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— [100:01.620 --> 100:09.740] that you wanna name on your Patreon? On mine, right? Just on mine, right? Nah, I'ma do a dual 1. Me and Mark.

— [100:09.760 --> 100:17.820] I'ma name it on his shit. Oh my God. That's crazy. So we don't know what the verdicts have been yet.

— [100:17.900 --> 100:26.140] Damn. How long has it? No, they've been found guilty. Oh, they've been found guilty. Don't go for sentencing in August. You said they're done deliberation. No,

— [100:26.140 --> 100:34.240] no, no. Sentencing is August 6th. But it's a known thing that a lot of people they were guilty of. We're catching them cases of moving over there to Israel. That's like a thing. Well, these guys. People

— [100:34.240 --> 100:42.260] have been pulled out of plane. I've been on flights to Israel, or people have been yanked off the plane because they're trying to run away from major charges. It's happened to

— [100:42.260 --> 100:50.300] me twice. I don't go to Israel anymore, but what I did, yeah. They've been jailed since 2024. Like this, like this. They're not from Austin. Go ahead, Freeze, read the whole shit. No,

— [100:50.300 --> 100:58.720] I'm just, well, we already said who they are, what they were doing. March 2026, a federal jury found all 3 brothers guilty of

— [100:58.720 --> 101:06.720] sex trafficking conspiracy sex trafficking by force for our coercion Transport transporting woman for illegal sexual activity and sexual

— [101:06.800 --> 101:15.240] exploitation of minors was in some of the counts Some of the victims were reportedly teenagers, including a 16-year-old. They

— [101:15.240 --> 101:23.300] allegedly lured women through parties, clubs, social media, and dating apps. Victims were invited to luxury trips, penthouses, Hamptons houses,

— [101:23.300 --> 101:31.720] or yacht parties. Many women say that they were drugged or intoxicated and then sexually assaulted and some of these assaults were recorded

— [101:31.720 --> 101:39.860] without consent. And now their sentencing is scheduled for August 2026. They face 15 years to life

— [101:39.860 --> 101:48.000] in federal prison and they plan to appeal. Bring back the guillotine. I do, I mean, for whatever reason, the

— [101:48.000 --> 101:56.380] guillotine. The who? Oh yeah, the Gallows. Take them out there to the Gallows, for sure. I don't even, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. But

— [101:56.380 --> 102:04.500] I do like that, and whatever the reason may be, that these motherfuckers are starting to come to light and be

— [102:04.500 --> 102:12.540] dragged to justice. Whatever that reason is, I don't know if it's some- I mean, are they? Yeah. More than before?

— [102:13.900 --> 102:21.940] Niggas had run. Look at this shit. They had a run from 08 to 21. Shit, your man, the Giants owner's gonna sell his steak. He

— [102:21.940 --> 102:30.000] doesn't have to, he's willingly selling his steak. Which is a profit, so he's not really losing. He doesn't have to, today. Yeah, today. Cause he showed up and they have to see his shit.

— [102:30.000 --> 102:38.000] Way ahead of it, Steve. But he's just passed it on to his kids, so it's not even like. Yeah, like. If he gets permission. If he gets permission. Because the league has to approve

— [102:38.000 --> 102:46.220] they got to approve it. Yeah, but what? Course it will have for them. I do the same we've been hearing again rumors of this for the last 20

— [102:46.220 --> 102:54.680] years, you know all these politicians they Watch watch watch in the next couple years all these big CEOs gonna start getting, we've

— [102:54.680 --> 103:03.420] been hearing that, or rumblings of that, for a very, very long time. The fact that it is starting to come to light now, is progress, I guess. Yeah,

— [103:03.420 --> 103:11.680] it's progress. You know what I'm saying? Like for lack of a better term, I don't want to say progress. It's not enough. But it's progress. It could be just the beginning. I think the money

— [103:11.680 --> 103:19.820] is so high that when you start exposing certain people, like it's some infrastructural shit. Even when I said just

— [103:19.820 --> 103:27.920] now, like, this is just the beginning. If this is just the beginning, and this right now, the beginning looks nasty. My nigga, could you imagine

— [103:27.920 --> 103:36.140] when they really get down to 60, 70% of what this shit really looks like fuck that though x-theme files in itself

— [103:36.140 --> 103:44.160] We talking about 1 nigga has 6000000 pages Right, they only gave away 3000000 pages and

— [103:44.160 --> 103:52.600] we're gonna add another 3000000 pages they said half of it or more than half of it was redacted. So if you had the 6000000 pages

— [103:52.780 --> 104:00.900] with total transparency, my nigga empires would start falling. And that's literally what he was just saying. That's what I just said. But

— [104:00.900 --> 104:16.900] I did the summary of what you just did. That's peace though. He He said it more dramatically Gotta

— [104:16.900 --> 104:24.920] be No, that's why I feel bad. I don't even know that it's just an asshole. That's fucked up. Actually, it's just not an asshole. That's fucked up. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad ass. Doing this damn thing for 20

— [104:24.920 --> 104:33.620] years. That's fucked up. Yeah, you are. Sometimes you're the dervish sometimes, bro. Look. Honestly.

— [104:34.280 --> 104:42.440] I ain't on a level with y'all. Who? Y'all. Y'all assholes. Oh, please. We're out of it. You're not far off. I'm about to

— [104:42.440 --> 104:50.500] say you did. I did it, dude. No, not with them. That's what I said. What are you saying, dude? Like we're a different tier of asshole. Everybody here is an asshole. Yeah, it's levels. I think Ish

— [104:50.500 --> 104:58.580] is not an asshole. B-Dot's not an asshole. Although he did a

— [104:58.580 --> 105:06.900] pretty asshole shot today Yeah, yeah, I was I was asshole That was an asshole shit to say and Elliott is gonna hear

— [105:06.900 --> 105:15.540] you're gonna hear from Elliot about this. Okay, buddy, finish your thought. Beat, I've been here for how long? 2

— [105:15.540 --> 105:24.410] weeks, 2 weeks. You've already put him in a part of a tear or something? Oh, I got his artwork coming already. And I've been here for 2 weeks. I wouldn't, I

— [105:24.880 --> 105:33.060] got such a good joke, not too much of ice, all right. See, I knew you was gonna do that. You talking to fucking mark. Why are you pointing

— [105:33.060 --> 105:41.300] at me and looking at me? Because I told you what has to happen. It has to start with you. I don't remember. We gotta

— [105:41.300 --> 105:49.320] get butt naked and fight each other. Oh, cut the head off the snake. That's what you keep saying, I'm the snake. No, you're not saying snake. What are we talking about? P.K. Right

— [105:49.320 --> 105:57.340] here. That's crazy. That's ill. He can't come to the gay party like that. Let's fight. Stop talking. You can't come to the gay party like that.

— [105:57.340 --> 106:05.340] We can start being gay. You know what I mean? The gay party. Hey, hey, hey. Can't get in? Hey, run to the store, nigga. KD did. KD did.

— [106:05.580 --> 106:13.640] Go hop on. That's me. That's me. Oh, shit. Y'all, I want to hear the other

— [106:13.640 --> 106:21.800] thing that you had, but I know you're scared to do it now. Which thing? What thing? He said you had another topic, but it's impressive. We had another topic. Will you tell us in the next episode? No, that was the Alexander Brothers.

— [106:22.020 --> 106:30.340] How much darker do we have to get? Yeah, I don't have nothing besides that. On the main, I wanted to rip a hole and pause the fucking Ravens as an organization,

— [106:30.940 --> 106:39.080] Even though it goes against everything I fucking believe in because I love them at least when Ozzy was here But now I think he's still there a little yeah, yeah, but this move doesn't sound

— [106:39.080 --> 106:47.080] Ozzy ish this move. Yeah What they do I didn't like the move They trade they traded for Max they traded man. They traded for Max Crosby who's

— [106:47.080 --> 106:55.100] on the Raiders they gave a first round and a second round I mean a first a first round this year and a first round next year Max Crosby

— [106:55.100 --> 107:03.260] was to first top 5 Edgerushers patch rushers in the game. He's also injured So according to Max Crosby's people the Ravens have been

— [107:03.260 --> 107:11.520] in touch with his agent. They know the speed of his recovery They know when he's expected to be back. They know everything So he flies to Baltimore.

— [107:11.580 --> 107:19.600] He does the physical the Ravens say you failed the physical they resend the trade he goes back to fucking Baltimore I mean back to the raiders after the Raiders have

— [107:19.600 --> 107:28.140] already made moves without having replaced them that's very expensive being tough so now that 30 million dollars is back on the Raiders books and

— [107:28.140 --> 107:36.140] I think that's crazy I think if you are doing that trade you got to undo everything that was made after it when the number 1 edge rusher is

— [107:36.140 --> 107:44.220] Available in a whole league is sitting there waiting. You got anybody on standstill. This is corny NFL can't step in Also, sorry Trey Hendrickson who's probably in top

— [107:45.900 --> 107:54.020] Yeah, and maybe even higher This they said they're in contracts talks at the same time negotiations with both situations So it sounds like

— [107:54.020 --> 108:02.060] what happened was they gave up a bunch of assets to a player that's very expensive and got a comparable albeit less accomplished

— [108:02.120 --> 108:10.260] player for a lot less. I said fuck that, well, I'm gonna take this 1. So now you're stuck with both at this point. And everything that comes to the-

— [108:10.260 --> 108:18.260] The Raiders are trying it. Please. You know, this is bullshit, dumbasses. Mark's trying to get part of the month. I'm afraid the voting is closed

— [108:18.260 --> 108:26.280] already. That's fine. I'm just here to do my job. Well, go ahead, say, wait a minute. Don't text it to the part of the month to read. Like, you read it. You could have just stole the

— [108:26.280 --> 108:34.700] shit. You just got the cord. You're just here for the odds. Hey, you hear me? Yo, that seat really don't have a cord on it. Like there's no cord to reach over there or nothing.

— [108:34.700 --> 108:42.940] That's the reason I sent it to you. I was just trying to make you use it. Oh, I thought you was always sending it to me because I was the greatest. And y'all said y'all don't text on the side, right? No. No. I sent him stories.

— [108:43.060 --> 108:51.160] I'm sending him stories so we can actually keep the pie going. That's peace. Yo, y'all. Oh, so we can actually keep this nigga. No, not like that. I'm saying like, if we move into the segue, I send him the next

— [108:51.160 --> 108:59.280] story so we can read yo Y'all speak mark. I'm so lost at y'all This and the Ravens Because

— [108:59.280 --> 109:07.340] I see y'all stand up for all He did say at first he shouldn't be like, oh. He

— [109:07.340 --> 109:15.440] loves the organization. I don't like the move. I think it's corny. I'm not disagreeing, but we sit up here and co-sign corny shit all the time, especially under the guise

— [109:15.440 --> 109:23.620] of business. Well, let me hear some of what it is and then I would co-sign. No, I think it's fuck shit. I think it's fuck shit. I co-signed corny shit before. I just don't co-sign this.

— [109:23.620 --> 109:31.680] No, I think it's fuck shit. But I think that when you make a trade, like the Cowboys was on his dick. The Cowboys didn't get him because they knew that he was injured and

— [109:31.680 --> 109:39.980] we didn't want to spend the money on that injured player, especially with that type of... They were really the number 1 people vying for him.

— [109:40.300 --> 109:48.400] So I think that from the ravers perspective, from a business perspective, If you didn't do your due diligence and or the

— [109:48.400 --> 109:56.400] rate the Raiders didn't put whatever clauses and they do You got to kind of eat that it is also possible that the physical popped

— [109:56.400 --> 110:04.780] up something that they weren't being clear about so I Mean, I guess I can give them that maybe yeah, I think that is fucked up Like I think it's some bullshit, but we

— [110:04.780 --> 110:12.860] sit up here and say, oh well, all the other times on the business front when niggas do fuck shit in business. I just think that's corny. I do, I think it

— [110:12.860 --> 110:20.880] sucks. And I have no problem saying oh well here. Yeah, like I think it sucks. But somebody is gonna step in and do something and you said they own the books for 30

— [110:20.880 --> 110:28.980] Million when homeboy. Yeah That's a lot of that's fucked up he makes me affected Yeah,

— [110:28.980 --> 110:37.260] yeah, I say at least 17 but not a week You know, it's true. The whole AFC is affected by these moves. Something feels illegal about

— [110:37.260 --> 110:45.460] it to some degree, but I don't know, what do you do in that situation? Have billion dollar organizations that got billion dollar organizational lawyers that's

— [110:45.460 --> 110:53.860] gonna fight every single loophole in the world? You know I can see you. You're not high. I was just checking this

— [110:53.860 --> 111:01.860] shit about the Ravens because I thought your numbers was a little off, but you was right. About what? About the Ravens, nigga. Prodigy. I don't want no beef with

— [111:01.860 --> 111:09.860] you. Prodigy shit. Child prodigy, child prodigy, middle-aged, peak-end dick prodigy, and big dick prodigy, boy. All right, we can't have 2 of y'all that don't

— [111:09.860 --> 111:18.300] know how to say adult. Adults. Who the hell is the person that don't know how to say it? Say what? You a moaner. Say what?

— [111:19.400 --> 111:28.620] Adults? He said it the best he could He didn't ever say adult How about I say it before? Adult I

— [111:28.620 --> 111:37.560] put an E I put an R-H-S-O-T Adults. Wait, what do you say? Adults. Adults. Adults.

— [111:37.560 --> 111:45.620] Adults. Sam was saying Adele or something? Yes. You put a T, Adele. You and Mona say adult. Hey, that's peace. Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait. I

— [111:45.620 --> 111:53.620] say adult wrong? Yes. How you say it then? Adult. Adult. It's a you. You saying it with an E. That T is carrying a

— [111:53.620 --> 112:01.860] load. I learned it up here. Adult. I was saying it wrong too for a little bit. You were saying adult too? Yeah, I was saying adult. Adult is how you say it. You've been saying adult for years. Adult. You

— [112:01.860 --> 112:10.200] think it's good to school? And next time 1 of your back talks, you gonna get a belt. I dropped out in the 10th grade. I think I'm doing pretty okay. You should not have said adult by 10th grade. You dropped out in the 10th

— [112:10.200 --> 112:18.400] grade? Did you go back and get your, you mean? So you just out here GED free. Fuck it, nigga. With that.

— [112:18.420 --> 112:26.880] Shit. Fuck that. Bitch was in the comments like, oh, Monika GED, actually I graduated in 4 years, or actually. Actually.

— [112:26.880 --> 112:34.900] And I did some college, bitch. Or actually, bitch. No, she said I got my own GED. We know you got your jail GED. We know it. No

— [112:34.900 --> 112:43.620] I didn't, I didn't go to jail until 21, nigga. Graduated at fucking 18, boy. Talk to her. You went to jail in 21? At

— [112:43.620 --> 112:51.700] 21. At 21. Oh. No. You thought that was at 21? Yo, you went to jail in the 20s? You see? God damn it. I'm overpaying.

— [112:51.700 --> 113:03.700] Yo, I had to go back to jail. I'll knock into prison in over a decade, please. Talk to him. Make some noise for that y'all. Talk to him. I wish you would shut the fuck up with that clapping. You happy for this shit? You home. We happy. What did

— [113:03.700 --> 113:11.720] the word straight mean in there? That's where I wasn't at. PC bitch! I wasn't on PC. Was you straight? What in jail? Yeah, I never had

— [113:11.720 --> 113:19.720] any pussy. 1 time I did sit real close to this Zyke with a Z. That's appropriate. And I think like the coochie jumped a little bit and I thought about it, but I ain't

— [113:19.720 --> 113:27.940] do now She was my bro for real, but the coochie jump we was thought of that coochie jump. I'm keeping it real. She's cute Fuck no, she wasn't cute. But a locker was crazy

— [113:27.980 --> 113:45.040] stacked. She was Sardines yes Sardines yes Cuz

— [113:45.040 --> 113:53.520] I'm curious I just never did it before. We can tell you're curious. I'm on the scale. I'm on my scale all tipsy turvy. Topsy turvy. Shit, topsy turvy. Come

— [113:53.720 --> 114:02.120] on. I'm on your team. You cannot hold it back. She ready to be tipsy early. Tipsy turvy. She ready. Tipsy get it done. She ready. Tipsy get it done.

— [114:02.440 --> 114:10.440] Oh man. Yeah, real shit though. I want y'all to know everybody's game. I wish Mark tell me about what's

— [114:10.440 --> 114:18.480] going on. Oh, no, we got some we got some action Yeah, so just before you played do y'all believe that the dead

— [114:18.480 --> 114:26.580] can come speak to people sometimes. Yes. Yes Take that Neil deGrasse Yes, they oh no reason to

— [114:26.580 --> 114:34.780] ask is because like the dead that people who have passed away can come back They can spiritually connect like visit us speak to us dreams come There

— [114:34.780 --> 114:42.780] has been a cat or a dog that keeps coming to my kitchen. I promise you. There keeps being a cat or a dog that comes to my kitchen

— [114:42.780 --> 114:50.920] and is sitting right next to me when I cook. A real cat? In the house? I have, like, you know how you get a feeling like you can see something? It's

— [114:50.920 --> 114:59.060] happened, it's happened. It's happened almost 10 times already. Y'all know I haven't been in my place that long. And it's like, I can feel

— [114:59.060 --> 115:07.160] it walking up. Sometimes it makes me jump. I look to the side, but I'm telling you, you know what I think? I think whatever that was before I got there. It's some kind of animal

— [115:07.160 --> 115:15.280] that's stuck in there now religious wise I don't believe in that but I'm telling y'all it's a cat or a dog that keeps sitting next to me while I cook in My kitchen. I'm dead serious. Are you feeling it? And I believe that

— [115:15.280 --> 115:23.300] to be true Dog! It's a cat or a fucking dog that keeps visiting me in this fucking kitchen. Religiously, you can't believe that in Slam? No, we

— [115:23.300 --> 115:31.320] don't believe shit like that in Slam, but what I'm saying to you is that I can feel the presence of it. You know what I mean? Sometimes I even catch it in the corner of my

— [115:31.320 --> 115:39.480] eye and I'm like jumping at this point I don't give a fuck I'm used to it But when I'm cooking or from in that kitchen towards the right side that nigga sits right by that refrigerator Whatever it is I'm assuming it's probably

— [115:39.480 --> 115:47.540] a dog cuz dogs will come sit with you if you Google my address This is a brand new building. He used to be a lot before that was probably a house Whoever lived there that fucking dog is still here.

— [115:47.540 --> 115:55.940] That's the thing. I put in my heat I told all my friends just funny that you asked. Well, the reason I asked is because Lamar Odom. Oh, fuck. Says that he's been getting

— [115:55.980 --> 116:04.080] visited. We should have supported him when I was asking him. Right. She may have had something to Lamar Odom. Yeah, well,

— [116:04.080 --> 116:12.300] Lamar said that he's being visited. That he was visited by Kobe Bryant and that Kobe left a special message for him. Hit it, Joe.

— [116:13.680 --> 116:41.200] Oh my God. Is it about the 83? I got to put my code in the phone. She was talking As

— [116:41.200 --> 116:49.400] loud as it goes Oh, shit. That's crap. That was my joke. You stole it, bitch. But man. See, I said you're not a asshole, so I thought you'd be a little. After life is not what people make it up to be. As loud as it goes. I'm gonna put the headphones on. And then I woke up Shortly after that. He talking to Mike like you can see.

— [116:49.400 --> 116:57.480] What he's trying to say. Could be he missed everybody. Could be.

— [117:00.540 --> 117:12.260] That can mean a multiple of things multiple to what? This

— [117:12.260 --> 117:20.320] nigga sound like he'd been to fucking the White House You've not the white horse or the White

— [117:20.320 --> 117:28.440] House the white Howard He's a

— [117:28.440 --> 117:36.880] Kobe told me after life is not what it's all cracked up to be. Was this when he was high or sober? As far as I know. I thought he was sober then.

— [117:36.900 --> 117:45.000] And that's a real question. He's saying this happened recently that Kobe re- Yeah, I don't listen to him. And when I- So just because he's been open

— [117:45.000 --> 117:53.140] about his drug issues it means that he has to be high if he- I think if it happened when he was getting high, it could be a hallucination. That's why I was leading to that. If it's something that happened when he was sober, I believe it's possible through dreams.

— [117:53.140 --> 118:01.160] I don't know. I mean, it could be. So y'all, dude, the answer to Mark's question is y'all

— [118:01.220 --> 118:09.380] don't believe that that's possible. I believe it. Wait, what was my last question? Do you believe it's possible that they come speak to you? Yes. Oh shit, bitches, I did it. Can't even try to talk

— [118:09.380 --> 118:17.420] to you all the time. Joel! Joel! Holy shit. Why they have an accent? I don't know! I

— [118:17.420 --> 118:25.440] forgot what accent it is. That accent. What was that accent? I don't know. Anytime other- I didn't know you the fuck were no Africans. They're Puerto Ricans. You should be able to get

— [118:25.440 --> 118:33.560] that accent. I'm sorry. That was your. Okay. Yo, what the fuck was that? Any other time that I've experienced thinking that

— [118:33.560 --> 118:41.680] somebody's trying to communicate me that past, I was grieving real bad. It was crazy grief. So I've always wiped, wrote it off as that. I'm grieving to the point I thought I saw

— [118:41.680 --> 118:49.900] this nigga. I thought I heard his voice or whatever. But this cat dog shit is different. That's why I told you. But it's happened regularly. It just happened since I moved here. You probably

— [118:49.900 --> 118:58.740] right. You probably right. You probably right. Whiskers is in here right now. What

— [118:58.740 --> 119:06.820] the fuck? Meow. I've seen my parents do dreams, but they've never had a message or

— [119:06.820 --> 119:15.100] something. So I just figured that- But that also makes sense. They're your parents. I just feel like if Kobe Bryant had a message to the world who should I tell it to who should I visit well are

— [119:15.100 --> 119:23.300] they say he was trying to convey something to the world or he was just talking to L.O.? That's true. Maybe he just wanted him to know the afterlife and what he was trying to do. If he was trying to tell something to

— [119:23.300 --> 119:31.320] Lamar Odom, he wouldn't go to Lamar Odom. Right. He'd tell somebody else that he was testing. He'd tell Lamar Odom. He would go to fucking what? Kardashian.

— [119:32.780 --> 119:40.900] Courtney House or some shit. Were they close, y'all? Were they known as close? Yeah, they're very close. He stuck by his side through a lot of shit. He loved them too, right? They loved each other. About him and the drugs. I don't know, I wouldn't just write it

— [119:40.900 --> 119:49.060] off. Me either, I ain't writing it off. Yeah, I wouldn't write it off. It would be easier to like, accept or ingest if it wasn't a message for the world if it was just like boys you but

— [119:49.060 --> 119:57.200] it's not it was cracked up a bee but put that pipe down you gonna mean you fuck random over here too fast I could understand that but just like a man that's an interesting way to think about

— [119:57.200 --> 120:05.560] it you don't jump don't die cuz you're not gonna like it Or Lamar might have been having suicidal thoughts at some point and he came to him and was like, nigga,

— [120:05.560 --> 120:13.680] no. Or Kobe had a TV when we was watching the Wizards in the Heat. Seeing that

— [120:13.680 --> 120:22.040] shit bam-dead. I was like, alright, I need to talk to somebody about this shit. Shaq wasn't available. Lamar was the only nigga home. Nah,

— [120:22.200 --> 120:30.300] nah, he did Jason to you I don't believe it's impossible. But this moment I'm I'm writing it off as Uses hallucinating or Yeah,

— [120:30.300 --> 120:43.540] you had a dream and cool He'll

— [120:43.540 --> 120:51.860] believe in nothing about warming gifts Oh, no, I heard about you heard about your man. I heard about him. Yes, I can buy mattresses heard about him TV's

— [120:51.900 --> 120:59.920] mattresses By that silverware boy MC Samsung in the forks over up over there What bitches

— [120:59.920 --> 121:10.300] don't ever have forks in it? Bitches silverware Judge

— [121:10.420 --> 121:18.420] huh you judge fuck yeah, you go to my house and they got fucked up silverware? Yes. You go to somebody's house and they got fucked up silverware? I ain't

— [121:18.420 --> 121:26.440] go hold your judge. Or like even glasses? And cups? Yes. Pointy as fuck! Yo mama,

— [121:26.880 --> 121:34.900] step your shit up. I'm on the gram the other day, they start showing me ads for the new ninja the

— [121:34.900 --> 121:44.240] new ninja 1700 knife set with the knife sharpener and it's a nigga on it sharpen the knife to my I

— [121:44.240 --> 121:52.460] was like hey I need this shit and guess what my folks got them half off I knew you was

— [121:52.460 --> 122:00.500] coming with it. Yeah, I knew you was coming. Mr. Don't want half off. I don't. You want 1? I'm going to get mine with the box. And the receipt.

— [122:02.300 --> 122:10.660] And the receipt. In the bag. There's 1 of them though. I ain't coming to box. Hey y'all, you are idiots. I ain't mad at you. I ain't mad at you. Hey,

— [122:10.660 --> 122:18.740] it is. You want 1 of these? Baby, they got them in gold, silver, years. This nigga is an idiot. No, I want mine with all of the

— [122:18.740 --> 122:26.940] pieces. His comedic timing. I'm telling you this is a real comic, man. Get him the knife set. Well, he gets 1. I know what he want. I didn't even have to ask him. I already

— [122:26.940 --> 122:34.952] told him, bring 2. That way if his painter's why they high on Heron, fuck the walls up, hit him with a little, knock his ass out

— [122:34.952 --> 122:43.540] of the thing. I can't believe you said that no he said that he said it yes

— [122:44.340 --> 122:52.600] you don't give a fuck he said his best painter he said his best painter

— [122:52.740 --> 123:01.100] heroin addict You would rather a heroin addict than a crackhead. Crack addict. Crack addict. And I said, we would have a conversation.

— [123:01.100 --> 123:09.220] Where they get their air on from? No, I said heroin is not out. People don't know. I never hear about dope fiends on the street. But he says he has 1 who works

— [123:09.220 --> 123:17.580] for him now He's just been 50 years They had a video of a nigga painting a street Saying that that was his

— [123:17.940 --> 123:26.360] painting Oh shit Is he honest about it? Oh he don't party So when you saw I've known a nigga for since

— [123:27.480 --> 123:35.520] about 20 years. When your drill going missing. You sold him at first. He don't steal nothing. He's a functional worker. I've lost money and that nigga be like, yo man,

— [123:35.520 --> 123:43.780] you lost blah blah blah blah amount of money and bring my money back. What's his race? He took your money. There are a lot of-

— [123:43.780 --> 123:52.960] Off the head, Ron. Yo dog, we attributing drug use to just bad people. That's fucked up. It's not the case at all. That's not the case, bro. I don't attribute

— [123:52.960 --> 124:01.120] drug use to bad people, but I do know the characteristics of an addict. And that's what, that was 1 of the points that I was making. You could be on heroin, and

— [124:01.120 --> 124:09.400] you don't have to get high as frequently as people on crack so you could buy some bags of skag and be good for the day Oh this shit getting crazy.

— [124:09.400 --> 124:18.020] Y'all what the fuck? You just said bags of skag. Yes. You still trapping niggas. Why you doing something like that? You got the trapping fiddle to look at them.

— [124:18.440 --> 124:26.480] What is wrong with you? Nah we not. Where's with crack? You gotta get high all the time. Bro, crack ain't even out for real no more.

— [124:26.480 --> 124:34.560] You ain't seen the crackheads in here, bro. Crackheads are in here. Crackhead used to be at the barbershop. They come and they clean your car while you out there everything I can't find a good

— [124:34.560 --> 124:42.820] crack You can't they don't exist Like this new shit that's how these things be dropping

— [124:42.820 --> 124:54.760] 35 Scag

— [124:54.760 --> 125:02.780] fuck me up I can't believe he's 65 and he's sitting on your lap. That's what's getting high for 30 years. That's the fact, really. This new shit is different. Some of my honestly own. I got the streets just dried out. Getting high since I was a kid. This nigga said a bag of skag fucked me up. You are you. You will never beat the modern stations, nigga. You're a fool, yo. What's up with you? No, I got a colleague at Columbia University Carl

— [125:02.780 --> 125:13.900] Hart who's who regularly uses heroin No, no, no, no book about using I

— [125:13.900 --> 125:22.000] just think for crack over heroin. He couldn't Yeah, I'm telling you when you want

— [125:22.100 --> 125:30.420] it kills your productivity bro what tell you right see I find the hair

— [125:30.600 --> 125:38.620] up are you all think about it All right, yo, y'all think I'm playing. I'm telling y'all we should not have a conversation about these purposes of this employees of

— [125:38.620 --> 125:46.720] which drug they're fucking ruining their general life. I won't hire no crackhead. I won't hire a crackhead. I'll hire a nigga. But that's Carl's 0.1 crackhead's where I draw the line. Carl's point was, it

— [125:46.720 --> 125:54.820] doesn't ruin your life. There's a healthy and functional way to do drugs. There's a book called Drug Use for Grownups. And he talks about that. He says, I get my heroin directly from,

— [125:54.820 --> 126:03.160] at the time, Afghanistan, when we talked about it. He brings it, it's fresh. So he said a few times a year. I mean, a few times a week, excuse me. How to be a crackhead.

— [126:04.300 --> 126:12.620] You know, the how to be a crackhead segment of the show is not crack. Whatever it is. How to be a fiend. How to be a dope fiendie meanie. Get

— [126:12.740 --> 126:21.020] it right. How to be a fiend. Well, I mean, he got a better job than me. You know what I mean? Like he's found a way to make it manageable. He said a lot of times we think of drug addicts as only being these

— [126:21.020 --> 126:29.060] down and out people at the bottom of society, and we don't understand how many people are able to function. I'm sorry, I'm gonna do it. I ain't gonna lie. You are a drug addict. That was like a

— [126:29.060 --> 126:37.220] amazing trip. That was the worst time of my life. Right on time. But we ignore the fact that people can't be functional, which is the part I agree with. Bro, and I'm not trying to simplify

— [126:37.420 --> 126:45.500] it, and I don't want this to come off insensitive. What's the difference of people taking prescription drugs to maintain their lifestyle? Or to maintain

— [126:45.540 --> 126:53.700] living through society? What's the difference between a motherfucker that crack a beer every day to get off of work. Nothing. People are addicted to alcohol. In fact, alcohol is the only drug that you will die from with

— [126:53.700 --> 127:01.700] alcohol in. That's the only drug they will kill you trying to let it go without a medical staff or something like that. But I just, you know, when you get

— [127:01.700 --> 127:10.140] into the characteristics of addiction, it's just those characteristics are what they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm just saying, but we will demonize that.

— [127:10.180 --> 127:18.260] Like, yo, my man worked at Columbia University. Say no to drugs, man. Yes, see. I definitely think that people are judging about it. Drugs that we don't fuck

— [127:18.260 --> 127:26.620] with, that's the problem. Right. Because we all fuck with drugs. I mean, I don't take drugs, but we all fuck with drugs at a certain level. We don't care. Right, because alcohol is a drug, marijuana is a drug, whatever. These hoes.

— [127:26.820 --> 127:35.260] I feel like that's, I feel like that part I could get with. But, baby, try to go on.

— [127:36.600 --> 127:44.620] I tried to kick that bitch. The most judgmental people always do the acceptable shit. You get what I mean? Yeah, true. Societally acceptable

— [127:44.620 --> 127:53.060] shit. Yeah, society acceptable shit the most people do. But I don't know, and then especially like with generational error, you can't remember. I remember my father went in this whole rant about,

— [127:53.380 --> 128:01.640] oh, 0, your aunt's smoke, oh, your aunt's snort, but they come from an era where like that was, that was what people did. Sniffing coke was cool. Yeah. That was the fly shit. No, that was the fly

— [128:01.640 --> 128:09.720] shit. Sniffing Coke was fly. My dad, exactly, I mean, word for word, he said that they came out with $10 bags of powder on 10th and Cumberland,

— [128:09.880 --> 128:18.260] and Richard Pryor also went back in the day viral for setting himself on fire. And he was open about it. He was on tour, he did shows, he went out with Mace.

— [128:18.260 --> 128:26.400] Right, free basing in the bed. But that shit made people, the antennas go up and then in North Philly people were selling like a large amount of powder for $10. So

— [128:26.400 --> 128:34.820] it was like, fuck it, let's just try. And that shit spread like wildflower. I mean wildfire. And flower. So my man is addicted to lean and

— [128:35.080 --> 128:43.100] straight up, yo, this is a rich man's habit right here. Like it's looked at a certain way because it's a status thing to them. It's a justification

— [128:43.100 --> 128:51.100] for being a fiend. That's what I'm saying. If you're a lean head, you're a dope head. It's the same shit. It's the same thing.

— [128:51.100 --> 128:59.340] Same shit. If you a coke head, you a crack head. That's the, that's, that's the- It's not, no. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but- Yes, it is, it is, bro. I'm saying in terms of the stigma, like, because I mean, it's the same drug, is what I'm saying.

— [128:59.340 --> 129:07.440] No, no, no. No. Matter of fact, I'm gonna take that back. They've taken it around because what happens is all them Wall Street niggas is cokeheads. Some of them are crackheads too.

— [129:07.440 --> 129:15.440] But they're crackheads too, baby. I'm sorry, that's what I'm trying to say. If you smoke crackhead, you're a cokehead. Yes, yes. What I'm saying is, what I'm trying to say is if you're a cokehead, you know better than

— [129:15.440 --> 129:23.680] a crackhead. We just give it different labels. Exactly. And we created laws and all this shit in a lot of coke kids have

— [129:23.680 --> 129:31.940] gotten fucked up and smoked a crack what it do to you makes it different it might be the same composition once you start fucking with it and make it crack And

— [129:31.940 --> 129:40.260] what it do to you do something different. Exactly. It's the same thing. Ice is right, bro. Wait, the same basis, but once you start adding that other shit

— [129:40.260 --> 129:48.400] and what you do to it. That nigga was in the house studying, boy. If lean and heroin. If lean and heroin. Too much dare. That nigga's there. Or, this nigga breaking bad over

— [129:48.400 --> 129:56.500] here. He was in the house. Arsenal got his name from you. If leaning heroin is the same thing, cracking coke is the same thing. If you don't put it like that, y'all are just the same

— [129:56.500 --> 130:04.560] shit. This is exactly how we ended up with differential send us in Rockefeller drug laws, because they convinced us. That's all I'm saying. I get what you're saying. I'm talking

— [130:04.560 --> 130:12.600] about the effects of the drug on the people is different. Why? Because coke is they have a couple of dollars and they work on Wall Street? No, because coke

— [130:12.600 --> 130:20.800] you don't have to get high as frequent. It's a different. Yes you do. People snort all day. Scientists have refuted all this. You guys snort cracker a little more.

— [130:20.980 --> 130:29.160] But coke is an all day break. I mean listen. I ain't going to say nothing. You got it. I mean you know I guess we just going to disagree from what I know is the same thing Can I ask a question? Yes,

— [130:29.160 --> 130:38.620] anybody ever did some crack heron a coke? No You

— [130:38.620 --> 130:46.740] you got it we can all take the assumptions of what people tell us, but until you go ahead and take that, that it'll. I went to school for drugs. You don't know. For like addiction

— [130:46.740 --> 130:54.940] specialties, addiction something or whatever, I went to CCB. And just flunked out. Actually I did alright, I just quit. And I'm gonna be honest with you, I've had

— [130:54.940 --> 131:03.080] family members I can't tell how much them drug counselors make. Every drug that we've named, I've had family members or friends who have done them. And I get it, 1

— [131:03.080 --> 131:11.220] high might be more than enough but they all lives ended up being the same way which was all fucked up so to me it don't really matter how bad people that had

— [131:11.220 --> 131:19.360] very functional lives there's lawyers and do all that shit My godfather was a crackhead and he was in jail for fucking driving a car while

— [131:19.360 --> 131:27.600] on crack and getting $200, 000 year job offers because he was a very talented fucking statistician or the fuck you was Wow like Yeah,

— [131:27.600 --> 131:36.440] you could be high functional. He ended up in jail. Yeah, you know he got out He got the $200, 000 years out of $200, 000 a year In

— [131:36.440 --> 131:44.840] the 90s. It's enough money to be functional. To sustain that habit. To sustain that habit. Not really, because he also did a lot of terrible

— [131:44.840 --> 131:52.900] shit. No, no, No, no, no, no, I'm just talking about and that makes it yeah Cuz the average motherfucker don't make 2 on a K so him having to get high every day like I

— [131:52.900 --> 132:00.900] know niggas that would Yeah My cousin Thousand years

— [132:00.900 --> 132:08.920] he retired from it, You know, he was always hearing big-ass hands. He went to work He got it got well in the morning. That's how they call it went to work all day came

— [132:08.920 --> 132:16.960] home got high and night I went right back to work. He retired I said that the other day In New York coke is bad prevalent and I've hung around a lot of people

— [132:16.960 --> 132:25.240] are doing coke and I gotta tell you they don't just do 1 little bump and chill for the rest of the night. They be fuckin' tearing down graves. That's what I'm saying.

— [132:25.240 --> 132:33.380] Yeah man. Good talk. Yeah yeah yeah. Good job. Little media update if y'all care. 3 shows have been cancelled from

— [132:33.380 --> 132:41.780] syndication. Really? Yeah. Access Hollywood after 30 years. No. Okay. The Steve Wilco show.

— [132:42.620 --> 132:50.660] Okay. After 19 years. I don't know how he made it that long. Why the fuck did he stay that long? It's Steve Wilcox. Trash to me. You know, Steve,

— [132:50.660 --> 132:58.900] Jerry's friend. The bodyguard. Jerry's, yes, Jerry's bodyguard. Yeah, he can go. Yo, but first of all, I did- What's the other 1? I'm about to pull out, just blank

— [132:58.900 --> 133:06.960] right that fast. While you're looking for that, Paramount just bought out Tyler Perry's ownership stake in BET and they're shutting down BET

— [133:06.960 --> 133:15.000] Plus. Yes. Oh, really? Wow. I don't know if that was the 1 that you were looking for. No, no, Karamo was the third show I was trying to think of. I like Karamo. I like

— [133:15.000 --> 133:23.020] Karamo. But it's connected to the same thing, which is the mini landscape is just changing. I hope Karama goes on YouTube. That's crazy. I hope Karama goes

— [133:23.020 --> 133:31.100] on YouTube. Karama's going to be fine. Karama got a good job. He'll be fine. I like Karama. Those 3 NBC shows, those are all from NBC's syndicated thing. NBC's shutting down

— [133:31.100 --> 133:39.120] their syndicated wing. So syndicated television, as we know it, it's shrinking. I mean, it's going to be gone soon. Because if a show that lasted 19 years is

— [133:39.120 --> 133:47.200] going, and if Access Hollywood which lasted 30 years is going, it ain't much left. But Those 2 shows, I

— [133:47.200 --> 133:55.440] think those 2 shows, I could see why they're going. Like, because Access Hollywood, people are looking to internet mediums

— [133:55.440 --> 134:03.840] for that. TMZ, like TMZ and Shade Room and them are the new access Hollywood. And it comes out every fucking second.

— [134:03.900 --> 134:12.040] I can see why the Steve Wilco and Karamo shit is going. Yeah, now we can go look at nigga shit on our phones. The daytime talk show. It's not as lucrative.

— [134:12.040 --> 134:20.080] It's not as lucrative as it was when Jerry Springer and Maury and all that shit. I'm not gonna lie. I don't get the Karamo being going. I get it, but I don't get it, only because he had a lot

— [134:20.080 --> 134:28.620] of new topics fresh up that they didn't. It wasn't against the show though. It was basically NBC syndicated, said we're closing this branch, so we're just cutting everything. What's

— [134:28.620 --> 134:36.660] Karamo? Karamo is a fairly new. He was part of the- You don't remember Karamo? Did you watch the real world? He was like the- was he the- no, no, Pedro was the first gay guy. He's the first black gay guy. He's like the first- yep,

— [134:36.660 --> 134:44.720] on the real world. But he's not really known for real world as much as he's known for the Queer Eye for the straight guy shit. Right. So he was 1 of the guys that was there helping

— [134:45.200 --> 134:53.700] with styling people, whatever. He had a regular daytime show, but his topics were a little different, a little more nuanced or whatever. He

— [134:53.700 --> 135:01.760] was good. And his clips were going down viral, but the show gotta be 3, 4 years old. It's brand new kind of. But It was styled almost in the same vein

— [135:01.760 --> 135:09.760] of a, not like a Mori, but it was way more mature. More high brow, yeah. It was made way more high brow than Mori, but yeah.

— [135:09.760 --> 135:18.100] Joe, we're talking about- And I just want to add to what you said about BET Plus and Paramount. They are shutting down BET Plus, but they're just merging all the content into

— [135:18.160 --> 135:26.400] Paramount. So everything that exists, it's not like it's dead. The Tyler Perry will be out. They're going to have a BET Hub on Paramount now. Oh,

— [135:26.400 --> 135:34.780] but the Tyler Perry shows and all that? They'll still be there. They'll still be there. NBC syndicated basically just shutting down its wing, so there's not gonna be any more

— [135:34.900 --> 135:42.960] syndicated stuff coming out of them. But the Steve Wilco show, y'all remember Steve, Jerry Springer's bodyguard? He had a show, that show was on for 19 years, canceled, Karamo canceled,

— [135:42.960 --> 135:50.960] Access Hollywood, which has been on for 30 years, canceled. Karamo needed to go. Really? We was saying Steve could go too. I love Carl, Steve sucked the whole time. I gotta say,

— [135:51.100 --> 135:59.380] Steve is a model to me. Yeah, he don't suck at nothing. 19 years. I don't see him sucking. I mean, you was the bodyguard on the show. You made it turn into a 19-year syndicated career.

— [135:59.380 --> 136:07.480] That's like being a plus 1 like a month. I mean that's like. I get it. And you know what he's been doing the last couple of years? He'll go on TikTok live. Dressing his ass off. He just go live and talk to people.

— [136:07.480 --> 136:15.640] Steve goes live and talk to people like every, like at least 2, 3 times a day. Steve Harvey? No, Steve Wilcox. No, it's the white man from Jerry Springer, the bald head white man. Hey,

— [136:15.640 --> 136:23.800] yo, I'm going to clunk you with this song. That's what I'm like, when you suckle like. You're like, your heels suckin' when you say it's Dress is Ass up, I was like, oh. Like, yeah, Steve Wilcox was doing that shit. I was like,

— [136:23.800 --> 136:32.061] I ain't. Yo, dawgs. He about to. Yo, punch yourself, nigga. Hot, hot, fire. Punch yourself, nigga. That's what I'm like, Wilcox.

— [136:32.200 --> 136:40.420] Yeah, Yeah, yeah. His show ran for 19 years. That's the media was amazing. And he does not throw that shit on. Hey, I was like, yo, you fucked me up. I was like what? I thought you didn't know about Steve Harvey.

— [136:40.420 --> 136:48.640] I was like, I don't know. Yo, nah, I was like, I don't know. Shout out to Steve Harvey, we love him. But yeah, so T, I just, the media landscape is so different now than it was growing up. But again, it makes sense to me, like, if

— [136:48.640 --> 136:56.840] you could pick up your phone and get this information every single day in real time, what is the need for Access Hollywood? By

— [136:56.840 --> 137:04.900] the time that come on, y'all late. It is the population gets older, more of us are more accustomed to doing this than turning on the TV at 02:00 in the afternoon. Which is their main

— [137:04.900 --> 137:13.620] demographic. Yeah, you said they syndicated shows. So from a network perspective, why the fuck am I giving y'all this money? I'm not gonna keep y'all in syndication. Yeah,

— [137:13.620 --> 137:21.940] I mean talk shows period are just starting to die. Yeah, because syndication is dying. Not All of them because a lot of podcast TV

— [137:21.940 --> 137:30.520] syndication podcast have taken a place I'm gonna come over here. Oh these talk shows Please fuck These

— [137:30.520 --> 137:38.900] 7 people talk shows network talk shows Yeah, but

— [137:38.940 --> 137:52.960] you know what I mean Yeah,

— [137:53.300 --> 138:01.440] It's in the name, every once in a while. It's on the spectrum. It's on the spectrum. Okay, stupid question for the married men in the room

— [138:01.440 --> 138:09.800] and ice I'm not talking to ish I'm not talking to Imani and

— [138:09.800 --> 138:17.860] Mona you could chime in if you want to when you do your and I'm not talking

— [138:17.860 --> 138:26.200] about me when y'all do your when y'all did y'all feelers to see what type of ring your partner

— [138:26.200 --> 138:34.740] like yeah like before you propose did y'all do something like that yes yeah I got lucky whatever answers y'all got back Yeah.

— [138:35.280 --> 138:43.420] Is that the ring you got? Yes. Yes. Is that your plan too? Yes. You do not want to guess on the ring. Yo, why you excluding me? Hell,

— [138:43.520 --> 138:51.660] it's a big homie what she want, nigga. Yeah, nigga. I want to fight that. No it ain't about you. It's not about you bro. Why would you

— [138:51.660 --> 138:59.840] fight that? Let the shit not be about you for once. It's not about her. It's just a shape. Why do you give a fuck what the shape of the ring is? Cause you got to look at it. Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. So? Nigga.

— [138:59.920 --> 139:07.960] Cause you have to look at it and your partner is a representation of you at all times. Oh my god. Am I off in it? But it's just the shape. You are off in this. You

— [139:07.960 --> 139:16.040] are. You are. What you want like a heart or something? So you think you're supposed to have more say because you gotta see it than

— [139:16.040 --> 139:28.060] the person that has to wear it? What shape do you want? Surprise me. Okay.

— [139:29.710 --> 139:38.140] It is. It is. What would you prefer? Yeah, what do you want? What do you want? Something

— [139:38.140 --> 139:46.180] that will keep her safe. Huh? What? That has to do with the size. Just the size, yeah. Okay, when I

— [139:46.180 --> 139:54.720] saw that fucking emerald cut because I put it right in Google everything I saw Looked like the same shit to stick a boy saw So

— [139:54.720 --> 140:04.980] now if you bring you have to keep on your finger at all times and never take it all like I don't want to Hear nothing about it off What

— [140:04.980 --> 140:13.260] What cut would you prefer? Not that shit you know. I'm asking. I don't know yet. They're all gonna be. They don't know yet. They're all gonna be stupid. What

— [140:13.260 --> 140:22.100] size would you. Let me ask you. What size would you prefer? That's really what it is. I think the bigger rings could potentially look better and not emerald cool

— [140:22.100 --> 140:32.600] I'm asking just don't throw a number out I don't think that you know if you had to be a

— [140:32.600 --> 140:40.980] ring is gonna be a little ass bad with a big fucking rock on it. No matter what, no matter what, that's why I'm just a big fucking rock. Emerald

— [140:41.040 --> 140:49.080] shit look like some Queen Elizabeth, ancient, old school, big. Like do, but no, not like,

— [140:49.080 --> 140:57.120] I don't think so. And that's why I was asking you what is your preferred He don't know I'm gonna go and then I was gonna say sighs because if you get a

— [140:57.120 --> 141:05.280] rock I guess bro if you get a rock in a certain size, I don't give a fuck None of them you're not a big beautiful oval oval

— [141:05.280 --> 141:13.760] rings look like that You're bugging Yeah, they all look good. The 1 not getting the diamonds doesn't. A big rock looks like a big rock no matter what. Also

— [141:14.340 --> 141:22.520] also with an engagement ring she don't have to especially once y'all get married she don't have to wear that shit fucking Give me a carrot And that old old

— [141:22.520 --> 141:30.660] three-square carrot is gonna look nuts Hey Freeze She come with an alarm You gonna take it off? Why that

— [141:30.660 --> 141:39.060] ring off? Take it off and do what? Oh yeah, because you know we put an iPad on that ring. You know what girls do? Girls also sometimes get the fake ones so when they go somewhere...

— [141:39.220 --> 141:47.700] You get a fake 1 too. Yeah, you get a fake 1. My wife does that. You definitely get a replica. By 2. When she travels, especially when she travels abroad. No, by 2 fake ones. No, no. Oh.

— [141:48.000 --> 141:56.080] By a real 1 and a fake 1 that aren't close so that if she outside going to the gym doing whatever she could wear the food right pistol whipper Then they didn't get the good

— [141:56.080 --> 142:12.600] 1 if I think you gotta see Z. Yeah on you, buddy Hey, what's her the insurance company? You

— [142:12.600 --> 142:20.820] ain't that be down all day Hey, but to the insurance company, he did get the real 1. I have no comment. Oh, wham! You know what I mean? There's a wham in the insurance fraud. Yo, these 2, you ain't daft b. All day. Yes, I did actually. You dafting again? I did daft b. Right when he left, Joe. He dafting again. Some nerve. It's not gonna

— [142:20.820 --> 142:29.000] work. When you say that, what do you think I'm trying to get to work? You and your injection of chaos

— [142:29.100 --> 142:37.160] and bullshit. Yeah, It's not gonna work. A big stupid diamond is gonna look big and stupid no

— [142:37.160 --> 142:45.260] matter what the fuck it is. It ain't like you getting no, you will get some flawless shit. You're not buying something small enough to avoid the kind of shit you're worried about.

— [142:45.560 --> 142:53.760] No matter what that rock you get, it's going to be big enough that it's going to be a safety threat if that's what you're worried about. Colorless, flawless, it's going to be. You don't have to wear a ring everywhere. You

— [142:53.760 --> 143:01.860] can just wear the band. It's going to be a fly band. And like my wife, when she travels, she doesn't necessarily bring her ring, especially if she's overseas. Same. She wants to wear something so the people

— [143:01.860 --> 143:10.020] know she's married because that doesn't help. But she doesn't want to lose the actual ring. You can also have conversations about getting a more appropriately sized rock

— [143:10.020 --> 143:18.160] and making up in different ways. Nah, that ain't gonna work. If you're thinking about getting something that's like really like... Gaudy. Like

— [143:18.160 --> 143:26.200] you, not gaudy, but you. And yo, I'm looking... I just said that. The color and the clarity matter yeah I'm a civil what y'all saying bro

— [143:26.200 --> 143:36.140] I'm looking at these ovals an oval in a nice size Somebody chop your fucking finger off Look

— [143:36.140 --> 143:44.460] at the big oval joints versus the big Look

— [143:44.460 --> 143:53.020] like we about to live in the fucking Super Mario Brothers castle that he got to at the end of the board. They all look like that with their shows. Yeah, I disagree with that. No,

— [143:53.020 --> 144:01.160] they both do look crazy. I'm not disagreeing with you. They are comparable. What did you ask me Earlier that could lead to

— [144:01.160 --> 144:09.280] some fun. Would you say to me why why is that me and freeze and not you? Yeah Oh, I believe and I know Monty

— [144:09.280 --> 144:17.420] thinks all of us are playing out. I don't care what you say on rewind boy I don't give a fuck I mean if I had

— [144:17.420 --> 144:25.800] to guess I just think me and freeze may be closer than you Is she's married well telling you all this then there's that but if you aren't

— [144:26.120 --> 144:34.280] then what makes I think that he's he's The child closer to him. I believe he's married. Okay, but I'm not even joke that I'm going but based off

— [144:34.280 --> 144:42.420] of what Joe said Well, we don't have any information actually. I don't subscribe to make like real thought over brother brother It's private. So if I look at

— [144:42.420 --> 144:50.660] him, right he's been living with her longer Than both of y'all they actually have a kid together They've invested into things together. They both

— [144:50.660 --> 144:59.280] own the house together. That to me is way further along than you guys would be. Ooh, shut you up, Joe. He did. Pow.

— [144:59.620 --> 145:07.840] Guess by proxy, shut us up. No, no, I keep telling you, I'm not with you. Leave me out here. No, nigga, y'all together. No, we not. Stop doing that, y'all together. No, we not together.

— [145:08.300 --> 145:16.520] No, we not. Y'all don't know what I'm doing. So because he lived with his girl, they build in a house and they have a baby, I think you make fear points. Yeah.

— [145:17.320 --> 145:25.600] I think those are fear points. I don't have anything to say to those. But you asked me why I'm saying that. Well, I have nothing to do but guess. I

— [145:25.600 --> 145:33.640] just feel like it's just chilling. That's bad. I think he's made his opinions on

— [145:33.640 --> 145:41.680] marriage pretty clear. I just think when we mentioned the commitment part of it and you guys are all committed as far as being in a relationship where

— [145:41.680 --> 145:50.080] you guys wanted to go to. But if we talk about like, like when Ice talks about the steps towards it, I think he's done some of the steps that you would need to showcase

— [145:50.320 --> 145:58.900] before actually walking down an aisle than you guys have. Which would be the owning of things together. Well yeah, you just said that. So that's

— [145:58.900 --> 146:07.440] it? I heard you say that. Why are you listening to him? I'm not. Oh, okay. I don't talk to him, honey, about this stuff. You shouldn't. But I gotta listen to him, you know what I mean?

— [146:07.600 --> 146:15.740] Okay. It's like the nigga that don't drink telling me what tequila better. Nigga, shut up. Not shut up. He got smoke with us, So

— [146:15.900 --> 146:26.420] I try to leave him alone. I don't smoke which I don't get it shit off and rewind Y'all got smoke with me. Why you think it's not with us not smoke with y'all Everybody

— [146:26.420 --> 146:34.620] scared you a little bit. No, I said if there was to be smoke with anybody it would be more you want Yeah, or for that clip, but it wouldn't be like a real smoke.

— [146:34.620 --> 146:42.720] What was the clip? What clip? He's talking about when we had the conversation about me saying that we're all on the same

— [146:42.720 --> 146:50.800] path towards marriage, and then you had chimed in and said, yo, E, I'm actually ahead of you in that race. So

— [146:50.800 --> 146:59.180] I'm saying like- That's why you shooting. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't be paying attention to that. We don't, I mean. I mean, you brought it up, so you pay attention. I didn't bring it up. No, he did.

— [146:59.340 --> 147:07.380] Oh, so I keep falling for this. Hey, Freeze. Hey, Freeze. We don't pay attention to this. Stop, man. We don't. Yo, why hurt

— [147:07.380 --> 147:15.480] your heart to be down with me so much? Because I'm not down with you. That's why. See? All right, we ain't going to get

— [147:15.480 --> 147:23.680] the discount then on the rings nigga. I don't need the discount. You're gonna try to come get it after too. No I'm not. You're gonna try to get it after you get it too. I ain't sorry to put a deposit on his rings.

— [147:24.520 --> 147:32.640] Think so? Deposit. Yeah that's why you prize picking everyday. Hey, shots of prospects. Big money, big prospects. I wish

— [147:32.640 --> 147:41.400] I had prize picks. That's why you sold the big death prize picking to get your prize pick Oh, you ain't sell a big death row chain. I know you What

— [147:41.400 --> 147:54.000] not A1I want you my bad. I'm sorry death row. Oh, no, that's right. The 1 is 1 of the night. Yeah This is different Can

— [147:54.000 --> 148:02.060] I open them then yeah, if you hold him did you, go get you a Thin Man, girl? Oh, yes. I bought this,

— [148:02.060 --> 148:10.160] I bought Girl Scout cookies up here. Yo, eat, eat, eat. I seen them. No issue with them damn cookies. Alright, stupid question. And

— [148:10.160 --> 148:18.580] this is my last 1 on this and then I'm changing the topic. But Nah, I ain't even gonna ask that. I ain't letting my nigga do that.

— [148:18.580 --> 148:26.820] Come on, ask him. Tell him to put the... You can't do that to the viewers. It's not an ask, because I'm not gonna let him do it. I'm not letting him do that. You can't do that to the viewership. I was gonna say, I

— [148:26.820 --> 148:34.820] was gonna ask Ice if he planned on proposing and it's Apple Watch, but I'm not letting him do that, anyway. Hey bro, please stop worrying about what I what I'm doing.

— [148:34.980 --> 148:43.300] I got this I don't worry about I'm not letting you do that. All right now can I ask? And it's not about Whether you've done so let's

— [148:43.300 --> 148:51.400] just say you are planning on doing that some time soon Mm-hmm. Will you tell us before you do or will you tell us after it's done? No, you won't know before. We wouldn't know

— [148:51.400 --> 148:59.440] before. Okay. We'll find out on IG. We'll find out. And I think that's that's respectable. That's our moment. I agree. I'm with you. I just want that. I think

— [149:00.060 --> 149:08.240] that's the right way to go. How you feel about that? That's our moment, nigga. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm with you, dog.

— [149:08.560 --> 149:16.640] I'm just saying, I was there for all the failed steps that led to this greatness. I feel like I should be able to celebrate When you celebrate finding the

— [149:16.640 --> 149:24.640] love of your life, nigga, I want to be there. You gonna tell us when you're about to do it? Hey, Joe, Joe, Joe. Yeah, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Can I go first? Can I go first? All

— [149:24.640 --> 149:32.720] right, go ahead. You did it twice. I wasn't there for neither 1 of those. It was for TV. It was for TV. Nah, we knew about the 1 time. And you was at the second 1. No, I was not that was the pod show.

— [149:32.720 --> 149:40.940] I wasn't there We did for the first 1. I wasn't oh yeah, and if all of those was for TV, I know this next time The

— [149:40.940 --> 149:51.680] real life is the real deal got you and we and if it ain't Fucking

— [149:51.680 --> 149:59.740] window it's over this 1 So in other news things that I learned this week that I feel like I should have learned as a teenager but I didn't. And things that I should be

— [149:59.740 --> 150:08.180] too embarrassed to share but I'm not so I'll give it to y'all. Now I've been home making sausage, egg, and cheese sandwiches. Okay.

— [150:09.880 --> 150:18.000] Flat sausages or? On a roll or on a bread? It's about to be some crazy shit. Watch. Bread. Shit about English muck. But I'm

— [150:18.000 --> 150:26.200] a bread guy. English muck. But I'm a potato bread guy. Saying, oh Martin, so the soggy shit, all right. Soggy, whoa. Potato bread ain't soggy. It can be.

— [150:26.200 --> 150:34.500] It can be, go ahead. Oh, okay. I don't know what they talking about. Go ahead. So I've recently bumped into a bread that I'm pretty confident

— [150:34.500 --> 150:42.540] to say I like a lot better than potato bread and I didn't know it existed. Which 1? It's about to be some... Not the Panera shit. No, no, let him talk please. Let him

— [150:42.540 --> 150:50.540] talk. Let him talk. Don't nobody guess. I think it's called Hawaiian bread. All right, be chill. Yo, it's for real, yo. No, no, no, no,

— [150:50.540 --> 150:59.075] no, no, no, no. Wait, what? It's called a Hawaiian

— [150:59.848 --> 151:07.960] bread Yo, that shit is yummy. Yo,

— [151:07.960 --> 151:16.280] y'all leave it. I ain't even supposed to be eating bread. I barely get hungry. But boy, Let me tell you something.

— [151:16.540 --> 151:24.900] No, I've had Hawaiian rolls. But you talking about the bread. I didn't know they were selling this shit as a loaf of bread.

— [151:24.900 --> 151:33.140] Yes, they have the loaf. Nigga, why didn't somebody tell me that? They have the hamburger version of it. They got everything. No, but bread?

— [151:33.200 --> 151:41.360] Bread, yes, Joe. Yo, Joe, you can come back home, yo. You can come back home. You ain't got to be bougie

— [151:41.360 --> 151:49.640] about everything. There's certain shit that you can still like enjoy I'm not trying to be bougie. I just didn't know I just didn't know man

— [151:52.400 --> 152:01.220] Fuck y'all you cleared to sit on that 1, bro. That's crazy. Whatever. I hear you moaning. I

— [152:01.220 --> 152:11.600] hope that wasn't a whisperer. Say something else, I'ma light your friend brand up. Oh shit! You

— [152:11.600 --> 152:19.940] say another word, your friend gonna get it. That's not just my friend, that is a huge brand. Glamaholus is

— [152:19.940 --> 152:28.100] no small just my friend brand. We became friends on social media because her brand is fucking huge. You say Glamaholics? Glamaholics, her name is Mia. She's

— [152:28.100 --> 152:36.400] from Detroit. She's a fucking beast. Yo, love your work. She's fucking up. Yo, ma, I love the shit you do. Wanna link, wanna do my pot

— [152:36.400 --> 152:44.660] and talk about it? There you want to come to a yo II and talk about your brand of your business when I say in town,

— [152:45.080 --> 152:53.860] okay? Oh man The bags are nice. I see some nice bags on. Okay. We

— [152:53.860 --> 153:01.980] got any spring, summertime predictions? New York is going to be extra. Yeah. What do we

— [153:01.980 --> 153:10.080] predict to happen? This is the worst New York winter I've had in the 20 years I live to people are gonna be outside You said the worst worst

— [153:10.200 --> 153:18.260] summer gonna be a little a little a little Between the snow and the cold at the same time people gonna act out this year I think I'm the fool people got food Act

— [153:18.260 --> 153:26.340] out as in crime up or partying up? Partying. I think all that. Both. Partying. All partying. Crime is gonna be up. Nudity.

— [153:26.680 --> 153:34.700] It's gonna be a hot summer. Traffic. The sundresses are gonna be a little, a little. Sundressy? They was already out. No, no, no.

— [153:34.700 --> 153:43.020] A little sunny. A little more sunny than what they used to be. They definitely gonna be a little more skimpier with the dress. Yeah. I think it's gonna be hotter

— [153:43.120 --> 153:51.320] than it typically is. Did they close down that fucking bullshit in Jackson, New Jersey yet? No, no. They're actually getting ready to open this weekend.

— [153:51.380 --> 153:59.840] No, South Seat, look it, there you go. Great Adventures, nothing great about it. Don't be shitting on Great Adventures, man, they all

— [153:59.840 --> 154:07.900] right. Fuck Great Adventures. Amusement parks is over. And New York. Do y'all still do amusement parks? Hell no. Hell

— [154:07.900 --> 154:16.100] no. Why, because y'all have kids? Hell yeah. I do it too. I do amusement parks. State Fair. I do all that shit. My kid can't get there if I don't bring him.

— [154:16.480 --> 154:24.480] Right, you're not a little baby. Yeah, fuck that. Disney never gets old to me. Do schools even do trips to the amusement parks anymore No, they test they do a

— [154:24.480 --> 154:32.900] little bit. They do trips. I'm not necessarily programs Yeah, my kid got got a spill trip next 1 in a room or something that niggas was gonna bomb Disneyland. Mm-hmm

— [154:33.260 --> 154:41.480] I'm sure it was gonna attack it yeah y'all know what I always wanted to do you ever see people go adults to go to Disney World what when I went to

— [154:41.480 --> 154:49.820] do I kept seeing grown-ass people going to this right here right and then they have they have that thing where you can tour,

— [154:49.900 --> 154:58.080] you know that part where it's different bars. So you, what is it called? The tour of Disney or the tour of the world? I never been. The challenge is you get

— [154:58.080 --> 155:06.280] dressed as your favorite princess or Disney character. You go to this section of Disney where they have all sections. You can drink and- I could've swore I

— [155:06.280 --> 155:14.420] saw y'all. Oh, that was- Saw who? Goofy. Do y'all know what I'm talking about? You do. Pluto. Oh, shit.

— [155:14.420 --> 155:22.840] That's funny, sir. Give me your phone. I don't know my phone. You talking about Epcot Center and all that? I

— [155:23.740 --> 155:31.760] don't know if it's Epcot, but it's 1 of those parks in Disney where they have these like mock worlds, right? So you do the tour, I

— [155:31.760 --> 155:39.880] don't know why it's like skipping, but you know what I mean? It's escaping me when I try this out. Careful what picks you pull up now. I ain't pulling no picks. You might never lead a part. No, let

— [155:39.880 --> 155:47.960] me go to the big fan. It's a good gig, bitch. You might start getting here on time. You know what I mean. I

— [155:47.960 --> 155:56.280] see your face in the picture. Cut it out, yo. What happened? Oh,

— [155:56.360 --> 156:06.320] you're drunk. You good? You dappin' him? I pointed and laughed. I ain't dappin'. I'm

— [156:06.340 --> 156:14.720] just gonna stop. Who said that? Mark is so hungry. Who said Epcot? The sun's going down. The sun is going down. 32

— [156:14.720 --> 156:22.740] minutes slower than it's ever going down. The shit going, actually it's going back up. Yeah it works, it's getting brighter. That's what it is y'all, it's

— [156:22.780 --> 156:31.020] Epcot. It's Epcot y'all, it's the drinking, it's the drinking around the world Epcot tour. Take that nigga's glasses too, fuck out of here. Yeah, for sure, I'll do what I want with my hands. So

— [156:31.020 --> 156:39.800] it's the drinking around the world tour of Epcot and you go you go to Japan you get some sake You go to Germany and you get what do you mean? Beer

— [156:39.880 --> 156:47.900] right, but people be fucked up when people get to spot 4 or 5 their shit faced already But I always wanted to do that. I always wanted to try Disney as an adult because when I went

— [156:47.900 --> 156:55.920] with my kids, the grown people be looking like they're having so much fun. They got Amsterdam. They got everything. Why, because you want to go to Amsterdam. What you want to do in Amsterdam? What you want to do in Amsterdam?

— [156:56.060 --> 157:04.080] Ho-am. What you want to do in Ho-am? What you want to do in Ho-am? He's trying to get some Disney. Red Light District. The little lady cider. What you want to get there? Yo, that's a dash. Yo. What did

— [157:04.080 --> 157:12.140] you say? What the fuck man, that's disgusting. You a nasty nigga, B. He said you wanna go to Amsterdam. What you wanna go there for? What drink you gonna get from there? She said

— [157:12.140 --> 157:20.380] sake, beer, what you gonna get from there? Pussy juice. Crazy. Stick it in there. Say lady cider? Lady cider. Lady cider. He's like, hell. Is you never been,

— [157:20.380 --> 157:28.440] you never been to Red Light District? Uh-uh. Is the Red Light District? You're not allowed to have your phone out. You said you don't want to go. I don't need my

— [157:28.440 --> 157:36.480] phone out. Dick out. Heard you. Heard you, buh-bye. Wall it out. You've been to Red

— [157:36.480 --> 157:44.480] Light District before, right? Me? Yeah. Before I die, I'm a barber. Did you Partake? Run the Red? What time was it when you went? Was

— [157:44.480 --> 157:55.160] it that'll Tell me all I need to know was it 12 time. Yeah Bruce come out at night Back

— [157:55.160 --> 158:03.600] when it was still a district the 90s Yeah, I'm ready. I'll talk about going to him today in them other spots. You fucked out

— [158:03.820 --> 158:12.180] there? Yeah. Yeah. Why the fuck would you? You? No. You

— [158:14.340 --> 158:22.420] copped it? Yeah. And he said, did you pay for pussy? You copped it or you just talked his way into

— [158:22.420 --> 158:30.900] the prostitute You paid

— [158:32.840 --> 158:40.860] That's what you do I'm saying you pay pay or you try to discount. Did you go for cheaper girl? Did you go for

— [158:40.900 --> 158:49.080] some of the girls? It's been so many decades now, I don't even remember. Which window did you go? Yeah, did you go to the window where the store was closed and a special knockie? Open

— [158:49.180 --> 158:57.400] it. Or did you do the 1 with the live girl? Such a long time ago. He got a slanted scalp because she was a little fat. Wait, you

— [158:57.400 --> 159:05.500] know of a spot that has a special knockie? A few of them out there got a special knock. Yeah, nigga, you know a spot that got a special knockie. You know 1 thing. You know

— [159:05.500 --> 159:22.120] 1 of them. You know 1 of them. We were rude, nigga. Yeah, we're rude. I'm not from there. Talking about my tenant live here yo

— [159:22.800 --> 159:30.900] I want I want to curse somebody out And I know you pieced it up. You? Well, she did, man. Nah. Nah, it's crazy, so I wanted to. You wanted to curse

— [159:30.900 --> 159:39.300] somebody out? Yo. You in the fucking way. What? Somebody still fucking up the definition of straight out there? We got to set these motherfuckers

— [159:39.540 --> 159:48.160] straight. Straight. Straight. I'm going to look at the camera as I do it. Respectfully. Tell

— [159:48.160 --> 160:00.560] me when to hit play D1 Yo, I respect what you're trying to do Oh

— [160:15.060 --> 160:23.300] your creator I got the data most these women ain't trying to steal these trying to pay the money if they could they would do what they get physical abuse drug

— [160:23.300 --> 160:31.400] use transactional sex btmc you think that's cool club down and move around talking about you protecting black women you're

— [160:31.400 --> 160:39.780] a clown nigga Talkin bout you You a You a You have good wings

— [160:43.540 --> 160:52.020] Can't believe we had enough works Nah let that ride oh You don't give a damn We don't give a fuck. You

— [160:52.020 --> 161:00.120] don't give a damn, we don't give fuck, ayy. I bet you and want your daughter on that pole. I bet you and want your daughter on that pole. What? What are we doing?

— [161:00.520 --> 161:08.680] Thank you, God damn. Shout out to my brother D1. Love you, bro. Shout out to D1. Please, Mark. Shut up. I'm going to hate for him. Hate

— [161:08.680 --> 161:16.880] my friend. Hate for him. Please. I love D1, man. I love the positive energy. Shout out to D1. I like what he's standing for, but there's a such thing as clout chasing with more rules. It's like,

— [161:16.880 --> 161:25.120] listen, fam, We didn't need this record. We didn't need this shit. This shit is corny I think we didn't need it. To strip club and you stand in front of Magic City I'm guessing

— [161:25.120 --> 161:33.380] there's the perfect time to do it because of the whole Magic City. Oh the man in city time. It's clout chasey. It's just like and I get it There is some level of of truth

— [161:33.380 --> 161:41.400] and things that you saying that we should pay attention, but this ain't the time for me. When is the time? You about to get a video. Not now, nigga. You about to get a video. I don't give a fuck. Oh, all right. I don't

— [161:41.400 --> 161:49.780] care. I support D1, I like what he's doing. He already told me. I don't care. Well, that's 2 positive rappers in a row that you've had a problem with, are you worried about how that may

— [161:49.780 --> 161:57.860] look? Shug night? I have a problem with people who are using clout-chasey ways to get their morals across. Well, that's like doing it. You know, that's

— [161:57.860 --> 162:06.020] literally what evangelism is, to go around and spread it. You know D1 believes every word that he said in that song. And you know that song gonna go on the strip

— [162:06.020 --> 162:14.040] club. Like I know he wasn't trying to make a slap. But, if that come on in the spot, I might

— [162:14.040 --> 162:22.100] degrade some bitches. I can see them doing it. Joe, if you think that's playing in any strip club in America, you got shit. I bet she, I bet you. I'm requesting

— [162:22.600 --> 162:31.020] it. I got it to gray bitches to that. See, you make it nasty when you say to gray. Listen, I respect what

— [162:31.020 --> 162:39.120] he's done. I respect the message he's trying to... It don't sound like it. I do. What has he done? But I do think that there's a way... Cleaned up the community. Shit on Joe. Oh get the fuck on.

— [162:39.220 --> 162:47.300] Then piece it up. Please get your stuff. Let me ask y'all, could he have gotten his message without this song? Yeah, like come on. I don't think there's nothing wrong with him making a... He's a rapper. He's a rapper and he wanted to try.

— [162:47.300 --> 162:55.920] I just asked the question. I would say no. I'm not gonna. I would say he couldn't reach the masses or reach as many people. He reached the masses. Yeah.

— [162:55.960 --> 163:04.100] No, I'm not worried. I think he is. How is he not reaching the masses? We are talking about it. We just played the song. With the platform of millions of people talking about him. He was just on Joe and Jada last week.

— [163:04.540 --> 163:12.860] He had a beef or battle with Rick Ross. I mean, like, he's in the public. I think this is how you do it. If you don't know about what they're trying to do with the strip clubs or whatever,

— [163:12.860 --> 163:21.160] you might have found out by his song. You might want to look into it, because why the fuck is he dissing strip clubs all of a sudden you look into it then you know so yeah yeah support yeah yeah support what

— [163:21.160 --> 163:29.280] he believes in it healthy positive rap yes why would I mean I've said on this platform 50 times I like my rap real violent and fill with drugs and violence

— [163:29.340 --> 163:37.420] and kill killing kill kill fucker cheat on her killer put your Gucci on that's what I like so fuck no I don't like this bullshit

— [163:37.420 --> 163:45.580] I used to love going to the strip club, but I don't know if I can anymore. And that's my point, Barks. That's my point. I think it was effective. You really do support

— [163:45.580 --> 163:53.700] what he said. Hold on. You support what he's saying, right? Powder to my. I think what he's saying, there's some level of truth to some of the things right there's also part

— [163:53.700 --> 164:03.568] of me That says I don't want to hear this bullshit. I'm still gonna go to the strip club And What

— [164:03.568 --> 164:11.600] she said Oh. Is it jealousy? You know? That's what I'm saying. What she saying? See, he's on the good side. I told you, anyone getting it. No, please, no. Nigga, they scared of your bad side. They scared of you, you're

— [164:11.600 --> 164:19.660] mad, buddy. Let's go, nigga. Let's get it. It's about being prepared. Ain't nobody being scared. She said if he asked you to sing on the hook,

— [164:19.760 --> 164:27.760] what'd you have? No, I would not sing that on this fucking hook. No, no, sing a hook on the song. On this song? No. Got it. I don't think I would. I

— [164:27.760 --> 164:36.020] feel like your problem is just you feel like the song is wack. No, I feel like it's clout, Chacey. I feel like standing in front of Magic City right after the whole Magic City

— [164:36.020 --> 164:44.060] shit went in Atlanta, I feel like you going ahead and doing this at this opportune moment is clout, Chacey. But that's the whole point of his

— [164:44.060 --> 164:52.060] mission. That's it. But that's what he's supposed to do. But that's his mission. I'm not, I'm not even like- Marketing. When he says- You said, you said, I have a problem with this nigga. You really did a 1

— [164:52.060 --> 165:00.120] on 1 to the camera. I got a problem with you. You need to let me finish the statement. I didn't say, I didn't get why he's doing it. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I still think it's clout chasing. Okay. Yeah,

— [165:00.120 --> 165:08.240] and I'm saying- That's it. Because evangelism, that's the point that I have known. That's my point, if you're an evangelist. If you're a rapper and you get an opportunity to market your song, it's marketing.

— [165:08.620 --> 165:16.840] A rapper and an evangelist. You know what I'm saying? So is that Cloud Chase-y when you roll a thing? You support the record, right? Yeah. You support the message, right?

— [165:16.840 --> 165:24.920] The record sucks. You support it too, right? 100%. You support the record and you support what he's saying, right? Right me to what you support the record and what he's saying, right? I

— [165:24.920 --> 165:33.100] support the record because I support freedom of expression But my belief system is totally against what he's saying. I totally disagree with that. And that's

— [165:33.100 --> 165:41.140] what I'm saying. He's love, but nigga, bitches have to go. I totally disagree with what he's saying in it. This, this, this, this, this, this, this thinking out there, I wanted to

— [165:41.140 --> 165:49.580] stay away from sounding like this so bad cause I know they paint me as the toxic strip club nigga and ex-boy girls. They paint you, right? Bob

— [165:49.580 --> 165:57.660] Ross. Well, yeah, because that attaches me to their views of it. Their ideology of a strip club. So now that we have these rights. And those

— [165:57.660 --> 166:05.880] are not my views. So I respect D1 back to my earlier EJ point. Hey, that's how you feel. Live and

— [166:05.920 --> 166:14.280] let live. But I don't agree with his overall premise that strip clubs are toxic to the community

— [166:14.480 --> 166:22.520] and these women shouldn't be doing this and yada yada. I totally disagree with that. What'd you think about the rapping? Not bad. No I don't think the rap is bad. Not the worst. I never said anything

— [166:22.520 --> 166:30.860] about the rap. Me and D1 have pieced it up. I know, I know. I was just taking it from an angle. I don't have a beef with nothing D1 does because

— [166:30.860 --> 166:38.920] I have a better understanding of who he is, his message and how he is carrying it, right? Even with our initial

— [166:38.940 --> 166:47.080] disagreement when he was talking to Meek Mill and the rappers, I never disagreed with his premise. I just thought he could go about it a different way. I didn't

— [166:47.080 --> 166:55.080] think that was the best way to pull the best out of the artist he was naming. But then I learned he ain't really trying to pull the best out of them that way. He's calling shit, he's calling spade

— [166:55.080 --> 167:03.580] to spade. How y'all mad at me, y'all don't fuck with me. So I appreciate that about him. I don't agree with everything he does, man. I'm not gonna... He's

— [167:03.660 --> 167:11.760] brave. I think he's brave too. He's very brave. I think he's sincere. I led with saying I do think that he has a noble cause that he's doing.

— [167:11.760 --> 167:19.920] I think he just picked a fine opportune time to clout chase through his morals. That's it. Now, I didn't say the song was bad because he can clearly

— [167:19.920 --> 167:28.040] rap. I'm not saying he can't rap. What about albums? Aside from that, I'm just saying a lot of what he was saying and he's a very knowledgeable

— [167:28.200 --> 167:36.240] man. Can I ask you a question? But is a large part of why you're calling it clout, Chacey because of the timing that he

— [167:36.240 --> 167:44.320] chose Yes, that's it Well,

— [167:44.320 --> 167:52.340] please answer me when he says when he brings up evangelism, right Knowing you know what evangelism is right? So when you think about it

— [167:52.340 --> 168:00.640] that way, that's the whole fucking point to jump on a hot topic and use it. You know what I mean? Like that's the whole thing. That's the only thing that I'm like confused by when you say cloudy, because He's supposed

— [168:00.640 --> 168:08.960] to do that. He's ministering. He's ministering. He's trying to get the kids, the teenagers and all that. So I do think a lot of evangelists that I'm familiar with,

— [168:08.960 --> 168:17.080] to me, a lot of them are clout chicks. Okay, now I get it. Totally get what you're saying. And they utilize things like this to self-service while also doing a job. So I'm not

— [168:17.080 --> 168:25.140] saying that he's that, but if we label him as that, and I never really put him as just simply a evangelist, I put him as something a little bit

— [168:25.160 --> 168:33.160] more than that. So I attached the evangelist part to being a little bit clout-chasey. I also attach using the

— [168:33.160 --> 168:41.300] opportune time with the Atlanta Hawks magic city shit standing in front of magic city as very clout chasie. Okay.

— [168:41.380 --> 168:49.740] Are you I think but not saying that he doesn't have a message that's in there. I'm just saying the timing of it to me comes off. So here's my question. Clout chasy through your morals.

— [168:49.900 --> 168:58.020] That's all. Here's my question. What would a non clout chasy way to approach this look like? Maybe not maybe not using this moment to make a song out

— [168:58.020 --> 169:06.040] of it standing in front of the spot maybe also give both sides of it, because just like Joe was saying, you can see the 1 side of what

— [169:06.040 --> 169:14.060] he's saying is accurate, but there's also a other side of it that's not that detrimental to the people involved. Okay, so, so, so, I mean, can I answer? Yeah. A non-Cloud Chase-y moment,

— [169:14.060 --> 169:22.240] not waiting to this to do it. If you felt this way, you don't have to wait for this. But he has been saying. But he has been saying. But he has been saying. What I'm saying is he's made 1000000 songs like this.

— [169:22.240 --> 169:30.780] Shut the strip clubs down. That's all I'm saying. So my answer to you is, I think. Bro, There's

— [169:30.780 --> 169:38.860] a reason why we play ads at the Super Bowl. Right. It's a reason why you market things in the manner in which you market them. You market them so that they can

— [169:38.860 --> 169:46.860] be successful. So if you have eyes over here on this particular thing and on this particular medium, it would behoove him to put it out right

— [169:46.860 --> 169:55.020] around now when this is going on. Okay, let me ask you a question. I agree with you. And we also call out companies that utilize like Black History Month or

— [169:55.160 --> 170:03.180] whatever to do their cloudy shit to get their product across. We call it what it is. But you know why we call it that? I'm with you, I know what

— [170:03.180 --> 170:11.280] you're saying. I'm saying to you, I'm not. They only do it. They just throw the money side. It's exploitation. I'm not saying that,

— [170:11.540 --> 170:19.620] I'm not saying that him using it at this moment wasn't the most effective point to do so. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that when you do it, it is labeled a thing

— [170:19.660 --> 170:28.100] and a lot of people consider it as cloudy. But when I say to you as 1 of those people who considers it that way, to me it's not cloudy, because again,

— [170:28.280 --> 170:36.360] when a company does it during Black History Month, we feel away because they only do it during the history month. Yes. This is his mission. You wouldn't

— [170:36.360 --> 170:44.480] feel like it. I'm not familiar enough, but when you said he has these songs already, and from what I do know about the brother that I'm

— [170:44.480 --> 170:52.480] never going to knock him, period, because he seems to be authentic. And this is who he's going to die over this shit. So I can never knock it.

— [170:52.540 --> 171:00.560] And once you explain that part, it's been rocked out. I think for me, rocked out. I'd love to finish him, honey. Go ahead. Ooh. Oh, shit. If you look

— [171:00.560 --> 171:08.660] at his Instagram, you see he does it daily, 365. The other thing is, yeah, there are multiple sides to it, but I wouldn't expect a Christian minister to offer the pro

— [171:08.660 --> 171:16.800] strip club argument in a song or in a speech, and that's what he is. So I don't think he's being 1 sided. I think he's offering this side he believes in. So as someone up here

— [171:16.800 --> 171:24.960] who is not as familiar with all the things that he's done and the albums and all that other stuff, I can understand the confusion for me, which to

— [171:24.960 --> 171:33.160] me, most of the masses who don't know this guy and that's probably their first impression of him are going to feel that way. So I'm only reacting as someone who's not

— [171:33.160 --> 171:41.300] as familiar as you guys. That's it. So I can hear you now and say, okay, maybe before labeling

— [171:41.360 --> 171:50.160] it as clout, Chacey, maybe there's some level of research to do before that. But the moment for someone who is not, what'd you say? Nothing.

— [171:50.160 --> 171:58.280] See, that's the problem. You still trying to, he still. What? I'm agreeing with you. I didn't hear what you said. Then what are you getting feeling about? But you snuck something. You gotta be on your toes with this guy.

— [171:58.280 --> 172:06.380] Yeah, you snuck snuck. It's cool. We gotta fight each other. I keep telling you, we gotta rumble. We gotta rumble, y'all. So for this, for

— [172:06.380 --> 172:14.420] this for me is a matter of, yo. It's still bright out there. He weak too, he hungry, beat him up. It's a matter of me being someone who's not

— [172:14.420 --> 172:22.460] familiar with the guy and who's only seeing him choose moments that feel like they're attached to a certain thing, it feels like you're using

— [172:22.560 --> 172:31.270] these certain moments to get this shit off, which comes off like the evangelist shit that I've also deemed as clout. How do you feel about Christmas records? That's

— [172:31.270 --> 172:39.600] a great question. That's a great question. That's a great question. What are you talking about? He's asking you how do you feel about Christmas albums. So

— [172:39.600 --> 172:47.780] you're talking about Christmas which praises the idea of Christmas I should look at in the same as someone talking down or something? I think he's only

— [172:47.780 --> 172:55.840] talking about an artist creating a Christmas album and putting it out around Christmas. I think everything could be a matter of clout, Chacey. I also said this is clout, Chacey,

— [172:55.840 --> 173:04.000] through his morals. I didn't say the man is just doing this because he has no morals. Are you saying that the Christmas album is clout, Chacey? No, I'm saying that's the season,

— [173:04.000 --> 173:12.460] and that's the time of the year that people celebrate So that wouldn't be considered clout chasing What I think would be clout chasing is if you're not actually Christian

— [173:13.080 --> 173:22.340] and you decide to all of a sudden want to drop Some of the biggest Christmas songs ever written by juice true. What does have to do with the set? Come

— [173:22.340 --> 173:30.340] on Parks to change Nobody's come on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just yeah, just

— [173:32.320 --> 173:40.380] Part yeah, like today part. Why don't we just say this song ain't really that good? It's the biggest problem with this song. I don't like this song. You know why? Because I can't

— [173:40.380 --> 173:49.920] judge it until I'm throwing money on a bitch. I can't judge it until I'm here, right? Until I wobble start. I got to see

— [173:49.920 --> 173:57.960] how it is when I'm like. Till that thing starts killing me. Yeah, I gotta see what it's like when this is happening. How it flip. Yeah, man. Listen, my

— [173:57.960 --> 174:06.160] thing with D1, and again, I've squashed it with D1. I followed him on Instagram recently. You're bros now. I fuck

— [174:06.160 --> 174:14.660] with him. He followed me first. I had to let it big for a little bit. Because it's weird following dudes. You can't follow right back. But when he hits you, do you say, what's up, bro? No,

— [174:14.660 --> 174:23.060] but I would. Big bro. My thing with D1 is in hip hop, we got enough bad guys. Yeah bro, why

— [174:23.080 --> 174:31.080] would? That's my thing, like I can't have no beef with D1 because it's like Game said on that fat Joe J that shit when he was talking about 50 Cent. He was like,

— [174:31.080 --> 174:39.220] I can't never beef with 50 Cent. We don't have no choice but to be friends because I'm a piece of shit and he's a piece of shit.

— [174:39.520 --> 174:47.940] We all piece of shits. So we understand each other, let's keep moving. I feel like most of us are pieces of shit. So if D1 gotta come

— [174:48.260 --> 174:56.280] every quarter or every fuck every other month and remind us that we pieces of shit well we got 1 person doing it. We got 2, Chance

— [174:56.280 --> 175:04.680] is out there too. I think it's dope. Chance album is fine. You know I seen a clip of chance sitting right here early. I just think it's the canvas part that I

— [175:04.680 --> 175:12.820] forgot about We killed last year kind of we smoked last year Amazing that while later to I go back to

— [175:14.580 --> 175:22.860] Yes, yeah the D1 You should get I think you should You should give it to the DJs when you go. Well, with all my

— [175:22.860 --> 175:31.060] criticism, I still think he's dope. I think he's doing some great shit. I just think even when you're a great person and even when you do have a good cause,

— [175:31.060 --> 175:39.100] you can still do some clout chasing shit. And I just feel like if people made 3 more booty shake anthems after the magic city thing, nobody will call him clout chasing. You know what I mean? And that's the thing

— [175:39.100 --> 175:47.420] that that frustrates me sometimes. I don't think good people make good music. I mean, it

— [175:47.420 --> 175:55.460] is true for the most part. It is for the most part it's true. The ratio is very, it speaks to you. I'm not saying all, I'm saying

— [175:55.460 --> 176:03.780] for the most part, no good people ain't, who's good making music? I don't think the greatest people make what do you mean? What

— [176:03.900 --> 176:12.840] good people are making music? I'm asking like right now or just in general. Yeah Was

— [176:12.840 --> 176:20.880] a great person Jacob And business man had some real shrewd

— [176:20.880 --> 176:28.980] shit about him So if I just get on me I'm just saying if I just speak to his business after him, it's a little, he got some shit. I do believe J. Cole to be a good

— [176:28.980 --> 176:37.100] guy. I think J. Cole's a good guy. I think 1 Mill's decent. I think Chance is a good guy. But I'm assuming that. I never met him. I don't know. Stevie Wonder's a great person.

— [176:37.220 --> 176:45.340] That's maybe the best example. No, man, go ahead. With every name that I think y'all can name and be right on, I don't think it's gonna get past 10% of musicians.

— [176:46.240 --> 176:54.620] I think the majority is still gonna be the 90s 10 for me Most of the good guys in music got some other shit with them. Yeah,

— [176:54.620 --> 177:03.000] maybe like yeah I think the greatest prediction problems are How do you know if you don't know the people? 40s

— [177:03.000 --> 177:11.000] and shoot dice all damn fuck bitches never heard That'll make you a bad person. No, but it could be people that, it

— [177:11.000 --> 177:19.360] could be people on the surface that we think are bad quote unquote pieces of shit that are amazing people. They probably make braille dice. Maybe that's who. Fuck that, I can't find a good podcaster.

— [177:21.140 --> 177:30.820] And I'm not looking for him. I don't want to hear no good living ass nigga sit on them here Yes,

— [177:31.460 --> 177:40.660] yes, I need to hear about chaos and terror What

— [177:40.840 --> 177:49.280] does that say about us says I'd like to curate my own entertainment I don't have enough because I'm clearly I'm claiming

— [177:49.400 --> 177:57.460] I say it all the time Nobody want to hear the story from a good girl Yeah, nobody want to hear the good girl story. Oh, I went

— [177:57.460 --> 178:05.560] to the club. I didn't talk to anybody I didn't take a picture. I drunk some water. I went home and didn't give anyone any pussy well thanks mom move move it let your homegirls you would you what would you want

— [178:05.560 --> 178:13.900] to hear would you want to hear a story from the bad girl turn good? Because once a good girl's throwing bad yeah maybe so

— [178:13.900 --> 178:22.280] I feel I hear what you're saying because I agree with that Nobody wants to speak to someone that just hasn't experienced anything or hasn't went through some ups and downs. But I 100%

— [178:22.340 --> 178:30.440] want to, that's a big part of why I love the idea of talking to Mike Tyson. To me, he's the most intriguing person because he's been through every

— [178:30.440 --> 178:38.560] level of... He's also a Trump supporter. What, listen, I'm not getting to... I support him supporting Trump though. He's the

— [178:38.560 --> 178:46.620] only 1 for me. Why? Probably because I looked him in his eyes and had this talk, like, and he... Oh, you did interview him.

— [178:46.620 --> 178:54.760] Yeah, I looked him in his eyes and asked him how that and he said, yo, I don't give a fuck what none of y'all talking about and I don't give a fuck what President Trump is doing. Trump was there for

— [178:54.760 --> 179:02.980] me in the 80s, got me out of jail, the world turned their back on me. He was the only 1. He did this, he did that, he did that. So no matter what happens, I'm flying with him.

— [179:03.000 --> 179:11.280] I told y'all that the people that, so when it's from the 80s, I ain't saying nothing, and he dead ass, he meant it, and he could beat me up. But, yeah, and he could beat me up.

— [179:11.280 --> 179:19.340] Me and my man was on the phone yesterday, and niggas was like, yo dog, we was talking about some Trump shit. And I was like, yo, you

— [179:19.340 --> 179:27.560] know how I fuck with this nigga? But this nigga got a degree of loyalty that comes from yesteryear. That nigga

— [179:27.560 --> 179:35.720] looks out for his peoples. I'm gonna be Trump. Who? Donald Trump. I don't wanna hear, I don't wanna hear. I mean, I hear you, but I don't. So to your point, that is some old ideology.

— [179:36.100 --> 179:44.160] My Mike Tyson point was solely speaking to seeing a human. This nigga just cut me off of Syria. Because I- You fly. Why you, what

— [179:44.160 --> 179:52.260] the fuck? I only cut you off because I didn't want to get into crazy niggas think we holding Trump down. These niggas know I

— [179:52.260 --> 180:00.400] despise Trump if they watch this show. But I just think Mike as a human has been through so many different levels of us viewing

— [180:00.400 --> 180:14.800] him in so many different ways that to see him at this point. It's

— [180:14.800 --> 180:23.280] time for a monologue. And you was man slow. They seen you, girl. Oh, shit. I'm not even allowed to touch that thing. Oh, my god. Please, start

— [180:23.300 --> 180:31.340] saying it. I was trying to say something before. Please finish. Something I was trying to say before. Listen, in real life, I believe 1 of the best things we could do

— [180:31.340 --> 180:41.980] as a society. They may not say stuff. Shut these strip clubs down. I would, no. But canceling

— [180:42.820 --> 180:50.820] the definition and the thought of Canceling celebrity as a whole in this country, I think would go a long way. Agreed. I'm so against it. I don't

— [180:50.820 --> 180:59.180] think it could ever happen. I'm so, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't see it here. No, but that, absolutely. Why, because they hold them to a higher standard? Huh? Because people

— [180:59.180 --> 181:07.240] tend to hold them to a higher, unfair standard. Well, the celebrity is at the root of a lot of things

— [181:07.240 --> 181:16.560] that I think are a distraction. I think in 2026, the most important thing that we could do would be to force people to have to Not

— [181:16.560 --> 181:24.580] be anonymous on the internet. Mmm, yeah, that would be ill, Park. I was just talking to Rome about the kids that are on Roblox and all

— [181:24.580 --> 181:32.940] this shit. That would be ill. And it devolved into people on fucking social media, foreign actors, riling people up with fucking rage

— [181:32.940 --> 181:41.320] bait shit. That rage bait shit? Oh man. How do you think that affects directly us? Listen, I think, directly us,

— [181:41.340 --> 181:49.480] I think that, Like I was laughing at myself because I'm glued to what the Giants are gonna do

— [181:49.480 --> 181:59.660] with pick 5 in the draft. Oh Why To

— [181:59.660 --> 182:08.160] me sports that shit don't matter It's not important We so tied up in sports and sports is so important to this country, right

— [182:08.260 --> 182:16.420] that will never actually put our brain power to use to Fight some of the fights that may help or some

— [182:16.420 --> 182:24.640] of the things that could actually be life-changing and world-changing and when you think about it sports is just the bastard child of some

— [182:24.960 --> 182:33.400] trillionaire that wants nothing to do with this shit, wants y'all to be hooked, got Disney and Cahoot's Wadday out there building bunkers and buying acres.

— [182:33.740 --> 182:41.940] And I just think celebrity tied to. So weird that you said that to me. It's not just sports. You have a platform where you,

— [182:42.200 --> 182:50.860] I don't say you rely, I guess to some degree, you rely on people feeling like they can come here and get a little of that escape that

— [182:50.860 --> 182:59.040] other people's get from sports so if you want that for that to happen in sports you can get you can get there without celebrities I think the reason why

— [182:59.040 --> 183:07.360] people lean on getting it from certain people is because they have sports, movies, Hollywood, all that shit, abolish

— [183:07.460 --> 183:15.820] it. That's why I was, bro, that's why you fucked me up. It's so many things. You're such an advocate. Well, I just started at sports, but I got a long list. You're such an advocate of television, though.

— [183:15.900 --> 183:23.920] Like, so any real, like, you know, I used to go to mad real estate seminars and finance seminars and every 1 of them says this thing, you know television is a distractor of

— [183:23.920 --> 183:32.020] success. Right. And so I agree with that. And so when you going at home and it's people that watch 3 and 4 hours of TV every single day. If

— [183:32.020 --> 183:40.240] you took that 3 or 4 hours and applied that shit and allocated it somewhere else, let's just pick a, you wanted to learn French, and you did that every day that you watched

— [183:40.240 --> 183:48.360] TV, and a year you'd be fluent in French. You get what I'm saying? Whatever you wanted to learn how to do. So for you to say it, I agree with you, but I'm just shocked that you're saying it.

— [183:48.360 --> 183:56.400] I think that to Imani's point in the real world, most motherfuckers going through something. It's never going to happen. I know. It's never going to happen.

— [183:56.400 --> 184:04.860] Can I add in fellas? I'm sorry. Please. We're done. I was trying to do a you but you didn't keep it. I get the whole get rid of celebrity

— [184:04.880 --> 184:12.900] thing, right? In my mind when you think about celebrities as far as people being famous for being famous The the the

— [184:12.900 --> 184:21.260] time makes me think of like when Kim K first came about right? That's when it was like like, you know, like Paris Hilton Stars right

— [184:21.260 --> 184:29.460] and it's like not even reality stars, but just almost like- Socialites. Yeah, there's socialites, there's Uber, Rich or whatever in there, we're watching them. When it come to Joey,

— [184:29.460 --> 184:37.460] he wouldn't really fit in the celebrity thing because he has a talent. He can rap, right? The people that actually can do things, I can

— [184:37.460 --> 184:45.560] almost understand why you would be known for that because you have fans that like what you do. But the being famous just for being famous thing, I think it's done

— [184:45.560 --> 184:53.800] no good for none of us. That's number 1, number 2. This country has always, has bred and built on, like 1 of y'all said already, on the actor

— [184:53.800 --> 185:01.800] and television and the movie. That's why Ronald Reagan was the president. That's part of the reason, a big part of the reason why Donald Trump is the president is because

— [185:01.800 --> 185:10.080] of that show. The Princess. The Princess, it's a bona fide fact. Some Americans, it is plugged in, he a CEO, he a boss, he hiring fire,

— [185:10.080 --> 185:18.340] he run shit. He gonna run it like a business and get it, yeah. You asked that first 1. They were saying a lot of that shit before. Yeah, so You watch that first 1 and you talking to people in the street. 1 of the first reasons

— [185:18.340 --> 185:26.680] why they say, oh, because he's a good businessman. If you look him the fuck up, you can see how bad of a businessman he is. But he was on television looking like a good businessman on every week.

— [185:26.680 --> 185:34.920] Perception. Right. Perception. So I can see when y'all, I used to say all the time that I didn't understand why celebrities were so

— [185:34.920 --> 185:42.940] important. For example, if some world crazy thing happens, we go to war, this happens, and the news look right in the camera and say, let's cut to Boosie and see what

— [185:42.940 --> 185:50.940] he thinks. And I don't give a fuck about what Boosie thinks about war or some fucking oil spill. You know what I mean? I want to hear from a specialist. And why would they

— [185:50.940 --> 185:59.280] tune into here and give a fuck about what we saying? Imani, that's what's going on now. I'm just saying I can appreciate the thought of celebrities

— [185:59.540 --> 186:07.540] being dis Now of course, for me, even when I've heard people say things about me, like, I've been compared to,

— [186:07.540 --> 186:15.700] some people just, this lady just compared me to Brovilla. But what's the difference between her and you? She, you know, you ran with your, with your chance. You went viral and you ran with it. The

— [186:15.700 --> 186:24.040] difference is, is that if you strip all this internet shit away from me and give me a mic I can make 100 niggas sit around me while I talk. I have a talent stand up. I'm funny

— [186:24.040 --> 186:32.200] You know me that's the separation. Yeah. This part is not is not reliant on she's coming celebrities No, I'm posing questions. I'm

— [186:32.200 --> 186:40.240] not not saying am I think to each point the better you are at whatever it is you're doing, you're gonna gain a

— [186:40.240 --> 186:48.380] level of fame because of fandom to where you will be labeled a quote unquote celebrity. So it's something that can't be controlled. If you

— [186:48.380 --> 186:56.780] can sing and motherfucker's gonna come from near and far to hear you sing, after a point, it's gonna be a demand on you singing.

— [186:56.980 --> 187:05.140] Now you're gonna get paid to do it or whatever the case may be. So it's not possible. Sport, same shit. And this construct. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this version

— [187:05.140 --> 187:13.260] of the matrix. Sport, same shit. Everybody can't do what Steph is doing right? But we praising the wrong humans to what to what Mona was saying that

— [187:13.260 --> 187:25.760] whole thing praising the wrong humans famous for being famous shit Yes, it kind of left I'm sorry You

— [187:25.760 --> 187:33.860] know you got that gravel voice. I ain't even know what I'm talking about. No, to your point about the famous for being famous, It is a detriment because now it let anybody think that all I gotta

— [187:33.860 --> 187:42.420] do is gain enough traction I can be famous without a talent and that's where the problem comes in like you say is everybody the sports person the Entertainer

— [187:42.540 --> 187:50.660] anybody you have some sort of a talent you get you you get you play guitar you get a bunch of motherfuckers to listen. This internet shit has, you don't need a talent.

— [187:50.660 --> 187:58.680] You don't need anything. You don't need shit. And it's sick. And then I think it's a certain value in you having a talent to share with

— [187:58.680 --> 188:06.900] people and you not. Because when you don't have anything, you damn near do anything to keep it, and that's when you get into this place where people will get in front of your camera

— [188:06.960 --> 188:14.960] and do what the fuck ever to get you to come see them get in front of the camera again. It's really sick. Once I realized that people

— [188:15.040 --> 188:23.100] don't even know what to eat until you tell them to. I said, oh well fuck it, I'm gonna make me some money. I'm gonna go to the restaurant, tell them, yo, pay me to try your ox tails, I'm gonna try your ox tails. But when

— [188:23.100 --> 188:31.120] you think about it, niggas don't know what to eat until you tell them what you ate. That's crazy. Bro, music used to come out, and niggas would be at my mentions, Yo, ask how

— [188:31.120 --> 188:39.160] we feel about this. How we feel about this. And I was like, nigga, go listen to it. What do you mean how we feel? I don't know you. It's a big ass world. It's a map, glued, and

— [188:39.160 --> 188:47.400] you can spin it. Niggas won't choose. So the world is round? Yo. Can't spin no spill. Can't spin no flat plane. That's

— [188:47.440 --> 188:55.560] dope. Oh shit. People won't go on vacations. They just won't go pick a spot and be like, yo, this look like a nice place to go. Instagram is telling people

— [188:55.560 --> 189:03.640] where to take their families for vacation. It's hot. This is spot, man. Motherfuckers is not going places until the Gram starts promoting this 1 spot, and then once the Gram start promoting

— [189:03.640 --> 189:12.200] it, now everybody and they mother wanna go there. Yo, the masses, this gonna sound crazy, bro, the masses really wanna be led. Sheep, they

— [189:12.200 --> 189:20.280] want to be led, bro. People don't wanna think on their own. Y'all know how blessed we are that we come from an era where we will go outside and just

— [189:20.280 --> 189:28.440] let the wind take us where we take us Like wherever we land is where we landed it when you went outside though The only thing that influenced the only thing that influenced you is

— [189:28.440 --> 189:36.580] y'all niggas meet up on the bikes Maybe the toughest or the smartest or the coolest kid, he led the bike pack, but for the most part, we didn't know where the fuck we was going. And we was

— [189:36.580 --> 189:44.800] outside all day. If you lived in a certain area and y'all was near a creek or something, now y'all at the creek by the water. If you in the city, y'all going to the other side of the city. We come

— [189:44.800 --> 189:52.940] from that era, and these kids, every- Huh, spoiled motherfuckers. My cousin in them had water, I actually was dope too. I was blessed enough to

— [189:52.940 --> 190:01.240] have 2 experiences. My mother moved me out the ghetto in middle school, so I lived in the suburbs in the ghetto, so I did experience the creek in the trampoline. But in Southwest, they got creek. Cobbs Creek is,

— [190:01.240 --> 190:09.380] that's where they put bodies, but like it's creek. Mark, shut up. Ain't nobody going to Cobbs Creek to do no creek stuff. Creek stuff. And instead people, when you shut up too, you don't go

— [190:09.380 --> 190:17.420] to Cobbs Creek, nigga. Cory always trying to like he connected to the city He ain't even loud in the city. I called home to

— [190:17.420 --> 190:25.680] the Muslims and told them what he be saying about Ramadan. Yeah, I just think more evil comes from sin. No, I think 1 of your points was valid.

— [190:25.680 --> 190:33.940] Like, we are celebrating the wrong people. Yeah. We celebrate the wrong shit. Bro, we celebrate the wrong people. I don't think that's

— [190:33.940 --> 190:41.940] new. I think that's been since the beginning. That's the only reason why I'm pushing back. It's nothing new. Like to make a full circle. It's a little different. The D1 nigga

— [190:41.940 --> 190:50.020] could be celebrated for the things that he's doing in the community or trying to accomplish in the fucking community. It is a little different. We have less access. Now we know what the

— [190:50.020 --> 190:58.280] nigga eat, what he drink, who he. For a perfect example, when we came up, we didn't know what DMX wife look like. Like we never knew what niggas baby moms, wives,

— [190:58.440 --> 191:06.600] right now it's a Nice amount of people where their fame starts and lies on, I had a baby by such and such. And now some

— [191:06.600 --> 191:14.620] of these motherfucking baby moms bigger than a nigga now. They've like, and legit, if you look back, that's it. There's no other thing.

— [191:14.720 --> 191:23.120] And that's a whole generation of young girls that want to aspire to be the baby mom now. That's what D1 was saying. I think that concept is,

— [191:23.200 --> 191:31.680] that's not a new concept, but like I said, it is heightened to a certain degree because of the access that we all allow people to have and put out there.

— [191:32.440 --> 191:40.440] It's heightened to every degree. Well, yeah, to the highest degree. I'm with y'all on that. I just think the stripping of celebrity is a great idea, but then it gets kind of tricky. I feel like

— [191:40.440 --> 191:49.260] you straightened it and turned it into us, so why don't they do that to us? No, no, I just wanted to use it as an example, because Everybody up here didn't come from entertainment or

— [191:50.160 --> 191:58.260] having some type of background that was actually stamped as what it is. Outside of Mark. If I ever moved out of the country, that's gonna be the main reason. Just sick of

— [191:58.260 --> 192:06.500] the celebrity. And anonymity. Sick of the celebrity bullshit. Sick of the things that Americans worship. You've passed that. What? Oh, you think I'm,

— [192:06.600 --> 192:14.854] no, I think I could go somewhere. I don't know where it's supposed to go. I mean, you could go some places where you won't be as identifiable, but you will be identifiable

— [192:14.854 --> 192:22.860] worldwide. I still think there's a level of, because you are where you're at now and clear celebrity, but there even

— [192:22.860 --> 192:31.300] is like a next level of that that could even push you to wanna do that even sooner. Because There's

— [192:31.300 --> 192:39.360] also levels to celebrity that once you reach, you get a totally different experience from what you're getting. So right now, if you're annoyed at what you're getting

— [192:39.360 --> 192:47.720] right now, could you imagine that next level of celebrity that you'll reach that'll push you in that direction? Yeah, I look at it, I remember, wait,

— [192:47.720 --> 192:55.780] Eminem gotta move around. Go ahead, Joe. You said this, though. It ain't dope, right? It's not fun, right? Shit kinda ass, ain't it? You said this, though. You

— [192:55.780 --> 193:03.940] said like when you go to the Grammys or when you go to the Met Gala, it'll let you know your level of celebrity. Yeah, but I mean, if you

— [193:03.940 --> 193:12.040] leave it to me, I would pay to have my celebrity decreased even more. Like, I ain't just saying, what the hell is that shit? You don't think your celebrity to

— [193:12.040 --> 193:20.100] some degree relies on your growth and your income at this point? No. Like you think you could still grow and...

— [193:20.100 --> 193:28.440] I don't think that at all. No. I'm just asking. Just think of it all over television, like all over. But that lends into the celebrity. I think if we sit here and continue to have

— [193:28.680 --> 193:36.820] amazing and compelling conversations, then this business is going to grow and my income is going to grow. But so will your celebrities. With the celebrities I go to. Because you'll start to reach more

— [193:36.820 --> 193:44.840] and more and more. How's gonna you scale more? I can't avoid that Joe. Can I ask you all a question? Okay, I understand what you're saying. It is a correlation. It's a correlation. There's no way you can avoid it. Because we can never get rid of

— [193:44.840 --> 193:53.000] celebrity here. Like, if you do, if you're great at something and you continue to do it and your money goes up, they will make you be a celebrity. That's public.

— [193:53.140 --> 194:02.160] Like, you could be the best engineer at Microsoft. But I don't want to be this shit. I feel like I have the perfect amount of celebrity that I could handle. Like,

— [194:02.160 --> 194:10.260] I don't, I can't do what these other niggas do. Bro, you famous like the niggas wait for you to come in and out of places and yell shit to get your attention. Fuck you Joe,

— [194:10.260 --> 194:18.420] you bitch ass nigga. This is for you to look and they go. I have a question for y'all. Do y'all enjoy fame or the level of fame that you

— [194:18.420 --> 194:26.720] have or anything close to that? Do you enjoy it? Tell us. Yup. Love it. It's not. It's pros and cons. It's pros and cons.

— [194:26.720 --> 194:35.100] It's pros and cons. It's pros and cons. It's pros and cons. It's pros and cons. It's definitely pros and cons. I wouldn't want any more. Yes. Love it more than hate. Love it more than hate. That's the perfect way to ask. Loving more than hate. Loving more than hate, yeah, for sure. Loving more than hate.

— [194:35.380 --> 194:44.240] Me too. I don't think it's the proper... So always you mother... I mean, you mean... You asked my question. I'm sorry, that's right. I don't think it's the proper fame

— [194:44.240 --> 194:52.340] that I would like. What does that mean? What does that mean? I don't think I'm famous for the things that I would want to be famous for. But babe, that's not how fame works. I'm just telling

— [194:52.340 --> 195:00.400] you my answer. Just telling you my answer. So Mr. Question, you loving more than hate is real. You on your D in the day. I hate it. You killing shit. You hate it? I hate what I'm famous

— [195:00.400 --> 195:08.560] for now. Got it. E-Manny. No, I understand what you're saying. Okay, thanks. That's the answer. Ice, you said love more than hate? Yeah, absolutely. Love more than hate? I'm

— [195:08.560 --> 195:16.680] surprised that day. You? I hate this shit. I hate it with a motherfuckin bonafide. Hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it. When I first came out, right,

— [195:16.680 --> 195:24.880] a little couple years after I first came out, people used to drag Tiffany Haddish all the time. She had went viral for that video, the little kinky video with the kids and stuff. I

— [195:24.880 --> 195:33.080] used to try to manifest them reaching out to me, because I remember when she first came out, it was like this ghetto girl thing like you know she ready

— [195:33.080 --> 195:41.180] whatever I never caught the ghetto girl thing like I never it didn't come across she didn't come across as a ghetto girl to me. She was just your cousin. Now when you read

— [195:41.320 --> 195:49.380] her story totally getting sleeping in the car where she from being foster kid all that right but I used to like imagine not just her right I just used her because that's

— [195:49.380 --> 195:57.680] what I used to think about. If a team member came to me and said, look, we like your whole thing, you ain't that big yet. Delete all this shit and write for this person. Basically,

— [195:57.680 --> 196:05.740] can we buy your persona and can you continue to flood it? I would have signed up. I would do it now if they can. And the thing about it is for me, and

— [196:05.740 --> 196:13.820] I know this is stupid, but when I was manifesting this and trying this, I never thought about fame for some reason. It just didn't come across to me. Like it literally hit me

— [196:13.820 --> 196:22.080] when it hit me. If that makes sense, right? And I do not enjoy it at all. I would I would I don't mind where I am

— [196:22.160 --> 196:30.220] right now but if somebody gave me a choice to say yo money without the fame I would take

— [196:30.220 --> 196:38.260] it in the heartbeat. I would take it in the heartbeat. Well that's what I was saying to y'all. When I say, did you like fame, I wasn't trying to take it in a brain. And

— [196:38.260 --> 196:46.350] that's why my answer may be a little more complex because I don't agree. I enjoy the idea of fame. A

— [196:47.360 --> 196:55.380] lot of people do. A lot of that starts with the fact that I start as an artist. There's not an artist in the world that can tell me they don't enjoy some type of fame at the beginning. Maybe it changes at some point, whatever.

— [196:56.260 --> 197:04.420] I'm just very big on what do you start to become famous for or what do people start to attach you to more than anything. So for me, I would like to try to

— [197:04.420 --> 197:12.440] transform some of that fame into things that I feel are more positive than things that are like considered to be the instant things you

— [197:12.440 --> 197:20.740] think about. And the reason why I didn't understand. Have you ever considered singing about the ills of strip clubs outside of the strip club? Fark shut up. E-Manny, E-Manny,

— [197:20.740 --> 197:28.740] the reason why when you first said the answer I was kind of like, because I don't know a lot of people that can like, can pick what they famous for or pick, you know what I mean? It's

— [197:28.740 --> 197:36.740] like, that's the thing about fame that makes it suck. You don't know it does. Like what you thinking of, it doesn't

— [197:36.740 --> 197:44.980] exist. There's no such thing if you form an and morph in what you want. Like, that's just not how this shit go. But that don't mean you got to like what you famous for. Like let's say

— [197:44.980 --> 197:53.080] before Kim K is Kim K. Kim K is a walking brand. But if, if, if she was only known

— [197:53.080 --> 198:01.180] to the world because she made a sex tape, she could feel like I don't want to be famous for this. And she's not. That is a thing. But Kim K is a

— [198:01.180 --> 198:09.180] white woman Kim K is attractive And Kim K has what 20 years in the game? I totally get what you're saying. I'm talking about take all of the shit that she has

— [198:09.180 --> 198:17.200] accomplished away what she initially Went viral and worldwide for was a sex tape. So if she never did anything else after

— [198:17.200 --> 198:25.320] that, she could say, yo, I'm famous right now and I don't like why I'm famous. The same thing with Imani, he could say, yo, I might be famous or you

— [198:25.320 --> 198:33.340] could be known for... Known for... X. And I'm not gonna give examples, I'll do it off because I don't want to Center it where I'm making a person but I could be known right

— [198:33.340 --> 198:41.760] now for certain things that keep people acknowledging me in a certain way that do not Service me personally or service what I want my overall

— [198:41.760 --> 198:49.860] career to look like but don't get me wrong in the moment It's beneficial to whatever I have going on But that for me is short-term success as far as what

— [198:49.860 --> 198:57.980] I want to be see. So you consider yourself famous? I consider myself known. Not famous. I consider myself known. Not good. How come you don't sing more?

— [198:59.460 --> 199:08.360] Because the passion isn't there. Okay. Okay. But I would love to be able to take what I'm building now and

— [199:08.360 --> 199:16.500] I might have started to build in a certain way and I've seen all the benefits from it at that point but I didn't have a long-term vision

— [199:16.500 --> 199:24.540] of what this can be, so now that I have a long-term vision of what this can be, I can now decide that some of the things that I'm famous for attached to this side

— [199:24.540 --> 199:32.860] of this shit doesn't really service me long-term. So I'll try to make the steps to try to change that a little bit. I think when it comes to something like this,

— [199:32.960 --> 199:41.100] it is a little similar to reality television in a way of like, you always hear people on reality television say, they cut things out and they snip

— [199:41.100 --> 199:49.380] things up and they made it like this and they push the narrative. When in reality, you giving these motherfuckers, you're giving them the

— [199:49.380 --> 199:57.380] fucking beef and the potatoes and the green peppers, and this is the goddamn still, baby. And for the most part, a lot of times it's a mirror and you see shit,

— [199:57.380 --> 200:05.420] you know what I mean, that you did. Like, you know, even seeing myself gel, gel, gel, like it comes off hard because that's what the fuck I'm giving them. You know what I mean?

— [200:06.360 --> 200:14.460] If I use if I use if I use Joe or anybody else I'm probably gonna put the phone away Your niggas gonna stay on the phone when they get that damn right And listen I wanna ask y'all

— [200:14.460 --> 200:22.540] 1 more question before y'all get crazy I'm starting to think that I have the wrong impression about the Kim K thing I thought that Ray J exposed that with Kim

— [200:22.540 --> 200:30.760] and it was all a plan. That's not true. It wasn't all a plan You believe in the white side, huh? Yeah, that was yeah You believe in the Kim K thing. I believe Ray J. Ray J

— [200:30.760 --> 200:38.940] said it was all a plan by Chris. That was decades later when the Kim K shit was already rolling. I know that, nigga. I'm saying is that a known

— [200:38.940 --> 200:47.080] thing for everybody that that was a planned thing with Chris and Kim? To us. I don't think it's known in this room. It's known to this room. In this room, right. I

— [200:47.080 --> 200:55.240] don't think it's a widespread thing. That's what they currently fighting about now. Yeah, for sure. Ray J Mom just came out and said something. This is an ongoing fight now. Ray J Mom

— [200:55.240 --> 201:03.280] came out and said, it's time for the world to know the truth. And she said, I'm gonna be on this till the death. Like, she's- But why though? Why not?

— [201:03.900 --> 201:12.260] Why not? What's the benefit? I feel like the benefit is... I painted a narrative of my son. Her son has always been... My son was deemed the nasty nigga who exposed the woman when the mob... Her son is the creep. He leaned into it. Yeah.

— [201:12.680 --> 201:20.780] Like you had a fucking lean into it. It was a plan. If he had said the I-I, if he had wanted from the beginning, it wouldn't

— [201:20.780 --> 201:28.960] be fair. If he'd afford it from the beginning, nobody would listen to him, but this is what I would say. It's definitely leaning in. It would have more credit. Somebody would, I wouldn't agree. Whether he leaned in it,

— [201:28.960 --> 201:36.960] whether he leaned in or not, we talk about Kris Jenner, the same Kris Jenner that got Bruce Jenner, Caitlyn

— [201:37.020 --> 201:45.040] formerly known as Bruce Jenner, his shit was dying dead, she bring this nigga from the death, you know you got this Olympian shit, there's no reason

— [201:45.040 --> 201:53.360] why you should be in a fucking apartment or no shit like that. Not true. Let me get you this shit rolling for you. Like she's a B, she's good at what she does, right? I'm a marketing monster.

— [201:53.400 --> 202:01.860] A marketing monster. A branding genius. And we talking about kids. Because Ray J and Kim are fucking kids. So I just, I don't think there's nothing wrong,

— [202:01.980 --> 202:10.109] especially knowing their mom. Like their mom loves them, manage them, don't play no games, don't take no shit. I don't think it's nothing wrong with exposing what happened. Stay right there.

— [202:10.109 --> 202:19.080] He didn't lean into it as a fucking 20 year old. Stay right there. He wasn't. Your mother was your mother before that came out. Yeah. Your mother got 2 celebrity children before

— [202:19.080 --> 202:27.240] that came out. So if your mother was standing on what she's standing on She would have never allowed her son to lean into this narrative that I leaked

— [202:27.240 --> 202:35.280] this tape of me having sex with my girl I think we have a revisionist history

— [202:35.280 --> 202:43.780] about what happened and we taking it for what we think happened. At no point did Ray J ever go out there and say, I leaked the tape. At

— [202:43.780 --> 202:51.820] no point. Yeah, I was gonna come in and ask when y'all say he been leaning on it all this time, like what has he been doing? When the words were going out that he leaked

— [202:51.820 --> 203:00.260] it, because that was the general. No, the words was that it was found, and then they signed off on it. It was lost or whatever, it was vacation

— [203:00.260 --> 203:08.300] shit, and they signed off on it because it was gonna get, yes, that's what was happening. It was never said he walked into there and said, hey, I have a tape on Kim K and put it

— [203:08.300 --> 203:16.360] out. Cool, I'm gonna stay with you. Cool, when people started to formulate whatever opinion they started to formulate, Not

— [203:16.360 --> 203:24.600] once did y'all come out and say, no, this wasn't found. My son and this girl's mother signed into

— [203:24.860 --> 203:32.920] play to set this in motion. Nobody ever said that. So in my opinion, to now come back 20 years later and start standing on

— [203:32.920 --> 203:40.980] that is whack to me. Okay, so so you write about that though. He didn't he did not detest it. He did

— [203:40.980 --> 203:49.300] not go around fighting it. But that's called cahoots. I know they were they were in I believe when this came out.

— [203:49.320 --> 203:57.340] I think something happened with their business dealings or their arrangement to make them not be in coo-coo I think that they blew to where they blew to and

— [203:57.340 --> 204:05.380] it didn't necessarily know not they she I'm talking about Chris and

— [204:05.380 --> 204:13.480] I'm not too all right. I'm to my Yeah, That's what I mean. So I think that, to Joe's point, let's say they ain't cool. I'ma take your premise. Let's say

— [204:13.480 --> 204:21.500] he never leaned into it, and We made this behind the scenes deal. Yeah. Kim Kardashian and all

— [204:21.500 --> 204:29.520] of her sisters and mother are damn near reaching a B independently in their own right. Kim is over a B, but the rest of them are almost at

— [204:29.520 --> 204:38.500] a B. No disrespect to Ray J and them, but this contract or whatever we thought was gonna come from this may not have

— [204:38.500 --> 204:46.500] produced the same results on that end. So now 20, 25 years later for you to now come back and say, yo, I'm beefing to death. No, So that's not what

— [204:46.500 --> 204:54.900] happened. And let me tell you where it starts. The whole reason why this all gets brought back up is because someone else from Ray J's side

— [204:55.140 --> 205:03.320] starts speaking on this in a different way to try to go ahead and clarify what the actual business arrangement was. You then go ahead

— [205:03.320 --> 205:11.600] and have Kim now going on her reality show when Kanye West goes ahead and buys back or gets back whatever other tapes that were around and

— [205:11.600 --> 205:20.040] now start painting the whole image of, yo, I'm so glad that the, You knew what the arrangement was. You had the opportunity to paint it on the E channel for something different,

— [205:20.100 --> 205:28.160] and now you're having Ray J look like something that he never signed up for. Ray J didn't start talking about any of this until someone else started talking about

— [205:28.160 --> 205:36.300] it, and then she went on a national platform crying, pretending like she had no idea what the fuck was going on. Yeah. There was other tapes that were deliverable. There was other

— [205:36.300 --> 205:44.460] tapes that they could have released after that nothing else happened. She made herself a victim. She made herself a victim. Yeah, but that's white girl stuff. But that's the white girl special. That's the

— [205:44.460 --> 205:52.620] white girl special. That's what it is. White girls playing victim. That's what it is. That was the Cahoots. But this is the thing though. No, that's not the Cahoots. That was the Cahoots. Wait, wait, wait, wait,

— [205:52.620 --> 206:01.100] wait, wait, wait. Y'all just said that these 2 people behind closed doors made up a story where this video got out. Decades earlier-ish. Which

— [206:01.100 --> 206:09.360] means y'all were in Cahoots At some point. So now when the cahoots change up. Whether the cahoots was 20 years from ago, we sat down and said, we're gonna say this tape

— [206:09.360 --> 206:17.660] got lost. Nah. If we in cahoots, we gotta remain in cahoots. True. Wait, wait, wait. She went publicly and said she

— [206:18.340 --> 206:26.380] was on drugs doing the tape. She started doing shit that was starting to go against us. And for the record, I don't know that Chris Jenner didn't put the fucking

— [206:26.380 --> 206:34.500] tape out. True. I thought that was the story. A lot of people thought that. That's the 0.1 lot of people thought she did it. That's the point. Niggas do think she did it,

— [206:34.500 --> 206:42.540] but if we made up a story behind closed doors. You were in on a story. Yes. That story was, okay, I don't wanna talk past each other. This is

— [206:42.540 --> 206:50.820] what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, let's take, you wanna talk this thick, guys? This is crazy. I didn't even say nothing yet. No, no, I'm, I'm. These yellow niggas always getting hot. Yeah, I didn't say nothing. No. God damn.

— [206:50.820 --> 206:58.900] What I'm saying is this the Cahoot's part was We got a tape, uh-huh We made a tape

— [206:59.400 --> 207:07.560] We got a tape. I think they came up with whatever plan, we're going to leak this tape and then from there we'll do yada yada yada yada yada yada

— [207:07.560 --> 207:15.860] and it was supposed to be beneficial for them both. Joe, can I cut you real quick? Go ahead. You gotta also remember the woman that's in the tape is also

— [207:16.300 --> 207:24.720] working directly with Paris Hilton at the time, who just did the same thing and saw the success of that tape. So the same company

— [207:24.760 --> 207:33.540] that puts out that tape, all of a sudden is now putting out your tape. Yes. Irrelevant, Booko. Come on. All right, go ahead, finish. Why is that irrelevant? Because

— [207:33.540 --> 207:41.780] it has nothing to do with what trans move forward 20 years. The bottom line is keep going to, I want you to continue. We

— [207:41.780 --> 207:49.920] are, we go behind, we conspire. Both parties conspire. Both parties are aware that a tape is made and a tape will be leaked. Will be

— [207:49.920 --> 208:00.180] released. At some point, you change the story and make me look like the villain. Yes. And because your popularity is

— [208:00.180 --> 208:08.760] through the moon with Ryan Seacrest and your show. Voices loud. And now you with Kanye and Kanye and now you with. And I'm black and you're white. Her popularity skyrocketed so

— [208:08.760 --> 208:16.960] whatever she says the story is, is unfortunately the story. According to Ray J, he's been vocal about the truth for ages and nobody ever

— [208:16.960 --> 208:25.080] paid him any money. He has been, he's been vocal about the truth. So this is the first time I ever saw his mom come out and say, yo enough is enough, yo I've been lying to my kid forever, I'm gonna

— [208:25.080 --> 208:33.200] say something and the world deserves to know the truth and I'm not gonna stop till I get justice, I don't care if I die. Yeah, and I think that- So we added some parts. And I think

— [208:33.200 --> 208:41.780] that, to your point- What was added? You all said it was not added. I've never heard them say that Rick

— [208:42.260 --> 208:50.460] to your point what what's the negative that was spread about Ray J That he was a negative that was spread about Ray J Regarding the

— [208:51.040 --> 209:00.780] sex scandal that they were not in goods that fucking He put out against her against her will She

— [209:00.780 --> 209:08.860] was dry yes, she said they said about she can't say that when she was smiling to the kids. She said it. She said it though. You believed her. She did say

— [209:08.860 --> 209:16.980] it. She said it. She said it. This nigga said I would have to see it after the whole day. And he can. But it's fine, he can check for himself. But that happened. Roll the footage. I saw it. I

— [209:16.980 --> 209:25.600] think Ray J is just now starting to get some people that's on You know what this is going on for long enough That's kind of fucked up

— [209:25.680 --> 209:33.780] He said the mom knew about it and he I think he said the mother went through whatever channels to get the tape out. He said that 15, 20

— [209:33.780 --> 209:41.790] years ago. I thought that was understood. Well, to your point, I get the whole thing when y'all say, we was in Cahoots, we should keep it

— [209:41.790 --> 209:49.860] in Cahoots. 20 years later, you can't come back just like on some salty shit, but it's the way that it went down. You know what I mean? It's, we're not talking about Ray

— [209:49.860 --> 209:57.960] J that fucking works on the bus, that works at the Target or no shit like that. Ray J a hustlin' ass nigga, he's had plenty of successes on his own. He's broke. I'm

— [209:57.960 --> 210:07.240] suing you now for defamation. Yeah, you, y'all took it, Y'all didn't take enough, y'all didn't put enough work into, oh

— [210:07.240 --> 210:15.450] no, he didn't do that. You know what I mean? There's so many different things that they could have done to say, hey, that's not true, yo. You know what I

— [210:15.450 --> 210:23.600] mean? But she leaned into it like white girls do. I just question why, if moms and them was against this from the jump, or whenever they started acting funny towards Ray J, why

— [210:23.600 --> 210:31.660] you wait to 2026 to now come out saying, I'm suing y'all. And enough time has passed, the truth needs to be told. If I'm

— [210:31.660 --> 210:39.680] trying to protect my child, the second y'all started the bullshit, I would have been on that time. I would have been on the television. Yo, yo, yo, they lying. This is what happened.

— [210:39.740 --> 210:47.820] And me and Ray J would have been in a joint press conference. Like yo, this is what happened. Who you looking at? They family outside looking in? Who you think is booking them against Ryan Seacrest and the machine that they- They don't need, This

— [210:47.820 --> 210:55.900] is 20. Just hear me out because there is clips of them. There is clips of the moms sitting when Ray J and Brandy had a VH1 show. They

— [210:55.900 --> 211:03.900] had a show together. There is clips of the mom going on Wendy Williams and speaking against all this shit that was being portrayed about her son. So I don't want to

— [211:03.900 --> 211:12.040] make it seem like it wasn't said. And this is that I'm telling you, I saw it for myself. So maybe when she first said it the first time, the words weren't loud

— [211:12.040 --> 211:20.100] enough because no 1 listened. Now we're in a space where people are now more willing to hear it, especially when you have a woman that's already showcased in certain

— [211:20.100 --> 211:28.360] ways that some of the shit she say is flawed. You've also had Kanye West talk about certain shit in a certain way. You've also had him use Ray J's image in a video

— [211:28.440 --> 211:36.720] to promote the whole incestuous shit that they've been a part to. So yeah, maybe more people are willing to hear all this shit going on now than before.

— [211:37.020 --> 211:45.040] It happens. On top of the fact that I think Ray J is more famous than he's ever been now, all because of him. And then when

— [211:45.040 --> 211:53.040] y'all talk about the parent, when I look at the family outside looking in, I could be wrong. Brandi give me that her mom could tell her some shit. Ray J give me, can't nobody tell him shit

— [211:53.040 --> 212:01.080] ever. So I feel like if mom's coming out now, mom probably been wanting to come out. Mom probably said no back then, but that nigga ain't listening to nobody. Nail was almost like, I told you

— [212:01.080 --> 212:09.220] fucking ass, you ready? Let's get they asses. Because when I first seen Ray J say, this is not true, it was just a stream. It wasn't a real interview. He was home

— [212:09.220 --> 212:17.500] with 3, 4 cameras in front of him. And he like, y'all ready? Y'all ready? Kept counting down. And then he gave it up. And he looked like he was fucked up. It looked like it took a lot for him to do that.

— [212:17.500 --> 212:25.740] I don't think there's nothing wrong with them exposing the nail, especially after all this fucking time. Like, because Kim could have been, and guess what? She could also offer them some paper.

— [212:25.740 --> 212:33.840] Look, don't expose shit. Here goes, she got it. She got it. Yeah. How we know they do that? If you trying to paint my

— [212:33.840 --> 212:42.020] son out like he drugs your daughter Then of course I'm gonna have an issue with that. They never respect the music drop. Good Good talk. I'll turn it

— [213:15.060 --> 213:23.180] We walkin' in the stud party Now this is where we walkin' in the stud party Now this is where we walkin' in the stud party Where the studs at? Where

— [213:23.180 --> 213:31.480] the studs at? Oh. Don't make me get up. So look at her eyebrow up like the Wayne fucking South. My nigga, you got gummy bears

— [213:31.480 --> 213:39.520] on your lap while you're hungry? It's a snack for later. Oh, this is my shit. Nothing better than our fish. I wish it

— [213:39.520 --> 213:47.720] was a classic from heaven. A lot of really, really, really, really passionate conversations today. We did good, guys. These were some really good topics. Good

— [213:47.720 --> 213:57.260] topics, a good broadcast. This is Bobby Brown this right? Yeah You

— [213:57.260 --> 214:07.020] would like this all right you

— [214:07.020 --> 214:15.320] should be famous for singing. I love this shit. I'm in love with her. She said she needs you. Yeah. She never

— [214:15.320 --> 214:31.440] made you. Yeah. Yo, Patronis, I hope you all enjoyed this episode man Is

— [214:31.440 --> 214:52.940] that your wife is that your shorty Any

— [214:52.940 --> 215:00.960] final words and the mark was able to get a meal finally This was delicious Shout out to Marc for eatin', man This talkin' shit is hard

— [215:00.960 --> 215:10.240] to do without a meal. It's really hard doing it without the water. Don't reach for the award. Don't reach for the award, yo. Today's the last day, right? No.

— [215:10.660 --> 215:18.660] It's the last 10 days which is the most important days. Ramadan will be here until the most slums. You get all the blessings in the last 10 days. Pray all night. Yo, we

— [215:18.660 --> 215:26.700] can't hear. We can't, we should change, yo. No, you can hear it. Patronis, this has been a great night. We love you. We love y'all, man.

— [215:26.740 --> 215:34.740] Patronis. Patronis. Y'all hold it down, man. Enjoy yourselves. Hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to

— [215:34.740 --> 215:43.720] you. Until next time, y'all hold it down. Don't forget. Peace. Spitters or quitters. Stay straight. Spitters

— [215:43.780 --> 215:51.780] or quitters. That was real like, wet. Yeah, you listening to my wetness

— [215:51.780 --> 215:53.800] in my lips? Yeah. Goodbye!

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