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0:01 The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious, 0:09 it is not real. No 1 is exposing, revealing, indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. 0:17 We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart. Or enjoy the show. I 0:46 Ladies and gentlemen, I know I say it a lot. I 0:54 say it a lot. I almost say it for every guest we have coming up here. I say, hey, we got a real legend in the building. But it don't always be true. It 1:03 don't always be true. It don't. Today, we have a real legend in the building. Rap royalty 1:13 is in the building today. That's crazy. 1 of the greatest, 1 of the most underrated. Yeah, I ain't lying, man. Somehow, somehow, 1:21 still underrated. Make some motherfucking noise. AZ is up in this motherfucker again. Yes, sir. Yes, 1:29 sir. Yes, sir. I Can't believe they is here. Yeah, yeah Fuck 1:38 out of here. He told niggas that early morning. I believe it. I believe it Yeah, I've been looking for a to come up here for years Yeah, 1:46 But this man is so low and just be minding his business and just smooth. Yeah. Blame it on our Rock Kim 1:55 incognito taking it easy. Blame on him and Eric B. They started it. How do you do that? Like, how do you 2:03 manage to just stay to yourself? How do you manage to keep this, the mystique that comes with, that rappers 2:11 used to have? That's crazy. Don't know. Just do it. Stay out the way. Because when I saw him, where was I? When I went out and bought flowers 2:19 on Mother's Day 1 of those years. I was buying some flowers for Mother's Day. The line was packed in there. And AZ 2:28 is in there buying flowers. I said to myself, oh shit, AZ is buying flowers for his mom or some shit on Mother's Day. That's fucking dope. That's a 2:36 fact. Do you feel like, I know Parth just mentioned you underrated. Do you feel 2:44 like you're like the most underrated rapper in the history of rap or at least on the list? Probably I mean I think G-Rap is, 2:53 sometimes I think Jada is. G-Rap's getting his flowers. I don't think you can count yourself. G-Rap's getting his flowers 3:01 more than he did maybe 10 years ago, lately. A lot of people are coming out, y'all are super inspired by G-Rap. Other rappers, 3:10 not the masses or the fans. That may be true. So you never looked at yourself as... Nah, you can't do that. You got to. You can't look 3:18 at yourself as nothing, I don't think. Man, when you be hearing these bum ass niggas and you be like, yo dog. I'm still politically correct. Y'all loose. Y'all loose. 3:29 We'll talk shit for you too. Yeah, we'll do. Well, how do you feel about the people saying that you have the greatest hip hop feature verse 3:37 ever? They right. Oh, that's a fact. That's a fact. They right. That's good. I mean, being alongside the guy that really do it, that's a good 3:45 look. To me, that's a good look. You got a lot of good albums too yo. People don't know about your discography. If they don't know, let me clarify. 3:53 If they don't know about your discography, it ain't just do or die. You have a bunch of good albums. 10 studio albums. That's crazy. My thing is 4:02 I think being on different labels. You were in the kind of early too. Yeah. So many labels. 4:10 E-Mod, Virgin, to Yab-Yum, to Motown, then Koch, E1. But how does that 4:18 happen for somebody who was so dope and so hot as you were? It wasn't by choice, it was, I 4:26 think, like financial situations and labels folding and shit like that. Yeah, unfortunate landing in unfortunate spots 4:35 that happen to go up right after you drop. Just roll with the punches at that point. Why you niggas ain't aging, man? Shit, 4:43 I feel like it. Nah, like you, Nas, Styles, Kiss, it seem like y'all just reversing their hands at times. Like what do y'all, is it a health 4:52 thing? Just practicing, maybe no stress? There we go. Sucker free is the key. That's the key. Well how do you do that now 5:00 with all the suckers around? There's no suckers around me. Oh. He stays low. Stays out the way of the suckers. When 5:09 you dropped So High the other day, and I'm going to play it, I didn't know that you was dropping some shit. So I 5:17 was just searching for music. I saw AZ, I saw Sohi. I'm like, oh shit, this is new, new AZ. I'm copping this. It was an instant cop for me. It brought 5:25 me back. I'm like, oh shit, it brought me back. Why now Do you feel any pressure about coming 5:35 after or putting a sequel out to what many people feel is a classic? This is the third. This is the third. No, it's not. It wasn't the third. This is 5:43 the third. This is the third. This is the third. Yeah. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. But you know what? It was the 30th anniversary, so I felt like, I was working on an album anyway and then October was here 5:51 and I was like, you know what, let me put the door down and I wanted to just do some songs over, just to remake them and then I just got into 5:59 a mix and then Nas was like, yo, let's make something happen. It's now or never. Oh, so you kind of redoing some records on here? I 6:07 see this. I started. I did like 3, and then the rest was brand new. New joint. That's fly. OK, I didn't see. I'm reading the track list now. 6:15 I'm seeing Still Jackie, you know what I'm saying, and Give Me the World. Yeah, OK. Anything change about your recording process 6:24 today same same everything same process tunnel vision It's a lot going on with the hip-hop now. So a lot of different flows and different 6:32 the young guys is taking over. Mm-hmm, but your flow is timeless, bro Like that shit still sounds good today Stop 6:42 it man I mean your fan base gonna be a fan base. I'm just trying to pick up some new That's 6:59 how you supposed to do it when you get this. But it's a fact though, we don't know, it's a lot of shit going on. You know, however it's like, they have age now, they probably in a whole different 7:07 zone, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I feel like we're of age and we have money now. You know what I'm saying? Like if someone grew up 7:15 an AZ fan, like now, the $10, the 16, or 20 for the vinyl, whatever, the vinyl, 30, it's not a big deal. You know, say go to the show, pay a nice ticket price 7:23 to go to the show when you tour. Like, it's not like, your fans have money now. Let me put it that way. So we'll see then. And 7:31 you said your recording process is the same, but what is the process? Daytime, nighttime, a lot of tea. It's daytime. 7:40 Corona's. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, that been over the weed, the drinking, take it easy, I used to OD on the... It's 7:48 over, man. You got to check yourself. That's the skin, yo. Yeah, you got to check yourself. So I needed to clear mine, you know what I mean? Every time 7:56 we write, are we writing to the beat? Write to the beat, facts. Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact. That's harder or no? That's easier for me. I don't know everybody else like 8:04 the freestyle off the top. I mean, yeah, I write. You don't ever feel like popping up on none of these platforms where they do 8:12 the rapping like the Power 106 shit. On the radar. And just reminding these niggas, you're too humble for it. What are you doing? I mean, that ain't my zone. You, 8:20 you, nigga. I'm not the freestyle king. That's my zone. Doing? They don't be real freestyles Listen 8:30 I do the albums Take it easy like good. It's good like that for me. You know, I mean my son rapping now I can't I can't keep up with all 8:38 this, the hippity, I can't keep up. I can't keep up. So I'm gonna do me and see what comes out of it. There's no point in your 8:46 creating a record process where you think, you know what, maybe I do want to tap into, because there's a lot of messages you will still be able to get the younger audience 8:54 to gravitate to and understand, rinse and repeat some of the things that you went through as a young person, they're going through now. So do you ever think about putting 9:03 some messages into there for them today? Or you just kinda just like, I'm just talking to my folk. No, I'm just talking to the people. Nah. Just talking fly still, yeah. 9:11 That's it. It don't seem like you with this rapper stuff. What do you want me to do? It seems like you just got such a great gift. But 9:20 in terms of all the extras that come with it, you don't seem like you would. None of that shit. Yeah, I guess not. I mean, what's the extra shit so I can hear it? TikToks. 9:29 Help me out. Oh, okay. Instagram all that. Press. Marketing. I'm doing that now. I'm here. Yeah, but this don't count. This don't 9:37 count, this don't count. You're here with the niggas. I'm talking about being with somebody you don't like, like you like me. Right, right, right. Yeah, fuck with 9:45 you. Remind me of Malice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same energy, right? I would have to be next to somebody who's already done this and kind of got familiar 9:53 with it. I can see in a world where if you and Nas did a collab album or something, and then you guys had to go ahead and work around, 10:01 move around together, you might go ahead and play that game, but you just seem like you're so disconnected from the- I am, I ain't gonna lie. Bro. Come on, we just- It seems. I'm 10:09 about to go up in the game. Yeah, that's true. We've been in the game forever. But it just seem like a revenue stream. Like, y'all, I'm good at this, I'm a hustler, I'm gonna put this out, 10:18 it's another revenue stream. This niggas on fire, some bitch, man. Do you listen to anything that's out like that? Now, I listen to classics. 10:26 I listen to all the classics. Not nobody present, no. Everybody get busy, I listen to them. Man, You're listening to blue magic in your car Couple 10:37 of cats cheesy Think about cuz I always want to ask you this so is it 10:45 can you take us back to that Life's a Bitch verse for a minute? Greatest, like we said, greatest feature ever. Only feature on them at it. But 10:53 that wasn't premeditated. It was like I was just fucking with Nas because I met him going to the studio constantly. That wasn't even part of the plan. So 11:02 I think that was his last song. And I was in the studio. The beat was on and I was in my own zone. And he like, yo, what's that? I'm like, 11:10 man, get out of here. Because he already critically acclaimed. He already put songs out. I'm like, ah, get out of here. And he like, nah, I got spit it, I spit it. And then they went crazy. And I was like, wow, 11:18 you know, I didn't like my own voice. So when it happened, he kept it on the album. I was like, okay. Did you know how it was going, did 11:26 you have any inkling that was going to be received that way? I thought it was the album filler. I mean, it's rocked up, you know what I mean? I mean, that's him. Everybody was talking 11:34 about him already, right? Yeah. That shit ain't had no Phyllis. Word. Not a word. Not a word. Now that we know about it, yeah. Now. Yeah, 11:42 that's true. Years later. That's true. There's no party on... This is your man. All right. That's your guy. Right. But when you 11:50 attack, when you attack these records, like did you hear his verse first on that record? No. Y'all worked on it. Like I said, I 11:58 did my verse in the studio and then he did his. Smart. No, I mean he didn't know neither. That was his record. He just said, yo, hop on it. 12:07 That's it. But it seemed like every time y'all 2 get together, what is your favorite collaboration of both of y'all? Outside of the Life's a Bitch. That's Chico. Flyers. 12:16 I'm about to say the Flyers. Flyers. How You Living from Me. Oh, How You Living. How You Living is my shit. Flyers is my shit. Question for you honest 12:24 question shoot Do you feel if You weren't attached to Nas in a lot of people's 12:32 minds, your rap career would have been way more successful. No, no. It's where it's supposed to be. Like I said, my mishaps came 12:40 with dealing with the labels. Labels, mm-hmm. No, no, no, no, no. Not at all. He, I'm like a adopted child jumping from 12:48 family to family. He was, when he went to Sony, he stayed there. He's there, yeah. When whoever went where they was, they stayed there. You know what I mean? So they can develop what was needed. 12:56 And get a report. On me, I kept bouncing and bouncing, so you know what I mean? But did you not have the, not the information, 13:05 but I mean, who was your representation at the time to where we just keep ending up in that situation? Cause we was kids, we were just waiting 13:13 on, where's the shit? We didn't know nothing about none of that. What you mean, like, ended up in what situation? When you say from label to label to label to label. But it wasn't 13:21 by choice, right? Because EMI Folded, Virgin, they really was dealing with rap a lot. They wasn't dealing with East 13:29 Coast rap. So they didn't really know what to do with me, so they, I'm gonna give you your walking papers. Then when I went to Electra, I was working on an album, then 13:37 they, it was Jabyum, so then they got dissolved. So this is all by circumstance. So then I went to Motown, you know, they was dealing with the Erykah 13:45 Badu's and them. So it was cool, but I knew Kadar so I did it and they really you know There was more into that zone. So he was like, you know what nobody pigeon-held 13:54 me It was like, you know what take your walking papers most people they get sheltered. That's a blessing Got dropped It was just that y'all 14:02 had to go from spot to spot to spot. And I guess that just built my train of thought where like, you know what? That's when I went 14:11 independent and, well, they say independent with Koch, but they still, at that time it was like, we're gonna give you some money, but we're gonna charge you for every fucking thing. But 14:20 I learned, you know what I mean, I learned the game, and I just coasted, I've just been coasting, so that really probably helped me stay out the way. You know what I mean? 14:29 I'm seeing what's going on, I gotta watch it from a distance, but still do me. Still have the wear-thal or still do what I gotta do. We were having a conversation 14:37 earlier about age-appropriate music. Right. And what does it look like to age in hip-hop and still 14:47 rap your age? Like, where do you fall? Where do you stand on that? Is it difficult? To rap, I definitely rap my 14:55 age, but when you say that, who don't rap their age? Like I'm trying to gauge where you're coming from. Some people make it like people, it was an article. Yeah, it's like. My bad, I'm sorry. It was 15:04 not an article, an interview. And there was an interview with Jay and Jay said that a lot of times the older rappers start trying to fit into this young dude 15:12 bad. And they said, so he said it comes off as inauthentic to the listeners and to the fans. Like you trying to live this young boy, like it's not that, so it ain't 15:20 gonna resonate. That's why I stay in my zone, but yeah, you gotta rap your age, I think, right? Cause you gotta speak to your audience. So if you're an older cat and 15:28 you rapping like a young cat, that gonna show and prove that. It probably also how like your music was always pretty mature too. Like it never felt like you was chasing trends 15:36 even back in your dough or die and pieces of man and all that. Like you were making what you make, not chasing trends. So I feel like you never really had to deal 15:44 with that as much. I got a little push back on that. I never even thought about that shit though. That's crazy. I don't think about a lot of shit. Nah, and it seemed like to that point 15:52 that you wouldn't really fit that, because seemingly you ain't necessarily chasing the bag. You know what I mean? Of course money is a necessity in life, But it's 16:00 not like you out here trying to make this shit for the charts. I got something to do with it. Seemingly. Yeah, I felt my lane though, right? My lane 16:08 is I was able to do what I had to do with each label and then learn the game and You know save some paper with that and then start doing my 16:17 own thing. So that's where I'm at with it. You said you had pushback? I had pushback. I mean, it don't really matter. But I do think a 16:25 lot of artists that's still speaking that way, maybe 30, 40 plus, I don't think is disingenuous. I think some of these niggas really are 16:33 still in that mindset. They just frozen. Still frozen, still living that lifestyle. And they only really true are speaking to what they still experiencing. 16:41 A lot of niggas, and I heard them say that too, in your 20s and you ain't have no real money, and some of the things you wanted to do back then, you 16:49 now trying to relive in your 30s and 40s. So a lot of them do start to speak to that in their music because that's really what, it's like a rest of development to a certain degree. Yeah, but 16:58 all right, we're gonna take AZ for example. You talking about, and Sugarhill, I'm 17:06 envisioning these things, right? Let's say he got mega successful and now I got enough money to do all of this shit. Now instead of me saying, 17:14 yo, I'm envisioning me and my killer crew more hospital, like now me and my niggas is really doing all of the things that I outline. When you able to write, I'm thinking 17:22 that you could take those experiences and throw them into your raps. So you still are being genuine to who you are. You get what I'm saying? It's niggas that never touched no drugs in 17:30 their life, they'll be rapping about drugs and rapping about guns or that shit don't come off as Authentic and I think that's why some niggas Hold the position and niggas hearts 17:39 and minds that they hold because niggas could say yo he did that He could rap only did that only reason why I don't And I don't want to have this fight right now. 17:47 No, we're not. Only reason why, because I don't think that the person saying that, if the person doing that is successful while doing it, even if they 17:55 don't represent really living, he would have not signed the person. He'll still profit off of it. But We can leave it alone. If you can make the perfect 18:03 posse cut, who's on it? Oh shit, that's nice. Damn, that was a good 1. Shit, that's a good 1. How many people? All 18:11 right, 4. 4, we're doing too much. Posse cut, now or before right now. It's yours Wow, 18:22 I Would stay I would say Damn it's a lot of questions young old or in a manner On 18:35 the Jadon gonna be on it, Kendrick will be on it. Who else? I'll 18:45 put J on it. That's a hell of a posse cut. Hell yeah. Ju Nize, J and Kenji. It's probably somebody else. That's a good 1 though. 18:54 That's a good 1. That's a good 1. It'll be 1 more person. Just need a minute to think. Coming up, who was your favorite? Ra, 19:03 Kane, G-Wrap, Carr- I'm sorry, all of them is- All 4 of them? Yeah, yeah. G-Wrap, probably 2 more, KRS and Rick. Yeah. 19:12 You remember that first moment you wrote? The first moment I wrote? Yeah, the first time you picked up a pen and was like, you know what? I was young, probably like 10, 19:21 right? Just writing ABC 123 shit, but yeah, I remember that. What advice do you give your son? You said your son is rapping now. Just 19:29 stay focused. You get better with time, you know? He just really started probably like 3 years. He on it. My son, he 30 19:37 now. Yeah, actually when the album came out, he was born. So he been doing it probably like 4 years. God dang it. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I put 19:45 him on the album, so it's a good look. I wanna see how they embrace them. It'll be around forever, so it's a good look. That song, you know what 19:53 I mean? That's 1 of the things I'm gonna ask you about. With the new album, you got Feature vs. Jadakiss is on there. Right. Mumu Fresh is on there. Right. Mamoon 20:01 and Youssef. At this stage in your career, how do you decide who you wanna collaborate with? Nas is on there 20:10 too, by the way. Yeah. You know, you wanna collaborate with a lot of people, but like a lot of people is different. 20:18 A lot of people want some people want some paper. Some people want a lot of paper, especially when you want to deal with certain people. So I just try to keep it limited 20:26 to an extent. And then you want to deal with those that deal with you. You know what I mean? At the end of the day. So with this album, I just wanted to just be really me, because 20:34 it's like a remake, a kind of door-to-door, and it means a lot to me. So I think I got the right people, and I just want me to shine, you 20:42 know what I mean, on a joint with those that I respected. So yeah. Is there a rapper out there that 20:50 you say to yourself, like, before it's all said and done, I got to get 1 with him? I think I did all the collabs. I really wanted it with everybody, right? Right? 20:59 I think. I think. Yeah. Yeah, A.D. Don't give a fuck about these niggas. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. That's what I'm getting at. That's what I'm getting at. That's a fact. I 21:07 mean, I don't, I don't, right? That is what it is. I'm doing what I'm doing, man. I'm doing what y'all do. After 21:15 30 years of just being through the business and all the trials and all that, is there anything that changed about you, anything that you had to adjust to? 21:25 Anything that you've seen yourself change as a person? Oh, just learning to game more, because the game is fucked up when I first got in it, like 21:33 just contractual, you know, and just learning the ins and outs, and just learning to go with the punches and 21:41 shit, just figure the shit out. Like I ain't gonna stop. Just in me, not to stop, to keep going, and just being patient, because 21:49 I really was like a hyper guy. Even though I'm cool right here, I'm cool on camera. I'm cool like a motherfucker on camera, but that's really not my demeanor, 21:57 but it comes off on camera. But just to get to this space, you know, take time. But if you really know me, like you, like, I'm 22:06 here but- You don't do the pause game and all that shit? No, I mean, it's cool. I understand it. But I mean, I get it. I see a lot of shit. I watch, I understand, but 22:15 I think I'm just different. Like, you know, I respect everything. You know, Everybody gonna respect my movement too. Everybody feel good after that. That's 22:23 it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Real old heads that work. I promise you old heads be coming home, they be like, it sound just like you. 22:32 Listen, bro, listen. I don't do that. We just try to get some paper and live and chill. That's it. Nothing else. Mama, business, 22:40 my, y'all. Yeah, I'm in that zone. So what's on your bucket list? Oh, man, now it's time to just get into the business. I think I missed a lot 22:48 of money being like this, and now I wanna get in the, it's crazy, now I wanna get in the mix. I wanna get, it's a lot of money going on with the streaming, with this shit. I see it, 22:56 but how do I attack it? You know what I mean? Like, how can I still be myself and attack it? So that's why, and then seeing my boy do what he do is like, 23:05 just time to just do bigger and better shit now. Anything you got your sights set on outside of the streaming music stuff? Oh man, everything, right? I 23:13 mean, when I say that, just everything that brings in. You're fucking with me? Revenue. You're fucking with me? I'm there now, you know what I mean? I'm there, I'm there. That 23:22 and whatever else I could do that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah. I know I'm vague with a lot of shit, but I... I got to break the 23:30 ice a little bit. As interviewers, we realize that. You got me. We realize that. You did that. Nice little bit, that's all. You did that 10 minute singing. We know it. 23:38 We know it. You got it. No, but it is what it is, man. Fuck it. Are we ever gonna find out the real reason, like the 23:46 real behind the scenes shit with the firm, like we need a firm doc. Yes. We don't really know what happened, we just kind of accepted it. No, no, 23:54 when you say that, it was a firm album, it was a one-off, like we wasn't signed where it's going to be 1, 2, and 3, So we did 24:03 what we did and whatever happened happened and everybody went back their own ways, right? Cause everybody had their own careers. We all took time out 24:11 of that to do that. It was a lot of cooks in the kitchen. It was a lot, cause you know, you think about everybody, manager, producers, labels involved, which is so much shit. And it's 24:19 like, now I think it'd be better to do it now. Now that we all got our own shit and we know the business, I think now. But 24:27 then it was just chaotic. Are you still in communication with everybody? Yeah, yeah, I still dialogue with everybody. That was a good way to ask what I was thinking she 24:46 loves you like I've seen her interviews she speak to you real high regard She should she should be jumping back in the game soon Were 24:56 you always in communication with everyone? Oh, I was yeah, but everybody was but everybody like everybody like it's the beef. Yeah, 25:04 he was a messy name. I don't know what somebody tell me. What did you use to talk about? He took tone. He took tone. Stop taking tone. I'm doing it at the rim, Joe. You gotta dunk it. 25:12 You gotta dunk it. Don't get fucked. I need to know. No, because he's so noble and like. No, but I'm really not. This is the front. I 25:20 told y'all to fuck everybody up with. It Used to be rumors about how you might have felt about asco Nate 25:31 Wait, you said I thought about who? Everybody know I don't give a fuck, so I'm the wrong 1 to say that. I don't know about 25:39 everybody else. Why would I ever care? I'm getting my money, I'm doing me. Can never care about nothing that going nowhere. As long as I get mines, I'm cool. Oh yeah, they 25:47 gonna clip this on, I see. I never give a fuck. Nah, but I fuck with everybody. Really, I respect, I'm always gonna get minds, but I can never think, yo, that 25:55 never my thought, never my life to care about what nobody getting or whatever, I'm too busy living my life and too busy doing what I'm doing to try to perfect myself. I can never think about, 26:04 this nigga more shining than me. He doing, I don't give a fuck. I know what come with everything. So hopefully he could deal with whatever coming with it. I know you said it was a one-off. Right. 26:12 But to me, that album was great. Oh, I love that. I know that it might've got backlash for the commercial shit. There was a couple of misses 26:20 on there, but it was overall a major part of the project. I thought that was a great project. Okay. Dre and Trackmasters. Like 26:28 it was so great. I just feel like why wouldn't you ever try to come back? It'd be come back. And it felt so good when Nas brought 26:36 everybody back. Yeah. But see, back then it was the game, the financial game. So now If 26:45 they say, I'm just talking now, because allegedly, if they say we made too many to make the album, but we owe 10 million to Recoup, right? 26:53 So if the album never Recoup, they feel like it's, we're talking about business-wise, now it's a failure, right? So why would we do it again? But knowing Now what we know when 27:01 they were selling albums, y'all made 30 million, right? When you think about it now, we know we're selling physical singles, CDs, vinyl. We know y'all made some 27:09 money, all right, cool, but they could have ran that game back then, but now we know better, right? We get it, but it is what it is, you know what I mean? So business-wise, 27:19 it wasn't probably good to do it. Yo, that got to be some shit. The conception is that it wasn't worth going back and doing. I remember when Dre said the shit. 27:27 When Dre said the shit, the firm flop, We instantly thought, all right, that wasn't a success. How did you feel even hearing that? Oh, when Dre's at it? 27:35 Yeah. What, that forgot about Dre? Yeah. Don't care about none of that. It ain't nothing. Everybody talking, don't mean nothing. So what we 27:44 know What it did, if it sold like 3000000, you time that time, we know what it's made like now? I mean, what it 20 years later? Yeah. 27:52 It ain't a flop, by far. No. It's probably charged all types of bullshit on the account. 2000000 sold, it's 2000000 sold. Right. You could 28:00 say what you want to say to me. The math is the math. And Firm Biz probably. I mean, yeah, Firm Biz and Phone Tap probably sold. And then Singles. Phone Tap. All type of shit. 28:09 That's what it is. Phone Tap still play. That's a classic. Yeah. Undeniable. What was that process working with him? Because they said Drake, they said he really, 28:17 really like a stickler in the studio. Like, he going to make you re-record now? No. They going to get it. I don't know what to do. Listen, I'm following all that, 28:25 but it was love. I don't know what The world is crazy to me. I don't know what it was all love when we was in there. It was love. It 28:33 came out, it was actually, we probably did that in like 2 hours. He mixed it. I guess for the records that I was on, shit went smooth. I 28:41 don't witness none of that shit. I just don't witness none of that. It's just- You don't play none of the politics game. I can tell you that. I really don't, but. That nigga is silent. I 28:49 see how his name is just, I get it. I totally get it. I don't get it sometimes, I don't get 28:57 it. The perception for a lot of things is really like smoke and mirrors, but that's the game we in and I understand that and sometimes I'd be hard to play that 29:05 game for me But I get it, you know, you still got to do it with elegance. You know, I mean so Yeah, I'm back out Never 29:14 had an uncool moment Where's your uncool moment? You're singing 29:22 in belly? Fucking coolest moment in the world. Yo, yo, yo. I'm about to blow up. Anything else is a crash out. 29:31 What you want from me? Yeah, you got the fuck out of there, little niggas. He said it. Yo, so I got 1 gripe about the Firm album. And I don't want to be phony, so 29:39 I'll just tell you what he's telling me. I didn't like that shit Cannabis did on that album. Cannabis. What? What? What did you like about that? He got busy. 29:47 He went crazy in there. What you mean? He went a little too crazy for me. Nigga, that's what you're supposed to do. That's what you're supposed to do. No, no, no. You want me to confirm that? 29:55 He went too crazy. I'm not going to confirm that. No, nigga. No, nigga. What are you supposed to do? You're crazy. I'm going to show my ass right now. He's on the 30:03 phone, he's got to get busy. He tried it, he tried it. He did it. No nigga, he ain't. He got busy. He did it. He got busy. I felt like they let him 30:11 get that shit off. What were they supposed to do, rerun their shit? You know who the fuck they is? Yes. Yo, let me ask you a question. What the fuck was he supposed to do? And they gave that nigga the first verse and they gave him the first 30:19 verse. If I bring you on the features, I'm gonna see some shit. Nah, he's gonna get busy, right? Why would I want you to have a bad verse on a album like this? That's your mind, yo. 30:28 What you woulda did if they'da gave you a verse? Right, you. Who? You, nigga. I'da wrote the verse of my lifetime Verses rewriting 30:48 verses. Thank God. I haven't been around none of that. The whole 4-3-2-1-L-L-L, cannabis shit all that. Niggas get funny with the 30:56 fouls. Niggas are saying you're a dummy verse too. You think that's the verse they're gonna have? You never heard another verse and rewrote your verse, tell truth. Never, I 31:04 never did it, honestly. You always so cool. That's what I did, I never did it. Joe, you did that? No. Oh, but I did it, but he ain't done 31:12 it. Yo, you're lying, yo, you've told us that you rewrote your shit before. Yeah, I remember that record with Fab when you had to rewrite, I remember. I don't know what y'all talking about. I 31:20 don't know what. We all remember the title. He got outstanding. It was a surprise to me when I got in the music 31:28 business and I started spending time in the studio with people, that people would do that. I always thought you put your best foot forward, you lay it 31:37 and you live with the results. Once I saw people was getting funny and changing verses and yada, I was like, oh shit. So I made it a point to say, 31:45 I never wanna be that guy. That's for real, yeah. So I didn't do it. Right, right, but I mean it crossed my mind I also ain't got fucking mad nauseous 31:54 But then I don't fuck with a lot. I don't get on a lot of people's songs So I really probably that's why I probably have to go through that. I don't get on a lot of people's songs. You know what's funny about that? 32:02 Like I'm listening to the fucking lady remix. Oh yeah. And I'm like, why don't we have more fucking AZRB shit? 32:13 Can we? I love it. I love the grown and sexy. That was my shit. You listen to the new R&B today, that was my shit. They 32:21 listen to their old j- It's not out, really. Nah, it's some good old shit out. It's been a wave of really good shit last couple years. Leon, 32:30 Lucky Day, Kehlani. Some good shit out there. For the features you have, has anyone ever, have you ever, after it was over, been like, damn, they got me? You 32:39 said rap and then on a song. What other artists you feel like they versed? He don't even understand that shit. I know. He's like, I wouldn't even. What got me mean to me? What you mean? What you mean? 32:47 What you mean? What you mean by God? I don't know, I think I'm playing, but I don't, yeah. You ain't never been like, yo, they got shit. They verses. If it's they wreck it and they got 32:55 off, they supposed to. I never thought of that. And then, nah, I just never thought like that. Damn, that's fucked up? No. No. 33:03 I'm probably right. I never did. A rap, we write raps when I sleep. So you got that, next time I get up, I don't fucking know. Next time I 33:11 do it, it's rap. Right. He's unbothered. Speak to me about the greatness of Half a Mill, man. Oh man, half. Rest in peace, 33:20 half. Half was ahead of his time. For sure. He was ahead of his time. When I met him, he just had that, that graspy voice and, and he 33:28 needed more albums. He needed more time. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Cause how old was he when he passed? Not sure about that, but I guess we was all like, we was in 33:36 our late twenties I think. Not sure. That's when hip hop was just. Yeah, yeah. Money will really fuck and corrupt some shit up. Like back 33:45 then yo. This guy's a good guy. You said money fuck it up? There you go, there you go Martin. You said money fuck it up? Yeah, because back then, 33:54 it seems like niggas was just doing it for the sport to be the best of the best. I'll tell you, like a clue tape came out, nigga went and got a car wash, an outfit, 34:02 a new surgery, a new tequilin, some sneakers, like that shit was just different, yo. And it just seems like when the money start getting in the business, rightfully so, niggas 34:10 should be chasing their people, but in trying to learn the business, but I guess in learning the business, you gotta move, see, it's like boxing, like 34:18 nowadays they are more in control of their finances. So the fights we might wanna see as fans, they're like, no, nigga, 34:26 I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm gonna fight, fucking pack you out in year 20, we can get 300 million. That's the her feet part. The her feet part 34:35 is the niggas who laid the groundwork for hip hop being that competitive and keeping shit. A lot of them aren't able to come back and reap the rewards. So for you to be able to 34:43 in the space now to go ahead and see the, everybody from the 90s should at least get a check So today at this point for at least 34:51 laying some union Some of these niggas look bad Every 35:09 time I see you look fresh. Some of these niggas ain't doing that. AD is still 1 of the best dressed rappers. Yo. That's crazy. Bro, I ain't gonna say exactly what, but This nigga 35:17 be bonding with niggas from back then in the craziest ways. This is different. Bro, I was outside. This nigga's different, yo. He set some shit 35:25 on the side. Yo, remember me from middle school? I know what he talking about. I know what he talking about. I know what he talking about. I know what he talking about. But no, dog. I'm 35:33 talking about these niggas. These niggas look bad. Bro, these niggas look bad. I've talked that a lot. OK. Yo, you a wild boy, yo. Yeah, I think so. This nigga, yo. 35:42 Come on, get out of here, yo. This nigga over there, You ain't eat the cheese, you right at the track. You right there, this nigga's a 35:50 wild boy. I wanna play the joint. I wanna play the joint. ["I'm So High, High, High"] What up? You sound so smooth. 35:58 ["I'm So High, High, High, High"] So fresh. ["I'm So High, High, High, High"] I'm so high, high, high, high, so high, 36:07 high, high. And you still in your groove. You still in your groove right here. The car wash for this. High, 36:15 high, high, so high, so high, high, high Look at the news, 36:23 look at the news, job done On top of the globe, angel on top of the rose The president shootin' coptin' and gold-stoppin' Behold the flyers, you can bet 36:31 it's only brums, despised Best believer, month of some son with the iges, 1 of the nicest Sugar hills, still real, no rices Bigger bills, lip-shielding is 36:39 likeness To God, heaven, to hell, a destiny tale You in the cut, sizing me up, just measure me well Sat in repel, black patent leather Chanel's 36:47 double-breasted As if I asked if finessing it well I made it, upgraded, street slang can never be jaded Mention me, speak my name with your face, missy 36:55 lady I lasted, any perpetrator push past it Chasing paper, I'm a part of the classics, they listen It's faced with any major decisions, just 37:04 know I'm straight You're the neutral button So high, so high It's just got a classic feel to it, man. Yo. This 37:12 shit's tough. I get the car wash. Word. This is tough. What else can we expect from the new joint? Oh man, just, this 37:22 is, to me, this is my ilmatic, right? I just feel like I was in my bag and I got across what I wanted to get across. And being Door Dive was 37:30 my first album. And to really do it 30 years later. It just show you where I'm at mentally on this 1. So I just feel great about it. Do you 37:38 or are you trying to get back like your masters and all that shit for Door Dive being that it's probably about time. Yeah, my masters, I had them back in a couple of months. 37:46 Oh, okay, dope. Oh, shit, I'm fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Older than the classic. How you gonna celebrate? We release that motherfucker. We release it. We celebrate. Do 37:54 you celebrate? Yeah. I mean, I'm just, you know what? I know nowadays it's like lights, camera, action, and maybe I got to get out my 38:02 my own way, but definitely I'm living life I'm really chillin in reality. I'm really well. I didn't say that I'm good, but I do 38:11 Need to just do more and that's why I'm here right as long as I'm here. It's never too late right so You know Play 38:20 man Yeah, yo you seem Super solid right is it hard nowadays because again 38:28 even though you're in your own zone, You can still see how niggas move a little bit. Is it hard for you collaborating with niggas that you might not? Think 38:37 are as solid you saying collaborate like make songs. Yeah, whatever business songs, you know, I mean like Doing business you 38:45 still want to do business with solid people, right? So if I don't find someone solid to do business with, I'm not gonna do business with. You know what's gonna be the business with. But on the artistry side. Artistry, shit, 38:57 rap, stay there, whoever I'm gonna fuck with, I'm gonna reach out, if I get any pushback, okay, right? I understand it, right? Some people just probably ain't in the head 39:05 space or they doing too much. So I really, it is what it is, but I'm not too gun-hole about doing a bunch of features. So that's not in my 39:13 mind, but I know There's artists out there that I really do like and wanna fuck with, so I will be reaching out. God willing, it'll happen. 39:22 I'ma be the nigga to do it, fuck it, man. When you first got into the game, young, making money, women 39:32 might be like, you know what, it's the new guy, trying to see, what was your experience like getting into the game and just having to deal with some of the women that was a part of the business? That's regular 39:40 shit, man. That's life. That's life. Easy shit. That's life. That's too cool. That was before rap. Don't worry about that. Word. 39:49 It had that technique, girl. The whole detail, I'ma sell the book, man. I'll write the book. There you go. There you go. Snakes are too solid. You ever snake some money? Just 39:58 got straight to the solid, bitch. Yeah, I'm trying to understand it. That's not the world I think I've just, I've always been focused, right? That's just it. 40:07 I make goals for myself and try to achieve. So it ain't about being solid. I just like, I'm not going into the snake pit, right? I'm from Brooklyn, So we know the snake 40:15 pit. I'm not going there. I understand about the women and how they give it up I understand about what you talking about. So It's just 40:24 clear that yeah, if you can who gave like We ain't talking enough about the childhood and all that right Who gave you this type of 40:32 demeanor, this energy? Was it a street thing? Was it a family thing? Was it like just- Just growing up in Brooklyn. Good question. Yeah, that's Brooklyn. You gotta figure it out early when you're in 40:40 Brooklyn. And it stays with you, that's it. Yo, I remember you had some issues with the name. 40:49 Oh, yeah. Back in the day. Right. How did y'all resolve that? I think he said he got some money. He sued, yeah, yeah, he sued the label. I don't know, he didn't 40:57 get it from me. No, he sued the label. But what was the issue? OK. No, no, I said he sued the label. Listen, I'm saying, he didn't get it from me. He probably got 41:05 it from the label, but that's my name, right? I still say it, so I guess if he got some paper from them, he couldn't use the name again. I 41:13 don't even know the particulars, but yeah. Oh, I got it, my bad. I put it together. No, no, no. I'm good. We playing chess here. What's going 41:21 on? Nah, nah, nah. I just had to put it together. I just asked the questions I always wanted to know. So 1 of the things I think for me, growing up listening 41:30 to you, was you was 1 of the rappers of that era that was really putting 5% nation on the map. That's true early, you 41:38 know, saying, you know, even in that verse, how did the 5% nation shape who you were both as a rapper and just 41:46 as a person. It gives you knowledge of self, it gives you a foundation to build on. So I guess that's a part of it with the street shit that enables 41:54 me to be who I am. You're right, that's it. I don't hear it. Thank you for that, A$AP. That's it. I don't hear much of it no more. 42:02 That's what I'm saying. There was a time where like from Digable Planters to Bust to the, I mean to everybody, like there was just so much of it and I don't think I- That was the era, of course, blame it on Rod Kim again. 42:11 Yeah. What was this- Wildest Captain is a hush hush. What was this shit on Dora the- Which 1? Where the girl be just ooh. What song is that? Does she say the shit throughout the whole 42:19 thing? We need a little more than that. What she doing? What she doing? Hey, yo. You want me to clip me up, nigga? The girl was like, ooh. It's 42:31 all 5% of shit. I know what you're talking about. Come on, give AZ some more to go up. No, no, no, no. At least 2 bars. 42:40 He's not uncut raw. No, it's not uncut raw. It's all right. I feel for you. Who was 42:48 the feature on there? Nah, see. That's the wrong song was just me Do the who again? Yeah Okay 42:58 So now I'm talking about with 3 of us. Yeah, he was my man a more and boss Sean. Yeah It's tabbing to some 43:06 information on that. Yeah societies is this 1? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was It was new information at that time. That shit 43:14 was just a different thing back then. Now niggas be talking to Illuminati shit and all that, but them niggas in 96 and 97, nobody wants to talk about it. Cutting 43:22 edge of that shit. You made him join the nation. Oh what? I never joined the nation. I thought you did. My man, I thought you did. You gonna join now? 43:30 Just a play fiend. We all join in together. He's just a play fiend. 1 of the things I enjoy, I most enjoy when 43:38 watching you perform is your breath control. Like that's the thing, I watch the older niggas and how they get the words out. Y'all 43:47 niggas sound great. Kane? Like you're breathing. Kane is 1 of the illest. Kane sound, locks. Oh yeah, Kane get busy, yeah. And he had, and some of the 43:55 Kane raps is faster. Like kissing them, they rap don't, Kane be, I'll make a muscle, grab the mic. No, no, he still dancing. I'm about to tell you, he's dancing. That's the 44:03 1, That shit is hard. Yeah, he even dropped the mic the same way when he performed. Yeah. You think he doing that now? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's still doing it now. 44:11 He's still doing it. Yo, they changed the performance with him with Schoolboy Scrap, 1 of them. Yeah. The niggas did the split and the whole shit. Oh, wow. I 44:19 got to see that. I got to see that. They get in their 60s Doing all that shit. I'm like He gotta be if I'm 50 he gotta be yeah. Yeah, 44:27 he gotta be yeah So you're not Like what do you do to stay in that type of shape like conditioning wise? Oh, I work out a little bit at the crib 44:36 57 no, I bumped into you. It was solid Sometimes 44:45 I don't fuck with elevators as much so I'm always on the stairs So I guess that probably do it. Why why is he don't fuck with elevators? Never 45:08 how many times once twice That's a nitro-phobia. That's a fact. You said nitro-phobia. That's a nitro-phobia right there. Every time I get in the elevator, they get stuck. How many times you been stuck? Never. How many times? Once or twice. Once or twice. 2 or 3 times. I never been stuck. Over never. Over 10 times. 45:16 How long you been in? For real? Oh, the longest I ever been in was a little while from the Jets. That's great. We did night. Yeah, they fixed 45:24 them shit The funny thing is I was eating that katana in LA 1 time I was staying at the Mondrian but I went across the street to get something to eat. Right. 45:32 And the whole fucking lights shut out at the mandria and then the elevator just got stuck for like 5 hours. That's nasty. That's 45:41 what happened. You was in the elevator? No, I was across the street eating. Oh. I was eating. They got to us. No, no, I was across the street. I was stuck in 1 for 4 hours, though. What? Oh, yeah, that would make 45:49 me take this up. That's crazy. What was you, was other people there? I was with 1 person, 1 of the homies, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 4 hours, man. That's some mother. Was your phone working? 45:57 Man, I had no phone back then. No, back then. Oh, it was back in the day. Oh, shit. I mean, that's an issue, 4. And Then, actually, I was out here in Fort Lee. 46:05 I got stuck for like 2 hours in 1. Sheesh. That's a lot of time to fuck elevators. Here we go. So if I can take the stairs, I'm going to take them. If not, I 46:13 got to get on. Work on your heart. Fuck it. I'm good. I'm with you, man. I'm good. I ain't nothing. 6 hours in elevators, I'm walking through. I'm taking this seriously. 46:22 What's 1 thing that you would like for people to know about you that they just don't know and would never know without you telling them? I'm a good person, man. I like getting money. Man, let's 46:30 get some money come fuck with your boy he 46:46 lied You more layered than this. It's something. It's something there. It's all good, man. I may figure it out. Money 46:57 hoes are closed. Figure it out. Figure it out, man. We excited about this album, bro. I'm looking forward to it. I hope the 47:05 people's embrace it I hope we hope it open more doors. Listen, this is no no, I'm sorry to cut you off But I was able to ask you what's your favorite 47:13 out rap album all time if you have to pick. Give me 5. Paid in full, long lived the king, wanted 47:22 dead or alive, America's most wanted. Damn! Criminal minded, fuck it. There you go. That's a good 47:30 5. That's a good 5. Nice 5. Fire go wrong with that. That's a great vibe. That's a nice what? You gotta be from forever to know that. I know they probably, people hear this, but we ain't talking about that. Well, they dead 47:38 or alive. What the fuck? They know? If you had to pick 1 song to play for somebody that doesn't know what hip hop 47:46 is, to represent hip hop, what song would that be? We asked that up here a few times. That's cool. Probably Roll 47:55 to the Riches. For me. Roll to the Riches. We all want to roll to the Riches. You know what that is? Yes, I do. I know you know. Oh, OK. Roll to the Riches of 48:03 B. That'll be nice. That'll be nice. You know what that is? You know what? No. He ain't seen B Street. He's young. 48:11 He's never seen B Street before. I'm not young. I'm not young. He's the same age as I am. We're the same age. We're the same age. Never seen B Street. He just likes all the young people. 48:19 You barely know what that is. And I ain't going to lie. You might have stole your brother's CD back in the day. You barely know. I got to hold a brother, thank God. What's the cliche answer? Juicy, right? Message. My answer would be the message. My answer would be juicy. 48:31 Mine is the message. I don't think it's cliche. I think it's the right answer. No, mine is the message. That's the right answer. That ain't wrong. That's good. That's a good 1. 48:39 Yeah. Yeah, that's a good 1. Yeah, that's a great answer. That's a great answer. For me, it's Juicy, but I get it. Juicy or Troy? Juicy or Troy. Troy is 48:47 a good 1. Troy is a good 1. And Troy. Yeah. That's a tough 1. Juicy or... That's the 1. You should do a record with Pete Rock, like 48:56 a whole project. That would be a good collab for you. I'd definitely fuck with Pete. Yeah, that'd be a synergy there. Yeah, I mean, he did what, 2 or 3 on Door of Dice, 49:04 so. He just did a Carmenhammer, right? Yeah. That was solid. That would be hard. That would be tough. Would you do a tiny desk? 49:12 Yeah, I want to do that shit. I want to do that. You should. I Definitely want to do that. You got to see people and talk. Yeah, I know. I'm going to get there, 49:20 right? I'm here now. How long you been up here? Up here? How long have I been 49:28 here? Oh, 10 years. Right, this is the first time in here, like that's crazy man. Yeah. I just assumed that, well I knew that you 49:36 didn't want to talk to me. I do, I'm talking, I'm gonna get better, right? Hopefully I get better, but for now I'm putting my best foot forward. Where you stand, 49:45 Do you watch any of the verses when they happen? Like, do you keep up with the current? I kinda, yeah, I did see a couple of verses. I'm trying to think which verse that I saw. I 49:53 saw a couple of them. I saw the Jada joint with Dipset. Of course, everybody saw that. Hip-hop history, that's a legend. I saw the Gucci and Jeezy joint. I saw 50:01 that 1. I saw fat Joe and Yes, I saw a couple of them. Yeah, I keep up I don't be 50:09 immersed I'm be immersed in my phone like that so much, but I need to right so that's why I gotta break the ice On 50:19 Sunday when your phone Give you the screen time the hours you've been on the screen, what did yours say? I saw that 1. I should be like an hour. 50:28 An hour, 16 minutes. I be seeing that shit. For a week? I believe him. I 50:37 believe him too. I'll probably go on the now show. Yeah, probably. I'll write. That's when they show you. Weekly or daily? Weekly. Weekly. That's 50:45 healthy. That's healthy. That's healthy. That's more than healthy. Is that good or bad? That's great today. No, that's excellent. Mine should be like 13 hours a day. You doing business though. You got to do that shit, keep up the good work. You doing the 50:53 right shit. No, I'm doing the best. I would have to take this. You're right. Look at my ass. 51:02 What's your guilty pleasure then? How much she cost? Oh shit. What's your guilty pleasure then? We got them now. Yeah, they got to be soft. We got them now. I guess sometimes I be spending money I shouldn't be spending. Oh fuck, 51:10 yeah. Yeah, that's fucked up. He's not folding, y'all. Nah, nah, nah. I wonder what y'all looking for. It's fucked up. What's your vice? What's your vice? Making money, 51:22 nigga. I should be spending 51:34 You married no, I'm married I should be though. That's why it's getting a good like this. I want to be. Yeah. You do want to be. That's not rush. You can marry soon. Hopefully. Hopefully I'll get married. No, 51:51 because I was about to get into some other shit. So what's like a, what's like, nah, I hate that I'm about to ask you this. What's like your 51:59 perfect date? You got I was making money. You're good. You're good. Why do 52:07 y'all keep acting like this? That's faggots. That's hilarious, this show. That's crazy, man. I fucked 52:15 up that I'm a motherfucker out of Digg for shit. I'm like, what up there? What's wrong, man? We're talking about love. You got yo, we need some man. 52:24 I guess that's the life we in, though. I get it. Because we ain't this solid. Yeah, we not. We not. But see, my thing is, my thing is, my thing is I probably 52:32 don't do the things y'all do, right? So your definition of solid is, whatever you're doing, as long as you do it solid, whatever you're gonna do, do that shit to 52:40 the fullest. And tell me the last time you was putting your pants on and tripped. I gotta get this nigga back. Tell 52:51 me when you bumped your knee at the end of the fucking bed and you was in the house screaming nigga. I feel like I ain't good enough. I feel like I ain't good enough for hip hop games. You 53:00 slipped in the shower and thought it was about to be over. That's crazy. That's crazy. I don't believe that. 53:08 I don't believe that. That's crazy. I don't believe you got a vacation spot or something where you want to go ahead and try it. Never say that. Yeah, 53:16 we all got a vacation. The words fly. Why would I blow that up right now? That's not an answer. That ain't an answer. What's your biggest regret? Biggest 53:26 regret? I know it's going to sound weird, but I think when I was transitioning from EMI to Virgin, 53:37 Def Jam presented something to me, you know, a great deal and I ain't take it. I kind of regret that to an extent, but life goes on. When did you realize 53:45 you made the wrong choice? Damn, that's where you're supposed to be. I mean, just as time went on, you get it? Because after that, like I said, I went to Virgin, I went there, I went to Moe Town, but 53:53 I went to the Def Jam, and it was when it was popping, 2 years, they was popping at that time. Why didn't you go? That's when the more was there. Got 54:02 more money somewhere else? No, no, no. It wasn't the money, right? It was more or less like in my ear. You know, yo, they're gonna fold soon. Don't go over there. You ever just came out of that situation? 54:10 You know, there's always somebody in your fucking ear. It's like, ah, shit. That's the key. Keep motherfuckers out your ear. You know what I mean? So, yeah, that's 54:18 the only regret. Is there a song that you hear or have heard that you wish 54:26 you would have had? You ever hear a song and be like, I wish I had had that beat? Yeah, the beat. I probably would have thought that when 50 54:35 dropped that first song in the club. That shit was crazy. Woo! That was 1 of them, yeah. That was 1 of them, man. I was like, I almost had to have that shit at that 54:43 time. No, but when you said y'all knew that record was coming, I was like, oh, I gotta deal with this. You know, that record. Undeniable. Yeah, that was it. 54:51 Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. So simple. Do it, do it. Doom, doom, doom. No, that was the 1. That was it. That was it. 55:00 They needed that G-U. They had great beats over there. Yes they did. Yo, that shit was on a commercial first though. What, the beat? Was it? I don't 55:08 remember that commercial. It was a perfect marriage though, cause it wasn't, when you heard that hook coming. That shit was different, bro. It made the beat make even more sense. Somebody could have fucked 55:16 that beat up. If you had to, I know we're too cool to do it, 55:25 but if you had to do a national ad campaign for a company, What 55:33 company would you feel comfortable doing it for? Yo 55:45 man, I'm not getting the fuck out of here, man. What y'all been doing? I'm not getting out of here, man. No, that's not true. You don't be lying, nigga. You don't be lying, nigga. He could want 55:53 you to say Budweiser or some shit. Or he could say Cork-45 or something. Y'all doing some stupid shit, nigga. Man, nigga. That's who I am. That's who I 56:02 am. That's the terrible, right? The evil 1. You right. And it always represented. Yes. You know? No, that's perfect. I give up, man. Nah, that's perfect. 56:10 Nah, you're killing it. That's true, by the way. I was fucking it up. You're killing it. You're killing it. Are you gonna tour with the album? Can't wait. Word. When last time you been on 56:18 tour? Tour, tour. I'm always doing shows, but tour, I haven't been on tour in a minute, probably a year, 2 years. So 56:26 you already got it booked or no? Well, I'm on an overseas tour like in August, I think, September. But on this side, as 56:35 of yet, no. Do you still like touring? How have you felt about touring throughout your career? It's cool. It's a consistency of 56:43 stress, but it's cool. Keep you busy What's the best part about What's the worst part? The best part is the stage. The worst part is traveling from fucking 56:52 spot to spot. You like the stage. You like performing. Stage is the best part of the whole shit. What's the difference in the reception 57:01 from performing over here compared to over there? You know over there they're going to show more love because they don't see you 57:09 as much, but yeah, that's the difference. What do you get out of being on stage? What's the thing that, what do you love about it? Just feel like you're in your own world, 57:17 right? You're just doing your own thing. Then when you get that vibe, it's over. Like you just get in the zone when you're in that stage, you're getting busy after the third song, you're just 57:25 in a zone, it's a different zone. You ain't even, you just levitating. Yeah, what do you love to perform live the most? Well, 57:37 on this side of course, on this side of the coast, New York is always good, LA show love, the East Coast 57:46 is always good though to me. Is it a song in particular you like to perform? Always the 57:54 top 5, which is probably like, Sugar Hill, Life's a Bitch, Phone Tap, The come up, problems, you 58:02 know what I mean, like that, because it's just... Problems that shit, boy. That's how you feel, yo? What? 58:10 Like when you be performing, you just feel like you in another space. Because you ain't particularly like performing, though, sometimes. No, I love performing. I didn't 58:18 like all the shit that came with it. Bad diet, bad food, bad fucking living conditions. Can't sleep right there. Yeah. 58:26 It's the biggest adrenaline high. For sure. Is being on stage. Really? Yeah, not even close. It's nothing close, honestly. Outside 58:35 of some other shit, but... Y'all have you took this on live and been on stage doing this? What y'all doing? We've 58:43 done it before, not this crew, but this podcast has toured before a few years ago. And we play that 1 now. Yeah, y'all should do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 58:52 Nah, we good. We good. You can't put the kibosh on it. I'm Patreon only. Yeah, no, we toured when it was 59:00 out. That's back when we had 2 other calls. It's too many people now. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. They all got fancy riders. 59:08 Holy shit. And they all, some of them never hit the road before, so some of them think they make a lot of money on the road. So they don't know about that. That's fucked up, yo. Seriously. 59:17 They don't know about that taking the shorts shit on. You owe me. Hey, there's a Tuesday that's free between fucking Waukesake and 59:26 you're gonna fill that date in. We're gonna have to take the short. That's a fact. That's a fact. Sure enough, now. I think you old niggas are good tour-er. Routings, tour routing. 59:34 It get tricky. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, Ice? Well, don't worry, we eliminated that. We're not touring. Like, we don't have to. There you go. We're not touring. Yeah, y'all should do 59:42 that. They should do like, just 5 cities. Just 5 dates. Y'all vibe is appreciate. That's what I said. You know what I'm saying? Like, just 5 cities. No, yesterday I picked 5 59:51 cities to do like a fireside chat. It's just going to be me. And the fire. Yo, 59:59 book me for a fireside chat. Fireside, bud. You'd be mad if I did a fireside bod. Okay, 1:00:07 okay, okay. All right, let me see, let me see, let me see. So album comes out May 8th. May 8th, Door, Die, 3. Looking 1:00:15 forward to it. I just put out uniqueness which is fire by the way Rather unique 1:00:23 you play nothing I was enjoying talking to my brother. I'm going to AZ playlist baby. Don't play with 1:00:31 me A tiny desk with all this yeah Come on gotta happen. Feel 1:00:39 like some Bobby Wal-Mack shit. Say show up and show out. Sneaker hoarder, relationships sinking 1:00:48 in water 2 sons got chipped, 1 of their daughter New guns, bumpin' it, my niece dead, the older Bomb coach, a whole aura still MC 1:00:56 Ultra Hooded roach, a sippin' bomb punch, sunk in the sofa 1 blunt, was on a hunt, tryna jump in some chocha Young Sosa, soloist, seeking 1:01:04 a salam Hitting sonics on my first album, speaking in rhymes Peek-a-doodle-doodle, fashion trends keep me from styling Handsome, then super slim, try to 1:01:12 sleep with the stallions Henny gallon, no demis, my penis is pallid Far from friendly when you rent, let's get you sent to the Allen Real silent, try 1:01:20 to leave alone wings and bones Pocket Allen with these thrones, I'm the king of the tones Bring me my throne and lover, E.N.Y. God from Sutter 1:01:29 In junior high I used to lie when I stutter Fly with the butters, who you sweaters cop them in colors I'm not like the others, not Buster Cat boxes are buffers, it's over, your boy's sober 1:01:38 Sitting back 30 years older, stare closer, see the tears in my shoulders Distilling, lost feelings Need therapy for the healing, from what I see 1:01:46 I can never be a civilian We're touching the millions who to trust fooling with lusts I had me doing everything but never doing enough Just flew to the 1:01:54 cut first goner then boss of honor It's a lot to ponder travel back right after bronzer quick from under Life's short, vision resourced, spirits 1:02:03 are forced How you move, never your thoughts, message is caught Unwrap, place in my lap, the greatest is back Tell her haters, make me a plaque 1:02:12 Know your girl's dreams predicted Yes, sir I don't think you're capable of making a bad verse. Word. Shit is just so 1:02:20 smooth. Smooth time listening to it. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. I need more of you on Ghostface Collab. Oh yeah, Ghost get busy. Every time I listen to you, I'm like, yo, I don't know why we 1:02:28 don't got more of you. Yeah, Ghost get busy. Yeah. Especially over that style, production. Yeah, crazy. Audio. Yes, 1:02:37 sir. Easy, man. Ghosts, easy. I'm excited. Me too. Thank you, brother. I'm excited for the project. I 1:02:45 appreciate you. I can't wait to hear it. I can't wait to see you disappear back into the abyss once it's out. So 1:02:55 you think you're going to consistently just start? I want to. I want to consistently put music out. I just want my son to do his thing. So I mean, we'll 1:03:03 see. I mean, we'll see. Is it a challenge to, because you've been, is it a challenge to like not be the 1:03:11 fucking like the momager is it a challenge to kind of let them go through their own process and experiences without just handling 1:03:19 it? I'm not gonna let him bump his head like that, but he get bruised up a little bit, but he's not gonna go through a week. I said week, because you know, we first get in the game, 1:03:27 getting them contracts. They did us dirty. They did us dirty. I ain't gonna let that happen. Well, he ain't gonna get a contract, but yeah. 1:03:36 He's gonna do good, but he gonna bump his head. He gotta learn that stage. He gotta learn how to deal with adversity in life and things that come with it. It's always 1:03:44 shit that come with it, and you figure it out. But the good thing is I'm here. Word, word. I didn't have to, I don't know about you. I 1:03:52 didn't have that over me to really guide and things like that. So God willing, we'll see what's up. Are you 1:04:00 in or have you been a therapy? No No, you good, no you seem to see my Needed 1:04:09 maybe Never know that ain't based on therapy. Oh, you are who you are based on what you experience in life So that's what I'm 1:04:18 trying to figure out why he not traumatized. Not that you don't know, but me being here talking, I feel like I'm not talking enough. But in my 1:04:26 mind, I think I'm talking too much. No, you're talking too much. You're doing a great job. No, no, no, you don't. Yo, dawg, we up here be looking for the... That's 1:04:34 what it is. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes. Not all the time. Not all the time. It's cool. It's cool. I'm with you. You're guarded, but that doesn't necessarily mean you need therapy. 1:04:42 Like you said before, therapy don't have to be a negative thing. It can really just be unpacking positive shit. So I wouldn't say garden, maybe sloppy, like I'm not sloppy. You're 1:04:50 not sloppy. You're not sloppy. You're not garden, I'm not garden. Like I don't, like whatever come to me, I'm gonna handle it accordingly, but I think I'm just not sloppy. I think everybody used to be 1:04:59 sloppy. Yeah, Especially now, yes. That's true, that's true. What's cool about that? Exactly. You just don't really seem affected by Anything. 1:05:07 Anything that's happened in your life. Like you seem at peace, you seem just to have a holistic view 1:05:15 even when it come to getting fucked by the labels. I got fucked by a bunch of labels and today if somebody wants me long enough they could see where it fucked me up. 1:05:25 Me I'm going to make the best of it and not to get trapped in that same situation again. That's where I'm at with it. So it ain't like it ain't fucked me up it Of course it did what the fuck 1:05:33 I'm gonna do put the toothpaste back in the tool You know I mean, I gotta get to it like what's next now. Like I that gonna pivot let's do that. Let's I 1:05:42 Think everybody should do 30 years later niggas still want to hear from AZ That that's a win that alone is the win like niggas 1:05:50 don't have you can be as talented as you want to be. Niggas don't, God don't want to hear from you. Like that's a good, like when I think about what we complain about, niggas got careers 1:05:59 off of some shit that we love doing. That's it. No, that's, you ever went on the phone that wasn't yours? Oh 1:06:07 shit. I probably did that. Here we go we go. Looking now follow to follow 1:06:16 so I ain't nothing happened. What you saw you see that. Fine what you're looking for. You killed that nigga wouldn't tell you if you heard. He shot. Then. I didn't go too far though, so I was like, nah, ain't nothing happenin'. You ain't seen nothin'. You ain't find what you was lookin' for? Oh, you killed that nigga. He shot 1:06:24 that nigga. That nigga did it. That nigga did it. This nigga crazy. More money, 1:06:32 more murder. Crazy. Y'all off the hook, man. I'm joking around. We just happy you're here. We 1:06:40 happy you stopped by. We happy that people get to hear you. We happy to this new music. Like niggas is happy, man. And I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to have a, I bet y'all, to be honest. You know 1:06:48 what I mean? It's a blessing, man. It's a good thing, man. Well, I'm looking forward to whenever the show hits New York. Oh, we there. We there. For sure. I'm near. 1:06:57 I ain't even hold y'all to it. No doubt. Yeah. Give me that window dressing right now. I'm gonna hold y'all to it. Y'all be there. No doubt. We 1:07:06 have any final questions? Any final... You got any questions for us? No, right? No. Nah, this was great. This was great. 1:07:15 This was great. Make some noise! AZ! Y'all 1:07:23 niggas lucky. Hey, y'all got to hear this man's voice. You're lucky. Cherish it. God damn it. Facts. Peace, y'all. 1:07:31 Yes. We're back. We are back. Legend day continues. Indeed. 1 legend leave, 1:07:40 another legend show up. Fuck y'all thought, man. Just like that. Ladies and gentlemen, Suleyhe 1:07:48 is in the building. And Suleyhe, you're not really a guest. No. At all. At all. But- Feel 1:07:56 like a regular. But fans, fans, I don't know if you're aware, They voted you like best guest from your last appearance. 1:08:05 I want a chain. What's up man? How you doing? 1:08:15 I'm in New York. I was at the Brooklyn Museum the other night doing a talk. I invited a number of you to come. Not me. Parks, I apologize. 1:08:23 It's all right. Sorry, Mark. Sorry, good morning. A number of you to come. You're just talking to me. I just invited this. Yo, this is the Process 1:08:31 of Elimination. I figured you guys would communicate it. We don't talk to each other. We don't talk to each other outside of here. I've watched 1:08:39 this show for a while now, and I see how whenever you guys have individual events, you always say you're going to go on the show, and then you don't go. So now I know what that feels like. 1:08:48 Yeah, you. I'm welcome. I'm welcome, man. Don't do that. Don't put that on. Yeah. What was the event? That's just it. It was a talk 1:08:56 with myself and Futura, who's a very well-known fine artist and a graffiti legend at the Brooklyn Museum about my 1:09:04 career, his career, and just our joint creative processes. How do you decide who up here deserves to get an invite and who 1:09:12 gets an invite? That's a very good question, Mark. And that's crazy. That's a great question. I haven't. You actually would go? I haven't heard about it. You wouldn't go. So, you know, 1:09:20 like, relationships exist on a spectrum, right? Like I've actually spent time with Joseph, right? Where do we go? We went to that GQ thing. It was like a GQ party. 1:09:28 Yeah, Fashion Week. Fashion Week, something. Oh, the date where he acted awkward. Yeah, I didn't feel that. But anyway, Ice 1:09:37 gives me tech advice from time to time. I'll be like, how can I do this? Or you've given me some like, and then Ish has given me 1:09:45 some kind of real estate advice. So because of those, just like slightly more than surface level relationships. 1:09:53 And fuck all that, I support, nigga. I cop. Yo, don't call me surface level. Well no, more than surface level. You said more. Slightly more. 1:10:02 Yeah. And so because of that, I think just on a subconscious level I was just like let me hit yeah If you if you talk at a 1:10:10 your normal voice, you don't ever go an octave above you'll be able to maintain your vocal cords better That's my advice. I have a question for 1:10:18 you. That's why you didn't get invited. Ask your mouse vocal. Hey, he won't be there. Can you play 1:10:26 the... Can you play the... Yo, could you sing for me? Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, man. 1:10:35 Ain't no invite for you, nigga. He asked you why he wouldn't. I'm sorry, are you just... Imani, I when I ask you a question. 1:10:43 I can't hear. Who are you? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. But really, who are you? Oh, what have you done? 1:10:51 You should just play Sweet Lady, nigga. All right, here we go. Calling. 1:11:00 Hey, let's go. Outside when she keeps me warm. New Salaehe. New Salaehe. Got 1:11:08 you the walk out of here. Quiet conversation makes me warm. Take that, 1:11:16 take that. Yeah. Whoa, simmering. Y'all don't want to hear that 1 from me no more. Whispers me to sleep when it wakes me up again. Take that, take that. Oh, summer rain Who is to be the 1:11:24 sweet bread which we all begat Sometimes I swear I hear you call my name I swear I'm not 1:11:32 lying I swear I'm not lying In the middle of 1:11:42 the night when I'm trying to find a way to live I tried once to love you I tried once to love you I tried once to love you I tried once to love you All the night when I'm alone I'm Alone, 1:11:51 alone, alone I feel her kisses on me Even when she's 1:11:59 gone can't wait till she gets home I'm expecting to be this kid I gotta be careful what you 1:12:07 ask for Come on Up again He finally sang for you He's eating you now Mommy 1:12:16 need my He's eating you now I got you I bark up the on. 1:12:26 Let's go, Freeze. I don't wanna... Fuck you. Because I'm a star, so slow. Yeah, so slow. Oh, bro. Oh, shit. That was good. Oh, 1:12:34 man. That's funny. That was good. That was funny, though That was funny Make him 1:12:42 say, oh Nah, nah, nah, nah Oh, shit I 1:12:51 don't mind Yeah, nigga, he not gon' go Nah, nah, nah, nah. Nigga, oh, hey. Oh, shit. I don't mind. Nigga, he's not gonna go. I ain't gonna 1:12:59 go. You got the nigga sound like Oscar. I'm gonna go. What you think his singing voice sounds like? Niggas 1:13:09 have me sound like Scooby Doo. Fuck all y'all. My 1:13:18 mama like it. I'm proud of you, you did it. Thank you man, Thank you. They kicked my back in when I said that old shit. It 1:13:26 was like, well, Suley asked you to sing and you were like, it's different. I got in the comments immediately. I seen it. I tried to ignore it but it laid out. It won't even sing for 1:13:34 me either. That was a Salahian pressure? Nah. I just was reading it. Yeah I ain't gonna lie I 1:13:42 don't like that you got that chain. Yeah what were your initial thoughts on the chain? Because it seemed like you were against it, and I could kind of understand 1:13:51 the silent perspective you were sharing. Yo, you done watched the show so much, and so much a part of the show, you be on your messy shit. Yo, your life's been on 3 visits, you been 1:13:59 on your messy shit, yo. Because before the last week, I ain't gonna lie, I thought the chain might have been in the bag a little bit fool Not for you. I 1:14:07 just said for who I'm relaxed for me. Oh No, but I don't even mean acquiring the chain. I mean, I think that little arguments. I had he 1:14:15 had a strong Yeah, He had a strong final week. I felt like it was yours too, honestly. Nah, he had a good month. He had a 1:14:23 great month. I just didn't think it was in the bag for you. No, it wasn't. I was in the lead for a big part of the month. I think me and Ish was right there. 1:14:32 I think Flip was being sad a lot. I think you just gave him both the shots because niggas like you. That's the point. The 1:14:40 last couple episodes, you really put the foot on the gas. The Blackest Panther. Yeah. You helped. Oh shit. Yeah, no you left earth 1:14:48 and yeah This 1 here This 1 here. You earned it. You did that. It's always heard. Where does the voting 1:14:57 takes place? I'm working at half time my nigga. No for his people Used to be in Well, 1:15:05 not used to be well, he's still there still there. There used to be a democratic process. It's a very unreliable process. It'll still be there. You 1:15:14 was campaigning your ass off. There was a lot of redistricting that happened. Some gerrymandering and stuff. I think 1:15:22 it's dope that you're wearing it though, because I think a lot of people was expecting you to be on some. The electoral college is fucked up. Exactly. Fuck is you talking about though? 1:15:30 Mark never sniffed that chain. Oh man. I'm going to keep it a buck. I don't think he'd get it no time soon. I'm gonna do it. Damn. See, God 1:15:39 damn. I just take pride in the work, man. I know, I know. I don't do it. That's for you. Statue. That's for you. Oh man. Who is 1:15:47 that? They're alerting him. Mark to my heel. What's up? More porridge, sir. What's up? I'm good. Shadow wide. Oh man, not much. Shadow 1:15:55 wide. No, I'm good, man. I just like it was worth it. It's had a great, good 1. You had a great couple weeks. You did? Yeah. That's peace. Yo, 1:16:03 you just can't help yourself, yo. What? He had a great couple weeks. I'm saying you pushed forward. It was a tight race. I think you separated from the pack the last 1:16:12 couple weeks. I think you really, like that Oxtail thing that I set up for y'all, that shit, that shit did. A nigga beat my Tyrese moment with oxtail But 1:16:25 then ish left earth after that Last couple weeks ish pulled away. He wanted that shit. He's working at full time. I got half time. So I gotta Be 1:16:36 a winner be a better loser You know, I've seen you niggas do the same shit, right? Nah. Make all the excuses. I lose 1:16:44 money. I lose money. I lose money. Everybody in here, my brother, my brother. They just don't have it a lot. But yeah You lost all last year what you talking about? Yeah, 1:16:52 you lost the whole year. Oh You tell me a little run you went on fuck. I want 5 months in a row. It's not a little run It's almost half the year. Yeah. 1:17:00 Yes unprecedented other niggas 1 big study later. They got over that obsession. That's a fact. That's a fact. They got over that. 1:17:09 That's a fact. Fast. Don't let B-Dot come back. We still performing at a high level. What does that something LeBron want to MVP? Your B-Dot might get 1 before you, man. On what show? On this show. 1:17:17 You think he ain't coming back? I don't know. I'm not even resources. Y'all have to know beat us coming back I know he coming back Hey, 1:17:26 you gotta come back just cuz Elliot had twins Congratulations We 1:17:36 love you and we love that for you, but you know me, dawg, come on. Elliot had twins? Yes. Elliot had twins. Congrats, man. Congrats, I just didn't know. Boy and a girl. Yeah, you 1:17:44 posted them. Dope. I didn't see it. Congrats, that's a blessing. That's what he does. Salute. Yo, if the twins. How old is Elliott? That's 1:18:00 a lot twins at Twins at 35 Your 1:18:11 girl just gave you today. No. Twins. I ain't signed up for twins, man. Wait, we together? Yes. 1:18:19 Oh my god. He's not used to this scenario. Wait, wait, she's pregnant? It's mine and we together? 1:18:27 I'm here? At the same damn time? That's a trap. She live in this state? You live here? We're here? Yes, 1:18:36 Imani, you're together. It does happen that way sometimes. He's like, who the fuck is this? How long are you together after that? See? 1:18:50 Stupid. That's the thing about Dead Beats. For real. I'm going to stick around and do the right thing. But if I don't like 1:18:58 it, I'm gonna have some shit in looking. Might have to get ghosts on this family. Reset. 1:19:06 What? Take some water. Yeah, we're being 1:19:15 toxic. I love it. Oh, shit. That's fucked up. Yeah, yo. All right. Before we go. Do you know? 1:19:26 Are you looking at oh yes, come if he's looking at me a 1:19:37 bunch of. Her name is. I'm like, oh, shit. 1:19:45 Hold up. Let me take a look. Who's in the group chat? 1:19:55 I went right to the group chat. Like it'll be here. I want to get on the Joe Blunt podcast group chat. No. What do I got to do? Nothing. 1:20:04 Oh, wait where's it at? Oh let me see. Let's see here. What's your 0, yeah. Uh-oh. Okay. What's your 1:20:12 point? Summer rain. Do-do-do-do-do. Damn. God bless her. That is peace. Seems like a nice thing. Yeah, good personality. What's the next 1:20:24 question? I Tried to click the name Yeah, 1:20:38 stop playing with my boy you better stop that's not coming here stop playing with my boy I'm picking you up No, I'm good. I don't need your big. Yeah, nigga Well, I see my 1:20:46 man what I'm telling you when I come in here and just start spitting them out like a motherfuckers I hate that. I hate when it's private. You 1:20:55 under this shit a lot, my boy. Can let me see your phone? You under this shit right here a lot. So 1:21:03 my question for y'all is, how many years are you allowed to be under there before you have 1:21:11 to find a spine and some dignity and say, you know what? Don't do that. I can't let her see my name under there no more. Ask 1:21:19 yourself. Uh-oh. But I'm asking you. Oh, actually, you ain't get there yet. I'm asking you. You just started puberty, nigga. Who the fuck is you talking about? I see your name under everything. All right, but we 1:21:27 talking about you right now. That floating shirt be everywhere. All right, but we talking about you right now. Joe, what I found, I just, man, I do a clean out. Oh, this is nice. I 1:21:35 do a clean out. And I'll go take all my follows back, bitch ass nigga. Oh shit, this shit local too. I'm good. Y'all, this nigga is crazy. Y'all 1:21:44 crazy. Yo, you're mad. You're crazy. This 1 here that I just sent to the 1:21:52 group chat. This new 1 I sent to the group chat. You don't want to start playing this game. I saw you there. You my man and I 1:22:00 was taking a shit. Let me see. So I saw you under some 2026 shit. Oh shit. You been under her shit for a long time? It's not really there. 1:22:08 It was. It's not really there. It was though. And if it was, it ain't. I bet you I'll go back to 2322. You was there. It's not there. You might've put me on that. I removed 1:22:16 those. Oh, okay. You don't get the keep a Joe button like. What you talking about? You get a Joe button like, that shit is time sensitive. No, it's not, Joe. It is, I'm telling you. But anyway, 1:22:24 so I went scrolling because I was taking a shit. I saw you under there in 2025. Liberian girl. I saw you under there in 2024. You too? I saw 1:22:32 you up under there in 2024. Mm-hmm. You too? I saw you up under there in 2023. Mm-mm-mm-mm. I scrolled. I said, no way I'm gonna see 1:22:40 my boy in 2022. I saw you. I saw him in 2022. Oh, that's not private, neither. Watch. I'm... Watch 1:22:49 how I go back there and see Joe Button, Joe Button, Joe Button. Now I got to put this in the group chat. Yo. Yo, get your other 1. Because when I saw him under there for 2022, 1:22:57 I was like, nah, they're not even gonna believe me. I got to take a picture. And I said, I know he ain't under there no more and then I seen you on What's 1:23:08 this date right here ice I'm tired of you That's a October 1:23:16 14 2022 What's that name right there? Like by Joe Biden. Thank you. The fuck is you talking about, Aki? In 2022. You 1:23:25 under there a lot. Joe. You can't like that much. 2021. Let yourself know. I'm telling you. I bet you, I'm in 2022. 1:23:33 You can't like that much because it come off away. What's this ice? It's a different 1. Who name is that? 2022 as well. Okay, hold on. We're 1:23:41 not, yeah. Digging the crates over there. We're not going to disappoint the people. I'm just saying 2021, my boy. Like, you dig this. I'm just, I'm 1:23:56 tired of him. You don't want to talk now. Now I'm tired of him. Now part of the month don't want to part. I talk, I'm part. Tuck them in. You didn't though. Tuck them right in. Watch this. 1:24:05 Yeah. Yeah, boy. Yeah. You didn't. What's up? Hey Joe, if I'm guilty of this crime, your rat ass is right there with me. Oh 1:24:13 shit. Right in the motherfucking hole themselves. I got a lawyer, I'll go to trial. Me too. Me too. I don't have a problem with that. But you was under there. You 1:24:21 too. No, for real. It was an outing. Look, I see Sue Surf up under here. This is an all-time favorite girl on the Gram. Biting the cheese. No, she's fire. 1:24:29 She's an all-time favorite. That's right. You just ratted. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's a little brother. He liked the picture. I'm sitting here. I got a hood under here. 1:24:38 She's a classic IG girl, Joe. You're not saying much. I'm trying to see when it first started with you niggas. Take it all the way back. 21. I'm 1:24:47 all the way, yeah. Oh yeah, you 21. Yeah, he 21. I see where he's starting. How many? That's what I'm saying. I don't even see this girl. How many years 1:24:55 you have to continue to like this? Huh? Like if I liked your pics back in 2024, like that's not enough? You still look good. Is the picture still 1:25:03 a good picture? That's true. Maybe he's just a photography fan. Oh, she was, oh, no 1, yeah, I don't see why. Oh, nah, I just seen something, yeah. 1:25:11 All right, all right, all right, enough. I bet you see your button name under a bonch. A bonch. Look, it's under a bonch. Y'all are dirty, 1:25:19 boy. Y'all are some rats. I'm keeping it a stack. Keep it a stack, E. I see your name more than his. Thank you. Oh, that's possible? Of 1:25:27 course. No, no, it's a fact. It's not possible. It's what is. But I see him there, though. It's what is. He there. Joe. Trying to be safe. Everybody, you ain't delete them all. You ain't go get them 1:25:36 all. Wifey got jumped on your fucking head. You ain't go get them all. That's right, too. That ain't right. You never told me that. That's 1:25:44 speculation, nigga. You never told me that. That's speculation. You can't play with it. That nigga said it. You can't play with it. That's right. I ain't got a time. I just wanted to 1:25:52 do a cleanse. You gotta dance, though. Pull your secrets out. I just wanted to clean my page. I'm joking, nigga, damn. You got it. Me too. Put the phone up, man. 1:26:00 It's over. We got a guest here. Come on, it's over, it's over. Nah, it's cool. This nigga here is a monster. Say something else, I'm gonna start sending the mid that I found you under. Say 1:26:09 something else, I'm gonna start sending the fucking mid. Mute up and be cute, or that's it. Look at you being performing. Yeah, you know it. But I'm gonna say something else, because I could go get some 1:26:17 mid you up on the tube. No, no No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Show it. Yeah, I got it in my mental roller 1:26:25 deck Like this He going to the feet. This nigger 1:26:34 girl got elephant tie, like this. All she got to do is have a donkey. This 1:26:43 is going to tell her, you don't like them all. You be up under 40 in a row. At this point, what motivates the light? Yo, your shoes were sitting just cra- I'm just trying 1:26:51 to do, I used to try to do that. Just sit back and just let them fight. Yo, I'm not- You're trying to make it a conversation, I get it. What you saying? It's the right thing to do. No, I'm saying at this point today, 1:27:00 40 plus relationships and love, what motivates the light? Lighting. No, it depends on the time of the day. What the fuck you talking about, nigga? 1:27:08 Depends on the time, you ain't never gonna say, Oh, let me get my light back this don't look the same the next day you really take your life back you fucking a right See miss weird. That's 1:27:17 why I gotta ask. Yeah, okay a little I'm not doing no time. You should take a light back as if you do it take 1:27:26 likes back. It's like if I'm... Nigga, we taking a like back. Are you niggas crazy? No, I have. And if I stop following somebody, yeah, I take. 1:27:34 You going in to unlike all the pictures that you like? 2 seconds. I told you I do it before. I know. Yo, y'all don't know how crazy that is? That just sounds nuts. You take your likes with you. 1:27:43 I want my likes. Joe, you going to take a like back? I feel like it's too much energy. Hey, yo, bro. Let me tell you something girl For me follows I made 1:28:01 And it'd be my name my dad Joe button like this shit and 7 underneath this hell no bitch Some days is done That 1:28:09 floating shirt do be there. I'm changing my pick. That shit be right there. That shit be right there. That shit white and black with the white black line 1:28:17 coming across, it stands out. There's 3, 4 bubbles there, but you're gonna see that shirt. It does, yo, for real. That shit stand out. I don't like the pics no more, I just like the stories. Yep. 1:28:25 Go put some gray on, yo. Don't put that bright white shirt on your shit. That shit be good. Fuck, you got in trouble again. Oh, man. What 1:28:34 you did? What you did? Can't be worse than what I did What you did accidentally hit the 1:28:42 repost Yo, 1:28:51 I know it's a lot but I hit the fuck it's saying motherfuckers is reposting the shit you just repost. I'm like- I've done that before. I haven't done it until it was straight ass. I was like, oh. How long was 1:28:59 it there though? Shit. I haven't done it- How long was it there? About an hour or 2. I never did it with 1:29:07 a girl, but I've done it with like shit that you be following and you'd be like there's some political Shit, you don't reposted 1:29:15 that you like. Oh, no, I like this shit. I need to repost that I ain't mark get my shit like yo you Hi, yeah, I was like what? 1:29:24 The repost is the little, yeah. I have a good 1. I'm not gonna do a hot steak, no other chick ass on my, They make that way too easy. Yeah, you can do it by mistake. 1:29:32 I see if you're scrolling on the side of the... Uh-huh. I didn't know. I've done that before. What you did. What you did. Yours is way 1:29:40 worse than that. You reposted some bird ass shit? No. Oh, nah. I didn't do nothing on Instagram. Oh, shit. Did 1:29:48 someone life a gram? At Fashion Week, you kept leaving me alone to go be a celebrity, them gay motherfuckers was on me. 1:29:58 Yours in your bag. They asked you to party. You was wearing that cologne. Yeah, that's what they thought. Yeah, it's cool. Niggas Salae 1:30:06 would not come back for nothing. He over there just being the talk of the town Why I'm blocking? I'm over here guarding my ass You say he wasn't Blocking? 1:30:16 That's the true cock block right here. Yo, literally. Yo, come on. He wasn't blocking, yo. Let him do they thing, nigga. Oh, man. Hey, 1:30:25 Joe. The next event, we all get the invite, right? Word. Yes, it's always an open invite. We got the stuff for that. God damn. He didn't even went back to it. 1:30:33 Oh shit, he dead ass. Yo, get this nigga in the fight, man. He gave you some sneakers. Holy shit. Yo, 1:30:41 can I get my sneakers out? Oh my God. Oh my God. It's the begging hour, come on. That's my man, bro. That's my man. 1:30:50 Yes, yes. Please. It's just a text away. You know what I'm saying? It's a link to the site. So it's an open invite. I thought you guys would actually come. I would come. Nah, 1:30:58 for real. You would actually, yeah, you're like, I'm still okay. No, I would come. Seriously, I was coming. I feel like, yeah, I don't even have your number. So again, on the spectrum of friendship, it's like 1, 2. 1:31:06 You're doing it right. Bad for business. Bad for business. That was there. Yo, be careful with that. You don't need to talk to him at all. 1:31:15 No, but when you described his, what was it, like Christmas party or New Year's Eve party the way you described it I guess probably it was probably like a Cosby 1:31:23 show episode of just like scholars and leaders and it was it was other They think they read everybody that way even though a lot of 1:31:31 people were just regular people. He locked us in the basement. Nobody there was a... He locked us in the basement. You're right. He's wrong. So like, with drugs, that's what he said. 1:31:39 Like 1 of the guys he described is like the scholar that was sitting there talking about like the, What did you say, the circumference of the Earth? 1:31:47 Oh, that's what was going on at this shit? That's what he said was happening. Upstairs, where we wouldn't allow that. Jiu-Jitsu coach. He put the dump truck down. This is mad 1:31:55 random people. He was like, how do I deal with this? Oh, look, I'll find some weed and put it up in the basement. No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you, he rocked us to sleep. 1:32:04 Wait a second. Hold on, we're all talking to each other. No, man. He's asking. Hold on, what I- He rocked us to sleep because he told us that, I'm wondering 1:32:12 how my friends are going to mix with these friends. So then we get there not realizing we were the friends he was talking about the whole time. No, 1:32:21 it just kind of played. I mean you ended up being there, but that wasn't the plan when I got there. You gave the niggas some regi and put them in the basement. You had actual like... The sleepy edibles 1:32:29 too. No Hennessy upstairs. All Hennessy was downstairs. It's a coincidence upstairs was after spritz The 1:32:40 basement is where I be I don't like being monitored like 1:32:48 that. Put that down. You know that's funny. I'm telling you, I 1:32:56 walked to my car to get something outside and then so pulled off So I just stood outside for a minute. Somebody across the street locked their door. I 1:33:04 swear to God. Wait, did y'all go through his front door, his crib, or you had to go through the side door? Front door. It was the front door. But this is the funny part. Nobody's standing 1:33:12 outside in front of Mark's house. Is it a big house? No. Huge. So you in that neighborhood. It's not. Don't lock your door on Joe 1:33:21 Button because you see me in the street. I don't know that's Joe Button. I don't know Joe Button from Joe. That there's niggas. That made me want to do 1:33:29 a crime though. Okay, well they got something for you. No, no, no. They got something for you, though. And that, man, brother. Yo, getting an itch for being here is crazy. 1:33:37 I'm letting you know. It's nice in there, though. It'll be comfy, but it will be on your ass. 2.2. Yeah, 1:33:46 that ain't good. Go down the block. No? Well, so listen, next time we have something at the house. You're welcome to come as I would love to come I would I would love to explore that 1:33:54 Landscape he had another kickback We're 1:34:06 gonna do something something we're gonna do I guess we probably do a Juneteenth party. Mm-hmm. They keep niggas out Backyard, right? Yeah He wasn't invited. No, we're supposed to do some Bowie, and I'm not doing it. Don't bring them back here. Because I was supposed to be out of the country. But we're going to do something this summer. We're going to do like a, I think we're probably going to do a Juneteenth party. And keep niggas out in the backyard, right? Y'all. No, 1:34:14 no, no, everybody. It's going to be a, yeah, we're going to do something. We're going to do something this summer. Is there a dress code? No. Dachikis. Everything's laid back. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. 1:34:23 Yeah, you got to look literate. No, I'm good. Yeah. Black power color? Right. We were going to have y'all come. We were going to do like a big 1:34:32 love party, because we never had a wedding. We were going to do a big party and invite everybody. We decided to just do it. That sounds like an orgy when you call it a love party. I'm like, wait, what? 1:34:41 But we decided to just do something very, very small, with only like 30 or 40 people. Wait, oh, you did it already? No. No, no. You ain't part of the 30. 1:34:49 No, I'm just trying to figure it out. You're just going to make the 30? I thought it was between the 2 of us. It's like, like, fitting and fitting. Childhood friends. It's not y'all. Yeah, childhood friends and a few 1:34:57 people we're gonna do I found out a lot in brooklyn a couple weeks about Mark and and his lovely wife yesterday oh yeah he came by 1:35:05 the content house the content studios y'all call it And it was nice to bless us with an appearance on In This Thing Together, which is on Patreon. Make sure you subscribe to 1:35:13 that. I won't say much. Is your Patreon growing? Yeah. Because you've been promoting it like every episode. Yeah, I try. Joe 1:35:22 made a great deal with me, where he said in lieu of a pay raise, I can mention my Patreon. Oh, for real? Yeah. I thought these are the things I'm like sitting at my laptop like, I wonder. 1:35:31 That was a deal. He said I can't pay you more money, but I like that. Oh, you're joking. Okay I thought that was no, I'm serious In this thing together only on 1:35:39 patreon make sure you watch He can a lot get 3 episode. I get 3 episode the mark is a whore You got to throw those things in the contract. Oh, 1:35:47 I had no choice Amani 1:36:03 supposed to be the homie to hold you down. He came over, we was supposed to be interviewing him about his life, and he started asking my wife questions. Uh-oh. My shit ain't 1:36:11 interesting. It's the same shit every day. It's very interesting. People who aren't in the life, your life is very interesting. I gotta 1:36:19 come back but I'ma shut up. I'ma let you be today. It's a nice day, I feel good. Yo, no, it was a good conversation. Yeah, once you started asking how 1:36:27 we met and all of, why it took so long. We got some toxic shit there. I was like, yo, you unpacking shit. Go watch it. Go watch 1:36:35 it. Where's that again? Only on Patreon, in this thing together. Mark my official network. It'll be out week after next, the 1 you did, but it's a special 1. It's dope. 1:36:44 Thank you, though. And thank you for showing up. He's a pro. And a good friend. He is solid when it comes to shit like that. I try. Yeah. I 1:36:52 try. That's peace. That's peace. Why you got that dumb ass face on? Because 1:37:01 they hyped me up for the commercial and I'm trying to... No, no, no. I didn't want to do the... Yeah, to speak about it, we'll give it away, so I'm not going to go with that. 1:37:09 Then what the fuck y'all bring it up for? I was just saluting him for coming through and showing love. Slade was saying niggas here don't show up for shit. It's called a teaser. Why is it so hard for you to just be 1:37:17 like do something in a nice way for your, yeah. Like you have to mask your compliments with some hate. Why? Oh, 1:37:25 I really be meanin' what I'm sayin' and I mask it as. You thought it was a mask. We're 1:37:34 never going to get to that point where we just can't be like complimentary of each other in like a real complimentary way. Like it has to be. No, that sounds a little boring. Yeah, that's 1:37:42 right. You know the funny thing, you say that and I maybe get where you come from. I feel like I compliment you guys a lot. I think so too actually 1:37:51 Like I do I think so. I don't know if Marcus being funny, but I mean Especially especially by dude scale. I think 1:37:59 yes on the dude scale I think you you do it, but it's shortly followed with a joke to take away like 1:38:07 the real nice sentiment. Did you notice that when Tyrese was going at you, he defended you? I think he was, first 1:38:15 off, let's be very clear, I appreciate that, but I think some of what he was doing was also being condescending. I think he was being condescending too. No, I think he 1:38:24 was trying to help you out because Tyrese was on your neck. Oh, shit. You think Tyrese was on my neck? A little bit. I think the people that think like that are very 1:38:32 surprising to me. I think everything that he did to me didn't show me out. It made him look stupid. It just felt like 1:38:40 Tyrese being on the big mountain that he exists on, for him to even talk like that, could make 1 insecure on 1:38:49 a stage like a podcast? I can see where someone else might be affected by that. Okay. I 1:38:57 don't think I was affected by that. I don't think our showcase being affected by it. And also I still think all of us who are on a podcast who none of us have the credit 1:39:06 As far as music when it comes to him, they still don't take away the fact that we have an opinion But either way he defended you Yes, 1:39:14 that was that He better take it and say oh he was being joky joky. Wait, what? I'd have slayed Tyrese nigga Like 1:39:25 I said, I do think that you're just talking. And I said it in the moment, my nigga slide you, nigga, and we fold you up in here. I said that to Black Ty, nigga, but you think it's Jokey Jokey. 1:39:33 I watched it. I know you, nigga. I know you enough to know what you, when you be in the, let me instigate back. That's crazy. I was really on your side. He was going 1:39:42 too hard. They can't come here and go too hard. I'm with you. I said that last part. They shouldn't go hard at all. I don't like that. I think we should make the jokes after they 1:39:50 leave. We all slip into it from time to time, but in general, I think the hardest joke should come after the 1:39:58 -> 100:06.500] guest leave. You know what's funny? I think you might be the only person at this point can