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0:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it 0:08 is not serious. It is not real. No 1 is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you 0:16 anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best 0:24 interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. You ain't say nothing. Turn it. Go ahead, we on. Put your hands. Put your 0:32 hands, what's happening? Put your hands. It's fine. Yo, man, I'm about to fuck ice up. Let him have it, man. Nigga, bitch, salutes, man. We got the baby 0:40 in here, right? No, that's not it. Go ahead. That ain't how that go. You want the intro, man? We got to give the guests the proper intro. Yeah, yeah, hold up, man. Hold up, man. So I can get you all about the setting up this week. 0:48 We spent a lot of time trying to get the dates lined up right. We spent a lot of time 0:57 trying to make sure schedules aligned. Sometimes you could tell when a guest, they album dropped 1:05 and they make and they run but you could tell Through the communication that it means something to them to stop by I felt like that I felt like that 1:13 with the baby. I felt like that with Chris Green Make some noise ladies and gentlemen, North Carolina's own, The Baby and the Smartfuck. 1:22 Woo! Let's go! Yes sir, yes sir, yes sir. How you feeling? Thanks y'all, have me blessed man. We honored to have you. I'm feeling grateful, be more grateful to the album. I'm feeling grateful, 1:30 like you said, it was very important for me to come, you know, sit down in this chair and get on this platform amongst a lot of them, you know what I mean? I'm like, that's 1 I gotta get 1:38 to. It felt like that. I could tell that. I was telling these niggas for mad long that you was coming up here. I kept looking like a liar. I didn't hold you. 1:46 Like, yo, we got the baby next week. But that's why I don't tease when artists come up here because you never know when niggas will get on some shit. And then the fans be like, I thought this 1:54 nigga said somebody was coming up there. I'm even talking about with us. Like you'd be like, yo, the baby's supposed to be coming next week. Then No, when you said this week, I'm like that nigga ain't coming. 2:02 Nah, nah. It's good to know though, certain people you gotta really prep for and make sure that you have your questions ready and shit. You don't wanna get no lackluster 2:11 performance as far as- Listen, I got, oh man, I have so much to fucking ask you, buddy. Let's catch up, bro. I got a lot to ask you and I've been impressed with the run you've 2:19 been on. I loved you and bank I absolutely loved you and banks out the bank Most importantly for me. I want to start out with do 2:27 you know the rules of Louis Vuitton? You 2:38 can't do that shit in there. You just. I ain't got nothing. The only thing I did was outside of the store. Ah. Point. No, that's a 2:46 good point. You did follow him out of there and beat the poor guy up. Louis Vuitton talked to me bad when I pull a camera phone out of them niggas 2:55 be like, bop bop bop bop bop bop. This thing. They ain't let me shop enough for a good year Maybe. No. They still allow you in that 3:03 fucking. But that Louis Vuitton store, that's when we was getting all the back burner shit anyway. So, but now we didn't, that mall done turned all the way up now, so 3:11 it's good that they welcome you with open arms. It's all good. They welcome you when you got the right amount of money. Come on man. That's it. But that's 1 of them stores where they don't give a fuck 3:19 how much money you got, you know, they, Louis will get money, Louis is Louis, you know what I'm saying, so. Nah, I ain't like that when they did have a little temporary, 3:28 you know, ban on me or Whatever, but they let me back in the door. Do we know what that gentleman is up to nowadays? Yeah, he's 3:36 no longer with us. He's Yeah Baby 4:00 I didn't know that for real. No, I didn't know. I wasn't set up for none of that. But I expected this nigga to say something like that. 4:09 Say it and mean it. All right, I'm ice on because Mona, Mona, I'm ice on for my girl Mona. What's 4:17 up Mona? How are you? She be ready to go home. Yo, what's up? What's up? She ain't going home. Don't get scary now. Yo, don't get scary 4:26 now. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. I'm not no bitch. It was like, hey, you know, we got a lot of people you want to roll, but the baby come up here, and 4:34 I was like, whoa, wait a minute, the baby. And I noticed, me and a couple other big ass bitches noticed there's a lot of big bitches in the last video. What was the dance you did when 4:42 you heard that? That's Hey, Eat Me Duh. Oh! I didn't do no dance, but I will say, you know a lot of us big bitches like 4:50 the FooPie owners. You is not no big bitch. I mean I own a FooPie, you know what I mean? So a lot of us FooPie owners was like, damn, you know what type of bitches he into? Cause 4:58 it's all these FooPie bitches in the video. I ain't got no type. So all y'all shut the fuck up, I'm all right. I've never seen the nigga blush. Yo, 5:07 she's busting it. Yo, y'all, that nigga's stuck. Bitch, bro, she wiping the shit. Y'all, y'all, y'all teasing. Go 5:16 ahead. That n***a stoned you, yo! How you get a value? Mark segue us somebody! I've 5:24 never seen this before. Yo! Oh my God. Mona, have some, have some coots. Have 5:32 some class, why don't you? Yo, that is crazy. That n***a said I can tell no type. This n***a got a comb in there. 5:41 My posture better. Cool You look good today, too Comedians 5:51 like I know game Thank you. I appreciate that. Can y'all shut the fuck up? Nah. Comedians ain't got no game. Word. Comedians is actually bad. I never told y'all I had games. They laugh you 5:59 out your jaws. Yeah, that's what it is. It's real. It's real. Flip 6:08 just said that on the main, that that's how he gets, that's how he get the coochie from telling jokes. That's definitely his game. That's part of his game. Yeah, yeah. 6:17 Laugh in the mouth that draws back in your day back in your way Way way back in the day the album is out Be 6:26 more grateful each of us in this room have so much to be grateful for yes true indeed How 6:36 do I ask this man It sound like on the album it sound like your nose somebody had your nose in the air. 6:45 It sound like it sound like you met a young lady. It Sound like you met a young lady. It had you open. Sound like you met a young lady, had whatever the experience was, 6:53 and this person may or may not have been the muse. And like that's 1 of the first things I said when I was now like 7:02 a love a little bit Somebody left an impression on you. That's what it's a lot of fucking going 7:11 on every hour Yeah, for sure, but this was I let her have a good time. Love fucking, love making. 7:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like somebody else is going on in the world. I can receive that. You sung over Jodeci, nigga. That 1 right 7:27 there. You sung over Jodeci. So that record in particular, right, it's a few more. A lot of them songs, especially that 1, 7:35 I had that 1 in like 20, what is it, we were in 2026, I had that record like 2022. It's like niggas at the label, you 7:44 probably know him, What's my boy name? Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn. Amir. You know Amir? Yeah, who was with Interscope. He ain't with Interscope 7:52 no more, but I remember when I put the snippet of it out, like this on the album too, when I was rolling the album out or whatever, he in the comments like, you gonna wait till I leave the building, 8:00 nigga, to drop my favorite song or whatever, but a lot of them songs I already had them in. I done put out, just being honest, I done put out a lot of bullshit 8:09 in between the time where I've been sitting on real records. You know what I mean? So, I ain't dropped the album in 4 years, 8:17 so it's a lot of experiences, real life experiences. Other songs is me just making good music. I always cater 8:25 to the female audience. That's always been, that's who I cater to off the rip. I target at the female audience, off the rip, through 8:33 the door, You know what I'm saying? The niggas gonna go where the ladies go at the end of the day. You know? But more importantly, with this album, I just wanted to make sure I checked 8:41 all the boxes, you know what I'm saying? From the lyricism and shit, make sure I tapped into that, put that on full display. Definitely, definitely 8:50 knew it was super important for me to reestablish, you know what I'm saying? Like the fact that I do make music for the ladies. I definitely 8:58 wanted to reconnect with my ladies and make music for the ladies. Did it work? I look cool but not definitely. 9:06 So now I actually you know I appreciate that perspective on it because I definitely wanted to make sure I targeted the ladies on there 9:15 but still wanted to check all the other boxes, the lyricism, then the turn up records. The record going the craziest right now, the pop that thing. That's the last song 9:23 I did. You know what I'm saying? So I just did that song in January and put the album right out like 2 weeks later. So you know, I wanted to check all boxes, 9:31 but definitely target my core audience, which I feel like, yeah drop that shit. Drop that shit just go on. I feel like it's the females and that's why you got a record like 9:39 this. And see when I talk over it I sound like a fucking DJ. Yeah. Go ahead, boy. Let's go. Let's go. Hey. Come on. 9:47 Let's go. Come on. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. 9:55 Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I ain't getting sick, but I'll be more brave than I am. Nah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Where is this going the craziest at, right now, for you? Like, when you touch down, where you feel it at 10:03 the most? Outside of home. Miami. This feels like Miami. Yeah, naturally, naturally, naturally. But see, that's 10:12 why, you know, when I, really like, what, like 2 weeks before The album came out, I just cold turkey like, flew 5 of my camera man into 10:20 Miami. They ain't know what we was going for, I'm like, I'll just get out of here, we going to Miami. And I just focused on just vertical content, I just wanted to get back 10:28 to just the guerrilla style marketing, the shit that really got me through the door, like what I know how to do best, and not none of the other shit, you know what I'm saying? Like I didn't want to do press 10:36 before the album. I ain't want to do none of the, you know, I ain't want to do no gimmicky shit, no none of that. I just wanted to be able to consistently push 10:45 the music in front of the people and shit and it connected like it was a masterclass on how to roll out a project. I'm pretty sure like, 10:54 you know, my strategy for how I rolled out this song in particular and this album, I know for a fact it's on the vision board at all these labels right now 11:02 because I'm seeing other niggas, I'm seeing them do it. The vertical content where they got it locked on on the tripod and you know I'm into the production side of shit, they got it locked on to 11:10 the tripod, they got the lighting the same exact way, they doing jump cuts and They trying to do the same exact shit like I'm seeing it immediately 11:18 because it was a master class on how to roll out a song. You know what I'm saying? And the project all together, I went from not dropping shit for 11:26 3, 4 years, you know what I'm saying? Maybe 2, 3 songs a year to debuting a single on the Billboard. You know what I'm saying? So more than anything, it 11:34 was just reassurance that okay, the way I know how to market, it's still, you know what I'm saying? That shit work. 11:42 And you came in with that. Exactly. When did you learn that you had that shit really off the rip? Like I always been like hands on 11:50 with, you know, the visuals and just, I don't know. I took the same hustle I had from what 11:58 I'm doing in the streets, brought it straight over into the music like immediately. When you watched other artists, including some of these big artists who come back after 3 or 4 12:06 years and aren't hitting the charts, what were they doing wrong? What are they missing? I can't call it, man. I really can only speak for myself when 12:15 it come to that. Maybe like, you know, and I can say this, you know, from experience, because I done been guilty of the same thing, but just not applying themselves, 12:23 not moving as hungry as they once was at 1 particular point. But I'm hungry than a motherfucker, like I ain't. You think they're just leaving 12:31 it to the label to make the- That too, you know what I'm saying? But that was never my recipe, you know what I'm saying? Like I always did the damn thing and the label, okay they do what they 12:39 do after, throw gas on them or just put me in the places I need to be in and do what I do best already on my own, but I always, 12:48 you know, invested in myself, I always paid for my shit first. I ain't never go to get budgets approved for none of that. I jump out there. A lot of my, all 12:56 that shit, like my year, my breakout year in 2019, like All them videos, they seen it when y'all saw it. They seen it when the consumers saw it. Like they'll wake up and see, Suge, 13:04 they woke up and saw that shit on YouTube. Like, holy shit. And it had to, it had to, got them come behind it and do what they wanted to do. Everything, every last 1 of them songs, you 13:12 know what I'm saying? I didn't, the label ain't pay for 1 of my videos until I was the top streaming artist in the world. I think the first video they paid for was Rockstar. I ain't gonna lie, 13:20 them niggas, I just- I wasn't even asking for that shit. I ain't even kept, because you gotta do it their way when they pace when you do it their 13:28 way. You get what I'm saying? I'm like, nah, hell nah. I'm real big on, I feel the shit out and go with it, you know what I mean? Like I like to just 13:36 go with my move, you know, I don't like spacing it out like I like boom boom boom I'm ready to drop again, but I understand, you know, the business 13:44 enough now to know okay don't step on my own toes when you got a hit record, you see what I'm saying? But as you can see, I led with 23 songs on this album. 13:53 I ain't never, I would argue a motherfucker to death, you know what I'm saying, about putting that many songs on the project. I really like 12, 14 14:02 tops, 14 if I already had 2 of them out before the project, that type shit, because I know motherfuckers attention span, it ain't there, but it's just the fact 14:10 that I ain't really, I know for a fact I ain't applied myself the way I can in so long to skip the bullshit. Because I like, okay, when I 14:18 put out Shake something, right? Like, and I seen, I seen when y'all, when y'all talked about that song when I dropped it, you know what I mean? When I put 14:26 out that record, the plan, that year, when I came to them and we put the plan together, because I'm trying to play ball, I'm trying to do it with the building. And it was like, 14:34 all right, we're going to put out 3 track EPs back to the 1, I said I want to do it once a month for the rest of the year. And they like bet. The 14:42 very first 1 I did, it was 3 songs on an EP, but Shake Something was on there. I already knew, like I know what the records is gonna do, okay cool, but 14:50 like my audience is conditioned to receive high volumes of music and receive it consistently. Like in my biggest years, 14:58 like when I'm successful, I had songs everywhere. I never just had 1 record going like I always had several records going and then all of the features or whatever so 15:07 when Shake something took off the way it took off they like no no no no wait wait wait we just got to push this but that ain't my style of doing shit. Luckily it's a high energy record I can 15:15 go crazy with it but I always could take motherfuckers on a roller coaster When they come to you know performing live or whatever because I got so many different 15:23 types of records I play sugar and I play Nasty the 1 with a shot I could play so many different records and take people here there there there 15:31 you know what I'm saying? So you know that type shit it kind of it keep me from applying myself cuz I'm not a You know for lack of a better term 15:39 like what they call them Like an industry plant type of artist to where it's like, you know Ain't Nobody ever tell me what to do. They ain't find me 15:47 and say, oh, this guy's super talented. He got potential. Do this like this, dress like this, do this like that. I was fucking on the cover of XXL Magazine 15:56 with flip-flops and goddamn Nike hoodie. Like, I used to touch down in these cities and go to Footlocker, go get a Nike Tech and some white 16:04 forces every city. Like I didn't give a fuck and was the biggest, hottest thing and damn near a sex symbol to the ladies. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, 16:12 but I wasn't, you go back and look like, you know, it wasn't, I always, I got the way I got to by just, you know, just being myself, you know 16:20 what I'm saying? So when they come to it and you know, and you try new things, I ain't, you know, I ain't never, we know I ain't afraid to try new things at the end 16:28 of the day, but As long as I could be consistent in what I'm doing, I could be my best self, and that's why I put out 23 songs on this shit. So it ain't 16:37 no 1 stay out, okay, now I can do whatever the fuck I want to do, I ain't gotta wait. 23 songs, but I feel like you did a real good job with just paying attention to 16:45 the length of- Yeah, it's not long, don't drag it. Yeah, yeah, it's still in and out, it's still an hour flat, I think. No, it's a smooth listen. 16:54 And he still took care of, like, I'm a fan of your music for the lyrics inside. Gotcha. So it was music up there for me. And then for the ones 17:02 who want the girl records, it's music up there for them. Anybody that could cover all the basses, I'm cool with. Obviously, I definitely want to shake all the basses. It don't feel like it's not what I 17:10 want to hear. I feel like Shake Something was a real important record for you. Definitely. Definitely. Like, I know you say you don't like to ever focus on 17:18 just 1 record. Mm-hmm But to know that record was coming 1 I want to know how you felt when you heard that beat cuz that beat sounds sick then when you 17:26 finish the song Okay, that sounds sick now this I'm coming back out with this first after all that shit that just happened. 17:34 Right. Like, did you know how important that was? Did you know what that would look like? Because I came to Summer Jam when 17:42 you was there. And I had no idea. They didn't promote that you was gonna be there. Actually, they flex-ported you out. So I got to kind of see what 17:50 them Long Island hoes was doing. Them hoes, they so horny out there. Them motherfuckers, they trying to snatch 17:59 your clothes off. Your live performance, that's just strong, Sue, how you perform on stage. When you first came out, I remember that vividly, seeing you perform live, not 18:07 knowing who you are, seeing all the energy and thinking, damn, who this? And that makes me want to listen. You gotta think that's what I was stripped of, the ability 18:15 to do that. Right, exactly. So that's what had me, like, you know, in a place where it's all the other shit, it just happened. The viral moments and shit, that 18:24 shit just happens. Just me just being me. I don't gotta manufacture them. I know how to, don't get me wrong. I definitely know how to, but 18:32 since coming in, I ain't had to. I stay in the blogs and just on, I stay covered by different platforms, just 18:41 by, just spare the moment shit, it just happened the way it happened and I deal with it the way I deal with it, but that's what was stripped away from me so a record 18:49 like that was super important to answer your question because I get to come do what I do you know what I'm saying is I remember you when you when 18:57 you covered you know what I'm saying just the release of the record and you just explaining like how the atmosphere was in the building when I performed. The whole church, 19:05 first of all, shout out to my nigga Charlie Heat. He from Jersey, the producer of that. You know what I'm saying, Charlie Heat, yeah. He from Jersey. He 19:14 played the record. I ain't have to hear it for he playing through them. We was we was locked in at the time We was doing all type of records and he 19:22 played that when I oh Whoa, whoa, because we skimped the rock skim through records when it catch me. I load it You know I'm saying and I stopped myself 19:30 over at well told him load it did that shit quick. Maybe like I Only think it's a 10 minutes. I did this shit quick, but I knew immediately 19:38 what time it was. As soon as I got there. The music industry as a whole was so scared of Jersey house music. I'm telling you, nah, that did it. Like, and that really was like the 19:46 hybrid of, you know what I'm saying, Jersey Club, but not, like, I ain't never seen your ass shaking at Jersey Club music into 19:54 that 1, you know what I'm saying? Like, maybe it's, I mean, it's, that's a lie. Don't be foolish. Don't be foolish. That's a lie. Don't be foolish. He's a guest, 20:03 you don't be foolish. Don't be ridiculous. He's fucking wrong. Don't G-check me, Jersey. Y'all probably been checking that. But 20:12 I'm talking about like Jersey Club music to make the world shake their ass. Like that's the Jersey thing. You get what I'm saying? So it's like, 20:20 you know, it's a lot of motherfuckers that didn't know what that genre was. If you go to the South, they not knowing that's Jersey Club. You know what I'm saying? So, and not only that, I feel 20:29 like, like the Jersey Club component to it, like it makes it the way you can do more than shake ass to it. And I was real big on really 20:37 like painting that picture with the video. So, you know, to answer your question, like if I knew how important a record like that was to my career at 20:45 the time, 1000 percent, that's why the video looked the way it looked. I got all different types of people in it, you know what I'm saying? Male, female, 20:54 white people, black people, this, that. I focused on dancers, that's why I spent what I spent, you know what I'm saying, on the video. What'd you spend? That 21:03 1 was about, in the video where You see all them dancers and shit that 1 was about 250 And we talking in 2022 niggas ain't spinning it. No, 21:11 we back niggas ain't spending But you know them back in the day, you know, Nicki Minaj budgets 21:19 and you know, these type of artists like, that's, you know, what, what, what you call them? A-list celebrity 21:27 budgets, you get what I'm saying? The terms. It's interesting that you say that. Like from the outside looking in, before Shake Something, I felt like, 21:35 and I know Chris Green is over there, don't jump over here, nigga, I'm just gonna talk. I felt like the label had backed 21:43 up with support. 1000%. It looked like that to me. And it looked like when shake something came. Oh you can't now There's 21:52 nothing you could do can't run from you Yeah, talk talk about some fucking resilience 22:01 Even though I heard you on bank talk about that moment, the shit, I ain't going to bring it up, but I heard you on bank talking about it. Yeah. And you was like, I don't have no regrets. 22:10 I don't believe that. Yeah, me either. Sound good. I was just writing my mom fucking mouth. Me on the book. You got it. So saying, yeah. The bank don't believe it either. Yeah, yeah, I watched it back, like, man, 22:18 what the fuck you do, nigga? What the fuck you talking about? I 22:28 would have been landing my fucking helicopter right at Joe's head. Oh, God, yes, yes. That's funny. Because you're kind of the last star. Come 22:38 on, now. To me, you're kind of the last nigga With a hit. I ain't seen this since. Like that kinda hit. Yeah, when you know what a 22:46 hit now, who knows what a fucking hit is. But you kinda was the last 1. So tell me how it felt to recognize that, 22:54 okay, the label may be moving differently or treating me differently. And I got to go put my fucking cards on and get back to it, 23:02 get back to my organic, my marketing. I gotta do something to make them have no choice. Talk to me about the mind state. For sure, I mean it was frustrating at 23:10 first. You know it was frustrating, cause at the end of the day, I never, I ain't your typical artist in terms of like, 23:19 I look to the label to do anything anyways, I come with it. So more than anything, like I felt like even when I was ready to come with it, 23:28 nah, nah, nah, right now, we ain't moving right now. So it's like, you ever been in a fight 23:36 and got them, somebody grab you, but the nigga you fight still hit you? That's what that shit felt like. That's what that shit felt like. So 23:44 if you fighting the security come grab you by your arms, but they let nothing. This nigga still swinging, nigga, get the fuck off me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me defend myself, 23:52 not even let me fight back, but let me defend myself, you see what I'm saying? That's what it was, it's like my hands was tied, and I don't like having my 24:01 hands tied. So it's different, That may feel, other people may take that differently than I take it, but it's like, I don't like having my hands tied. I don't look for 24:09 nobody to, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna go every time by myself, regardless. So to have my hands tied, 24:18 and it ain't like, ain't nobody, can't nobody go for me, and I'm not even being allowed to, you know what I'm saying, 24:26 to handle this shit myself. Yeah, it's frustrating, you know what I'm saying, what can you do? You know, you gotta learn your lesson, you gotta take your fucking lick, that's what I had to do, you know what I'm saying. 24:34 So, that's cool, But you know, even after the fact, it's a uphill battle. You know what I'm saying? And you know, where I'm at right now, 24:43 I'm over it and now it's okay, let's do it. So when you go through that moment, it's clear as day you 24:51 on your own. It's a long ass moment, it ain't as long as a moment. It's still going on. 1 of his ass in the van. Let's call that bitch an era. It was on his ass. What I want to speak to is, now you done 25:00 got somewhat through the moment and you now building back up to what the fuck is supposed to be. And some of them people that might have went ahead and turned their back and then 25:08 got quiet in the industry, now they want to come back around and start championing. You know how that goes, human nature. How do you even handle approach that? Do you kind of just push it 25:16 to the side or do you just play a game? Like fuck it, I see it for what it is. Yeah, I mean, I mean look, like, let's say we, 25:24 let's say we ain't even talking about that situation, that situation never happened. Like that's, that's regular shit anyway. You feel me? That's part of any game. So, 25:33 you know, me knowing that, like me knowing that through life experiences period, right before the end, like I already, I know what that type of shit is. I see it for what 25:41 it's for. And at the end of the day, that's why I isolated away from this situation, right? Everybody, self-preservation, that's the 25:49 law of the land, that's universal, you see what I'm saying? So everybody playing their own game anyway, you know what I'm saying? Everybody got, you know, they fucking with you for what they can 25:57 gain and vice versa, you get what I'm saying? You just got to make sure it's vice versa. You got to recognize what it is and, you know, and just move forward with 26:05 the wisdom you can gain from the journey and the experience that you've been through, and then okay, now you know how to think, instead of twice, think 3 or 4 26:13 times, with decisions and who you decide to fuck with and who you give that type of access to you. You know what I'm saying? Your thoughts, your ideas and all that shit. 26:21 You know what I mean? And that's all it is. Like I don't, you know, end of the day, like I hold myself accountable, 1000%. You see what I'm saying? And that's 26:29 the difference between, okay, where I was early on and where it took me a second, a good long second, I'm gonna 26:37 say an hour, you know what I'm saying? But we still, where it took me a good hour, 1000 hours, you know what I'm saying, to get to a point where 26:45 I'm holding myself 1000 percent accountable. You know what I'm saying? For my actions, you feel me? And you know, cause until you get to doing that, man, you out here beating a dead 26:53 horse. Like you, you boy shitting, you know what I'm saying? Playing in your ass is what they'll say. Around my way, you know what I mean? But, But yeah, you know, so. 27:02 Question for you. How old are you now? I'm 34. I'm a grown ass man. So that was around 30. OG. That was about 30. No, 27:11 2020 is 2026. I was about 29, 28. I was a grown ass man. Hey, 34 is OG. We can't call it. You was a young. No, no, no, I was asking, 27:19 because I know where you were then, you was, yeah, rock star, right? Yeah. Did you think you were too big at that point for them to do what they did? That 27:27 I think I was too, I think how big I was was the reason why that shit went the way it went, you know what I'm saying? I wasn't aware, not even I wasn't, 27:35 I mean I knew, you know what I'm saying, what it was, but not knowing okay, like, you know what, come with that shit. And really like, me and my situation, 27:43 like I'm like the poster child for like council coaching. You get what I'm saying? Like I would look at it like that. Now this shit been happening, but like the way it happened with me, 27:52 I don't, you know, that's something, that's something that, you know, anybody that come after me or anybody that was in the business at the same time, they should look at that and learn from that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? You don't understand 28:00 the power of your voice at that point? Absolutely not. I understood the power of my voice, don't get me wrong, but like the fact that it come with, yeah, you know, cause my voice 28:08 got the way it got to by me being unapologetically me, by me just being myself. I didn't get there by, you know, the labels saying talk like this, to act like this, 28:16 to do this, to do that. I always been, I'd been on the cover of all these magazines. I was a household name. I'm performing at 28:24 the Grammys, this and that. I've been me the whole time. They, and it was okay, because it worked. So they was okay with it. I didn't get no, 28:33 you know what I'm saying, no pushback on it, of course. Like, you know, they suggested that I would try these types of things, do these types of things, this and that, but I was, 28:41 I'm always like, nah. And if it would've worked, they would've been with it. Yeah, and they would've worked. If it would've worked, they would've been with it. You know what I'm saying, it would've worked, it worked. But I see the whole poster child thing because 28:49 the response, you know what I mean? It was layer-wide, it went down like that. You know what I mean? But it's easy in hindsight to see it. You're a brave guy, you're known 28:57 for your bravery, even when certain things happen that's not necessarily supposed to happen. When we find out about it, you always look like the 1 that's not a bitch. So it's like, 29:06 I see why you responded the way you did and everything, but it is a learning thing, and I hope that artists do look at that and think, you know what I mean? Because that's the best way. I 29:14 hope they do too, because boy listen. They better, guys, damn. Everybody can recover. Everybody can recover. Boy listen, they better. You know what I mean? 98% 29:22 of niggas ain't gonna be able to thug that out, but yeah, definitely. It is what it is, you know what I mean? It come with 29:30 the territory. And me, like, where I come from, like, I expect hiccups in any situation 29:39 that goes the way. You know what I'm saying? This is on the trajectory my career was on. Like, I don't, you know, I expect something. I expect 29:47 the drop somewhere. I expect the loss. I expect this. I expect that. That's just what I'm on period. But aside from the career, I haven't 29:55 been through so much on a personal level. You know what I'm saying? Outside of the artist period. That's another thing when it came to the situation. The 30:05 way that I interpreted it off the rip, I'm not looking at it the way the world looks at it, the way the business is looking at it. Yeah, because of 30:13 the type of shit that I'm going through in real life. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yeah, like, hindsight is, that's the word of 30:21 the motherfuckin' day when we're talking about that situation, because it take hindsight to really understand like what's going on. I could have just shut the fuck up off the rip, 30:29 you know what I'm saying? It's not even really the situation, and it self did, That wasn't even the haymaker in the situation. It's things that I said and the way 30:37 I responded to it when I didn't have to respond at all. You get what I'm saying? I could've just shut the fuck up like these niggas do disappeared and popped back up 30:45 with another 1 out. You know what I'm saying? Like it's a fact. And I done learned, you know what I'm saying, I done learned. All they publicists write some beautiful 30:53 shit pulled on Instagram. Yeah, but I never, my publicists never handle none of my situations, and that's what I'm saying too, I always did 31:01 all that shit, So I, bruh, I understand. It's not authentic to who you are. Yeah, but it ain't even that. It ain't even, I just 31:09 be on it. I just be on top of it. It don't be no ego thing. It don't be none of that. This really more so 31:18 some intellectual shit more than it is, some gangster shit like when it come to you know the way that I've always been able to just navigate through you know 31:26 what I'm saying like controversy you know what I mean like. There's a piece of this. Oh wait can I jump in real quick? Because he said hindsight. In 31:36 hindsight. Yeah. Because we've seen enough videos to know that you got some scrap 31:44 in you. So when the nigga hop over the fence at your house, I wanted to ask this for 5, I'm getting my questions. 31:54 For real, when the nigga hopped over your gate, I came on the air and was like, yo, you could have just ran over there and beat 32:03 him up, said, so hey nigga, but to just start shooting from wherever you shot from. I shot from close range. But 32:12 why? Like, get closer. Why? Get off my property, nigga. But why is that necessary? I'm about the distance where me and you at. 32:20 Oh. See, I understand. You from New York. Yeah. I'm from North Carolina, Joe. Oh. No. Yeah, bro. It's different, yo. You know what 32:28 these people going to do to you is different. It's different, yo. You come down there. And then you said he was a fan. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So if you 32:36 a fan of me, if you a fan, if you listen to my music, right? You should know better. They go to the coach and you should know better. That's the last year you gonna climb the shit 32:44 table. The last house. My business, hide behind a wall at my crib. That ain't smart. He couldn't have been a van I really support 32:52 this shit Cuz I gun laws cuz I gun laws are so different 33:01 when you go to PA you go to Georgia you go to Florida you go Down there south them niggas grow up shooting squirrels And you come on my property dogs, 33:10 you are violating my rights. You know issue South Carolina. Yeah, 14 years old. And can shoot a fucking. Got it on that hip. Yes, 33:19 bro. You walking around the yard on the 4 wheeler. They kids will do that, but it ain't even, I mean more than anything, like you know down there, like you got the right to like, you know Protect your 33:27 property or whatever and me I got All the more reason why Like if a nigga jumps my fence and got on a black hoodie and is hiding behind the wall I ain't managing. 33:35 Yeah, trust me that nigga to this day I don't think you want to autograph him and talk to him. The upper room nigga. He's like he's gonna say I'm just 33:44 He he knows Made bad decisions That I was supposed to kill him You gonna shake something? I was supposed to kill him and drop an 33:52 album the next day. I could have. I could have. But I ain't do that. You know what I'm saying? I ain't feel like it was necessary. So 34:01 just a gunshot wound to the ass, man, that's a... That's a blessing. That was kind. Hey, be grateful. That's a look out. That's a look out. I 34:09 looked you out. I looked you out right there. I'm going to talk to y'all about this 1. Y'all got to come down and do 34:18 a pot in the south 1 time I would love to homeboy I follow some nigga on Instagram to be cooking all the fly shit in his yard 500 chicken wings And 34:28 I want to come out there Yeah, he from Columbia. What part of North Carolina Charlotte you from shop? Yeah, that's what I wanted 34:36 to ask because I spent some time in Charlotte, right? When I first got out there, you was the only thing buzzing, but I do know that the city 34:44 itself got a lot of fucking talent. Do you ever feel any pressure to be the representation for that city? Because for me, outside of J.Cole, 34:53 you are the representation. What's that pressure? I done represented, oh my God. I done represented for the state as a whole, you know what I'm saying? The best you possibly 35:01 can, to the top streaming artists in the world. So, nah, pressure to represent for them, not at all, you know what I mean? They should feel more pressure to 35:09 follow up and go above and beyond, you know what I'm saying? But nah, ain't no pressure in terms of, because I didn't already did it as big as you could do it though. 35:18 You hype about these hornets nigga? Yeah come on you been seeing me at the games putting on? I be out there having a bottle of Spiky. That's another security guard that's had enough of you. Yeah, Uncee. 35:26 She had enough. That's another 1 that's had enough of your antics. I'm starting to think she just like coming to get my videos and being on camera. I said it to myself at the last, I'm like, 35:34 you, you're doing a lot of extra bothering me today, like, you know, cause I be being respectful to her. Like I don't, I don't be tripping, but she about pitched a nerve 35:43 last time. I'm like, why you, why you coming to talk to me right now, Auntie, we up 30. We was only up by 2 points when I walked in 35:51 here. We went up 30. Soon as I heard somebody saying, let's go eat, and I got on their ass. We went up 30, I'm telling you. But I'm like, hey man, watch out, 35:59 Auntie. Don't Leave me alone. Go over there. Did you see everybody from Charlotte coming out to talk about how 36:07 they've seen LaMelo's truck driving like that before? He got to protect himself, man. You know what I'm saying? First of all, kids, 36:15 wear your seatbelt. This is the camera. First of all, kids, wear your seatbelt. You get what I'm saying? Another thing, too, just for the people from the outside looking at 36:23 it, right? Who don't got. Let me go there. The people who be PSAs with the band. So, secondly, for the people who may not understand, like 36:31 even you, right? Like when you leave here, we gotta leave a different way than the average person leaves. We gotta look over our shoulder, we gotta make sure nobody following us. 36:39 We gotta make sure, you know what I'm saying? He has to go park in the same spot every single night. Like he has to, People know exactly where the players are. They wait 36:47 right outside. All you gotta do is just sit right there where they come about the ramp at. So when he leave he has to leave a certain way to make sure he get home safe to his family you know 36:55 I'm saying and he's able to still come and use his God-given talents to Bring you know good basketball to the fans and and you know I'm saying that's 37:04 good. Come on. I told you I do my own It's what I'm telling you so now 37:12 he you know he got a dry like that You know I'm saying he got a dry like that at the end of the day, you know, but he I'm pretty sure he's being way more careful than he 37:20 was before No, 37:29 I got a question hold up yeah on message to my YNs. Yeah, letter to my YNs. Letter to my YNs, sorry. 37:38 It's all good. Like, I listen to it and you're giving good street nigga advice. Street 37:49 nigga advice? No, it is. Street nigga jokes too. Right, no, He gave a good street nigga advice, but I ain't a street nigga. So when I'm 37:57 listening to it, I'm saying, which I say up here all the time too, Like, wouldn't it be easier to just tell these niggas 38:05 to not do none of that shit? That's what I did. No, the fuck you did. No, the fuck you did. You said, man, yo, when them niggas give you the money, 38:14 make sure it's all there. It's a bunch of street nigger rules. I mean, but I still gotta get game to the people who see a lot of us like a victim of circumstance, you know what I'm saying? 38:22 And environment like. Hang on, don't. I can't leave the niggas out this already in. So all the people that are already 38:30 in the situation, like you would tell the people to avoid it. You know what I'm saying? Like the people who ain't been in it, which they should be avoiding it anyways. They definitely need to stay away 38:38 from it if they got a choice and that's what they leaning towards. But you gotta listen, at the very end of the song, I'm talking, I say, just Go play you some sports or something. Go 38:46 be cool. Go do this. I did you know All in all like I don't 38:55 I don't condone, you know, like super street shit man I don't I'm not I'm not into none of that. You know I'm saying I'm just a stand-up guy at the end of the day. Like 39:03 I'm not, I ain't never been no super gangster, no none of that. You know what I mean? I'm just a man. Joe, why do you keep feeling like that? You feel like everybody got 39:11 a choice? Do I feel, that's a good question. Say that again. Do I feel like everyone? Because when you actually understand why you're saying that, but when he's saying, like honestly, there 39:20 are niggas who have a choice and have options, but we also come from a place where we know a bunch of people that really don't have a choice. They're victims of circumstance. We've seen 39:28 it. Victims of circumstance. So when you're saying that to him, like yo, nigga, you're saying a message, but it's going contrary. I don't know how much I subscribe to that that's what I'm saying that's what I'm asking me 39:36 see you Republican shit yeah I don't think that's Republican shit I don't think I'm playing but okay I just think in 39:46 hip-hop especially and we know hip hip hop was birthed it came from us the streets We have too many 39:54 examples of niggas that were never supposed to make it out. Most of us were supposed to be dead by 1821. All 40:02 of us got a story where we should have been killed. So when you say, do I think that there are people that don't have a choice? Yeah, I do. Sure I do. I'm sure 40:10 that exists. I'm sure that exists somewhere. I think that said way more than the examples. 40:19 I see it back to Jay-Z performing back to back nights at fucking- Yankee Stadium. Yankee Stadium as fucking Jay-Z. That's Jay-Z put Barclays over 40:27 there as fucking Jay-Z. If I start going down the list of shit and niggas, it's like, I don't know about subscribers. Yo, but that's an amazing example, my bad E. That's 40:35 an amazing example. That nigga's a walking testament to luck. He tells you mad times, if this small 40:43 thing don't go this exact way, I might never seen no Yankee Stadium. Yeah, but I believe in part of being good as being lucky. True, but I'm saying, but 40:51 you can still have to accept that sometimes we are a victim of circumstance. There's a lot of people growing up, especially in 41:00 our demographic, that necessarily didn't have the best options or choices and you just ran with the best choice at 13 or 14. But see, 41:08 that's where I wanted to jump in, right? Because I agree that some people got limited circumstances, limited choices. You know, I understand why people sell 41:16 drugs. I understand why people rob people, right? Because they got few choices. They ain't got the choices that some lucky or fortunate people have. I don't like the idea saying there's 41:24 no other option. Because if a white dude, a rich white dude, if Donald Trump tomorrow said, see that black kid there in Harlem, he's gonna sell 41:32 drugs, there's nothing else he could do. We'd all be offended. Because we will all say, that's racist to assume that this kid has no other possibility in his life 41:41 but to be a drug dealer. So I don't wanna say that either. I'm also not gonna be like Donald Trump and act like this kid 41:49 sold drugs for no reason. He sold drugs because his hand was forced. Our hands get forced. I'm just telling people when your hand get forced, you still 41:57 got options, even if they hard. So I'm only responding in that way based off of what the baby's saying he did in his record. So I think sometimes 42:06 the people who actually get out of those situations, you get out of it and then you start to forget or start to ignore and shun some of the people that are still in that space. So 42:14 yeah, there's a balance to saying, yo, listen, you have these options if you have it and you should probably even search for it if you can. But I also come from a place where I do 42:22 remember a lot of motherfuckers who don't have an option. And you saying Joe Button forgot where he came from. And I'm not saying you forget where you come from. But 42:32 your main point was that Joe forgot. I'm not saying he forgot. But Joe forgot basically. It's harder times. Joe forgot how 42:40 hard it was because he appeared in Pies. You know what I mean? He can't remember When he had to hit the wall. Thank you, Mola. So it's 42:49 for like, and if you go to it right in and you break it down, right, it's more so telling you the decisions to make 42:58 if you already is a victim in those circumstances, you get what I'm saying? Because it's like, yeah, if you sell drugs, you can sell drugs, but you should be selling drugs to 43:06 do what you need to do. And the goal should be to get the fuck out of it. You get what I'm saying? Don't play with the money, young niggas. Save up the money, young niggas. Watch the niggas and run. Like the shit 43:14 that I'm, the game I'm giving in the parts where I'm talking to the people who are in the shit, it's the... For a better day. And 43:23 you call it luck, right? But it ain't even that. It's just your decision making while you're doing what you're doing is going to determine whether or not 43:31 if your ass make it out of it or if you don't. You know what I'm saying? You got niggas who was doing the same thing, who done did a lot of the same shit I done did, but they doing life in 43:39 prison. You get what I'm saying? Or they dead, you know what I mean? All that shit is based on like small little details and decision making like in real 43:47 time. So it's more so that type of thing in terms of the record and you know what I'm saying. You know what I mean? You gotta just, I 43:55 ain't glorifying this shit but I'm saying if you in them circumstances, let me tell you how I survived it and how I made it out of it and was able to turn the leaf and 44:03 like that's what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like if I ain't keep a gun on me I'd have been shot dead. If I ain't do this, you know what I'm saying? If I ain't do this, if I 44:11 ain't do that, if I ain't watch the niggas around me I'd have been got set up. If I ain't do this, if I ain't do like it's, You know, it's layers to it. I said a lot too. It's a lot in it. 44:20 I just made the shit go to the beat and, you know what I'm saying? But it's a lot too and you know what I love about having my nephew like star 44:28 in a music video, like even while I'm sitting there like rapping to him while we're doing the music video, I'm sitting here looking at the nigga like, really like digesting 44:36 like what I'm saying. Like he been heard, he a fan of my music, but I'm sitting here seeing him like, really like listening to what I'm saying. And a lot of that shit, he ain't even had 44:44 the opportunity to go through that shit, you know what I'm saying? So, all in all, like I don't, you know, I do what I can, 44:52 you know what I'm saying? I ain't perfect, I ain't squeaky clean, but I do what I can with the music. So, that was definitely a record, like, that I'm proud 45:00 of in terms of the shit that I use my voice and say it on that song compared to what I tell you to do to a nigga in another song. You 45:10 know. Those songs on here too. Yeah, for sure. There's a few of them. When you think about your career, where it is now, where you want 45:18 it to be, What artists have a model for you? Like who do you look to be like, that's how I want my career to go from here forward. A 45:32 model, so somebody who'd probably been through some of the shit I've been through. Or you just say, I like. Or who ended up where you wanna be. Oh, it's a lot of them, you know what I'm saying? It's 45:40 a lot of them, but, I don't know, man. What's for me is for me, right? I'm this 45:48 type of person. I don't really, you know, I could easily just go to a couple niggas, this damn no worth 1000000000, and throw their name out there. So of 45:56 course I would wanna do that. But at the same time, our journeys ain't the same, and the way we do it, it ain't gonna be the same. Like me, more importantly than anything, like 46:04 as long as I got the ability to create freely, you get what I'm saying? And be myself, you know, I'm cool. Keep 46:13 them goddamn taxes paid, shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Keep shit solidified and right there 46:21 waiting on my kids and my nieces and my nephew. I'm straight. You know what I'm saying other than that. I'm already a walking miracle compared 46:29 to what I done came from. I don't really got no, I ain't chasing the type of shit that I probably would've been chasing, you know what I'm saying, like coming into 46:37 this shit, you know? I ain't chasing nothing in particular. I don't necessarily like got no. Like awards, money, you're not like I want the billion, I want these Grammys, I want the billion. Nah, I mean I got 46:45 the awards. I mean other than the Grammys I got I got every 1 of them bitches other than the Grammy You know what I'm saying? But even that like It's factors that come into play 46:54 with that type shit like I understand it. You know I'm saying like I understand it like I've been I'd have been in the business enough to understand politics is already 47:02 100% you know and and the shit they come with like I that ain't my strong suit politics ain't my strong What 47:15 would be your ideal shit? Like, it's kind of on the back of the question. Film, film, video. You need some guns? I want a gun, man. I'm going 47:23 to build 1 of them. I'm going to build 1 of them on my new property. I ain't going to have to go nowhere. From the South, Joe. You better be out here. Hey, these, 47:31 hey, these. Did you say film? If it ever go down, man, come to the South. Y'all niggas be there. You in the world? I don't know. We know what's happening to you. That's why I don't come to the action. 47:40 That's not true. I do go to the South, but to see my family, but yeah, no. Didn't I see you say somewhere You used to stay in North Carolina. Where you say you used to stay? South Carolina. 47:48 South Carolina. Oh no, I went to high school in North Carolina. In North Carolina. Where you say, Greensburg? Laurenburg. Laurenburg. Laurenburg, North Carolina, the birds. What 47:57 you calling them from? Laurenburg Prep, The good old days. They rap from, that's where Westchic called them from. So when cigarettes 48:06 cost $1.20. Lucy's or the Pac. The Pac. Old school shit. I don't smoke cigarettes. Tassel. 48:15 Lucy? Yeah. That's the new place, that's what they used to call it. But The answer to your question though, like after the music, definitely like film, film, 48:23 television, all that. Like I got several ideas. I really don't even want to throw too much of it out, man. I got to keep it. You got a genre in mind when you say that? 48:33 I really, I got range, but I definitely want to do a sketch comedy show. Throw that 48:41 out there. And that's something I don't mind sharing it, because I don't feel like nobody could do that like me, but like a sketch comedy show, like similar 48:50 to, I'm not gonna say the next name, I say it off camera. You, you, you, go ahead. No, go ahead, go ahead. Something like Chappelle's show. 48:58 You know what I'm saying? Like some raw shit when I say sketch comedy, just to, you know what I mean? Go ahead. You spoke to Sharon. In the past, let's 49:06 just say you've had moments of your personal life that you might've shared more than maybe you wanted to today. It seems like you shut a lot of that down and you kinda just more 49:15 focused on the craft. That is concerted effort. Do you even see a place where you start to share more of your personal shit again or do the music? Like I share more 49:23 of it in the music like you know I'm saying so when you think about the records like probably some of the records that my man's right here fuck with like I should more like 49:31 it out. It ain't all just fun music and you know, I put the pain in there I put my flaws in there. I just put it out a lot on the table But in terms of like like 49:39 talking like now that's what they're the most Fuck no. Oh, yeah, fuck. No, that's all they say is seem like you it's 49:47 like a love I was somebody broke. Fuck no. That's what I'm saying. This is for y'all baby, this is for the world. The 49:55 world, y'all broke my heart. You know what I'm saying? When y'all ain't say, hey man, Fuck all that shit you got going on give us give us what we need You know I'm saying 50:03 they broke my heart and I know body in particular I can't get nobody that much credit. I could totally see you getting as a sketch comedy I feel like anytime you had an opportunity in a music 50:11 video to do some funny shit You always did I got a lot going on up Having 50:21 to get I got a lot going on. Thank you. Can I help? Anytime that you have had an opportunity to have some 50:29 money in the videos, you do it. And it's funny. Yeah, I mean, as serious as I could be, Like, you know, like when I'm comfortable, when I'm chilling, 50:37 like man we laugh all day, bro we be crying laughing, you know what I'm saying? Like we, you know, we have a good time. That's just what our culture period, like That's 50:45 what we come from, you know what I'm saying? Laughing at our experiences, you know what I'm saying? Laughing at, laughing through our trauma and what we're doing in each other, you know what I'm saying? That's what, 50:53 that's all we had sometimes at the end of the day was a sense of humor, you know what I mean? That'll get you through it, so definitely. You 51:02 speak to more or less just being self-contained, but as far as the industry goes, do you have anyone in the industry that you consider close or someone that you can confide 51:10 into or even like who? 50. 50. Yeah, 50. It's a few people, brother. It's a few 51:19 people. Like 50. Monica, a real 1. Shout out to Monica. She's going down. Monica's 51:28 gone. Fuck Monica. Me and Busta Rhymes, we got a great relationship. I can see that. Another 1. Right, 51:36 it's just solid motherfuckers, man. A lot of people is like, you know, like, the OGs in it, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like really like, see 51:44 me and bro, we ain't bump shoulders a lot, but 1 thing about him, you don't, you're not sparing nobody feelings, you know what I'm 51:52 saying? That's why this platform, it was important for me to come to this platform. Even the amount of coverage that I have been able to get on here, shout out to my boy Gio. He always send me, 52:01 my boy Gio Farrar from the city, He always send me the clips. He's in tune with y'all. In tune, he know every last 1 of y'all. He's trying to think about 52:09 y'all. This nigga trippin', he'll call y'all by your name, man. This nigga trippin', but Joe said this, or Joe said this, and this nigga said this. He's in 52:18 tune with y'all, y'all dynamic with each other and y'all perspective on the game and he really got a lot of respect for it and I do too, because it's just, it's honest. You get what I'm saying? So like 52:26 that's why this platform is like, it was important, like I wanted to come to this 1. It's not controlled. It's not controlled, you know what I'm saying? Above all things, it's not controlled, you know what I'm saying? Above all things, it's not 52:34 controlled, you know what I mean? That's where I'm at, you know what I'm saying, in terms of me, so this was a platform that I wanted to come to for sure. I didn't even 52:42 like going to other ones and not coming to this 1, like really, the ones I wanted to come to, I really only, I wanted to start there, you know what I'm saying? 52:50 Then, I'd do the other ones if I feel like it type shit, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, like just really anybody with me, like it's anybody that you know, 52:58 that can keep it real, and it be the niggas who don't, you know, who don't necessarily like me, nothing from you, just motherfuckers who can just keep it real with you and who done had these 53:07 experiences, you know what I'm saying? Who done had doors shut on them due to whatever. I'm a sponge anywhere where I could be a sponge at the end of the day, 53:15 you know what I'm saying? You mentioned that you're kind of like the OG in the game Oh, 0 gee in the game. Are you I don't been in this shit 7 years I looked up my job this album 53:23 like damn that's that sounds ridiculous Ridiculous look at it. I ain't dropped out for 4 years so it's like 53:32 I was inactive longer than I was active, the way I'm looking at it. So at this point, are there people, they gotta be looking to you for advice too, same way 53:40 you're talking to 15 of them, are there younger artists who you're talking to, a mentor? Yeah, I mean I wouldn't even call it mentoring, 1 thing about me, like anybody who I see like Potential 53:48 in or whatever, like any game that I can give a nigga, I've always just been the 1 to just do that anyways. Like you know, I don't gotta get nothing from it. And it's a lot of artists that's 53:56 like, this own right now, like, where, like if I go back to like, if I put their name in and go to the DMs, they 54:04 try to sign to me before like, yeah, 2019 and shit like that, 2020. So, now it's just dope to just see what's going 54:12 on, you know what I'm saying, with a lot of people and shit. And anybody who got it going on, anytime I can give a motherfucker any type of game, I don't hesitate to do 54:20 so, you know what I mean? Nigga reach out, hey, bro, remix this song. You don't need no fucking remix on that song like that's it 54:28 You know I'm saying now hell now we let's do something fresh that song is I like leave that alone Don't put nobody else on it either. Leave that shit alone. But like. I'm sorry, it 54:37 was Sexy Red on the fucking what's her name? Me, thousand percent. Me, 1000 percent. I knew. Good call. I knew Sexy Red was out of here. 100%. That 54:45 was a good call. You know, the label, the building, they, no, no, no, no, no. I'm like, nah, y'all crazy as fuck. I said, she's out of here. That was a good call. And I look at her You know what I'm saying? Not 54:53 even, and that's not me saying that record is the reason why like I knew what was up with her I knew what was up. You know what I'm saying? I'm like she's out 55:01 of here. I got a question for you. When was the last time you been bowling? Bowling? Shit, we be in Miami 55:09 about 2, 3 weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, we rented out the bowling. Chill out if it's Mr. Shit You Want, man. It's a bowling bus. You guys should have lost it. 55:18 Y'all about that shit. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Me too. Yo, you know what you fucking did. We go for some nice, posh shit. Yo, yo, yo, yo. This nigga is 55:26 the same way with me and him? No, oh my God. Ain't it the same way with me and him? This a master class of journalism. I'm in a conversation with this nigga and you just start thinking, when the last time, 55:34 when you did this and shit like you gotta ask him. No, cause as he's talking, shit is coming back to me. It's been a lot of shit with him. How the 55:42 fuck did you do that? How the fuck did you do that? You're being sexy red, making you think about both. You know what, matter of fact, let me ask you something. I want to say this to you 55:54 though, We gotta give you credit for 56:02 some real debate filled with substance up here. Not about the fucking, the fucking, the malarkey. I'm 56:11 not touching the malarkey. The 300 game. Yeah, what I'm touching. Nigga bowl the 300. I whip my hand back and forth. I whip my hand back and forth. I whip 56:19 my hand back and forth. Everyone a good kickback day with the Zeus people was happening. But what we talked about up here, what we 56:27 talked about was, because all us is dads. Yeah. Like when you do have an issue 56:36 with somebody that's you kind of related to like You can't do that Where 56:44 you not kind of no you know nigga you really related to me I'm 56:54 wrong. You can't do that. You got brother. You got siblings. Yeah, but I got siblings I got brothers. I got older brother, I got 4 brothers, I got sisters. 57:03 They grew up in the house with you? 1 of them. And that nigga beat you up before, right? That's all you got? That's your only question? Yeah, 57:11 I'm gonna be sick. That's it? Yeah, that's it. That's all I have to say. You agree with him on this Was 57:35 afraid I had been threatened Nah, I mean, nah. They took shit, yo, fuck that thing. They took crazy. He bugged out. I was afraid, bro. I had been threatened. He bugged out. I saw him in several. He did threaten him. I saw him. He did. He threatened him. I was 57:44 afraid. Swear to God. I ain't know what was going to happen. I ain't going to lie, son. I ain't know what was going to happen. Yo, you ain't got to convince me. I'm with you, my nigga. Yo, man, you was moving like a modern day he-man. You was just doing what... 57:52 Yo, you was just doing what... I don't want to say it. You was just... Flip, I could've died in that bitch you... 58:00 I saw no elves in your jacket boy. You elves. But you know what I'm saying? You just. God is great. It's so much. Be 58:10 more grateful. You right. You right. Can I actually, since we addressing some things and you mentioned that you respect 58:18 the honesty and stuff that people have up here and stuff? Yeah, I love it. We had a conversation about you addressing certain things that happen in your city. And 58:28 we had strong takes on how we felt about maybe putting it in the record or the visual and stuff. Oh yeah, y'all ain't like that. Yeah, 58:37 how did you feel about that? My nigga chose to say, no this is wrong. Go ahead. How did 58:45 you feel about people probably either mistaking what you met by it or do you ever feel like how you approached it? 58:54 How did you feel about that whole moment? I feel like the 1 thing that I could have did differently was not attach the real video to the beginning of the video. 59:02 Okay. I feel like it's simple as that. That part I understand. I thought I said a lot too. Yeah, yeah. I think you want to say a lot. That's all. You know what I'm saying? You know, but, 59:11 so she was from the Ukraine, I believe, right? The victim. Like, everywhere I go, if y'all know somebody, this Ukrainian, ask 59:19 them their opinion, if y'all run into them. And this is, like me, I'm just, this happened a block away from my condo, you know what I'm saying? 59:27 Like, whatever, it happened right there, cool. But with me, it's just a situation that happened right there in the city that I can share light on. 59:35 It's getting national coverage, you get what I'm saying? That's what I feel like I could have did differently. You know what I'm saying? Just the visual difference. Yeah, yeah, aside from that. 59:43 I mean, I ain't really, you know, I'm an artist at the end of the day, so you know what I'm saying? I'm here to take real life experiences and attach 59:53 it to the music and just put the shit out in a way to where it makes the audience 1:00:01 think. You know what I'm saying? It keeps their thoughts together. A lot of people miss that message. Just like you said, because of the intro video part. Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1:00:09 A lot of people missed it. Yeah, no, in fact, and I did peep that part of it. I'm like, okay, Liv, I would've just, because everything else was so spot on, I think this is the actual 1:00:18 train that it happens on. Everything look exactly how it look. All I had to do was get 1 of my punch, shout out my boy 2 Mob. Yeah, I gotta get you to drop 2 Mob. Shout out my boy 2 1:00:26 Mob. I like 2 Mob, go fuck with that. He gon' love it. He gon' run it up now. He gon' love it. Shout out my nigga 2 Mob. You know what I'm saying? I just casted 2 people real 1:00:34 quick and went and jumped on the train, you know what I'm saying? Stuck 1 of the action cameras on the outside of the bus, on some, if we want to talk production, with the little suction 1:00:42 cup thing, and that's some getting the coverage from the outside of the bus. We get on, I said, I'll get a red, what size you were? Got a red hoodie in his size, I said, where your dress hanging out of it 1:00:51 here I showed him the actual video when you sit here you look like this I put the same outfit I got a t-shirt made like the pizzeria shit like for the the 1:00:59 white girl I casted there was there was playing the victim of the situation and we put it together. You know what I'm saying? They noticed from the cameras on it, 1:01:08 on the train, they kind of like, wait, this shit looked just like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and came and put us off, but the video was already done. I did 1:01:16 it in like 10 minutes real quick. And then I put the GoFundMe on there, hundreds of thousands was raised for the victim's family. You get what I'm saying? 1:01:25 Yeah, we had strong feelings about it, but I agree with what you're saying. Yeah, it's pros and cons to every shit, it's ups and downs to everything. I ain't really tripped, 1:01:33 I took it on the chin. And not only that, I wasn't about to make that my situation and even engage in in terms of how I felt about, you know what I'm 1:01:41 saying, the responses to it. I ain't do it for that. I ain't do it for that, You know what I'm saying? Or I could've took it even, I could've took it a step further, you know what I mean? But like, 1:01:49 as far as like, you know, from a video production perspective, like I could've went, like I could've had like an action movie if I wanted to type shit, but it wasn't 1:01:57 about that at the end of the day. It was just something that took place in real time and me doing what I think great artists do and like, you know, converting 1:02:06 that shit into my art form and you know what I'm saying? And it's your city. Yeah, what's up man? Why you looking at me like that? You 1:02:14 my man, yo. I think that, you know what I'm saying? I'm being for real with what I'm saying. He said that looking like this nigga slick. No, what I was 1:02:23 gonna say is that, I mean, you're a prime example of just sticking to it and staying positive. You know, you come out of anything, man. I remember, I mean, you talked about it 1:02:31 up here. I mean, I used to blog on it before I got up here, how, where you was at and where you were going. And, you know, sometimes 1:02:39 you shouldn't judge a book by its cover because your trajectory at the time when you was just moving, how you was moving, you would say, all right, nigga, it's over. But you fought back. I 1:02:47 don't know what you fought back and and I respect that and when I look at you I smile I think it's dope like you just fought back and you came out of that Probably not 1:02:55 where you want to be but you still on your way there Like it's not it's not over a lot of people that be over for them. You just be over they they going with the wind So 1:03:04 maybe you invested your money and paid for your whole house. You know what I mean? I thought you'd be in apartments by now. I thought you'd be fucked up. That's what I'm saying. 1:03:12 I thought you'd be in a trailer, like, oh, my nigga. You counted them out. I counted them out. Go, go, go. You gotta remember, yo, we was talking about, yo, before I came 1:03:20 up here, niggas was talking about this nigga. You put that nigga in a single walk. Yo, nah, cause this nigga was beating. That's what you mean, a puppy, but now I got it. I'm with you. I'm with you. 1:03:29 Every time I see him, I hug him. I navigated through some shit, man. I hugged that nigga like, it just looked like he... There's a few times where... I'm being more grateful, bro. 1:03:38 Where... You're being more grateful. It was... I mean, I'm trying to show up. Yeah, I be too! But they keep coming back. Have 1:03:46 you gotten comfortable? Have you gotten at a point? I'm pasting my questions out. 1:03:55 Because at 1 point it seemed like you weren't all the way comfortable with the celebrity. Like at 1 point it seemed like when 1:04:04 you choked up the little white boy in front of the hotel. Yo, this is... Everything coming back to this nigga now. This nigga is choked. 1:04:12 No, no, hey. Yeah, Joe. No, when You pressed the little white boy in front of the hotel. You made valid points. Yeah, you were right. You were absolutely right. 1:04:21 I'm with my baby. My 1 year old baby who people see is, she 8 years old now. Like, my oldest daughter that people see me with, she was 1 of the 3 1:04:29 features on my album. Did the music video with her at the time. But he's doing a job, he's valet at a hotel, you know what I'm saying? So 1:04:37 I come outside, we leaving the hotel, I got my baby in my hands. And she's 1 years old at the time. And when he see me, he, oh, 1:04:45 the baby. And he trying to get to his phone. I'm like, with my daughter right now, bro. Like, don't take no pictures. He's supposed to be valiant. He's the 1 getting our cars. So not only, okay, am 1:04:53 I with my child, he's trying to, which I'm sure is a violation of what his job is. I'm putting the phone out to record us, to show people 1:05:01 what car we in. While I'm in LA with my, you putting my child in danger, you get what I'm saying? So he, I said this to him, he said, okay, no, no, no, no, I'm not gonna do it. 1:05:09 As I'm going to put my daughter into the car, who I see, I look up, I'm talking to my nigga, zooming in. Yeah, see 1:05:18 ya. Hand it to my own boy. And I still ain't go, I ain't go, I ain't horrible. I just talk to him a little bit, 1:05:26 aggressively. Just a little conversation. I just wanted him to sit down because I already saw he wasn't a professional and wasn't doing his job correctly so 1:05:34 I had to make sure that he wouldn't you know attack me or anything and I created a distance between me and him. You knew a lot of stuff 1:05:42 to do. He went to that school. He took the class. Can I finish? The police class, yo. That's what they say, yo. 1:05:51 I was felt a little. Can I finish? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Can I finish? I just wanted to create a safe amount of distance between him and myself as I discussed 1:05:59 to him how he placed me and my one-year-old child in danger. You know what I'm saying? While on the job. The valet dude. Yeah, the 1:06:07 dude I just paid. But today you gotta know that at any establishment, you're too big of a star for you to say to 1:06:15 a nigga, yo, don't film me and they listen, right? Did that happen? I ain't done nothing like that since. So, you know. So 1:06:23 what do you do? That was 7 years ago. What do you do tomorrow when the valet does the same thing? Get in the car, pull the fuck out. Yeah, I don't even give 1:06:31 him a chance to. I just go get in the car. Be more grateful, that's right. Everybody's kid, my nigga, he had his child. Some niggas be in there. Oh, but why I got my 1:06:39 child? I'ma talk to you when this guy leave. You agreeing with too much of this shit. No, niggas like, yo, my nigga, we. I mean, I will, yeah, so like, she's 1:06:47 gonna tell you. Like, that's the thing, like my daughter would tell you. Like, she knows that type of motherfucker before they even do it. Like, when people 1:06:55 come walk in, if we somewhere, we went to go get ice cream the other day. She's so funny, we waiting in the line at Cold Stone. Y'all got Cold Stone up here? So we waiting in the line or whatever, 1:07:03 it was booming. And we standing in there, I got all the sisters, all 4 of my daughters, she the oldest though. And we standing in the line, and it's like, you know, the people 1:07:12 that's in here, they done been recognizing me, but they, people know by now, like when I'm with my kids, anybody who know me, they know I'm a 1:07:20 very present father too, they know I'm serious about my kids. That too, I mean it done went worse, bro, how it happened, depending 1:07:28 on what you do, I'm with my kids, You get what I'm saying? But like, so everybody else coolin', and then it's like a male and a female, they 1:07:36 walk in, right? But just they hold demeanor like it ain't. You know, and anybody that walk in, like I'm lookin' at everybody, so we done already made eye contact. All you gotta do is, you know, you can do 1:07:44 whatever. You cannot give a fuck about me. I would prefer that. You get what I'm saying? But it's cool, we can, you know, not whatever. But see you got people that 1:07:52 just got that demeanor, well okay, they act like it and then they just trying. You see them, you see them. You see them, you see them. Now all of a sudden they're sending the text back. They're sending it like this with that 1:08:00 bitch facing you and shit. My daughter, she turns around, you know, you're facing the, where you pick your top and she's turning around the whole time. Just 1:08:09 staring at him, just meme-ugging. I'm like, baby, come on, like, it's all good, baby. She's leaning behind me like this, just looking at him. Like, not like, just watch 1:08:17 them for like 10 minutes straight but like I said I had to say this is like a eight-year-old of course this got a lot to do with like the way she's been raised just pay attention 1:08:25 her surroundings it's more of that is that type of thing more than anything you know I'm saying like when she when she was 1 and they got some some shit 1:08:34 happened in front of her you get what I'm saying it's like she understands like then we have to pay the importance of paying attention to your surroundings. She knows she's not 1:08:42 normal, you get what I'm saying? And us being who we blessed to be, it comes with shit that you know that we gotta be on point about, you know what I'm saying, at the end of 1:08:50 the day. And that's all it is, that's just me being on point. I could have not seen him doing that, he could have posted that, tipped some niggas off, I could have been pulling up somewhere with 1:08:58 my daughter, later on that day, get laid down, like you see niggas do, You get what I'm saying? Like, well, I got my child. You know what I'm saying? Get laid down 1:09:06 somewhere. So it's- I mean, we lost some people. We lost some people. 1000 percent from not being on point. You get what I'm saying? The 1 time, the 1 moment you should be allowed to turn off 1:09:14 your celebrity mind and all that other shit. When you with your kids. That's what I'm doing. I don't even take pictures. I don't like when people see me with my kid. 1:09:23 I ain't no rapper right now. I'm a father. I don't even say anything wrong thing. Or even the person taking a picture, right? If you somebody's with their kids, my 1:09:31 nigga. Put that shit away. Like, yo dog, I'm with my kids, not today. My nigga, you should have enough coof to be like, alright, cool. I think at some point, and 1:09:39 this probably won't happen in my lifetime, but I do think at some 0.1 law needs to change with what people are able to do with their phones to 1:09:47 just strain people. Yeah, you should be able to just strain people. So what about you when you was chasing them niggas? With the rocks, niggas. Yeah, yeah. That's a great question. So what would you do 1:09:55 today if they came to my house? Yeah. Follow the door. So why you do it all? You could have went in the door and shut the door and locked the door. Hold on. He did. 1:10:04 What about when that nigga was at my house? Wait. Wait. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I did what I'm saying he should have done. 1:10:12 What was that? Them niggas was playing at my house. OK. And gun laws are different up here. So I grabbed some rocks. You 1:10:22 chased them niggas 4 blocks, Joe. No, no, no. 1 more. 1 more. No, I chased them niggas. I chased them niggas a 1:10:30 lot more than 4 blocks. I was driving. Wasn't you driving? I was saying. Yeah, it was 4, nigga. But the point is, when I caught them niggas, if 1:10:38 I do anything with this rock or beat these, and it was kids. Yeah, it was kids. Homeboy, but you was an adult, maybe. These niggas. And he wasn't playing. These niggas 1:10:46 was 16 years old. Yeah, and I done caught these niggas. I can't hit them, I can't do nothing. So all I can do is. Try 1:10:54 to scare them. Motherfucker. Yo, but that's the point. Do it again, you motherfucker. Imagine how hot you got with some kids that really didn't mean you no harm or that you didn't think would do some 1:11:02 hard bodily harm magic with your kids I went to the house next day and no and talk to the parents you got damn right but versus Jump over 1:11:11 your gate. Oh, you can know you price your shot I'm talking shit. I'm gonna talk to y'all about understanding all the violent shit 1:11:19 that this nigga say You know, I'm talking to y'all The 1:11:28 reason why I'm a Thing about me like Like the reason why I'm able to navigate through a lot of the shit I done 1:11:36 been blessed enough to navigate through is because the shit I do, anything I've done, especially like the media that's seen under the microscope of the world, anything 1:11:44 I done did, it was done righteously. Like I'm not out here. Bugging. Yeah, yeah. I ain't just out here Just doing nothing like I don't 1:11:52 do nothing for no reason. You know I'm saying I ain't no bully I don't I don't look for for problems. I just you know what I'm saying Karma 1:12:03 yeah, That's why you working out. But I ain't superstitious. Look at you, look at my son. What you mean? That nigga like, that nigga like, Big Diesel boy. My 1:12:12 son, anything to play with him. Anything to diss my son. Nah, I don't think I got no karma coming from nothing. Nah, I don't know. Nah, I don't think I 1:12:20 got no karma coming from nothing. I ain't, you know. Do you ever, do you? Good karma. I know that, you know, cause 1:12:28 I saw a video recently where somebody was like, antagonizing you and you told him like, yo bro, you should have used that moment differently. I think he 1:12:36 was in the truck, and he was trying to ask you. Oh, okay. Some shit like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're the bad journalist. Yeah, does that bother you, though? Even coming up here, I'm joking around, 1:12:45 but does it feel a way that people keep trying to go back in there while you're trying to show them the fuck? While I'm trying to rebuild? Yeah, nah. Does it bother you 1:12:53 honestly? I mean with him, it was more so like, with that goofy nigga, he don't even know, like it's the difference, you know what I'm saying? 1:13:02 He gotta do it better, that's what I was telling him. Like I wouldn't, that wasn't even no situation where I'm really like, you see me? I'm like, man, get this nigga out the way. Come on, let's go, watch 1:13:10 out. Like I said it like that. Like, cause I already don't stop and talk when I'm leaving No venue, no way. It's time to get the fuck out of there. It's another 1:13:18 part of being on point. When I leave, when I'm on the way from somewhere, we get in the motherfucking car, we race C-Bell's kids, we run in the red light. 1:13:26 So if somebody run that bitch with us, we know okay, we can identify them as a threat or whatever. You know what I'm saying? It's something like I'm, I moved Millerton anyway, so for 1:13:34 me to even, you know, lend you that amount of time to, he already told me he was trying to, can I do an interview with him for me to lend you that amount of time and for you to not make the best of it, it just 1:13:43 ain't make sense? Now you should have asked that question maybe like fourth or fifth type shit like you know yeah like I don't you know I don't y'all ain't come straight 1:13:51 in he did start with some bullshit but he could do that he's established I asked the very first thing you said Louie Vuitton yeah come on I 1:14:00 forgot about that little joke I was gonna ask the nigga if he knew the rules that was your first question I've been dying to ask this nigga that if I was 1:14:08 dead I was gonna ask the nigga if he knew the rules of Walmart that was your third first question I was gonna ask the nigga if he knew what was your first question. That was your first question? I've been dying to ask this nigga that. If I was dead, I was gonna ask the nigga if he knew the rules of Walmart. He said we gotta catch it up in this clip. That was his third first question. I was gonna ask the nigga about the rules of Walmart. But even then, right? 1:14:17 Let me give you the difference, right? It's like a learning moment for Buddy, right? Like, you see the way you formulated 1:14:25 your question. This nigga asked me, when was the last time you been in a fight? That's what he asked me. And it's like, nigga, what you talking about? 1:14:34 Like, have a better way of going about it. You get what I'm saying? He asked me the last time I've been in a fight, Joe asked me the last time I went bowling. He asked me if I 1:14:42 know the rules a little bit. You gotta just learn from the people who the best at doing what it is that you're trying to do young man and you know and when you I see he 1:14:50 do he run into a lot of people when I went and went and did my research always go do my research you gotta know that 2 people doing a research so be careful be 1:14:58 more grateful but like be more grateful end of the day like when I went and boom you know I'm saying like I see he runs into a lot of people, so he should 1:15:06 probably just be more prepared with how to deal with people who have to move a certain way in order to protect themselves. I'm not saying protect themselves 1:15:14 physically, I'm saying protect their brand or whatever. It's ways to go about doing it. You know what I'm saying? Then you lay it out there and you get them people the opportunity 1:15:23 to give you what it is that you looking for. You get what I'm saying? Without damaging your reputation or your brand 1:15:31 as a motherfucking blogger or whatever it is that he do. I ain't comparing him to y'all, I ain't putting him on the same playing field as y'all, but it's like, you're going to make it the way when people see you, now I ain't 1:15:39 fucking with that nigga. I ain't fucking with that nigga, that nigga messy. You know what I'm saying? You got to have a balance of substance and you know what I'm saying? 1:15:48 Whatever else that it is that you're doing to to to pull you know I'm saying the motherfuckers in it's gonna get you the way You need to get to that's all it is with that nigga But 1:15:56 when it come to like people who just answer your question directly like who You know like I don't Like so it's a difference right like I said like y'all platform 1:16:04 I respect y'all platform this and then I name in the balance is healthy. I fuck with that too. That's what I understand You know I'm saying all that that's cool And these is real questions 1:16:12 that this nigga probably got we ain't set out You know I'm sounding been 7 years worth for catching up You know and this is all shit that he's, I've seen him give his, I've seen y'all give y'all 1:16:21 perspective on everything we talking about anyway. You get what I'm saying? So it's cool, whatever, right? But like, it's the difference. This motherfucker's who, that's all 1:16:29 they got to offer, and this motherfucker's who just, you know, who good at journalism and what they do, and it's, like that I respect it. Like the little niggas that's 1:16:37 running up on niggas talking about y'all on scale of 1 to 10 I easy you think I could fuck you up come with that type of them niggas need to get that's trolling shit I 1:16:46 mean Them 1:16:55 niggas don't be fucking with me though 1:17:08 I Was a point where They be having like, the niggas leave me alone. You're a cool guy though. Yeah, I be chilling, I don't really. Nah, no 1 else is funny now that I'm thinking about it. Some more shit is coming back to me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Slow down, slow down. No, there was a point where your name was in the news and 1:17:16 it looked like you had enough of that shit and it was like, you know what? The baby's on some peaceful shit for the next half many years. I'm not even entertaining shit. I'm getting security. And 1:17:25 then you get Kane. I've been with Kane. Kane has been with me since 2019. Kane, you know Kane's a guy. See, you're not 1:17:33 even dragging me to this shit because I know what you're talking about. Kane is serious, yo. Kane is a big kid man. Y'all niggas look like they have 1:17:41 fun in the road though. Yeah, for sure man. For sure. I fuck with Kane. Kane is much more than a bodyguard man. He really a whole lot 1:17:49 of, he don't want to do that bodyguard shit. You mean the guy that be doing contentious, right? He really a actor and all that. 1:17:57 He really got a lot more going on. So I'm excited to see that go the way it go for me. And what was your childhood like, yo? 1:18:06 The youngest of 3 brothers. No, I'm just saying, both parents or just my mom? The baby boy, nah, just my mom and my brothers, yeah. Getting left at 1:18:14 home with them niggas. And were they, the example that they set for you, were any of them in the streets or like? They both were. Both was in 1:18:22 the streets? Yeah. Did they try to keep you out of that? Did they say, yo, we don't want you in the streets? Yeah, yeah they did. Okay, okay. And then were they ever 1:18:30 like, did they ever discipline you? Like beat you up for doing something that you wasn't? Discipline me. Like give me a whooping, like fuck me. No, 1:18:38 it wasn't. The keep me out the streets wasn't on no, it wasn't on no goddamn, like they clean cut goddamn. And 1:18:48 no, it wasn't. My brothers wasn't my daddy. Like, no, no, no, it wasn't that. Them niggas was shit. I didn't 1:19:00 have to be in the streets. So they were well respected? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. Got it, got it. Him, my cousin, my older, yeah, like, 1:19:08 by the time I got to middle school, because I'm 5 years younger than my oldest brother, by the time I got to middle school, all the teachers and ministers, everybody already 1:19:16 knew who my younger brothers were, I mean my older brothers was, high school, so on and so forth, so, you know. But it was more so like, like I'm 1:19:24 like the golden child type shit, like nah, like hell nah. Like I always was like a straight A student and shit. I ain't get B's 1:19:33 to like high school And it's days and B's I went to college for 3 years You know what I'm saying? College with you. 1:19:41 I ain't really had no me know my neck without what the major did I did I pick when I first? Started, but I ain't I took them classes probably 1 semester and 1:19:49 then left that shit alone, it was political science. I wanted to be the first black president until Barack Obama came in, then I'm like, I ain't fucked that shit. Nigga did 1:19:57 it already, son. All right, can't be the first. I swear to God, I didn't really care to go to college. I did that for my mom and them, but like. You escaped the equation. I did that for 1:20:06 my mom and them. So you saw my rocket office, and you just quit your president dream? Swear to God. Yeah. Are there other niggas that sold 1:20:14 drugs before? This nigga coming up. Like what made you, what made you, what made you, I definitely was already selling drugs. That's what I'm saying, so what made you, what made you go in a different direction? Nobody had been the president. 1:20:23 To go in a different direction in terms of what? Like not wanting to, I mean you took a hard left. When I did what? From wanting to be the president. Not wanting to be 1:20:31 the president. I wasn't on those super, I want to be the next president shit. No, like, okay, so for context, right, like I was like a kid, like when you asked 1:20:39 me, like what you want to be when you grow up, like I'm going to say rich. Like I didn't have like, no, the only thing I wanted to be, only thing I didn't want to be the president 1:20:47 for real. I guess it just had to be something big, so it makes sense to like, okay, like. Exactly. But a chef, like the only like regular thing 1:20:55 I wanted to be ever was a chef. I didn't even want to be a rapper. I didn't even know. Can you cook? Are you nice? I'm the truth. You don't know no knife. Oh man, y'all ain't 1:21:04 do y'all research. But don't nobody in this bitch know how I get out in the kitchen. No, we know. You know it. So, bops nigga. You nice? I'm the truth. 1:21:12 You know the robot, I didn't touch the food. I'm the truth. I didn't taste the food. You know he's nice. Yeah, he say he nice. True, what's your specialty? 1:21:20 That's what he said. Who said it? You said it, Chris, when I walked in, he said, you got the stove in here. You could have, what'd he say? You could have put you to the test. Yeah, Chris, I heard what he said. Chris volunteered 1:21:28 to the stove, nigga. Everything. I'm like that. I've been cooking since the kid. I told you I was home alone with my brothers, they was in the streets, I had to 1:21:36 eat. You know. But what makes you think it, like, I had this conversation with you, what makes it nice? Like, who could vouch? Like, you drink the baby. Everybody, nigga. 1:21:44 Everybody. You always say it. Homies. Homies. Homies say it. Everybody. Who niggas got muscles like you? I've 1:21:52 never even dealt with a woman that can cook better than me. Really? I swear to God. When men can cook, they get busy. I'm telling you, I'm 1:22:00 the truth. By what day? Like I wanted to be a chef. Like, I'm the truth. We making your own creations and shit? Or just all that shit? Baby, come 1:22:08 on. We want to hit the last thing I made? Yes. You want me to call somebody so they know? Just tell them where it is. Jerk lamb chops, stuffed salmon stuffed 1:22:17 with cream cheese. It's cat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, cat. Yeah. Yeah. He can't 1:22:25 believe it. He can't believe it. Go ahead. Finish the song. Yeah. He going to do it. He going to do it. He going to do it. Yeah. I think he going 1:22:33 to do it. Make the fuck up. That's cat. Cream cheese with jerk lamb chop. No, no. Jerk lamb chop. Jerk lamb chop stuffed salmon. Stuffed salmon with cream cheese or what? You 1:22:42 take sort of stuff and you put it in there. Cream cheese, spinach, crab meat. Jumbo lump crab meat. Mix this shit up. I like to 1:22:50 put the crab on the stove, heat it up with some garlic butter. You put your little seasoning blend in there. You know what I'm saying? I go, oh, babe. Slap it up. Oh. 1:22:58 Put the seasoning in there. I'm putting you down. I'm listening, I'm listening. You put it, look. You mix it up in a bowl. You sauce it with spinach, you put that shit in there, you mix it 1:23:06 up in a bowl. You put the spinach in the seasoning too? No, you put it, you mix it with the cream cheese. So you take the cream cheese blocks, you put it in a big mixing bowl. Yeah, so you put them in a big mixing 1:23:15 bowl. Check me out. Oh yeah, he cooked too though. This nigga don't cook. Stay with me nigga. I burn water. Put the cream cheese in the mixing 1:23:23 bowl. You go ahead and put it in there. Make sure it ain't cold and rock solid. Put it in the mixing bowl. You put the jumbo lump crab meat in there. It's gonna melt it down a little bit because it's 1:23:31 gonna be warm after you after you put that on the stove you season it Up and you saute the spinach you put that in there you mix all that shit up You put it in a gallon size Ziploc 1:23:39 bag you put it to the corner twisted like you turn this into like a Yeah, you cut the corner of it 1:23:47 you take the salmon You cut this shit down the middle and you just you fill it up with the cream cheese stuff. Or you might be nice. This after you already did. 1:23:55 You might be nice, though. You just make the piping bags and stuff. You know you might shit in the oven as far as the jerk lamb chops. What you making piping bags? You just go get you some good jerk marinade, 1:24:04 some jerk seasoning, this nigga joking. Nigga be hungry after a long day of violence. I 1:24:12 just got 3 people, I need some lamb chops. In the lamb chops, they fall off the bone, tendonism, my nigga. You go get you some brioche 1:24:20 rolls and you brush them with honey butter. I put them on at 400 and got them just, you know, let the honey butter. In a new relationship, 1:24:29 in courtship, What date do you unveil this hidden talent? I don't need to really be big on it. If you come around me period on a regular Wednesday, 1:24:37 you fuck around and catch a meal like that. Oh, this thing is crazy. Yo, dog, if you a man that's come. So what's today? I told you about that smooth shit, bro. I told you about that smooth shit, yo. 1:24:45 He going too crazy, bro. I'm telling you, he going too crazy. He going too crazy, buddy. I don't try to sound good, it just sound good when I talk. Listen, what's 1:24:53 today? That's him, shit. Friday. Today Friday. Yeah, it be like grown ass niggas, like I don't use that to like, to court women and shit like that. Like it 1:25:02 be, it be. My niggas that can cook, that shit is a layer. Oh no, 100%. That shit is better than poetry. But this fucking really make this? I'ma tell you why, 1:25:10 I'ma tell you why I don't do that. Cause it's like, that's gon' fuck your head up. Like, that's gon' fuck your head up. I ain't easy to forget about like 1:25:30 Act like he homophobic This nigga act like he homophobic or something. He made all the holes. Yo. Baby can't see that. Yeah. 1:25:40 There you go. Oh my God. We'll do that up here. Watch yourself. You can't 1:25:48 do that. Flip. That nigga's crazy. But yeah, like I say. Open your mind nigga. Like I say, you pull up on me on a Wednesday, 1:25:56 that's the type meal you get. I say that's the last meal I made. What's today? It's Friday, right? Do the math. But see, you smart though. I'm 1:26:04 doing the math. I'm doing the math. He cooks as well. I do, I like cooking. He cooks. These 2 cooks. You said something important. You don't like to go ahead and lead with that cuz women 1:26:15 feel like they more important than what they is. No, I can't say that. They'll never leave his crew. I'm not going to disrespect the women like that, brother. I'm not going to say that. I'm not fucking with you. I'm keeping the stat. 1:26:23 Fuck all that. No, no, no. You know, a nigga make a meal like that, like you going to fall in love. To not even be long-winded with this shit, I'd 1:26:31 be like, hell nah, you gonna fall in love. When they see me cooking on the internet, when you gonna cook with me, I don't, nah, hell nah, you gonna fall in love. Hell no. Nah, you gonna fall in love. Yeah, he can 1:26:39 muscle muscle. You gonna fall in love. Let me ask you something, man. You gonna fall in love. We was just having a real heated debate in here about pick-up lines. Talk to me. We 1:26:49 was talking about, you may, I don't know if you saw it or not, the game is DMing women F3. And he's saying, 1:26:57 yo. They say, huh? Yeah, they say what? Question mark. And He says, you was looking like a snack, so I thought I saw 1:27:05 a vending machine. You know, you pick F3 on a vending machine and shit. I didn't know what the shit 1:27:13 meant, it's so tough. You ain't no Yo, D8 1:27:21 and they be like, what? And then he like, yo, oh, no, I saw a snack. I thought it was a vending machine. And all it's going to do is get a laugh. If it get a laugh, it 1:27:29 hit. So a couple of, OK, how many niggas said that was fire? That's fire. That's absolutely fire. That's fire. It worked. It worked. You thought it 1:27:37 was corny, ma. It's fire. It's like dad jokes corny, but it worked. Bro, if she laughs- The point is for it to work. My nigga, No, 1:27:46 the point is to make her laugh. That's working. And if she laughs at the line and starts a conversation, it works. It depends on the chick you're 1:27:54 approaching. It depends on the certain women that ain't trying to... What are your thoughts on pick up lines today? Because whether you thought it 1:28:02 was dope or wack I just appreciated the fact that the nigga was trying to bring back pick up lines like what are you what are your thoughts 1:28:10 on pick up lines versus what niggas are using out here to get away niggas just paying for it. I 1:28:19 don't know how you feel about about that I'm not into that. Yeah, that's not you. Shit I'm 1:28:31 not into that shit. He's on fire! We're so phony! He's paying like a bum. You thought that shit was hot. 1:28:40 But not out of necessity. Hey, don't misrepresent me up here. Not Out of necessity just off the cup, you know convenience 1:28:48 like a little 17 on it pay a rent man Little 23 on it 24 on it man, so I'm like You 1:28:59 pay somebody before a bitch you pay somebody my kids my kids no, no, no, no, no Mortgage 1:29:09 never Joe, I think once niggas get money they gotta pay somebody right I don't think that nigga cheap as hell I'm sure the the women 1:29:17 is into like the whole trick and kosher and all that they don't fuck I'm not that type of nigga. So what's the most you ever spit on the 1? Like 1:29:26 tricky That's it he attack we don't need to go out to eat, I can cook. Ha ha ha 1:29:34 ha. That's your funny. We don't need to go to a room. What restaurant? What restaurant, nigga? Hey, 1:29:42 yo, it's fucking time. Shit's on the table, y'all. Y'all are going to fuck me. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like. It's not 1:29:51 true. The good is here, that's eating good. Like, if I go out to eat, I'm trying to eat. I'm saying every day, so it's all good. What's your mentality on that? Like, why you 1:29:59 chose to Be on the opposite side of that when it comes to buying women's items or even spending money on women What is your thought going? It ain't even a choice like 1:30:07 it ain't it ain't something I think of ahead of time It's just that ain't how I just don't She's that ain't how I think it ain't no G shit ain't no I 1:30:17 just don't that ain't the way I go about doing it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't, it's not as enjoyable. You know what I'm saying? I like to eat what I can. Like, oh shit. That shit is 1:30:25 funny that everybody assume that the minute that you get into that space and everything, you gotta do it. That's the assumption, that you gotta do it. You got some money, so why not spend 1:30:33 it? I mean, what you give a girl. No, because he think the same way like you, but I think because he said what you give a girl. Like what, no, what you would probably give a girl, like that shit that I could have been 1:30:41 doing, like before I was rapping type shit, you know what I'm saying? Man, that shit don't be about nothing, you know what I'm saying, at the end of the day. Now, you got his levels too now, 1:30:49 don't get me wrong, but I ain't even We do grade school word to it. Yeah, I ain't trying to graduate and got them Them 1:30:59 same ones that they do all that with, you know, I fuck around and catch them at the right time. For the freezky. For the freezky. For the 1:31:07 fear me. You fear me, so it's, you know, it go how it go, but I ain't, that just ain't my life. You're turning into an alto, man. That ain't my game. I tell my bro real quick, that ain't my game. I can see that. And they 1:31:15 gonna respect it. Let me ask you something. Or get the fuck on with it. At the height of your touring, how 1:31:23 long were you on the road? What did that look like? 2019, I ain't, so when I first, when I went on my first Hardticket Sale 1:31:31 Tour, which I did earlier, I did a week after the debut project where I got to the, that had Sugar going to do all that. I didn't even get off the road 1:31:39 until COVID. So I was on tour, like they extended it. They extended the tour. Then I dropped again. I dropped Kirk, that album went number 1:31:47 1. I was on tour all the way until COVID hit the top of, like March 2020 or whatever, 1:31:56 because I was in arenas by that time, so I ain't had no choice of having that many people in there and then even when COVID, when 1:32:04 COVID got them, had got like started getting lifted like the restrictions or whatever I still couldn't get back on the road, you know what I'm saying? Like rolling out was like my second 1:32:12 show back on the road, you know what I'm saying? Because it wasn't my, the capacity. What's your most enjoyable part and the least enjoyable 1:32:20 part of touring? Least enjoyable part? Least enjoyable part probably being away from my kids, you know what I'm saying? 1:32:30 Everything else though, that's my favorite part of this shit. Just getting in front of the audience and performing. That's my favorite part, 1:32:38 and the performing. For sure, for sure, hands down. But least favorite part, just being away from my kids, other than that, I have a ball. 1:32:46 Speaking of that, the Be More Grateful Tour on sale right now, a real intimate tour. I expect all y'all to get y'all tickets meet me there so we can get real close to each other hold hands 1:32:54 hug each other Sing all the songs together word for word and cry But you guys that's how you get the girls look shit like that Look shit like that Are 1:33:18 you a phone guy like you took on the phone with the ladies for a long time? I'm a get in your face type of nigga. I don't really care to do all that phone shit. You're going to the crib 1:33:26 and just sit there and sit on that shit? Nah, nah, nah. They don't go to the crib neither. The crib? All right, nigga. How you doing? All right, nigga, come on, bro. Where you you the crib got another spot? 1:33:41 Well, I gotta have a spot Are you gonna they spot? No fuck no Fuck no. That's like when the last time you've been 1:33:49 a girl Last 1:33:59 week my daughter's my daughter's mom. No, no, he talk about okay. I so yeah now cuz you believe you subscribe today I subscribe that they got no flip subscribe 1:34:07 to that like perfect way to get your head blown off. Absolutely. Yeah, we can't be moving like that. Especially today. Yeah. Especially today. Yeah, yeah, nah, nah, nah, You can't move like this. 1:34:15 It's been a while. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I can't It's 1:34:25 too many examples Come on, man. Start again. You got him started again. You gonna set you up? 1:34:33 Uh-huh. Yeah, they will. Boy, they fucking around and have problems, you know. You don't know who got their house key. Yeah. That part. That 1:34:41 part. That part. We broken up. Yo, y'all been together 10 years. Y'all broke up for 2 weeks. That ain't no breakup. What the fuck is you talking about? See the pair of black forces on 1:34:49 the floor in the corner. Nope, time to go. Have you ever been heartbroken? 1000 1:34:57 percent, brother. Several times. When was the last time? Go 1:35:08 ahead, go ahead. Right before the album. It's cool, it's cool. Heartbroken? 1:35:19 Yes. We ain't going to tell nobody. The water there, bro, the water good? We ain't gonna tell nobody, yeah, yeah. They gonna see it. No, no, 1:35:28 no, no. No, no, no. Nah, ain't no shame in my game when it comes to shit like that. You just drink some water. Honestly, like, shit, since the first time, I ain't allowed 1:35:36 it to happen again, for real. When was the first time? High school, brother. All right. Oh, the baby. Hey, baby, come on, see? He's taught you shit. 1:35:45 You be going around as a grown ass man, getting your heart broken. I'm married. Yeah. Hold on. You ain't even done with this yet. I'm supposed to 1:35:53 answer that girl. Come on, man. This nigga ain't wearing his wedding ring, man. You know what? You cool with that? That's 1:36:01 not to my family. So you talking about you? You talking about yourself? You asking me questions? Welcome to Flip. Welcome to Flip. You want to get serious, 1:36:09 so be down. What's up, my wedding ring, right? Listen, I just noticed that. I didn't know that. Why he ain't wearing that bitch. That's what I want to know I'm going 1:36:17 off Chairs my wedding ring, you know, I mean I'd be outside a lot 1:36:25 moving around. He cherishes it so much he keeps it in the box and hold it so people can't see it. It's safer that way. It's safe. Same type shit. You give it an air conditioned environment. You 1:36:33 know the thing is that I acknowledge that I'm married every minute away so the world knows like the wedding ring doesn't matter. I think the words that you represent your family is what matters. I 1:36:42 go out there and represent my family. That's the shit that niggas be saying. You know what I mean? So, but no the shit niggas be saying is that I ain't give a ho- Sharon and Green Acres ain't no though. Who? 1:36:50 Sharon and Green Acres, she ain't no- That's Surround Cinema, right? The shit that you niggas be saying is that I ain't give a ho- So when I ran into you at Sirius last week, that 1:36:58 was your wife, your old lady that you had with your ho- I ain't had no man who watched it. She was a fat ass, flared with the fat ass. I was being respectful. He 1:37:06 lying. I was with JR. The 1 with the fat ass. The 1 with the fat ass. Oh, shit. Watch it. You know JR 1:37:14 wouldn't let go down, nigga. That's how I know he lying flip 1 with nothing with the fat Yeah, 1:37:30 yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I'll sit back, click, click. Don't 1:37:38 mind me, Tripp. You're right. He's the 1 trying to take me down the road. Somebody wants to assist him or somebody else's assistance. You know what I'm saying? I ain't see 1:37:46 him with no female. I'm just just to let you know boss lady. I ain't see Thank you, but what I'm saying is that you can't be like you can't be my true. So to answer y'all question right 1:37:55 like yeah Heartbroken that that's a little too extreme like got it. Okay. Well, that's not got I didn't got my feelings hurt several times over the years, you know what 1:38:03 I'm saying? The simplest shit can hurt my feelings. How you doing today? Especially these girls up here in New York. How you doing today, beautiful? Suck my dick, nigga. Yeah, 1:38:12 yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You been over in Brooklyn. You been to Harlem, you been to Harlem. You been to Brooklyn. You 1:38:20 been to the Bronx. Where the fuck we roll with y'all, man? They don't do that when you pay. Oh shit. Hey, she said cash out, right? I don't even hear them 1:38:29 bitches talk. Bro, he do got them, huh? No, that is funny. Niggas come up here with that motherfuckin' Southern hospitality shit. These rude motherfuckers. 1:38:37 They go, God damn nigga, suck my dick, nigga. Whoa. Holy shit. With the tongue down on the chimps. Tellin' you. No, that's funny. Croc tongue. 1:38:46 Oh, man. But yeah, man, so, you know. I got my feelings hurt a lot Do you date industry women still? Are you? Are you? 1:39:00 About the dot. I'm just saying, you know, what are you talking about? Are you a man of the distance, man? I know what you're talking about, brother. He thought Mark figured him out. Nah, I'm just asking. I 1:39:15 just wanted to be sure to ask. We gonna talk about Shudder, I saw you with the big butt. Yeah, it's with the mark. No, I guess what I'm saying, do you date civilians 1:39:23 only or is that like a- Nah, I don't got no type, like I told, you know what I'm saying? My own girl earlier, Mona. I don't got no type, but 1:39:31 nah, I don't got no, you know, I'm a man, I'm a human, I like who I like when I like them. Got you. This nigga moving around. For the time that I like them. 1:39:39 I ain't gonna hold you. He moving like Knight Rider, nigga. My man, my man. What's that call, what's that guitar? Kit, kit. He moving like Kit, nigga. I'm a man of the blast, That 1:39:47 for sure. Yeah. So what can your fans, let me bring this back to music. Please. Your fans, they 1:39:56 -> 100:04.240] don't want to see another 4 year hiatus. They ain't gonna see that. We on they ass, man. Thank God. We on they ass. Yeah, that's what I'm about to add.