying? And we knew what Jay was doing. Everybody else was like, who is this? Why did he do it? 16:12 You know, and we was like, well, this 1 gonna help us on this, Copes. That's why, you know what I'm saying. It did, and when you look at it though, he was chasing, the south sound was hot. Yeah. 16:20 He was chasing. He jumped on records with Silk the Shocker, he jumped on records with B, he jumped on records with Yaw, he jumped on records with- He watched the show. This is the truth though. 16:28 I'm not gonna- Just tell your tone. We're telling the truth here. He watched the show. When you see something that's bubbling and it's that's the sound over there. Oh shit, let me jump. Let me 16:36 be the pioneer to bring that sound here. But it's mutually beneficial and it works for both. I'm not knocking hope. I'm just so don't tell me. So then with 16:45 y'all not YouTube necessarily, but with with them being in their own bubble, tell me how the, now 16:53 I'm thinking about some of my favorite Juvenile features, fucking, tell me how the down bottom feature comes about. That was really like 17:01 a me and Swiss Beast thing. I ain't really know Drag On. Did you know what time it was when you got that, or when you first heard that with that record? 17:09 What was going on over here with that record? I didn't know what was going on. I really didn't. That record is still a classic record. When 17:18 I heard Drag On rapping on it, I didn't know who he was. I'm like, this dude rapping fast as shit. Yeah. I'm like, man. What you talking about? You know, 17:27 and I'm listening to it, I'm like, not to take nothing away from him. I'm like, you know, that's not how that's just not this beat Don't say that 17:35 to me the horns and shit, you know, I'm from the south We got a lot of shit like that with them Indian songs. So my first thing click in my mind I'm just gonna 17:43 follow the music. I'm just gonna follow the music and Whatever I see say with it is gonna work. I just knew soon as I heard it was gonna be 17:51 something. I was like, damn, this for y'all? I wanted to know, my big question was, is this a Cash Money record or a Rough Riders record? 17:59 That was my biggest question. When they say, nah, it's going on the Rough Riders, they had a compilation. I was like damn. See 18:08 that's that but even that that speaks to the mindset that they was having the business side where this record going niggas up here wouldn't think about the business. Oh you need something let's jump on the 18:16 record together let's put it out there let's see what they do in the streets that shit was crazy. Down south was all business. When you think back to that moment, who do you wish you 18:24 in a record with? Definitely DMX Definitely DMX. Oh man DMX all the way, especially in his prime. Definitely 18:33 him. They got other people I wish like Nas was my dude, Eminem was my dude. But definitely 18:42 the top of my list, I can't go past it. You know what I'm saying, it's him. Manny, when you left Cash Money and ended 18:50 up at Def Jam. Yeah, Jay signed me. How was that transition? Bro, it was a life lesson, you know, because I really 18:58 thought I was going to Def Jam and I was gonna do everything that I did at Cash Money, you know what I'm saying? And I didn't have a 19:06 family, you know, I didn't have no family structure. And it was 1 of them deals, like thank God, like he gave me a contract that was just 19:14 solid, solid. Cause he was gone on Tuesday, started this thing. You know what I'm saying? I was like, well shit, what the fuck? I just got here. And they 19:23 was like, Jay's gone. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of that shit was, it was blamed on me. And they was just like, well fuck, we just gave you a 19:31 suitcase full of money at Jay's own, you know? And I was like, well, look, I'm still gonna do my job. But you know, 19:39 I was used to that family structure of we can pull, you know, and I was going, well, damn, you know, there's Rihanna, there's Jeezy, there's Ludacris, there's da da da 19:47 da, Let me get all of these people in the room. And I really thought it was that easy to do that shit. And it was like, you ain't shit around here, buddy. Thank you. I'll 19:55 do that. Damn. No way. Damn. Yeah. And I was like, well, I mean, we could get this jumping. And 20:03 every time, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, well, shit, I gotta tough this 1 out. And that was kinda like 1 of my hardest deals, but I really thank Jay for, you 20:11 know, because that shit happened around Hurricane Katrina. You know what I'm saying? And the way it was, the way the contract was written, you know, like 20:19 the shit, the check had to keep coming, even if they pushed me out. Like, you know what I'm saying? So it was a savior, you know? And it was 1 of them like, God 20:27 damn, what did I just do? Like, you know, and that was like 1 of the hardest times in my careers because my hands was tied and they wouldn't let me record, they wouldn't 20:36 let me do nothing. And 1 of the tasks was, they was like, if you go get us a song from Wayne, you know what I'm saying, we'll put it out. And 20:44 I was like, okay, And I called Wayne and he did the shit and I and I and I and I brung the song back And it was just like we gonna get to it Whole 20:58 different system yeah system like a label shit And you know and the motivation that like, you know, you have shit that come from strange places. 21:07 When Jay album came out, you know, his line fresh like Manny B chain, like I had people going, bro, you arrived, Jay put you in the fucking intro. Like 21:15 you know what I'm saying? And you know, what other thing can you get? Like, there's people that you look at as peers that, you know, they hip hop royalty. Around that 21:23 time, I was looking at Jay like that. You know, he is hip hop royalty. Like, his thoughts was he was gonna get me and then he was 21:31 gonna get Wayne. You know, he was like, if I get you, and if I could get Wayne to follow, and I was like, well that's all I really need, and we'll figure it, but you know, we was never 21:39 really beefing, we just left because shit wasn't working out our way, but all of us were still cool. I was still cool with Juvi, I was still cool with everybody that 21:47 you know and everybody who's been in this grimy ass dirty ass record business know that feeling. I 21:56 wanted to ask, so you mentioned Wayne, did you have any regrets doing the verses without him? No. We still got 22:04 to do our own thing. I have very different answers. And that's what's cool about us. It's all right if he say that. We don't agree by me if 22:13 400 Degrees was not a bunch of agreeing. I don't want y'all. I ain't ever start with that. We don't agree with shit. I hope people 22:21 don't think it's all honky-dory and all smile. They like that all the time. We don't agree on a lot of things. Can we take a step back first? How do we get to the verses? 22:30 Because that whole. The man is Swiss Beats. Swiss Beats and Timbaland. Yeah. And y'all, was it for both of y'all a quick yes, a quick no? Did y'all have to... 22:38 Well, when I figure out Swiss B's called me, the first thing popping in your head is, oh, OK, I can't get deal with Max, he rest 22:47 in peace, but I get a Swiss Beats beat, right? And then I get to do something with my dogs and make some money at the same time. So it was something that 22:55 was cool, because 1 thing I'm not doing, I'm not beefing with no limit, that's my people too. So It wasn't like that. So I said, let's 23:03 go on and do it. But when I found out Wayne wouldn't got, my deal was if Wayne not doing it, I'm not doing it. I ain't find out Wayne wasn't doing it right 23:11 before we walked on stage. Yeah, I was about to ask, because they said a big part of why they wanted y'all to do it in Vegas. Well, Wayne was the 1 who was calling 23:19 people, calling, you know, talking to P to convince him to do it. So, you know, it is what it is. So they say, so I don't know, 23:27 I didn't hear that conversation, but that's what they say. All right, so yes, so you regret it, and you like, it is what it is. Like that. Yeah, I'm like, I still gotta do my job. You know what I'm saying? 23:35 Because it was 1 of those things when it was told to me, my first, the first shit I said was no, cause I knew something was gonna happen. 23:44 You know, I was just like, listen, there's this turmoil right now. I think you wanna talk. Yeah, you talking about, 23:52 Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, so, you know, and then it became the same shit that always happened. It was just like, well, the show ain't together. So once 24:00 I start orchestrating the show on how you know, and I wanted this shit to be entertaining So, you know, I had to sit down with KL and say hey, bro Some some 24:08 kind of way this this these songs gotta make sense Like you know what I'm saying to and I was talking to Wayne early on. 24:17 He was like, hey bro, I want to be at the top, I want to be at the end. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, I think it would be dope if you come at the end. You know what I'm saying? And that 24:25 was just, so I was like, okay now, like he said, you get this 5 minutes before it starts, you know he ain't gonna, I'm like, well shit, I done already did all of this. I'm, 24:33 you know what I'm saying? I'm here. Nah, I'm doing 8 souls. Yeah, yeah, I'm here. They put that on your back? Nah, I'm doing 24:41 like 8 souls. Yeah, yeah. What'd you, When you thought Wayne was there, what was 24:49 your confidence level? What was your confidence level when you thought you were going to go Wayne? It's killmode, it's killmode, bro. It's killmode. It's like fighting somebody in New York 24:57 and your mom and your daddy standing in the door saying whoop his ass. You better whoop his ass. You know what I'm saying? It's like that. Got you. Would you do a solo versus? 25:06 What, against another artist? Yes. See, that's the part with me about the versus with a different artist. Somebody gotta lose. Yeah. 25:16 You know what I mean? And I don't know if I won't be the 1 to test somebody career part I 25:25 had a matchup. I will always want to see you do I'm a different monster bro Cuz I can get that I was saying songs you never heard of our freestyle. I'm a different monster. You ever 25:33 saw me on stage? I What 25:43 is what is versus though what is versus right now is it is it still is it competitive or is it apologetic because you 25:51 know like in our era when we went to you know versus you know we like we came here to destroy you and now it turned into 26:00 Somebody gonna write a letter on you. You know, you said some bad shit about me, you know I need to go to therapy. I can't believe you done that I'm 26:08 like what the fuck I don't do it You know, I see I see how 1 side get the bad in it. I just don't I don't I can be some fly shit though, 26:16 It could be like Teddy Riley and Babyface or... If both people show up. Rap it ain't gonna be like... Or Axl Snoop. If you choose a type of rapper, 26:25 and the type of music he make, it'll change the whole... But that's more of a celebration than verses. You see what I'm saying? If both people show up, it's a celebration. If 26:33 someone don't show up, then it becomes a You said his name or something? I don't want to be I'm not on I got an hour. Listen, I ain't no 26:41 rat But there is a name that was floated in 26:49 this room. I heard a name. What's the name you heard? I heard a name. What's the name? It was a name that was floated in here. It was Joe, right? No, I didn't say it. It 26:57 was Joe. I was fat Joe. That's the name I heard. Oh, no. Oh, yeah, no, no. No, I heard the name. No, it ain't the name. No, no, no, no. No, I had another name I would like to see. If you had a 27:05 name. What name? You and Plas. Me and Plas. Yep. That's the Brody, no way. Nah, that's Plas the Brody, man. Plas 27:14 them see, Woody and everything like we do in New Orleans. That's too similar to me. That's the name you had? Yes. That's the name that was flowing. That's the name that I've been saying. 27:22 We had a couple times. I ain't gonna say no names, but. It was Freeze. It was me. It was me. It was me. Freeze, Freeze, 27:30 yeah, it was Freeze, man. That's what you said. Now you say it. It was me. I know that's the homie, you don't wanna do that. That's the brody, man. That's my 27:38 little brody, man. But if y'all had to do it. But that money would have to be stupid. But what does the final? But I wouldn't do it though. I really 27:46 wouldn't do it. All right, if money was stupid you would do it. I wouldn't do it. I'ma be honest with you, man. I wouldn't do it. I don't even do it. Cause I got offers for other people before and I was 27:54 like, nah, that's cool. Would the impact be the same if we did it like on a house party style instead of a versus and just say, hey bro, let's go song 28:02 for song and have a good time with the people. That'd be fly. You know what I'm saying? It's too important. The people ain't gonna do that. Nah. See, I hear what you saying. 28:11 Listen, we tried to do a no limit, a beat battle between him and- Well, me and KL just 28:19 did 1 in Atlanta. So it's him, KL against me, I mean it's me and man against KL and Mystical, right? And we all partners, 28:27 but man we can't, I mean I'm over that, it's pro. You competitive. Getting mad. Yes. I can't do it. You know what I'm saying? I'm mad at the company. 28:36 I was mad at the verses in Vegas. I was mad at that. I'm like, man, come on, bro. You ain't play this 1, you ain't play that 1. He's 28:44 like, nah, bro, because we had to balance it like nah. We here to kill. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, man, I go hunting, I'm coming home with something. It's 28:53 what it is, you know what I'm saying? Hey, I get it, man, I get it. Juvi, you clearly have 29:01 an album that people still talk about to this day. It's a classic. Yes. People look up to it. When you were creating it, did you know in your 29:09 mind you were creating a classic? Like did you hear it and know off the rip? This guy did, but I didn't, man. I was nervous as hell. I was so focused 29:17 on putting the album together that I felt like was gonna be respected amongst my peers. I was more focused on rappers liking 29:25 me than I was focused on the fans. And Manny was like, man, you worrying about the wrong thing. All the time. You worrying about the wrong 29:34 thing, Juul. And that's how we always clash. We always clash. It went from us fussing about how to beat something, like look, 29:42 bruh, just rap. Stop worrying about the music. You're not a producer. I'm a DJ and a producer. I know what I'm doing. That be the hard part sometimes. Getting 29:50 the rapper to understand that. Yeah. I didn't know, bro. I produced so many. That's the hardest shit in the world to get somebody to understand. Because 29:59 my process is a little different. And 1 of the things Juve struggled with a lot was, he was like, that's not the beat I heard. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, 30:07 bro, I'm a build around what you doing. Yes. Like, you know, I'm like, you know, and if he did something that was fucking super 30:15 great to me, I'm like, nah, I gotta change the whole shit. I gotta change this shit up so it can meet the standards of what you're doing. Plus I imagine at that time you were doing so 30:23 much music that you didn't have time to necessarily completely finish out a beat before vocals because you got 7 albums on your plate. Believe it or not, I would process 30:31 it, you know, and this is not me saying this shit, how people say this shit to get married, to blow smoke up their own ass. In those days, it probably 30:39 took me 5 to 10 minutes to do a beat. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of our shit just happened off of emotion. Like, 30:47 if I'm beating on a desk doing something, he starts saying, that's you with that ass, huh? That's you with that bag, huh? And I'm like, that's the fucking song. Let's go do it. You know what 30:55 I'm saying? And a lot of times it happens just like that. But then after the fact you might add something or change the beat or whatever. Nah, he definitely gonna add something. If 31:04 he got a verse on it, listen to the song, see where all the breaks at. The beat get interesting when he start rapping. I'm saying, 31:13 bro. My Every time you do your shit, listen to Back That 31:21 Ass Up. I'm like, you a rapper. I understand it. Big man, man. I 31:31 say this nigga go overboard on this shit. You still using your same equipment from the start? Oh yeah bro. You ain't transforming? I mean I've tried Ableton and I know how 31:39 to do it, but it does not give me the SP 1200 feel. Oh you're still on the SP too? Yeah, everything Cash Money was like SP 1200. That blew my mind when I first learned that because 31:47 I was like, you know at the time it was like bling bling hip-hop versus up here kind of Backpacky hip-hop or whatever. It's like oh shit. He's using 31:55 the same shit We use up here and most of my songs was crammed in that the bass line and all of that Oh, like, you know I'm saying where where you know like even when I 32:03 load up some of the floppy disks sometimes, and they're like, you got the whole number 1 Stunna song on here, you got the Han on here. All of that shit was in my SP-1200. 32:11 Would you just pitch it up and then pitch it back down? Yeah, I would pitch that shit up crazy as fuck. Like, you know what I'm saying? He real good at tweaking drums. Oh yeah, 32:19 no doubt. Every drum he's sitting up, I said come on bruh. Who made my fucking idea, man? It's gotta be in tune, bruh. Come on 32:27 bruh, that shit gotta, back through that shit later, bruh. You didn't have drum packs then. You know, no artists understood that you got them snares and 32:35 kicks off of records. You know what I'm saying? You like, this shit came from a real source. It didn't come from, I bought a pack where it's got 808 kicks and 808 snares. 32:45 Now you can just paint my numbers now. This how hard it was. Imagine you got a thought in your head, and you like, this bit sound good. And man is sitting up making a beat, 32:53 and now he's finished making a beat, he say, now I gotta sequence it. Then he, right after he sequenced it, he said, now we gotta strike the tape with SMPTE. 33:02 Man, you sitting there like, man, 2 hours in pass. Man, I used to get, thank the 33:10 Lord everything changed to what it is now, man, because if we'll still be working like that, I think I'll lose my mind. Yo, man, you ever heard that Slum Village, when Dilla did their first tape, 33:18 They just did it to a click track and then you put the beats on later? Yeah. That shit blew my mind when I heard that. Yeah that's crazy. I don't think I could do that. It's been mediocre 33:27 beats like that where I'm like hey bro just rap and let me. I'll fix it later. Yeah and I'll fix it later. You know and it's hard when somebody's like I don't see what you got I'm like, bro. I'll fix 33:35 it. Yeah, trust me. Just trust me Which I think is the best record y'all did together if y'all can if y'all can give us at least 2 to 3 Y'all best 3 records 1 of my 33:43 favorites is soldier. That's my favorite like you know, I'm saying soldier I would definitely say it's soldier Rag, but I like 400 Degrees to 33:51 that 400 Degrees. So you know what I mean? It's those 2. What's your, in your beat discography, your top 33:59 5 beats you've done? Shit, dude. That's 3 of them I probably haven't done yet. Like you know what I'm saying? Because talking shit is like shit. 34:07 It's bad. It is dumb. You know what I mean? I like that. You got 1 on my new album called Lenny Kravitz. That's crazy. The crazy thing is, you know like, 34:16 I got like a couple of old laptops. So when I ain't got shit going on, I'll just go through my laptop to see what, and I'm like, 34:24 god damn, I got shit that say 2003 on it, 2004, and it's heat, and it sound like what's going on right now. So I'm like, okay, I need 34:32 to figure out how to redo this shit in a manner of, just make it a little bit, because some of that shit, the hi-hats, way the fuck up here, because that's 34:40 what music sound like. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, but this shit jamming. So, because I got shit on my drive that I'm like, this shit 34:48 hard as fuck. I don't know what the fuck I was doing. Why I never, you know what I'm saying? You know how the stems, it's just a 2 track? Yeah, it's just a 2 track. It's just a 2 track. You 34:56 know, like his set it off song, I did that shit on like a Tascam 4 track. And I said, yeah, and I was like, it was 5 sounds the 35:04 little shit that you hear oh that's me doing it. 35:15 What are your thoughts when you hear or heard the L'Angelo Ball record? I mean, you know. That's his beat. Yeah. That's 35:23 his beat. But I'm going to give him credit. He did send it to me to jump on it. So I'm going to give him credit because when I first heard it, 35:31 I said, boy, he's saying, whoa. That's all beat. Y'all hold swag on that shit. My daughter said, nah, you got to text him, 35:39 Pops, because that sound like, man, that's real close. Yeah, did you hear that and be like, oh, they looking for us out there? That's our sound, 35:47 we out here. So he reached back and he sent me the track, but I just ain't never, I ain't do it because I already heard a remix 35:55 of it. On some old nigga shit, you prefer working in the studio in the daytime or the nighttime? Full studio or empty studio? What's your second? Empty 36:04 studio, by myself, no engine, then nobody. I do everything myself. All you gotta do is give me the beat. Yeah, I'm a complete opposite. Day time or night time? Any time. 36:12 Especially if I got something on my mind, it's whenever. You know what I mean? But I've been in the studio 3 or 04:00 in the morning for the reason of some of these 36:20 artists you're working with, they don't go to studio till 1 or 2. The youngsters don't go to studio till 1 or 02:00 in the morning. And I can't do that shit 36:28 either. What's the reasoning? Because I think that's fly when you able to record yourself and all that but is there a reason why you kind of just want to be isolated like that you down to the even 36:36 engineer like no because I work I was recording a ride for 9 whatever I could do it in any environment but preferably I'd 36:45 rather be by myself in the studio with nobody around. Studio at the crib? Nah, not at the crib. No, no, no. Keep working. I'd be at Trombone 36:53 Shorty's spot. I got a couple spots in the city. I'd be at multiple spots, but never at home. I don't know why at home I can't. 37:02 I can't. I can't even say. Nah, I just can't. What y'all niggas doing to keep this young energy in? You complained about not wanting to sit on the low deep couch. That was deep 37:10 ass couch. I'm so glad that every guest say that about these couches, bro. But y'all energy is- They shoulda never gave you niggas money. 37:25 But now like, y'all clearly OG energy, but nothing about y'all feel old. It feel like y'all still 37:34 moving with young spirit, feel like y'all still got a- Different publishing checks. They don't have that. With V, man, I stay 37:42 busy. I got my kids, my kids are older, but I just stay doing something. I'm not a sit down person. I get up early in the morning and get out. 37:51 Oh shit, I'm DJing everywhere, bro. And a DJ's job is to, you have to connect with people. And I've never 37:59 been a playlist DJ. I play for the people. And I think just that energy keeps me alive. Like it keeps me going. Like, you know, and 38:07 I got a competitive spirit. I don't want to lose. So, you know, if it's me and I'm playing with the biggest dudes, I still came to kick your ass. We can talk after it's 38:16 over with. Like, you know what I'm saying? So you say you freestyle every DJ get? Like as far as your playlist, your set list? Yeah, yeah. You just come in on the top. Yeah, he cuts up. 38:24 I kind of make shit up on the spot and it's always worked for me. Like you know what I'm saying? That's impressive. Yeah, And a lot of my shit is my own mixes, 38:32 you know, so it's always surprising to people where they're like, damn, what the fuck, I would have never thought to put that with that, you know? And it's your homework 38:41 too. And you know, for this shit, you gotta love this shit, bro. Everybody had a time where they like this is the dumbest shit in the world How the fuck I got tied up and 38:49 all of this and then the next day you wake up you like back to work Just out of curiosity how much would it cost to book 38:57 you for a DJ? It depends on what it is. I need to know This nigga getting shit Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Get 39:05 him for the wedding That's what I was talking about. Yeah, that would be a great- You say you do weddings for a business. What? Yeah, I do. Weddings for a business. Anything less now would be- 39:14 Yeah. You ever DJed a wedding? Yeah. Hell yeah. I've done DJing a lot of it. It's a couple weeks ago, right? Yeah. Me and KL just literally did a 39:22 no limit cash money set, like, you know, in Atlanta. It's where we had like 4, 000 people or something like that, 5, 000 people, like you know 39:31 what I'm saying, and it was just us doing, you know, the music that we do. I ain't gonna lie, cause back that ass up is coming on in my wedding Did 39:40 y'all know that was a wedding song? The price is 39:48 up for me yeah for Joe Just spitball in here, what's the price of something like that? For me? Yeah. For Joe? Oh man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put on the merch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put on the merch. You 39:58 see what that sign says? It may be fresh with my wedding DJ, I'm making flyers. Yeah. 40:08 I'm making sponsors for the show. You at least gotta do the album cover. You gotta do the album cover. You gotta do the album cover. You gotta do all of that. 40:16 My man, Joe, my man right there, he right behind you waving. Shook white. Yeah, there we go. That man said he gonna show us about his money. I already 40:24 know the price went up. Yeah. Treat my man nice, though. I got him, I got him. Yeah, not too nice. He got money Married 40:34 Joe. Oh damn You 40:50 could give me I know I speak to my good brother Mark and Parks, 2 good married brothers, but any advice you can give me is something that I need to be aware of or look 40:58 out for or just how do I make it last? It's okay to be right and be wrong. That's right I'm 41:18 about to hit 22 years of marriage. Listen to me. Oh, yeah. Let that up. Yeah. And even 41:27 when you know you're wrong, Go ahead on and do your thing, man. You know you're the fuck that... You tell me, yo. Learn to shut up, bro. Just take 41:35 that shit. Yeah. I mean, I go through it all the time, man. I be like, damn, you should shut your fucking mouth. You should just shut up. This shit will be over with. 41:43 Don't be the dude that come to work talking to yourself, going, I hate this fucking... Just shut up. Leave it alone. You get mad, right? Yeah. You're going to be talking to 41:51 yourself, baby. We both are. I ain't serious. You talking to yourself. In the hallway just mumbling this shit. I definitely do a lot of talking to myself. 41:59 Oh, I do a lot of talking to myself. You know what? It's okay to talk to yourself because the words that you're talking to yourself, the keeping in yourself, you don't want to say that to your spouse. 42:08 That's a fabulous fact. I be so crazy on the hallway. If these brothers come out at my wedding and do a live performance of Back That Ass Up, I got to get single for an hour at least. 42:18 Oh, the bachelor party! Hey, the bachelor party! Back that, my 42:27 girl will crash that shit. My girl will crash that shit. Can I ask, because you've been married for so long, so this probably don't even phase 42:35 y'all relationship? When you make a record like BBB, when do you slide it in the CD player so your wife could just hear it through the bathroom? 42:44 You let her hear it in the process. Why you, look baby listen to this. Why you saying all that shit? She might, why my wife know I got half that shit I'm saying it's 42:52 some bullshit. I might know that, she know that. Best part of marriage right? Now that's the married nigga shit. She'll tell you right 43:00 out the gate, oh he with me baby. Ain't nothing that happen to me. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, she know shit from Shingle. I think 43:08 you gotta translate that to this depends money baby. This is house money, this is what this means. This is what I'm doing. We been together so long, my wife know, my wife 43:16 know I'm gonna make these kind of songs and then my fans want these kind of songs when I don't do them It's not it's not good Ain't that you get ain't nothing you can't get 43:24 off on the record you say whatever ain't no problems I let her hear first and she'll tell me if she don't like it if she don't like it I change it simple as that. All right now, let me ask you this though cuz 43:32 cuz now y'all have a podcast Yeah, so now when you get to the podcast zone, can you have those same conversations and just sitting and talking? 43:41 Or is it only shit that you can get off in song because it's for the creative shit? Like, Can you share personal stories about things that you've been through on your podcast at the club? I can but 43:49 I don't try to you know our podcast about having fun and laughing and clowning right? So I ain't gonna hit you know with no bad experiences All my experience is gonna be great ones 43:58 or something that you gonna laugh from My yeah, of course my funny especially I'm gonna see you with some funny shit that they happened to me this morning I'm mad. 44:06 I'm getting up I'm trying to get ready to make it on time and shit, and my girl just say, I'm going in the front room, and I don't realize that the glass 44:14 is 2 different colors on the shower door, on the bathroom, and I walk clean into that bathroom. Oh, shit. I'm like, drop 44:23 everything. She looked at me, she gave me the less good for your ass. I didn't even tell you I wasn't going. So 44:32 you know what I'm saying, shit happens man. But that's how I was sure we were gonna give you funny stories. Can I ask what the song Lenny Kravitz is about? I 44:40 mean, yeah, yeah. So the front, the beginning of it is, you know, Lenny Kravitz. I'm thinking, you know why I'm laughing? Because I'm thinking you're going into detail of 44:48 what I said. So you're asking about the- No, the song. I just heard y'all mention it earlier on the new album. So I mean, just to obviate 44:57 to Lenny Kravitz, you know the first line is, I'm Lenny Kravitz, black rock star. I'm not average. You know when you think of Lenny Kravitz, when he come in the room, you know, shit, 45:06 his fucking Lenny Kravitz. You know what I'm saying? Black rock star. Yeah, a black rock star, you know what I'm saying? Great at 61. You 45:14 know, you gotta Think about what do we have, you know, we lost Michael Jackson, we lost Prince, you know what I'm saying, and at Arena, 45:22 the only thing we had, you know, like, that's Lenny Kravitz. Lenny Kravitz, like, when you, when you that, you could wear boots with leopard shit and wisdom. You 45:30 know what I'm saying? You like it ain't nobody gonna check it. Nobody gonna check it. Lenny look good. Lenny can't do this 45:38 bitch. It took whatever he want. So me and Fresh had a performance with him. Me, 45:47 Fresh and Trombone Shorty was on stage with him at the Jazz Fest. And I asked him then, like, say bro, I really would 45:55 love to do a song with you and have you rock out with the guitar. He was like, wait man, we'll put it together, get with Manny. I'm going to get with Manny and we're going to put it together. 46:03 So when Manny sent me the song with the hook on it, the first thing I start telling people motherfuckers, this is Lenny Kravitz on it. So 46:16 on with this knowledge, of course I'm, I can't hold that shit in, I'm telling everybody. So I went on and recorded the song, hyped up and he come back, and tell him what you told 46:24 me. So I said, that ain't Lenny on the guitar. This even more spectacular. This even more spectacular. I was 46:32 like, Wayne played the guitars. And he was like, for real, I was like, yeah, he played the guitars on this shit. I sent it to him and he did some guitar licks and sent 46:40 it back. So I was like, so all of the licks that you hear on the song is Wayne playing. Man, that's another black rock star. Had that up there. Cause he was like, wait, you made a 46:48 fucking song called Lenny Kravitz, I'm jumping on this bitch. You know, and that was, that's equivalent to him, I think the same shit he did with, 46:56 I need a hot, I mean with On Back That Ass Up. He waited till the end to do that little part. When he heard the song, he knew it was going to be a big ass song. So some 47:05 kind of way he fit in. He was like, I got to get on this. This ain't going on. I'm on this more. With Wayne, because y'all got him as a kid. 47:13 Yeah. Did y'all have any inkling of seeing him evolve into this, like just musically, y'all saw it from the jump? Go check out our history. 47:21 We, interviews we saying, we ain't in the future. People was looking at us like, that little dude right there, the 1 that can't curse. Like, yeah, dog, I'm tell you a 47:29 story. He really be cursing when we was doing this song. Go back and tell him, bro, you gotta take the curse words off. But even like the guitar 47:38 playing and just the rock star element, did you have a little bit of that? I think maybe 10 years ago, whatever we was working 47:46 on, he flew me out to California. And it was a studio somewhere, you know, and it was white kids 47:54 with tents camped out waiting for him to come to the studio. And I was like, this some other shit. You know what I'm saying? There was like white, 48:02 and I'm like, dude, this little teenage kids crying and shit, and they got tense waiting for this dude to come to the studio. And you like, this some 48:11 other shit right here. I heard you say you knew he was the future, but like, when did you know he was gonna be this? Man, when Wayne 48:19 was doing sound effects and shit and saying some things that a 14 or 15 year old, you wasn't 48:27 expecting to come out his mouth. And we was just looking at him like, damn man, this nigga, this dude gonna be an animal, you know what I'm saying? This dude gonna 48:35 be a real animal in the future, especially if he stick to his craft, and then it's who he was a fan of too. That had an effect on 48:44 him. He was listening to Jay-Z. Wayne was a real quiet boy. You know how quiet boy was like I knew all his parts. He 48:52 was listening to Outkast like crazy. He was putting that shit together then. Manny with Big Thomas did you have to get 49:00 convinced to now be an artist? Were you cool with just stepping out of the production scene and then now being an artist and rapping on shit? Yeah, because the thing was, 49:08 I was already writing a lot of songs, you know what I'm saying? So that was natural for me to just be like, hey, it was 49:16 kind of a little bit difficult to convince Baby of what his character was. Cause I was like, let's be 100, 49:25 bro. I'm like, we are not the strongest rappers in the world, but we gotta have something that's ours, that we own. And what we owned was, 49:33 we like, we gonna do this shit bigger than anybody if you got a fucking Cadillac I got a space shuttle I 49:43 was like we gotta bring a category that you know what I'm saying Like this our own shit and it's unmatched. You know, and once 49:51 you know, I got him in lock with it, you know, the shit went crazy cause then his head went, you like shit. It went from a goddamn, y'all created 49:59 the number 1 stunner. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It was records on that motherfucker. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And we were saying shit that 50:07 people been wanting to say. You know like where was the language where it was like, oh I can understand this shit. Like you know, like they ain't gotta be the greatest rappers. They just said some 50:16 shit that I just been wanting to get off my chest like you know what I'm saying I think I saw somewhere you explaining the fucking theory when you're 50:24 behind all the so fly hook Yeah, yeah still fly was that was 1 of the songs that was hated You know what I'm saying because there was like he's saying shit 50:32 like he got everything in his mama name, you know, and he got a quarter tank of gas, and they was like, that's not what the fuck we are, like we the big timers, and we do 50:40 that, and I'm like, bro, everybody in life lives like this. Every lyric of this shit is true, at 1 point in your fucking life. You know what 50:48 I'm saying? Every part of that, you know what I'm saying? You had some shit in your mama's name, you stun it with a little bit of gas in your car, 50:56 you know what I'm saying? Everything in that shit. And I'm like, bro, this gonna resonate. And like what Juvi was saying, my shit would always start out, I would 51:04 give a speech like I was running for president before the studio session started. Like, I'm like, listen, we winning. I don't give a fuck what 51:12 nobody say, we winning. This song gonna be a big song. If you don't want to be a part of that shit, leave. You know what I'm saying? Because 51:21 songs would come to me in my sleep and I would sing that shit all day till I got to the studio. And then I knew, like I'm like, this 1 gonna be 51:29 1. When I did Still Fly, we was in Miami, but I was like, this 1 gonna be 1. I hadn't wrote the song fucking 3 days before I recorded 51:37 it. You know how you just change shit over. And then when I start saying what the hook was, it was like, nah bro, I don't know about this 1. And I'm 51:45 like, bro, this is everybody in the world. I was like, everybody in the world gonna feel this way. I'm sitting here in 51:53 awe of that reoccurring feeling of knowing something is a hit. It's like a nonstop euphoric, 52:02 that's like some gift shit. Yeah, it is. At what point did you figure out, at what point did you realize it wasn't 52:10 just you feeling like it was a hit? When I'm saying it's a hit, people believe me. Yeah, I think we 52:19 start, mainly Nashville, Let's say Nashville. Nashville. For some reason, I don't know what the fuck happened. 52:27 Nashville took to us like crazy. And when we start doing shows in Nashville and the crowds got bigger and bigger and 52:35 bigger, and there would be shit like B-sides, like, you know, like, and this kind of like before the deal, but they knew the words to all of 52:43 that shit, you know? And I'm like, well, fuck, we ain't got to sing nothing. These motherfuckers going crazy, crazy. And I was like, OK, we onto 52:52 something. We onto something. But success for me was, it was a long time ago before even Cash Money. It 53:00 was me as a DJ, I like going, okay, I'm DJing my high school dance. That was euphoric for me. That was like, fuck, 53:08 this is what I know I'm doing. This is my feeling right here. And I'm like, I can't fail at this shit. I can't look back. Because I've done a lot of dumb shit. My mom 53:16 thought I was in college, I was doing intern shit, you know what I'm saying? And I got that money and spent that money on equipment. You know, and my dad was 53:25 big on, if you fail at this shit, you on your own. You know, and my dad was covering me a lot, so I was like, I ain't letting him down. I know I'm going to do this shit. Y'all 53:33 got a favorite city to record in or to create in? Nashville probably, outside of New Orleans, Nashville probably would be at the top of 53:41 the list. They fuck with that Nashville. First of all, very cheap. I love Nashville and New Orleans. Let's talk about this. You said very cheap. Very cheap. No studio 53:50 time probably in America is better or cheaper than Miami. You can get at a place called SST where you can order any piece of equipment you need 53:58 right there and they'll deliver it whatever you need to the studio you in. So that's an advantage right there. And all the studios 54:06 is in 1 area, it's lined up. You know what I mean? So if this 1 don't have, if this 1 booked up, you go right there, that ain't booked up, go, you're gonna get some studio time 54:14 and it's not gonna cost you a lot of money. I mean, and the other part is, my biggest hits that happened in my life was huh, 54:23 and back that ass up, right? Yeah. The first 2 that really put me on the map, they happened in Nashville. So, 54:31 I'm always, I'm always tied to Nashville. I love Nashville. What's on your rider I'm easy breezy Popeyes chicken 54:43 I need a I always like some kind of cognac. It might be do say it might be Remy Martin not 54:54 not always towels water not too much too crazy yeah I have a couple more 55:02 alcohol bottles and shit like that, but it isn't it's never too crazy What's your ride? 2 55:16 packs of Newport. 2 packs of Newport. Newport, some alcohol. Haagen-Dazs ice cream, some stupid shit. It was some bullshit. It was some bullshit on 55:24 the ride. I was telling them to see if they could get it. That shit was good. Some Nestle Quick. Chocolate 55:33 milk. Chocolate milk. Send them niggas to the stove. Niggas making groceries. Oh my God. What else 55:41 can you tell us about the new album? Man, my new album is really of age album, right? Because I am definitely not on what I was on when I did 55:49 400 Degrees. I mean, my life is totally different. But this album is well put together, production wise, the 55:58 choices of who I have to be, you know, as features on the album. And, you know, of course, if I got, I feel like if I got Man in Fresh, Birdman, VJ, 56:07 and Wayne, I feel like I got my whole system around me. And I had that. So that's what you get from this album. When you 56:15 hear the young girl, the newer acts today kinda pay homage to some of the older work or the 400 degrees, what's your reaction to 56:23 it? I feel like I did something right. I feel like I did something right. There's a lot of cats that came before me. I feel the 56:32 same way about too. You playing Rock Him Up, LL Cool J, I'm gonna have something to sing. I'm fans, right? So I 56:40 feel like when they do that, that puts me in the same lane as those cats. And I do wanna have my name mentioned when you mention the greats. That's good. What 56:48 made y'all, what was the decision to go and shoot the video for 400 Degrees? I feel like we should have benched out a video for 400 Degrees, right? That was my 56:56 favorite song on the album. And so when I got an opportunity to do it, I was like, come on, Fresh, come on, we should have benched it. And not just that, there's more songs on the album 57:04 I feel like we should do videos too, but I've been, I was speaking to do that. I love that. Yeah, I love that shit. We love that shit that you went back to. Yeah, it's like yo, we gonna grab that 57:12 1 and do a video today for it. Yeah, I mean, I know artists out there right now that got songs they did on the album. I know, I could 57:20 give you about 10 biggie records he should have did videos to, you know what I'm saying? So, if you got an opportunity to do it, do it, right? 57:28 Yeah, you about to start seeing that from us as we about to start grabbing a lot of songs that's in our catalog. We know that people love and doing videos too. And man, I'm gonna 57:36 add this. I'm gonna put in some more record sales also. Yeah, I'm sure. Remind people, yeah. Is there a new artist today that you 57:45 are motivated to work with or you're checking out? I've been working with Rod 49, it's like a nephew of mine. So I've been working with him. My 57:53 son, man, Young Juve, I think he's the next up. He on my album, doing an amazing job on 58:01 his songs that he work on. But the list is long. I can't like right off the top of my head think of everybody out there, but 58:10 I see him though. I see Lil Russell, I see Ikeem Ali, I see what's the cat out of Florida? I can't even think of his name right off the bat 58:18 in my head. But I see these cats doing anything. And I think we're going in a good direction. We got some good cats that's coming out in the future 58:26 to hold it down. Was that your first time on the same track with your son? No, we did songs in the past, but I think this is probably 1 of the best ones we 58:34 ever did It's gotta be like a mind fuck Just being on a joint with your kid you could 58:42 yeah anybody could do it anybody could do it but you gotta do a good record though. It gotta be something that, and you know, today I've been getting like, for the last couple 58:51 of years, that's what everybody's been bringing up. Man, your son sound good on that. So yeah, yeah. If you want a record with your son and he get you, do you, because it's your son, 58:59 you happy, you just let it rock with you? I want my son. Hey, you competitive though. Yes, I'm saying, you competitive. I'm not gonna let him, but I want him to. But you want him. Yeah, you want him. It's like playing 59:07 basketball with your son. Me and my son play basketball, you tell you, I'm trying to pop, trying to knock your head off. Right, right. If you get a better verse, you rewriting it? Uh-huh, do 59:16 I write it? You know what I'm saying, if he write a verse, and you do, it's a little bit better, you going back and rewriting your verse? Nah, I don't do that. Don't believe me, probably. I let 59:24 him do it. He gonna rewrite that shit. I feel like he got me on the song on the album. I really feel like he got me on it. Right, but I let him 59:33 have that. You know that the hardest thing in the world is the opposite of that. How do you tell your kid that you're not ready? You know what I'm saying? As a parent, all parents feel 59:41 this way, and I know we do. You want your kids to do better than you did. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't care what it is in any walk of life And if it's music and 59:49 if it's rapping if he can do better than I can I'm gonna sit there say okay Maybe I need to sit my ass down a little bit. You know I'll get my shit together 59:58 Him and his son the same person so we can re-write it, Matt gonna re-write his too. So the song never come out. He don't like to lose. 1:00:06 He don't like to lose. He do not like to lose. And I'm the same way. What does success look like now in terms of 1:00:14 the music making process? I know 25, 30 years ago, y'all trying to tear the charts up, get the most sales, the hottest records. When you make music now, is that still the goal 1:00:22 or is that something else that you're looking for when you're making music? This lies down my promise. I didn't make goals. I let everybody else make the goals. But for 1:00:30 me, I just want it to be relevant, be heard. Play on the radio a little bit, of course, you know, be heard like that, get a little social media play. The 1:00:38 main thing, work, get booked for shows. What's the reason we doing this? We want the record sales, we want to get booked for shows. And that's happening, so it's 1:00:46 all love. It's all good. You the same way? Yeah, I mean, the money is in shows, especially at our age. Like, you know, there's no special effects, 1:00:55 no fucking bat signal, none of that. Like, it's just keep being relevant, you know? And that's our job right 1:01:03 now, to stay in your face and keep on giving you stuff of substance that you like to, like where it don't feel like, man, I wish this nigga 1:01:11 would just go away. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm not trying to do what the youngsters do though. I'm doing my 50 plus thing, I'm not trying to do. 1:01:19 Well that's what I was gonna say, it's hard to not chase the like because there's a chase the hit thing then it's like Try not to sound like these young guys. What's the hint today? You can't If 1:01:31 we if we could all if we all knew that answer You know if we all knew that answer we would all make a bunch of, it'd be thousands of hits out right now, right? 1:01:40 So yeah. Manny, have you started getting the calls, the catalog calls? Oh yeah, definitely. Definitely. So have you? 1:01:48 Yeah, yeah. I'm on my second. I'm on my second. Wait, wait, hold on. I'm on my second. Fuck yeah. What the fuck y'all thought? I'm on my second. I'm white 1:01:57 laughing too. I saw a little bit too. White laughing. You like, I know. I saw a little bit too. We up. I saw a little bit too. Oh, so 1:02:05 he got the fuck out of there, boy. You know, if you think about it, you know, this a crazy shit because people say, you know, like, 1:02:13 we've heard everybody say like, oh, you know, my shit is this and I go to the mailbox and blah blah blah There ain't nobody using that shit. It ain't no money exactly 1:02:22 nobody don't tell the truth about that part If nobody ain't using your shit or your shit ain't you know and in no rotation or nothing that shit 1:02:30 is just some shit you talking about at a dinner party. Shout out to Bruno Mars. I own my publishing. You like, and what, who's using it? Bruno Mars just used some albums, some of slow motion stuff. Who the fuck is using it? Who's working these records? 1:02:38 Yeah. Yeah, I think people take that for granted. Did you ever have to turn somebody down from wanting to quit? Oh yeah, 1:02:46 yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying. It's been some shit where I'm like, what the fuck? Oh my God. And it's some songs I've made where I feel like, 1:02:54 you know, like the bar was kind of like, this was a crazy, get drunk, white girl song or whatever. So it ain't much you gotta do to fuck this, but it's people that fuck them up. 1:03:03 You like, you fuck this up. This up. This a layup. Yeah. I mean, you 1:03:11 have people that try to explain, like, okay, you like, so Even with me sometimes, where they just like, I don't know why you, I'm like, this a song 1:03:19 about booty shaking and ass music. This ain't nothing. This is not a rap anthem. This is made for girls to shake their ass. You put 1:03:27 Martin Luther King on Back That Ass Up. I'm like, no, man, we can't let you use that. Do you tell them 1:03:35 to go back and re-record at least? Do you give them another shot? Sometimes I know that they not, you could tell by some artists, you're not going to be able to fix 1:03:44 it. You just don't have it. You just don't have it. And I think sometimes record companies, whoever is your company don't have the guts to say it because you got the 1:03:52 money. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like, man, dude, this ain't gonna work. Can't do it. Yeah, I can't let you do this. I'm talking 1:04:00 about my name up out here. Yeah. On the flip side of that, have you ever heard a beat or a song or a concept and been like, 1:04:08 damn, wish I had a thought of something like that. Oh yeah, definitely. Like, you know, even Like what I capitalize on 1:04:16 was orchestra. Like, you know, I've been doing that shit. Like, you know, and just sitting in 1, I was like, I wish I would have done this shit a long, long time ago. 1:04:25 Like, you know, and start doing my own shows this way. Like my own DJ sets with an orchestra behind me. You know 1:04:33 what I'm saying? And I'm like, I wish I would have thought, because the sounds are what it sounds like, and there's so many of my songs 1:04:41 that have string lines, and that have all the elements of that. And it sounds even more incredible when you got a whole orchestra behind you doing it. 1:04:50 And all of a sudden, cats our age then got jazzy as fuck. They wanna dress up. You know what I'm saying? They wanna show up black tie. Like you know, 1:04:58 and I'm just like. The Jeezy Brothers. Yeah, Like you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, shit, I wish I would have thought of this shit, but it's right on time right now. It 1:05:07 was a story where some of the members of Jagged Edge was talking about how they felt toward JD when 1:05:15 JD did the In My Bed remix for Drew Hill, because Jagged Edge was Jermaine Dupree artist. So like how you give this number 1 1:05:23 hit to the competition on the chart? Was there ever a time where any of the homies stepped to you like- Boy you would have hated the earlier 1:05:31 me. You would have knew all this, because bounce music was built on me. But I gave everybody songs. Everybody that was beefing. Motherfuckers was like. 1:05:40 Yeah. He was on blast both sides of the field. I'm in the studio going, hey bro, you 1:05:49 just said your mama ain't shit. What you gonna say back? What you gonna do, dude? Here's a beat. Here's 1:05:58 a beat. Don't say my name, dog. So you know, there's so many bounce records early on, like, folks was like, 1:06:06 I didn't know he did all that shit. Man, some of the beats, man, he told me he made. I was like, damn, bro, you made that shit. He said, yeah, bro, I told him to don't say my name, dog. Just 1:06:16 saying that. Were you just shipping out packs or you was cooking up? I was just cooking up like that. Oh, this nigga's crazy. Yeah. 1:06:24 He's crazy. He's a fresh 1. Yeah. A fresh dude, from off the fresh hook. Nobody heard this 1. Hey, bro, I just left the studio. And they going, hold on, y'all, 1:06:32 lads. Like, you know what I'm talking about? He got to me. What y'all want me to plug up at? And 1:06:41 who paying for this shit? Somebody got paid. Yeah, yeah. Somebody got paid. Juvi, it might be hard. Can you give us 1:06:49 a, let's just say you have to put together a super group of artists from the South. A super group? A super group, like A34 member super 1:06:57 group. Include yourself in it if you want. Oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna be in the beat. You're saying you're like, I'm in the beat, bruh. Three-four. Okay. 1:07:06 Don't forget your brother Plies. I'm about to... Me, T.I., Plies, and Wayne. Okay. 1:07:16 Saba. Yeah. Come on. Definitely gonna have some hits. And if I swap plies, I'm gonna take Future. So, 1:07:25 it's 1 of those 2. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm making that swap. What about Sam? Yeah, yeah. Brother or not? I'm 1:07:34 sorry, sorry buddy. I need it. That's all. That's nonstop hits right there. Yeah, no matter. What do y'all 1:07:42 stand on the usage of AI in hip hop today? He got to answer that 1, because I'm lost, I'm 1:07:50 confused. I'm going to be honest. Like, I don't see where I benefit from it at, but I've been seeing some people AI my 1:07:58 songs though. Oh yeah, for sure. Back that ass up, the old school record. They didn't sit the shit to me, man. Juve, you 1:08:06 stole his man record. Well, there's some people out there that are brokering deals for their AI rights. Yeah, they are, 1:08:15 they are. So, it's crazy. It's good and bad, because you got to think about early hip hop. Like, you know, in our era, a lot 1:08:23 of songs was made off of modules. Like, and what I mean is you had a demo if you bought a module, like, you know what I'm saying? And If you was demoing the 1:08:31 flute, the flute might have had some jamming shit. And then the producer made that his own, you know, and that would be equivalent to damn near what AI is doing. 1:08:39 You got a lot of songs that only geeks know about that. That's where that shit came from. Sound libraries. Yeah, Like it came from what you know what I'm saying? Well, 1:08:47 you know exactly what I'm saying Like if you bought like like what's equivalent to a plugin right now But if you bought a module like a Yamaha keyboard 1:08:56 module and it had like okay This is just the demo song the demo song a lot of times motherfuckers was like that shit You got 1:09:04 it right. You got it right. I can turn that shit into something even before that they used to make there It's called library records where they would make music to put commercials and shit like 1:09:12 that. And there's thousands of library records out there still. And motherfuckers was ripping them off like crazy. Still are, still are. Ripping them off like crazy. So, 1:09:20 you know, and this is just another version of that, but there are some people who just take the whole thing. And you know, but I think if you use it as a tool 1:09:29 where you like, oh, this shit got a crazy ass bass line or something. And now with STEM technology, you could take whatever the fuck you want from that and make it 1:09:37 your own. Like you know what I'm saying? Make it, start it, make it an idea. But I don't agree with a whole fucking song coming from AI and you created 1:09:45 an artist that, who the fuck is this? You know what I'm saying? All right, you're gonna have Timbo at your neck. I mean, I'll use it, 1:09:53 I'll use it. His AI artist started clapping back at the fact that the AI artist made a diss track to people that was talking shit. Wait, but he, wait, wait. 1:10:02 Yes, it's sick out here. It's some ultimate reality shit right now. Wow. If somebody, he made that diss record then, not the AI artist 1:10:10 on his own. The AI artist did it on his own. AI is possible, it's all kind of crazy shit. I'm with you. I don't understand it, bro. This shit terminate it, man. 1:10:18 This shit is some crazy shit. I don't understand it, bro. I really don't understand it. I don't know how to share location on my phone. I don't know how to get to none of this stuff. Oh, you're bad like me, bro. My 1:10:26 daughter run my social media, bro. I don't, people be at my neck saying, why you didn't, I be like, look, I be wanting to post things, but I gotta confer with her before I 1:10:34 post it. Every time I post something, I write the wrong thing on it. You know what I'm saying? So I always send it to her, I say, post this for Danny. I write it. So 1:10:44 I'm kind of lame on technology, too. A few, maybe a year or so back, DOC said he was doing another album. He was going to use AI 1:10:52 to recreate his voice. I'm mad I was excited about that. I think that's different. We kind of was like damn I want to hit a DOC again. Of course we can. So 1:11:00 that's why I said he's got his goods and his bads. You know what I'm saying? BNC, BNC, BNC. I just talked to Benny yesterday and he said that. You know and 1:11:08 I had him explaining it to me. I said, bro, how the fuck, you know, he said, well I just feed my acapellas in it and it picks up my algorithms and you know 1:11:17 my, and I'm like, and he was like, I'm convinced it's me. And I'm like, that's fucking crazy. That's crazy. That's a great use for it. It is. Yeah, 1:11:25 for people like that, I think yeah, hell yeah. If you brothers had to choose, if it were totally up to y'all with the snap of a finger. Would records come 1:11:33 out on Tuesday or Friday? Tuesday. Old school. That's question A. Question B is? You know, I call Tuesday, Tuesday 1:11:41 is Mardi Gras Day in New Orleans, and I call it Juve Tuesday. So I'm definitely gonna say Tuesday. I miss Tuesdays and I also feel like 1:11:49 the albums would have a longer shelf life with fans if it went back to being released on Tuesday. If it was our shit that was coming 1:11:59 out on Tuesday, fans made our business by Friday before that week and come we knew what our songs was on this album. Yeah, now it's just 1:12:07 things just. It was up to me, you would have to buy the album. You can't break that shit. I still buy it. I got a problem with, Now see this the other 1:12:15 part people didn't know about Cash Money. Cash Money wasn't putting singles out. So you couldn't go buy back that ass up once. You had to buy that album. We had to buy 1:12:24 the whole album. And that was the trick that we bought to the game. When we came to Universal, that was something that they did that we adamantly said, oh no, we 1:12:32 ain't doing no singles. Why would we kill our own album? Why would we do that? We put the single out, mother go buy the single and you kill your whole album. 1:12:40 That's why we don't have platinum singles and none of that shit. We have that. Oh wow. It made no sense. The song was just ready-driven. It was, but you still gotta go buy this album. You gotta go 1:12:48 buy this album. You gotta buy this album. You wanna get the song? Yeah, that makes sense, yeah. If you want the song, you're going to buy the album. Right now, I don't like the fact that you can go buy 1. 1:12:56 I don't like that. Well, my next question with my follow-up was gonna be, at the snap of a finger, would you prefer to go back to fans 1:13:05 having to go out to the stores and purchase the album, or would you double down in streaming? I would want them to go to the stores. I would chat, snap 1:13:13 a finger. The streaming, fuck that streaming shit. Like, We ain't gonna never figure that out. The way they doing business and what they doing, 1:13:21 we'll never figure that out. It's designed for you not to figure it out anyway. So we gotta take, we gotta like, with that it's kinda like, take the good with the bad, just 1:13:29 hope they being honest, right? But we'll never know how they'll... They're not. They're not. I think creatively also it has started to weed out some of the people in this shit that 1:13:38 only going ahead and good for a song and can't really give you an actual project. It's not real artists at this point. It's just niggas who's getting records and you're just 1:13:46 more of a face on an influencer. So, man, I'ma get 4000, man, 4 with 8000 dollars, how much you get for 1000000 streams? Like 4? Or streams? 1:13:54 1000000 streams is like $20, 000. But when you see cats that don't need the money selling shit, You know what I'm saying? You know shit done went bad. 1:14:03 You know when you see like a Billy Idol or this fucking Justin Timberlake and you're like, they selling this shit. They don't even need them. 1:14:11 They're like, this shit is kind of done. You know what I'm saying? That's the point. Yeah, no, I think it's spooky out there. I think it's spooky out there. Now 1:14:19 it's smart to do what NBA Youngboy did. Build a catalog, sell it, bill it, sell it, bill it, sell it. That's the new wave right 1:14:27 now. Cause the thinking in that, how old is NBA Youngboy? He's, what, 27? I don't really know. I don't really 1:14:36 know. But I guess the thinking would be, I've heard people say this, I could sell the rights to the songs that I've created thus far and I could go have a whole new batch 1:14:44 in the next Yeah, I could do this shit. If you love this shit, who's to stop you from doing this shit? You know what I'm saying? This was my first batch. Now I'm going at it again. That's 1:14:52 what Chris Brown did. So that's what The Weeknd did. Yeah. He cashing out back to back. He'd getting ready to cash. He done built another catalog. He didn't cash out again. Can't 1:15:01 get mad at that. Yeah. Yeah, I never thought about dipping into this dark world out there, get the cash money mini series. 1:15:10 Yeah, you know, anything if it makes sense to me, I'm, you know. I understand your language. I already know what you keep trying 1:15:18 to say. You already know. The money, the money, the money. The money gotta be right. At all. I get it. Pay how you wait. Yeah. The 1:15:26 money gotta be right. The money. What? You gotta get it right. Yeah. He's like, this right now. Just thinking some new shit. Nah, I think people would love to see 1:15:34 it. I think people would love to see that. Any pressure to figure out the TikTok algorithm with the new project? Nah, man, 1:15:42 my daughter's figured it out. I've been doing good on TikTok, but for me, how? I don't even understand the whole algorithm thing. I 1:15:50 don't really get it. They're like, man, dad has to fix the algorithm. Has to, like what? Yeah. Like y'all have made a new fucking word and they want me to 1:15:58 accept it? Teach me the word first. Fuck it. Teach me what it means first, and then I'm good with it. But yeah, I'm following the leader right now 1:16:07 when it comes to that. Advice you would give to your younger self? Advice I would give to own everything. Own 1:16:16 this shit is everything. Yeah. That's good, man. Yeah. Mine is 1:16:24 fuck homeboy business. I don't believe in it, you know what I'm saying? Because we always want to take everybody with us. That's naturally 1:16:32 who we are as black people. We want to grab everybody. That's my dog. I want y'all to come along with it. But if you're not trained for that shit, I can't 1:16:41 let you be my manager. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? We'll bring our bro and we'll give them positions that they're not ready for. Everybody 1:16:49 don't get lucky like LeBron, they have a good crew, they're actually... That's 1 in 1000000. That's what I said, like everybody don't get that lucky. Yeah, you don't get lucky, most 1:16:57 people, yeah. Yeah, you know, and The biggest fucking fuck up of all time and rap has been the entourage 1:17:12 The shit that told down everything Something that's important when somebody do something dumb. You know what I'm saying? You 1:17:20 run Skip from the block and he fucking up everything and they remember your ass. You know what I'm saying? That's all you now. Is it any value though to bring in some 1:17:28 people like either for safety, security, just for being comfortable? Nah. No, cause he ain't trained for that. Higher security. Higher security. Somebody take a charge. He ain't trained 1:17:37 for that shit. He gonna kill somebody. Your ass gonna kill somebody. You got to kill him. You gonna buy a career killer with you. What you think 1:17:45 he gonna do? He gonna kill me. He can't wait. He gonna talk it out. You 1:17:54 think he about to talk it out? My brother, my brother, come over. Can I talk to you for a minute? He ain't about to do that. And then you see a Korean killer he gonna kill you. You talking to your dentist. He ready to 1:18:02 kill that fucking man. What he saying? You need to be medicated. What he saying? Get the fuck out of the way. All that testosterone 1:18:11 booted up in that nigga man. Kill that nigga. Kill that nigga with a root canal man. That man fucking hump bucket in the dentist office. Leave 1:18:19 his ass at home. Those be lessons you don't learn until you in debt, fucked up, until you really done went and read your 1:18:27 contract. Now you're looking at all these things, you like, Oh, I paid for all the Mr. Chow's. Oh, got it, got it, 1:18:35 got it. And you know, and it's hard to, I guess, get that to leave after it's done, because everything is done. You like, listen, bro, 1:18:43 I ain't got nothing else. I'm cracked right now. This motherfucker like, so it's over with? Yeah, niggas over with. Y'all fucked it all up. 1:18:51 Or the opposite, I'm a star now. I don't, let's. Yeah, but right or wrong, you know, shit, 1:18:59 you have to resurrect this again. So you've learned some lessons from you. You had to drop a few people. That's why y'all, y'all, y'all. Oh, yeah, 1:19:08 that's happened a few times with me. That's happened a few times with me. But yeah, I think for the, for the people that are really talented and the people 1:19:16 that's gonna get to it, that's gonna be a part of your story. Yeah. Like bumping your head, bringing the person you wasn't supposed to bring, getting stabbed in 1:19:24 the back, fucking a breakup of some sort, somewhere. Yeah, yeah. It's gonna be on you to go back to the, what 3K say, great 1:19:32 things are made in small rooms. It's on you to go back to the small room. Put it together, yeah. Figure it out. Yeah. You know, real shit. That's why I was with 1:19:40 the bitches early in my career. Get it over with. I learned to get away from the niggas. My first bankruptcy was the entourages. Entourages, 1:19:50 just going around. I ain't ever like that, you crazy? And they ain't never gonna believe that you don't. They gonna always think that you have 1:19:58 it and you have to spread it out with the body that you bring around. The entitlement is there. Then they had to fight the niggas after you firing. Right, right, right. That 1:20:06 is crazy. They don't go easy and they don't go quietly. They always gotta go running it down. They know where your aunt live, everybody. They know 1:20:14 everything. You grew up with niggas. It's crazy that you know you can't post your accomplishments no more And you know cuz that shit to somebody else it resonates to 1:20:22 you owe me something Mm-hmm, you just like well fuck. I just took a picture with my car. I feel like I deserve this I went motherfucking like I know you got it nigga. I see 1:20:30 you taking pictures next to the car. Yeah. I just did 20 shows and 2 died. But I do got it. 1:20:39 I came by myself. I got it. I earned it. I earned it and just because I got it don't mean you entitled to it. Right. That's why they don't get it. Shit, I want to ask shit. Y'all 1:20:47 have a question. What's 1 of the craziest things somebody ever asked you like that was money related Well, you like this motherfucking truth First 1:20:59 I get a little bit of money. He asked me he asked me for 100 K and he said I'm gonna give it back to you when the Lord 1:21:07 tells me his time he did it on the Facebook message 1:21:15 I just left it read and never responded. I ain't talked to that nigga since. 15 years. The nigga broke Christ into the shit. He said 1:21:23 it was emergency. The Lord knows what's right. The Lord knows what's right. Well, they told me not to answer that. Breadwad's nut, but I've had 1:21:32 people ask me to ask other people for fame. Oh, yeah Support their business 1:21:40 endeavor Whether you like it or not because then they start telling you about it be the worst idea you ever heard They expect you to fund it 1:21:49 Unrealistic shit from family members that maybe you didn't see in a while or that think you all the way up. See, I broke on DJ Clue Tapes, so I really 1:21:58 didn't have no money when people thought I had some money. We was just on some mixtapes talking shit. But yeah, I had niggas ask for a crib 1 time. Damn. 1:22:06 God damn. Yeah. That's like, you going big. Fuck it, I need a house. Well, cause the niggas that's protecting you feel like, hey, if you moving. I'm moving too, yeah. 1:22:14 Like, I know I'm in the area somewhere because we're gonna protect you over there. I'm like no nobody over here I need no protection over here We 1:22:24 good over here That's why I'm going there This Alpine So I asked 1 of my homies that I knew from 1:22:32 a long time ago, I asked him, man, I ain't seen his mama. I said, well, how your mama doing? He said, man, she's doing good, man. You gonna buy a house? It was 1:22:40 like cut short and straight face like, she really need a house, bro. And you got it. She's like, man, you come to my concert. You 1:22:49 come to my concert and ask me that, bro. I'm like, man, I just was acting like she was doing shit. He pissed me off so much I start cracking jokes. 1:22:58 I said, nigga, your mom probably called the police on me. Nigga, I don't know. I'm like, why? I don't know. Do you got it to add up? Yeah. Yeah. 1:23:06 Do you got it? The number that they have that you got it don't necessarily be the number you got it at. Oh no, man, I don't know. But you do. Isn't it your right to be like, 1:23:15 I gotta give it to you. I ain't gotta give it to you. I worked for this shit. I had a family member tell me like, hey bro, if I don't get this money on Thursday, they gonna 1:23:23 take my leg. And I'm like, they gonna take your leg, nigga. They gonna take my leg. They gonna take my leg. You been on this show on a good 1. Yeah, they gonna take your leg. But then 1:23:31 he broke that bitch down. I said, well, you started at, you know, like 40. Now you talking about, but I take 25. You know what I'm saying? Shit. Man, They gonna take your leg. He broke that bitch down. I said, well, you started at, you know, like 40. Now you talking about, but I take 25. You know what I'm saying? Shit. Man, 1:23:40 they gonna take your leg. You better get that shit. Yeah. You need to buy that leg. You was trying to get that sport leg. When you broke it down, you know that sport 1:23:48 leg that woman that came up to you and you brought her to the runner's elbow. When you broke it down, you sent them down to that old lady with the little piece with the metal. They 1:23:56 go down to this shit. I was like, they say by Thursday you're going to be done? Man, it's going to be a cool eulogy, bro. You did it big while you was here. Oh, 1:24:04 that's the best thing they can do. Give a deadline as to when they need it. Let me know exactly how long to get missing. I got you at 1:24:12 05:00. You know these dead old thugs? I'm gonna take me a trip. Come back Friday. See you Friday. There's 1:24:21 been some names floating around out there. I didn't bring it up all day. There's been some names floating around on the tax evasion tip. All down. 1:24:30 I seen a few names. I'm not a messy guy, so I ain't bringing it up. But can you, can y'all, we all been getting to it a 1:24:38 long time. Can y'all speak to the importance of not having your name caught up in the tax evasion stuff? Wow, man. Hey man, don't play with them. I gotta shout 1:24:46 out to OGs that have never had their name brought up. Don't play with them people, bro. Like my guy Orbit is a tax man, right? And we call him them people. You know what I'm 1:24:54 saying? Don't play with them people. When them folks come. Man, take the end and take the second syllable. Government. Government don't take, bro. Pay 1:25:02 them all the time. You'd rather be, you'd rather be, have less money in your bank account and not 1:25:11 owe them than to have a full bank account and owe them people, because I'm telling you, they gonna take that and then the way they come, you know, the way they come. The interest 1:25:19 on it. Yeah. Their interest in the Pimblers will kill you. They're gonna lock the countdown, first of all. Then they're gonna pop up at your property that they think you own and they're gonna start 1:25:27 taking things that they think is worth taking. And that just don't sound like a good thing. That's horrible, bro. So man, just get, 1:25:35 and I know there's a lot of cats that got back taxes and stuff that dealt with these record companies that got these record deals and didn't understand that they had to pay 1:25:43 taxes because they thought the record company was paying it for them. Hey bro, get you a tax lawyer and go back there and do some research on yourself and find out and straighten 1:25:51 that out because this is how it goes. If you don't make contact to them, if you don't contact them and have a conversation with them, then that's gonna make 1:25:59 them come at you more aggressive. So go make sure you do that. All my young cats, please go do that. Yeah, shit, 1:26:08 I was young enough to, like, you know, in my young career, you know, I had some tax shit not knowing how that shit work. And if you wanna talk about 1:26:16 a letter that's well written, that will scare the shit out of you. The IRS will write you some shit and use some words where you like, 1:26:24 this shit is fucking, I'm gonna kill myself tomorrow. I'm gonna make my fucking, just scared the shit out of me. I need some, I need some. I need some. I 1:26:32 need some. When you read it and it say how much money you made, and you like, damn. Where the fuck did that go? And some of that shit, that shit you never even saw. You know 1:26:40 what I'm saying? Because it was a fucked up deal or some shit. But, and even just to educate you in this, you know, 1000000 dollars is not 1000000 dollars, you know, 1:26:48 if you did a deal. You got to factor what the taxes is on that shit. And, you know, some of us don't get that chance to bounce back for a second time, 1:26:56 you know, because like you got to think about, fuck, we had that moment where we just like, I'm about to buy the fucking Bentley and I'm gonna get the crib and you like, and I got 1:27:05 300 left over. You ain't got shit left over. You got negative 200 left over. Yeah, man, I don't give a shit. You know what I'm saying, man? Credit, the credit, 1:27:13 credit and not, and not owing taxes, way more important. Yeah. Yeah. Juvi, you, you, you got a, a lot of people past 1:27:21 year, so just really getting hyped off of like a couple of rap beefs and people going back and forth. Could you see yourself today, like let's just say somebody came out and threw 1:27:29 a little line at you or something. Could you see yourself going back and forth with somebody today? I wouldn't do it on the record. But I'm 1 of them people, you're gonna have to have that same energy 1:27:37 when you see me. And I'm not allowed to looking for you either. I'm not going out there looking for you. Put that out there. But we in the same industry, 1:27:46 we gonna bump heads. So, you gotta have that same energy. But no, I'm not going at him. Man, Casen says things about me in the past. I don't respond, especially 1:27:54 if I think he trash. But I need to respond to these folks. But I'm more 1:28:02 of a live and let live kind of guy, so I don't respond to that. That's beneath me anyway. I look at it like, man, come on, bro. There must be some 1:28:11 South shit. Don't nobody up here say nothing bad about you now. I've never heard that personally. Not nobody up here. 1:28:19 Nobody never dissed me out publicly. But I've had a few people say a few things about me. Not in the south. Can y'all clear something up 1:28:27 that the older rappers in New York have been struggling with? How should 50 plus year old rappers 1:28:35 dress? How they dress and where y'all from? I put on with them. Over here they calling niggas, Teen Your Citizen. They 1:28:43 calling niggas names for keeping it hip hop. Putting a hoodie and some baggy jeans. These young kids are fucking jerks. I 1:28:53 mean, check us out 20 years ago and you'd see how we was dressing then. If you see a big, vast difference, then say something. 1:29:01 I think I- But me, man, I dress- Y'all niggas look like hip hop to me. We just wanna work. I look like what I looked like this, fuck, look, this is a Garten Cottrell. You 1:29:10 know, you know. See this? Fuck. The Cosby Show, man. Fuck, Garten Cottrell. This is seniority. This is seniority. This 1:29:18 is wisdom. You know what I'm saying? So I'm gonna wear what I wanna wear, man. My wife like it, nigga. Somebody, shit, 1 1:29:26 of the shows we was doing, a dude told, he said Air Force One's a dad tennis shoe. They said dad. And I was like, man, get the fuck off of me, 1:29:34 man. That's funny. I was like, boy, if you don't get your little young cuckoo ass away. No, the bigger mind fuck, they tried to 1:29:42 do away with new Air Force Ones. Yeah. Like, you can't have them new and fresh out of box. They gotta look like. But that was my argument, remember when I was saying 1:29:50 that? I said, bro, white girls have fucked up Air Force 1. Dirty as fuck. You know? They don't like them until they run down. They gonna do them on purpose. 1:29:59 Wait, so they're saying that you can't do, clean was the word? You gotta do the dirty white girls? They was talking about that in the room. They was talking about that in our dressing room. Ain't nothing like something. 1:30:07 I'm wearing a bitch's clean. That's my era. That's how, and I'm not, and I, to each his own. And it's a question for you as an artist. Do you feel 1:30:15 like, like, let's just say the way Youngboy is accepted right now, his following is crazy. Was that you at 1:30:23 your era? You know, because it might be just misunderstood where it's just like, well fuck, somebody was probably saying that about us too when they was younger 1:30:32 going these motherfuckers is crazy. I think they were saying that about us definitely. Yeah for sure. When we was young shit, when we 1:30:40 was young we all... I was in 5, 6 XTs. Yeah, yeah. When I look back on some of the shit we was wearing and we was doing, I was 1:30:48 like, I'm more than sure they probably said the same shit about us. I was this big going to ask for a size 38 in jeans, 40s in jerseys. Even 1:30:56 the jerseys. He was wearing jerseys. I came to New York, man, everybody's shit was big. I was like, that nigga don't wear no 2X. They 1:31:04 got a 2X on with the T-shirt under it, hat to the back. That was New York. The jersey shit was straight up New York shit. I can tell 1:31:13 you 1 thing, old dudes having a good time right now though. You go to a restaurant. You just see a bunch of young girls with old dudes. We back 1:31:21 dawg, we back dawg. They fucking with us. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They having the time of their life right now. You go to any 1:31:29 cool restaurant, there's old dudes in there with young girls getting fanned and shit going. Give it to me mama. That 1:31:46 is hilarious. So when's the album coming out? March 27th. There we go. 12 o'clock. March 26th is my birthday on 1:31:54 the 26th. Happy birthday. Happy early birthday. 1 more year. It's 51. Shout out 1:32:02 to the 50 Club. We in this bitch. How you celebrating? That's big. That's a milestone. How we celebrating? Man, I'm boring. I ain't gonna lie. I smoke boring shit. I ain't 1:32:10 gonna do nothing. I'm boring, bro. I don't do. If my family don't do something for me, If they don't do something for me, I'm boring as shit. 1:32:19 I'm fucking with watching basketball games or something. Smoke a little bit, drink a little bit, that's all I do. Some old dudes shit, we gonna have Maze playing, 1:32:27 doing crawfish, playing dominoes. That's pretty much what I like. It's funny, but He hit 1:32:35 it right on the head, that's exactly what I'm gonna do. Yeah. No, that sounded like a good time. Great time. I can't wait. Konyak, Domino's, talk shit. 1:32:44 That's it. Oh man. I can't wait to hear the project. I can't wait to call you brothers for my for my ceremony 1:32:52 We got you bro. Come on, man. I'm gonna make it good for you, sir. I got you bro. I'll be there I'm gonna be that nigga if these niggas come out and perform that shit in my what? 1:33:01 Love to do it Add enough now What? Man, we would love to do it, bro. Let's shut up the arrangement. I can see him adding up now. I'ma pay it. When you get married? Huh? When is it? Answer that. 1:33:09 We don't want to spoil it cause she listening. She's an avid fan of this. Yo, you cool? You cool? She's an avid watcher 1:33:18 of the show, so I wouldn't want to spoil it. I wouldn't want to spoil it. Smart move. Smart move, dude. But I'm in the 1:33:26 process. I'm in the process. I'm going to tell you like my cousin told me. I was doing that, what you were doing. He 1:33:35 came in there and said, hey man, stop ifing. If it was a fifth, we'd all be 1:33:43 drunk. Give me a damn date, man. I don't know if I'm gonna be here. That's prophetic, man, I love that word. You know what it is? I don't know. Why would you sit with that woman? It wasn't pretty. You don't 1:33:52 look like you played double Dutch. You're a double Dutch, you got it. That's why I... Nah, he not. What happened? Dutch master. Because we being vulnerable. I'll answer 1:34:00 that, vulnerable, even though it may sound nuts. Like, you know they say that women have this picture of how they want their wedding to be 1:34:08 and how they want their proposal and all that shit to go. Like, I've learned, like, the girls, when they in love, They don't just go to the city on, they don't 1:34:16 care. They just want to be with you, they want you to commit, and they want that stability. But selfishly, like, I had a vision for how I kind 1:34:24 of want it to look. Oh, okay. Like if it was up to her, we would be done, and that would be the end, But I can't let it go like that. I know I know it's 1:34:32 important to her. It also is important to me I want it to look away nigga. Hey, bro. Listen, that's beautiful I made every I had man. I had everybody my damn 1:34:41 way man They say man what I am all y'all best man just line up From man from being at his wedding. I'll 1:34:50 be the best nigga. Don't detour this fella from having this big time. Because we be there man, just make sure you got some cognac. 1:34:58 Nah, I'll have it. I'll have it there man. Some Popeye's. We gonna have it there. This ain't a double Dutch thing. This ain't a double Dutch 1:35:07 thing. Listen, we have any final questions? Final questions? Nah, this was great, man. Yeah, this was great. Thank y'all. Hey, y'all got some wedding invites for him? Yeah, he 1:35:15 next up. You good? They on deck, they tied it. How long you been with your girl 3 years, okay? No sorry 4 years You 1:35:27 gotta have the numbers right Don't 1:35:38 slip on that, because Missing Anna, Berkshaw, and stuff, and birthdays. I don't miss none of those. She won't miss any of them. He won't miss any of them. Yeah, yeah, I'll be on that. So you on it. 1:35:46 Yeah, I'm on it. I'm on it. Y'all got a good support system, that's all. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. When you with your fellas and y'all like, I don't know, whatever, you know, like, just that 1:35:54 we meeting at the bar talking, talk about that shit, it's therapeutic, bro. You know what I'm saying? You gotta talk about that shit with homies and people that you know. 1:36:02 That's a fact. That's a fact. Because if you keep it all inside, you're fucking up. Yeah, you're taking time out. You know, because there's somebody that know better than you. You know, and it's always an old dude that's 1:36:11 like, hey boy, you just better shut your goddamn mouth. You know what I'm saying? That'd be the best advice right there. That's the best advice. That'd be the best advice. He's fitting there. You know what I'm saying? If you need 1:36:19 somebody to talk to. You know somebody. You know somebody for me? Oh, I got you. You need to point me in the right direction. I'm gonna approach you to somebody to talk 1:36:27 to. But if you get married and sell your catalog after you get married. You trying to hold on to assets and shit? 1:36:36 Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise, Manny Fresh and Juve! We 1:36:46 want to thank Juve now and Manny Fresh. Thank you, man. That was fucking awesome, man. Legends only up here. Legends 1:36:55 only up here, that's it, man. That should be the new policy. They were absolutely great. Yeah, they were. Had a blast. And I'm glad we were able to do that. I know 1:37:03 there were some scheduling issues for a few times but to hear those brothers sound so good and great and well thought out and intentional with how they 1:37:11 moving and just Jim after Jim Jim Jim They look good and then Manny Fresh Manny Fresh is a fucking comedian Yeah, 1:37:20 they walk in with good energy off they did they did big niggas be funny He got that type of like he's hilarious. He got 1:37:28 I sold my catalog Everything is funny. Yeah, you know that in the job. I sold everything. Yeah anything that I stood near 1:37:39 Shout out shout out to those brothers We're joined now back with Queens flip and our good brother Antoine. Huh? 1:37:47 You thought the fun ended there? You're wrong. If that's what you thought the fun ended when they walked out the door, hey, buckle up your seat. You're in 1:37:55 for a ride. Where do y'all go on these breaks? Yo. Who, me? I was outside chilling Taking a rest. 1:38:04 You went to the breeze was blowing He was inside boy, 1:38:12 I was outside I'm on his ass. He's about can't teach him that the 1:38:20 fuck you talking to you. I let that go He said that same shit about me before. You can't tell niggas they can't teach you that. You did. That's not what I said. You said it on the pod. You're lying. 1:38:28 That's not what I said. If Ish said that to y'all, I'm gonna assume that he was joking. I never said that to Imani or what did you say to Imani? You know, Imani says something about I'm 1:38:37 gonna shoot you some beer. I ain't letting them do this shit I'm I'm gonna do Imani talking about something and Imani was like, You 1:38:46 said It was something about business and then Joe came back later and was like, I'm already trying to tell you. And I was like, yeah, he ain't know what he was talking about. So he, that's 1:38:54 what happened. You say, Monty can't teach me anything. It sounds like a good time for a rewind episode. But I was like, yo, he ain't all 1:39:02 that he was talking about. And so he tried to take me to homey court the next time he came in. Got you. What'd you say to me just now? He was 1:39:10 like, yo, I'm a teacher, man. I said, you can't teach me nothing, nigga, except about algorithms and content and shit like that. You said that after, but you said I can't teach you anything first, he was 1:39:18 dead serious. But it's okay, we all learn lessons. What you got to teach him? That you have 1 coming your way, brother. You gonna learn, brother. That's like a threat. 1:39:27 You're gonna teach him something, right? I got to teach it. You gotta teach your old nigga the 50 something, he just stuck in his ways. That's not true. I'm hoping to learn a magic Yeah, 1:39:35 I learned from everybody. I let you I let him lie on his own It's feel like he could learn from y'all some like everybody in here. Ask him shit. Yeah, 1:39:43 that's a fact He didn't make it with the most knowledge We don't really talk. You don't call Joe. He the nigga with the most knowledge. Since I made this. How many you willing to 1:39:51 share tonight? I don't really talk since I made it. He gatekeep. Yo, do you not hear this nigga? You think Joe gatekeep with this? I don't really talk since what? Stop fucking playing my man. Oh boy. He's just 1:39:59 -> 100:07.920] rolling. I'm not doing it. I ain't here to joke. I'm on his side. He talking shit. Go repeat what you said. Why? Yo, come on. Stay on