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"Phony Objectives" (feat. Punch) | Patreon Exclusive

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— [100:00.180 --> 100:11.720] without answering the question like that what did that TV off sink look like? It

— [100:11.720 --> 100:19.840] was crazy? Yeah, those are good songs. It was a problem, yeah. Or, yeah. Yeah. That's how it is. Yeah, let me, let me,

— [100:19.840 --> 100:28.100] when y'all handled the departure reason, I felt like a lot of people were speaking up.

— [100:28.940 --> 100:38.080] I felt like they were not really representing how you felt, but it felt like they were talking for you a little bit. Is

— [100:38.080 --> 100:46.240] there anything that you need to clear about why that departure happened the way it happened or your sentiments about why it felt better to just let the person

— [100:46.240 --> 100:54.340] go do their thing or, cause I feel like you never really said nothing about it. Yeah, they just let Musa

— [100:54.340 --> 101:02.420] do it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I don't think it was much to say. When he speak on, When he go to his interviews, he

— [101:02.960 --> 101:11.080] speak on what he felt and what he thought, so okay, go ahead. Do you have a problem about people attached to the label speaking about

— [101:11.080 --> 101:19.080] things that can ultimately look like it represents y'all thought? Do y'all ever go ahead and pull into the side and say yo, y'all gotta chill out because a lot of

— [101:19.080 --> 101:27.140] y'all talking and it's going to represent a TDE feeling and it's really not representing us. It depends on what it is really. Ultimately,

— [101:27.320 --> 101:35.860] it's like, no, we back up. People do what they do. But if it's something that's too crazy then like yeah, we'll step in and say

— [101:35.860 --> 101:44.040] something Just like we try to keep these narratives like close to the truth as possible You know me because people are

— [101:44.100 --> 101:52.260] based on our silence people create their own story and just build on it and just keep going. Well there's a saying, a lie on challenge becomes the truth

— [101:52.260 --> 102:00.320] to a lot of people. Absolutely. So how do you, so then if somebody's saying something, you're like, yo, just let them go say it. Yeah, for sure. And it may not be the truth, you just, how do you deal with it

— [102:00.320 --> 102:08.460] then? It's just certain things that you can't chase. You know what I'm saying? You gotta let it rock. Because you'll waste time and you'll give

— [102:08.460 --> 102:16.900] it more fuel too. You know what I'm saying? If you're on there trying to correct everything. And how much can that quote-unquote truth

— [102:16.940 --> 102:24.960] impact? You know what I'm saying? So if that lie unchecked, like you said, becomes the truth, but it really don't damage nothing. All right, fuck it, believe it. So what? It ain't

— [102:24.960 --> 102:33.000] impacting nothing. Absolutely. Kind of like the thing we was talking about earlier with the, say we hold albums back. That don't impact nothing.

— [102:33.000 --> 102:41.260] You know what I'm saying? It's just a minor irritance. After 72 hours that shit gone. No for sure. New news cycle. Rezin

— [102:41.360 --> 102:50.340] is a friend of the show. We've had him on a few times but we stopped since he was doing roaring bullshit too. We

— [102:50.340 --> 102:58.520] haven't had him since. I seen that. We don't have him no more. Now he text me, y'all I'm in town. Salute. Enjoy Time Square. Stop doing

— [102:58.520 --> 103:06.540] that. Let niggas go to the bowl. The time of Huckoverty is amazing. Go ahead and try it. No, you can do both. Next time you're in New York, you can do both. Come on,

— [103:06.540 --> 103:14.620] y'all. You can do both. But you gotta do all this first. But Reason, last time he was here, said, in my

— [103:14.620 --> 103:22.840] contract, I can't speak for nobody else's contract, but in mine, I Couldn't do a song and put it out whether that be a freestyle whether it be for some shit for SoundCloud

— [103:23.280 --> 103:32.260] Not just the album shit. I didn't have no control on releasing none of my shit I

— [103:32.260 --> 103:40.540] See where that could be He said and he also said like it got to a point where he couldn't feed himself Mm-hmm

— [103:40.540 --> 103:48.740] or something along those lines. I might be he was just saying like it got to a point where he was financially fucked up you know what I mean what would be the benefit and I just

— [103:48.740 --> 103:57.600] want to hear from you and saying that to artists or if I'm not saying if it's true or not but what would be the benefit in that I've

— [103:57.600 --> 104:05.660] never said that to artists ever have you ever wrote it This is the thing when you if you got to go by this is

— [104:05.660 --> 104:13.680] what the contract says then something is already wrong with the business that you're actually doing. The interactions. I feel like that. I agree with that. You know what

— [104:13.680 --> 104:21.720] I mean? So even if that's language in the contract that's not what's being followed got it you know what I mean no

— [104:21.720 --> 104:29.740] I say that all the time but it's tough to say that to somebody that's in this contract yeah I say it all time like it's there cuz it kind of got to

— [104:29.740 --> 104:38.020] be there but I mean fuck is doing like you're doing that who cares go ahead but it's like the thing is like we don't make no money

— [104:38.200 --> 104:46.580] if we holding albums or songs. You tweeted that before. You tweeted that before. Because it's dead true. Like, what is the benefit that we get if

— [104:46.580 --> 104:54.640] we just holding something. Building up anticipation maybe? Do you feel like the artist isn't ready? Do you feel like it's work that we don't want

— [104:54.640 --> 105:02.660] to put out? Like this is not quality work that TDE want to stand behind or it's not it? Because I've heard stories like that before as well. If that's the case,

— [105:02.660 --> 105:11.980] we'll say yeah, well we don't know if this 1 is ready. But ultimately, if you're adamant on wanting to go with this, we're gonna say okay, go ahead. Not

— [105:11.980 --> 105:20.100] talking about TDE artists, because you niggas take 10 years between albums. What do you think is the proper amount today with the landscape today?

— [105:20.100 --> 105:28.340] What do you think is the proper amount of time that a lit artist should take between projects? A lit artist? Yeah, somebody

— [105:28.340 --> 105:36.640] that has motion, somebody that's there's demand for. To me it got to be the the life cycle of a project. So you drop the joint,

— [105:36.940 --> 105:45.260] it go crazy. Now you should tour it. And maybe you should do a couple of cycles of that tour. And

— [105:45.260 --> 105:53.300] based on how long that takes, then you start the next album after that, start working on it. So that can vary based on

— [105:53.300 --> 106:01.720] time and who you are. How big the artists are. And how big the tours. Right. That sounds like a 2 year minimum. That's not true because If you look at Bruno, right? Bruno

— [106:02.560 --> 106:10.620] went ahead and toured what Damian had 3, 4 years, or for 1 hour. And what you call it. And he went to the gambling table, too.

— [106:10.760 --> 106:18.800] He's good now. He said he paid them all back. He said he paid them all back. That's what he said. That's what he said. We got to check the books. But even if you look at like what we did like if you look at SZA

— [106:18.800 --> 106:26.940] she dropped SOS in 2022 at the end so we toured all of 2023 and

— [106:27.600 --> 106:35.880] 2024 then we did the deluxe and then we went on the tour with her and that so this is all

— [106:35.880 --> 106:44.180] like within cycle yeah yeah where do you fall where do you fall on we

— [106:44.180 --> 106:52.780] have this talk up here a lot too about back in the day the label spent most of the money before

— [106:52.780 --> 107:01.260] your release day. Now it seems to be happening post like after the album comes out. Do you have a preference in

— [107:02.520 --> 107:10.680] which way that it's done? Yeah you got to do the full duration of the project. If you stack it up on the front end, it's

— [107:10.680 --> 107:18.680] going to stop after a couple of weeks, because you can't support it throughout. So to me, I love to space it out. I

— [107:18.680 --> 107:26.820] mean, you start with some things on the front end, but then once it drop, now you in full promo mode. You know what I'm saying? You gotta move

— [107:26.820 --> 107:34.920] around, you gotta shoot more visuals, you gotta do all of the stuff. And how long do y'all keep putting money toward a project or just

— [107:34.920 --> 107:43.120] depends on how hot it is? Yeah, it depends on how it's moving like you get the numbers back. You see what's what's working was not working Something is working you put a little

— [107:43.120 --> 107:51.300] bit more money towards it If something is not working you still try to push a little bit, but it comes a point where you say all right No more we gotta move on how long before

— [107:51.300 --> 107:59.340] an album drops Do you have it in your possession finished? Cuz I know a lot of people wait till the last second drop it But that

— [107:59.340 --> 108:07.380] would handcuff the label in terms of where they can spend money, right? Yeah, since the streaming era, you go all the way

— [108:07.380 --> 108:15.760] up until it's time to put it out. Like literally the day of. So how do you handle the marketing aspects of that? Like not having the

— [108:15.760 --> 108:24.160] final idea, where do I spend this money beforehand? Well, I mean, you should have a final idea. It's not like you drastically

— [108:24.380 --> 108:32.500] changing the album when you coming up on it. Like, I'll go usually when it's about 75%. Gotcha. Then

— [108:32.500 --> 108:40.840] you can start really on the marketing and planning what you want to do You got the concept of the album you got the themes together at that point got you

— [108:40.840 --> 108:48.920] Do you have any idea what a TD e microwave artists would look and sound like I did not It's tough because we don't even like,

— [108:49.440 --> 108:57.600] I don't even know if we know how to do that. Because our whole thing is developing artists from the beginning. So if somebody

— [108:57.600 --> 109:05.800] already kind of got a little name or whatever then we pick them up thinking we get a hot single, I'm not sure how that actually works. And no desire

— [109:05.800 --> 109:13.900] to find out? For me personally, no. That's not my personal thing. I can't speak for Top or

— [109:13.900 --> 109:22.460] Moose or other executives on the team. Would y'all sign a white artist? Y'all work with white people? Talented people. Good

— [109:22.460 --> 109:30.720] boy. What? See, I tried. I tried to swing on him. I tried to swing on him. You tried. Where's J-Rock at? It's been almost 10 years. Yeah, And how's

— [109:30.720 --> 109:39.180] 2T's doing? He burning chains and taking tattoos. Said it backwards, but nah, he good. He

— [109:39.180 --> 109:47.320] good, man. Everybody is good. Rock is towards the end of his new album, too. It's almost time? He literally just hit me while I was

— [109:47.320 --> 109:55.320] in here. So no shit. I can't wait. Yeah Who calls Snoop and gave him some understanding

— [109:57.700 --> 110:05.720] Young get Snoop no understanding. You try to be on me. Oh conversation Yeah, but you could tell a conversation was that I'm not trying to be funny with Snoop But you could tell

— [110:05.720 --> 110:13.860] a conversation was that I think he said that now I was Snoop he He recognized where? Things might have got fuzzy in that

— [110:13.860 --> 110:22.300] little situation. Yeah, And he said it yeah, you know my bad wasn't even doing this this and that so yeah, it's like that's uncle Snoopy

— [110:22.300 --> 110:30.320] I mean mature in the game is good guy It wasn't never no hard feelings to him at all, but you know Artists

— [110:30.320 --> 110:38.360] is gonna express themselves Do you feel like if enough West Coast artists would have spoken up and been on the Drake side that that

— [110:38.360 --> 110:46.460] would have impacted the result to the battle? Or do you think it would have went exactly the same? It could

— [110:46.460 --> 110:54.560] have went the same, you know what I mean? Because this wasn't just a West Coast thing. Like everybody across the world had similar feelings to

— [110:54.760 --> 111:03.040] what was going on. So it wasn't just a West Coast thing at all. Yeah, but in the US, It

— [111:03.040 --> 111:11.220] was y'all moment. Y'all niggas glued together. And I'm not gonna lie to y'all. I can't remember the last time I saw a whole

— [111:11.220 --> 111:19.700] coast line up like that, no matter what the fuck the agenda was, whether they agree with it or not. I know a lot of people who really still fuck with Drake

— [111:19.940 --> 111:28.120] and fuck with his music that was like, it don't matter, I gotta draw a line at this point. This is a moment for us, especially when you go off for the fact that people

— [111:28.120 --> 111:36.160] been saying, no other cults outside of the south or Atlanta been really pushing for the past few years. So

— [111:36.380 --> 111:44.420] Well that thing got a lot to do with it too. Like LA is gang culture. It's gang culture before hip hop culture. Everything else, yep. You know what I

— [111:44.420 --> 111:52.660] mean? So The idea of everybody getting together is something that everybody feel, but a lot of times don't nobody know how to get it going. You know what I mean?

— [111:52.660 --> 112:00.740] Because of the tension and the separation. The histories and shit. Right. Like people come together when somebody passed. You know what I mean? Like when Nip

— [112:00.740 --> 112:09.360] passed, everybody came together. This was a moment where nobody passed, and it was a celebratory moment that

— [112:09.360 --> 112:17.440] brought everybody together. So that was the whole thing. And like when Drake was like, I'm bigger in the West Coast than you are, how did y'all feel

— [112:17.440 --> 112:28.620] about that when he said that. Did you like that? Did you like that 1? Yeah, that was a good line. Yeah. Yeah. That's

— [112:28.620 --> 112:36.760] a giggle. That's a tickle, man. Yeah. I'm so good about tickling that. Yo, you had a Michael take on Twitter the

— [112:36.760 --> 112:45.240] other day. Oh, yeah, you gon' feel it. No, no, no, listen, it's gon' be quick. I was with him on this 1. What did he say about Michael? Can you repeat

— [112:45.300 --> 112:53.560] The take you had? I said that Bad is a better album than Off the Wall and Thriller. Okay, so then I retweeted and I looked at your tweet

— [112:53.560 --> 113:01.740] and said, are you fucking crazy? I love Bad. Bad's my favorite. Bad is a great album. Bad is a great album. I also

— [113:01.740 --> 113:09.960] understand why people say off the wall is better than Thriller. I get it, right? But when we talk about, you guys to

— [113:09.960 --> 113:18.200] me are 1 of the only institutions that still understand what it takes to create an album. Not just a playlist. So

— [113:18.200 --> 113:26.220] when you listen to an album like Thriller, I think that y'all would get it more than anything to be able to take that many

— [113:26.220 --> 113:34.760] records that got so many different sounds and make it mesh, make it still popular while still representing black sound. It's

— [113:34.760 --> 113:43.220] like, it's a pimple blood a fly. That's my favorite Kendrick album. It's still a cultural record for us,

— [113:44.400 --> 113:52.480] but it still had the opportunity to penetrate pop culture in a way that no 1 else was able to do. So how could you have

— [113:52.480 --> 114:00.900] that thought when it comes to Bad and Thriller and all that? Well, first you got to view it like I was born in 82, right? Thriller came out in 82.

— [114:00.900 --> 114:09.020] 82, yeah. Bad came out in 87, so I'm 5. So that's my era. You felt the effects. You felt different. Of Michael

— [114:09.020 --> 114:17.100] Jackson, just during that timeframe. So like I had to go back to Thriller and Thriller and Off the Wall that's coming

— [114:17.100 --> 114:25.980] off of the disco era too. And I think Bad just had more variety of sound than

— [114:25.980 --> 114:34.220] the other ones. Because both of those 2 albums was for sure. It was mostly dance

— [114:36.740 --> 114:44.740] music. But the age thing makes sense. Yeah, it's like when you start talking about Big Daddy Kane or Rakim today Niggas don't understand what

— [114:44.740 --> 114:53.040] them niggas was doing outside when we was kids. Like them niggas was getting looked at like gods when we was kids. Or if you try to explain pop to somebody today,

— [114:53.740 --> 115:01.840] they be like, man, pop, y'all niggas be gassin'. Nah, that nigga was- And the flip side to that, like when niggas tried to explain young boy to you today. They

— [115:01.840 --> 115:09.920] corrected us. The age goes both ways. They corrected us. And I immediately came in here and said, yo, I'm wrong, but I understand. And the thing is too, it's like,

— [115:09.920 --> 115:18.260] I think it's about core memories true true I'm that age Like it ain't him seeing these things that

— [115:18.260 --> 115:26.980] stick with you for life You know saying thriller didn't do that for me because I wasn't around You remember the bad tour right?

— [115:27.120 --> 115:35.120] I get you white people falling out Army and running with I

— [115:35.120 --> 115:43.160] can understand someone saying I Appreciated the bad moment. Yeah or the that era more than a thriller cuz I think the bad era

— [115:43.160 --> 115:51.280] was his greatest era, period. But when it comes to that album and being able to go from track 1 to track 9 every song be different Rock and

— [115:51.280 --> 115:59.280] roll r&b pop and make it all make sense sonically It so you listen to thriller when they come on. Yeah,

— [115:59.380 --> 116:08.260] really when I listen to that. Yeah I'm not I'm not a the only the only song I don't listen to is Paul McCartney. Which

— [116:08.260 --> 116:16.290] 1? Girl is mine. Girl is mine. You don't listen to that song? No, and on Off the Wall, I don't listen to Burn This Disco out, I don't listen to It's the Falling love, I don't

— [116:16.290 --> 116:24.970] listen to girlfriends. On bad, I don't listen to just friends. That's the only 1 on bad. I'm waiting to hear

— [116:25.260 --> 116:33.420] another 1. I'm skipping the way you make me feel. What? Sometimes. Sometimes. The way you make me feel sometimes. Put your micro card on the table right there. Put your micro card on the table.

— [116:33.420 --> 116:41.480] We understand what you're saying. You got it. That's peace. That's peace. That's peace. Is there something that you want people to know about you

— [116:41.480 --> 116:50.300] that they just don't because you're so private and mysterious? No,

— [116:50.300 --> 117:00.300] it's not like that where I just want somebody to know something but if somebody was the axe like I'm open book I

— [117:00.300 --> 117:08.460] don't know. Holy shit. You, yo. You have no idea what open book means. Yo, the libraries in California are different, but they got some different books. You were open book with different books.

— [117:08.460 --> 117:16.480] You were open book with the pages stuck together, man. Oh, pages 40. Oh, page 109. You probably mean when the book is closed, but you got a bookmark where

— [117:16.480 --> 117:24.580] you put it. That's probably what it means. Now we get it. Crazy. But nah, I don't know man, I don't know. I guess it's genetics, it's environment.

— [117:25.180 --> 117:33.860] How you feel about love? Love? How you feel about love? I love love. Oh nah, I don't like his answer. I

— [117:33.860 --> 117:42.320] love love. I love love, it's sick. He bodied that. Can't, what you gonna reply with? I mean I have something I would like to reply with but I just don't know if it's appropriate

— [117:42.320 --> 117:50.940] Right now I'm trying to think all the married niggas in TD. Mm-hmm Are you married? Yes, sir Come

— [117:50.940 --> 117:59.320] on now, come on you good I'm good now What's your hobbies outside of music? No, I'm not off marriage I'm not off marriage. Do you have any words of advice

— [117:59.420 --> 118:07.520] or tips for me and Freeze who are looking to be married soon. Like what's your advice for the people that will be married in

— [118:07.520 --> 118:15.640] the next year or 2? What are some of the things that, yeah? You gotta Tell

— [118:15.640 --> 118:24.060] her she's right all the time. Oh, yeah. Save you some peace. Finally, someone that gets it. He ain't gonna do that.

— [118:24.080 --> 118:32.520] Oh, shit. Yo, Sasha. Yo, Sasha. Sasha's right. What you say, Sasha? Finally, someone that gets it. It's true.

— [118:32.780 --> 118:41.140] But you know another thing though, like. Yeah, it's all back and I'm making moves. When you with somebody, you gotta

— [118:41.920 --> 118:50.340] liking them is more important than love. Yeah, love, love, love. Yeah, that's a fact. You know what I mean? Because it's easy to love somebody from a distance, but they'll fall out. Right

— [118:50.820 --> 118:59.000] But you have to actually like them as a person And you'll get you'll get far with that and clear communication of course. You got it.

— [118:59.100 --> 119:07.740] You got it How old were you? I know you said you're 44. How old were you when you felt like you had the husband shit down to a tee? 43

— [119:10.660 --> 119:18.660] You know it's a constant learning like you don't ever feel you have it down It's certain things that you get better at, but

— [119:18.660 --> 119:27.140] I don't think you never actually get it fully. And there's some shit you will forget to be good at. That's important to her, right? Yeah.

— [119:27.140 --> 119:35.540] And there's some shit that she's going to change. But on top of that, you're constantly just growing in age as a person so you experience in a new level

— [119:36.140 --> 119:44.360] Every time you you know me Yeah Money start changing some shit, too. What do you think is more difficult

— [119:44.380 --> 119:52.380] to? Put in the order to pre not put a post not I Have no idea bro, That's not my, that's not my lane at

— [119:52.380 --> 120:00.420] all. Well, mine neither. I figured once you in love and you married, what's the new reason for you to share it all? Yeah, I ain't got no money when I, when we got married. Oh, get out. Yeah, I ain't

— [120:00.420 --> 120:08.940] got no money. How long you been married? That's why I am. 21 years. Oh, wow. That's fire. Come on, y'all. Come

— [120:08.940 --> 120:17.420] on, y'all. That's fire, nigga. I be so jealous of these niggas that say that. That's fire. Yo, I met my wife and didn't have shit.

— [120:18.260 --> 120:26.640] Look around, look at us now, 24 years. I be like, that's it? Oh, that's dope. Nigga married and made not like us.

— [120:27.860 --> 120:37.260] That nigga didn't give a fuck. That's some shady shit. All that beef shit going on. Nigga going home to his wife. Oh my God, that's horrible.

— [120:39.220 --> 120:49.440] What else I want to know from Punch? Favorite song on Iceman? What? Nigga. He

— [120:49.440 --> 121:01.120] didn't come out yet. He got it though. That's how you get a good evergreen. That's how you make a clip last for eternity. I

— [121:01.120 --> 121:09.560] thought you lost your mind. No, no, no, that's how you make it last. We got punch here, but that shit dropped. They're gonna be posting, hey, what's your favorite drag on Iceman? Look at the look of stupid. Look.

— [121:10.420 --> 121:18.840] Yeah. Yeah. They're gonna be on our ass. They're gonna be on our ass, cause when this dropped, this is right the week before. Oh, for sure. Oh,

— [121:18.840 --> 121:26.840] I'm not. Hey Drake fans, I'm not paying y'all no mind to week of May 8th. It's not your time yet. That is Chris Brown time. Talk to him. And I'm not

— [121:26.840 --> 121:34.940] thinking nothing about you niggas ice man frost man See man or none of that. But the next week, I'm all

— [121:34.940 --> 121:43.160] yours. Not this week. Not this week. I'm on Chris Brown time. 27 joints, 27 songs. I'm on Chris Brown

— [121:43.160 --> 121:51.180] time. The feature list is already. Sorry, see the features? Hey, but the feature list out. Yeah, of course he got fucking Sexy Red on here. That's okay. Come on, yo. What are you doing

— [121:51.180 --> 121:59.340] that, yo? Skip! I'm hitting this guy. Watch that shit be fire. Oh my God, you guys. You saw the artwork for it,

— [121:59.340 --> 122:07.560] right? I did. You didn't see the artwork for it? That's your cousin. What that mean? I'm shaking the artwork of your family, nigga. Nigga, I'm busy.

— [122:07.560 --> 122:15.680] Same way he busy. You're not too busy to be your cousin. Yeah, make time for your family. For your dog. Well, that is funny. But outside of Sexy Ready, you got Leon Thomas,

— [122:15.680 --> 122:23.780] Tank, Vibes, Cartel, Bryson, Youngboy, Glorilla, Friday, and Lucky Day. That Chris Brown Vibes Cartel? That's gonna

— [122:23.780 --> 122:32.160] be full Chris Brown Lucky Day, nigga? No, no, that Vibes Cartel 1 song. Lucky Day don't matter, you put the single out with Leon, nigga, don't put it, You

— [122:32.160 --> 122:40.220] put Lucky Day on the album. The single Leon. What I'm happy about ain't no Afrobeats features up here. No, but you got vibes, nigga. Chris

— [122:40.220 --> 122:48.320] Brown is that nigga on Afrobeats. I know. You think they're going to do the Afrobeat on him? I'm just saying, last

— [122:48.320 --> 122:56.340] ones, we had the features up there. I'm saying Chris Brown over Afrobeat. Unstoppable. You don't want to be that nigga alone.

— [122:56.480 --> 123:05.220] Yeah, no, for real. What's the last song you ended up liking that you didn't like initially? That's a good-ass question. Family

— [123:05.220 --> 123:13.320] Matters? Man. Jeez, tough question. Iceman gonna shoot the shit out of punch. I ain't gonna

— [123:13.320 --> 123:21.420] lie, boy. I don't know what you're doing May 15th. But, yeah, You too, you might get some shots

— [123:21.420 --> 123:29.640] there. You're a group everybody. Daylight? Yeah for sure. I can't

— [123:29.640 --> 123:39.080] wait, I can't wait after Chris Brown. But last song that you liked that initially you was like what the fuck is going on here? Bro

— [123:39.080 --> 123:47.480] I can't think of any I usually don't return Like it any artist you wish you Y'all could have got that's out good

— [123:47.480 --> 123:57.120] question Like damn we could have got her or her No,

— [123:57.120 --> 124:05.620] and I'm gonna say no because I just think things work out how they supposed to work out the end of the day.

— [124:05.620 --> 124:13.620] Like it was a bunch of artists like that was around that we could have signed. It just didn't happen and I don't look back like. Did y'all

— [124:13.620 --> 124:22.100] shoot for them? And it just didn't like, did y'all be like, yo, we interested? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, we interested, but the paperwork wasn't right. It just went as far as conversations.

— [124:22.460 --> 124:30.940] Gotcha. You know what I mean? And, you know, just didn't work out. But I don't ever focus on, man, we could have did this. I'm more focused on

— [124:30.960 --> 124:39.300] where we at and where we going. Has any of them artists that, you know, it didn't happen there, went on to have like successful careers?

— [124:40.340 --> 124:48.680] Yeah, Janay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I am. Yeah, I miss Janay. I miss Janay's music so much.

— [124:48.680 --> 124:57.100] She got to drop. And she don't have to drop. Janay gets a different type of grace. I got to talk about her house burned down, and getting the fires,

— [124:57.340 --> 125:05.380] going through a divorce. She'll have as much time as she needs. I'm cool with it. But we do miss her. Yeah, shout out to Janaye. Doja Cat too, she was in

— [125:05.380 --> 125:13.680] the studio with us early. Moose had meetings with her. Those are artists I got passed up on. Mm-hmm. Were

— [125:13.680 --> 125:21.780] you at last year's Met Gala? No. I mean, I never actually went. Were you in the same city that

— [125:21.780 --> 125:30.160] the Meg Gala was in last year? Were you thinking about them clips that came out? Which 1? 0, the umbrellas? That

— [125:30.160 --> 125:38.580] was hilarious. You seen Moose and Runnin' getting on brother? Yeah. It's about the Dochi joint. Yeah. I'm such a mess. She's nothing.

— [125:39.100 --> 125:47.220] I had to add that. She was letting them niggas have it. She a star nigga, yeah. Oh my God, yo. Do you feel like stars should

— [125:47.220 --> 125:55.360] be able to get like get shit like that off or was the Met Gala the appropriate? Yeah, I'm about to be seen. That's why I'm not really asking

— [125:55.360 --> 126:03.460] him about dochi in the Met Gala cuz the circumstances They but period like well. Yeah Pressure yeah, it's high pressure They

— [126:03.580 --> 126:11.760] people you know saying you want something to be perfect You want the workout how you planned it? Are you seen it in your head and if things aren't going that way like

— [126:11.800 --> 126:20.460] it caused a little feeling? What was her workout regimen before this last Met Gala? It's

— [126:20.460 --> 126:28.520] pretty good though whatever she's doing Did y'all see your outfit no, I saw her the Megalos Yeah, I was saw her

— [126:28.520 --> 126:36.700] the outfits about the clothes that Megalos know it's about both. No, do she do she and We need we need to start saying this more,

— [126:37.020 --> 126:45.580] because this industry doesn't big up dark skinned women the way that they should. She is fire. Yeah. Her

— [126:45.580 --> 126:53.660] look, her style, everything. Her personality, all that shit. When she came up here, she kind of had us like, oh shit, shorty's. We should be able to swoon over

— [126:53.660 --> 127:01.660] her, the way niggas be swooning over some of these other girls that ain't really, like we go crazy over the ice spice look. As far as what people

— [127:01.660 --> 127:09.700] like to think that we talk to about when it comes to a good-looking woman, but Ain't a lot of women that look as good as dochi true She's absolutely

— [127:09.700 --> 127:18.200] great. I still like that shit. She said about straight man That's

— [127:18.200 --> 127:28.860] the moment that I That's when you switched up, right? That's when I switched. That's the moment that I switched. Not all that playing shit. Why that bother you though? See what I'm saying? Things

— [127:28.860 --> 127:36.960] that make you go, I'm not fucking with you. Yo, You're so much cooler than me. 1 day I'm going to be as cool as you though,

— [127:36.960 --> 127:45.260] and then stuff like that won't get to me at all. It won't get to me at all. It shouldn't have. You're right. Like, there ain't nothing on business. It wasn't for us. There ain't nothing on business.

— [127:45.330 --> 127:53.400] I didn't like that shit though. I didn't like that shit at all, but It's fine. It's fine. I don't have nothing else for punch I didn't want to interview punch at all.

— [127:53.400 --> 128:02.660] I just wanted punch to come up here chill have some tacos Tacos was late. You know, I told you thinking about tacos Tom

— [128:02.660 --> 128:10.800] we we eat at 2 3rd, but we're here now. I don't have any more questions for Bunch. This was absolutely amazing. If Iceman is a 5 mic

— [128:10.800 --> 128:18.820] album, are you going to say it publicly? 5 mic? They still do 5 mics? No, but I saw it. You know, but it is. No, it's over there. Nah, if it's a good

— [128:18.820 --> 128:27.220] album, it's a good album. Will you say it or will you just know it in secrecy? Probably know it in secrecy. Smart. Honest.

— [128:27.260 --> 128:35.270] Honest. Cause of these fan bases, man. Yeah, you can't do it. And cause of who he is, he can't come out there. But nah, honestly bro, I don't care about none of that. No

— [128:35.270 --> 128:43.620] honestly, it might hit even harder. Like yo, this shit all right. Yeah, I don't know. Unless he just shooting at the team crazy. Oh yeah. No, I mean you can't say it, but. But even

— [128:43.620 --> 128:51.880] in that, right? Yeah. Like even if you write about that and who knows what to be on this shit, but will any part of you or the crew? No

— [128:51.880 --> 129:00.200] matter whether it's a diss or not feel proud of having contributed to the person that What have you had different person

— [129:00.200 --> 129:08.460] on ice man? Like will y'all be like? It'll be cause yeah, that was gotta be more that was us we did that you got to take a little product

— [129:08.460 --> 129:16.700] you gotta be more I was yeah I think that's the that's the point with us you know then if we off

— [129:16.700 --> 129:24.720] track we got to get each other back on track to whatever that is. You know what I mean? So... True introspection. But when you say us, you're referring

— [129:24.720 --> 129:32.840] just to culture. Exactly. Oh, real quick before you go, do you think it's too far gone? Is there ever a day where we can get a Jay

— [129:32.840 --> 129:40.880] and Nas moment out of the 2 men? In your opinion? Honestly at this point

— [129:40.880 --> 129:48.900] I don't know because like I said there's a lot of things that been said you know what I'm saying and bubble behind the scenes too

— [129:49.460 --> 129:57.480] so like if those things were to get ironed out. You have to start there first. Right. With you.

— [129:58.110 --> 130:06.480] If he's been too crazy on the album, doubling back. Nah. Nah? I mean, I wouldn't advise

— [130:06.480 --> 130:14.560] it. Again, people are grown men, but... You're gonna do it over here. It's like after everything that happened and how far it went

— [130:15.000 --> 130:23.100] to lawsuits and this whole thing, it's like... So that's what you're referring to when you say behind the scenes stuff, that was done? I know you said that a couple of times, your behind the scenes

— [130:23.100 --> 130:31.100] stuff. What can you share with your boy? You gotta just go shoot out. What can you share with your boy? You gotta shoot out this

— [130:31.100 --> 130:39.100] nigga, yo. What behind the scenes shit that nigga did that just filed? Like, oh, nigga, this is bullshit. It's just certain principles we stand on, bro,

— [130:39.100 --> 130:47.460] and there's certain things you don't speak about at the end of the day. Well, Punch, I'm grateful that you

— [130:48.440 --> 130:57.880] said as much as you said. I appreciate y'all man. Our doors always open. You know that. We've sent 95 artists up this motherfucker. But

— [130:58.520 --> 131:06.780] yeah, we'll have our private text after May 15th. Keep it between me and you. Absolutely. Lady and gentleman, please. Yo,

— [131:06.780 --> 131:15.080] real quick, real quick, can I promote? Please. Of course you can, that's what we here for. So we got, well for 1, I Am Lyric, her project

— [131:15.480 --> 131:23.780] EP is out, it's called Blackbird EP. Hey Lyric! And it's dope. And on top of that we got Isaiah Rashad. He just released

— [131:23.780 --> 131:31.940] this project. Yeah. It's called It's Been Awful. Yeah. Great title. Great title, great title. Yo, It's Been Awful! I

— [131:31.940 --> 131:40.160] loved that. I did not know that. It's a good project. Yeah, I appreciate that. Nah, that's a fire title, yo. It's been

— [131:40.160 --> 131:48.200] awful. It's been awful. Yo, has there been, this is my final question, Has there ever been, has there been any fucking recourse for Homeboy

— [131:48.200 --> 131:57.040] to do that fuck shit? Who? What'd I say? The leak. Yeah, the leak. Oh shit. No. But that's revenge. Mm-mm.

— [131:57.040 --> 132:06.800] Oh yeah, they go to him. Oh yeah, you know what that mean. Oh yeah, we know. We know. Oh shit. Oh yeah. Beep bop boom bop boom bop bam. You wouldn't understand. Fuck,

— [132:06.800 --> 132:15.640] I told them. Oh my God, Anybody else have any final questions for Punch? No, this was great. No, this was amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for

— [132:15.640 --> 132:24.080] Punch. Yes, sir. Woo. Appreciate it. Nah, keep it going. Woo. Woo.

— [132:24.280 --> 132:33.976] God, man. What was that, the ice noise? The wind. For punch

— [132:35.244 --> 132:43.560] Now keep it going We'll be right back It's coming. Icing. It's coming. Icing. Oh, man. You gotta hold it. Better grab a jacket. All right, don't touch that down. We'll be right back.

— [132:48.720 --> 132:56.780] It's cold. Shot the punch, my nigga. Yeah, that was great. Punch was fine. I'm sorry, immature. I look at you,

— [132:56.980 --> 133:05.500] you being immature. That's why you're in my life, you're immature. You're an idiot, bro. It's any amount of ice sound. It's

— [133:05.500 --> 133:13.620] like the whistle of Bob. Wendy. All Right punch was great. That was great unexpected punch was absolutely great

— [133:14.080 --> 133:22.100] unexpected Shout out to Amani for being a messy bitch, asking him, yo, you mind if we talk to him for a little bit and punch that? Nah, I don't mind

— [133:22.340 --> 133:30.360] at all. That was the most honest, guarded conversation I've seen anyone have with us. Oh, he kept it a beat. He was just.

— [133:30.360 --> 133:38.500] If y'all ain't asking me, I ain't just volunteering or information. Yeah, like you said him open book ask me something No, I like that. I never

— [133:38.500 --> 133:49.200] met him. I like Punch is a good guy No, all jokes aside. He is a good guy for he is a good guy On

— [133:49.200 --> 133:57.200] the road I see trouble right there I feel great random tacos. Tacos we finally ate.

— [133:57.200 --> 134:05.980] Yeah. We finally ate. Well, I did, but. Well, you're not allowed to eat. That's true. Yeah, say something. Yeah, you're not. I'm not allowed. So

— [134:06.100 --> 134:15.120] I got dinner planned, do you know what I mean? That's nice. That's peace. Speaking of rim, and in honor of rim, I've

— [134:15.120 --> 134:23.260] started planning my birthday party a little earlier than I intended. Oh, nice. Okay. What'd you come up with? Top

— [134:23.260 --> 134:32.080] secret. But in honor of Rem, it is gonna say on my invite. Have a speech ready? You gotta have a speech. If you are in attendance, You

— [134:32.080 --> 134:40.160] are subject to give a speech that says how Joe Button positively impacted your life. Seriously. Anybody that's there, rim kill that shit.

— [134:40.160 --> 134:48.380] I'm doing it. It wasn't a pod schtick. I'm stealing it. So that shit was fired away. She did that. It made the party. It

— [134:48.380 --> 134:56.640] kind of made the party to me. And I'm watching people that like, you could tell that's not their strong suit. Yeah. But

— [134:56.720 --> 135:05.100] it was just, and it's an easy fix to 1 of my biggest problems at my last birthday dinner which was there's

— [135:05.100 --> 135:13.260] so many different people here from so many different parts of my life and if the music is just playing and everybody's just you know

— [135:13.260 --> 135:21.360] like you're saying then we missing some of the a lot of the people are in here are in here because there's great personalities in here. Like you should hear some

— [135:21.360 --> 135:29.460] of them. We could cut down Bill Withers for a second and do this. And I think that's just a fly way to be communal. You're

— [135:29.460 --> 135:37.540] inviting a lot of people to this 1? Or you're shortening down the list? Well last year I invited a lot of people but my birthday or the dinner at least fell on

— [135:37.540 --> 135:45.980] Labor Day weekend So a lot of people was gone a lot of people was traveling This year not so much My birthday

— [135:46.040 --> 135:54.180] the 29th of people the 29th is a Saturday and Labor Day weekend is the next weekend. Yeah, so that's nice That's

— [135:54.180 --> 136:02.280] nice. That's nice. So I'm putting the speeches on the fly. I like it. D. Nice is confirmed. Whoo D. Nice is confirmed That's actually

— [136:02.520 --> 136:10.720] the speeches and D. Nice hitting me to confirm some shit when I wasn't planning on having a party. I was like, all right, it's May. Yeah, it's

— [136:10.720 --> 136:18.900] May already. Holy shit. Yo, like he probably was 1 of the biggest come ups from COVID? Him and Pfizer.

— [136:23.960 --> 136:32.060] The grocery store. I did not realize how close we are to August, September. I was so

— [136:32.060 --> 136:40.180] confused. The United States hit me the other day like, yo, I'm free to 29th, locking it in. I owe you 1. I'm doing a US open the day before and a day after so lock it now if you want it if you free if you're

— [136:40.180 --> 136:48.260] Having a party if you're not having a party school fire. Oh, okay. I'm having a party We're having a party. Yeah, that's very easy doing the

— [136:48.260 --> 136:58.780] US open a day before and a day after yeah, yeah In the middle of Serena, I'm already Called

— [136:58.780 --> 137:06.820] shorty Danielle. Hey Danielle that helped me plan my shit last year. And I was like, what places

— [137:06.820 --> 137:14.840] can we live, places you got out there? So I'll send you some options of, some fly shit? Stress

— [137:14.840 --> 137:23.100] code. Yeah. We should have a dress code. You should. We know the future, but you should have a dress code. Don't put like, yo, dress like you've been so in.

— [137:23.100 --> 137:31.400] No, no, no. Let these motherfuckers know. We got to tell them. Black tie, summer suit, or... Because if not, DBSC are coming in his workout

— [137:31.420 --> 137:40.260] clothes. We got to tell these niggas, DBSC, I love you, but enough is enough. Fuck that. Mecca came in his finest of hoodies. I

— [137:40.260 --> 137:48.340] let Mecca do what he wants because he fucked some porn stars but come on. That isn't qualified. Yeah no you fucked some porn stars you get more grace than me

— [137:48.340 --> 137:56.820] than normal niggas. I seen him I seen him in SOBs that night. He had the whole SOBs like, Her?

— [137:56.820 --> 138:05.940] His dad. That's right. Niggas were so confused. See? Joe Mack, I'm behind his back trying to fuck too. See my point? Y'all. That's

— [138:05.940 --> 138:23.200] a joke. What you say? That's a joke. He's behind his back trying to fuck too. That's a joke. I wish I wish I could tell the story about what I Stop,

— [138:23.200 --> 138:32.140] because Isch should stop believing this stuff. But that's his bag. Isch should stop. No, stop. I don't want Isch to think that of me. What's my bag? He already think that. What's my bag?

— [138:32.660 --> 138:40.740] I'll pry you up, nigga. That's your bag, nigga? That's your bag, nigga. You fuck behind niggas. Is you never dirty, Mac? Never.

— [138:43.160 --> 138:51.260] It's not my bag. You good? Allergies? The cold? The wind? You might as well swallow 1 of them cups nigga you can't never

— [138:55.120 --> 139:03.320] Not even say anything Would you fuck behind it? I will surely have You do you do

— [139:03.320 --> 139:11.400] you do you do you do if you want to you talk since you call me out of play you do a reverse dirty Mac. No, I don't. I tell me I have. What's the reverse? What's the, what's

— [139:11.400 --> 139:19.400] the, bigger nigga? They talk good about your dude. I don't even, I don't even. Encourage you. He should never leave us. He's a good friend. Nah,

— [139:19.400 --> 139:27.700] he do it right by you. Nah, stay right there. He do that. He niggas. He do reverse

— [139:27.700 --> 139:35.880] dirty mac. Nah, you was wrong in that 1. You owe him an apology. I can see why he beat you there. Any man

— [139:35.880 --> 139:43.980] would feel that way. Come on. Go back clean back First of all, you do clean

— [139:43.980 --> 139:52.400] back in boy. If I don't know that nigga, I don't want to talk about your dude what if you do know and what if you start talking I don't know

— [139:52.500 --> 140:00.920] what if she's done know the nigga I'm gonna act like I don't know what if she start talking to you about do I say you want to talk about it yeah what do you do You

— [140:00.920 --> 140:15.400] say yo don't talk to me about you like yo you dead wrong after this you should go back He mean it like that yo That's

— [140:15.400 --> 140:23.420] a brand new Mac That's your fresh out the box Get him trouble if you meet a nigga if you meet a chick right

— [140:24.260 --> 140:32.320] you meet a chick that got a man. Yeah. Cool. Mute up a man. Y'all start kicking it, chopping it up. You find out her man is blah blah blah

— [140:32.320 --> 140:40.460] that you know if he not my friend. I don't know him I'm never gonna remotely tell you I know your man, but what if he's doing big things and

— [140:40.460 --> 140:48.580] he a big dog Yeah, her man is a big like big dogs Guess what It's more than 1 dog in the motherfucking doggy

— [140:48.580 --> 140:57.100] park. But you're not going to acknowledge that he's a big dog in his space or at what he does? You got to clarify. I'm elaborating. What

— [140:57.120 --> 141:05.340] if the guy's popular? What if he's not? It's his business. Huh? He didn't ask you. Hey, yo, yo, maybe I'm mistaken. Did you ask Imani something?

— [141:06.160 --> 141:15.860] I was trying to help with that. No, he don't need y'all. He don't need y'all right now. Okay, so Imani, so whatever, you just gonna act like you don't know him? Yo, you paid him? Yeah.

— [141:15.860 --> 141:23.900] Oh, you mean like if he famous famous. Yeah, I don't know him Oh, you still don't know him. Okay, like if I know who he is I won't

— [141:23.920 --> 141:33.060] I'm talking about if I know a chick man, like if I know him personally, I'm gonna Know your man Okay,

— [141:33.280 --> 141:42.960] you said we got no askin. Oh, we got it. We're saying Okay. You said I'm going to ask him. We got it. We got it. Shut your. How much is he worth? Nothing

— [141:42.960 --> 141:52.720] to do with me. Honey mill for him. You got it, bro. We

— [141:52.720 --> 142:00.880] somehow during our taco break bumped into what I thought was a good discussion. Great discussion. I don't remember how we landed

— [142:00.900 --> 142:09.860] on it but I don't remember how we landed on Plymouth Rock either. Oh no, I remember. You do? Yeah. We were teasing E a little bit, and then- Per

— [142:09.860 --> 142:18.100] usual. And then we started talking about how a lot of bad chicks

— [142:18.420 --> 142:26.420] don't have to do much because they'd be super duper bad pillow princesses Yeah, and I said the same thing with money like a lot of niggas with money They're not out here trying to

— [142:26.420 --> 142:34.660] make you come 77 times because they don't have to do that so then We talked about how a lot of bad like super bad chicks

— [142:34.720 --> 142:42.840] They do be regular dude and y'all was like yeah, and they'll never get another tip from me And I said that's crazy to me I'm like dog because I respect

— [142:42.840 --> 142:51.380] the super duper duper bad chick when she got a regular boyfriend I respect that shit wholeheartedly. I look at them differently actually. Why? Because

— [142:51.380 --> 142:59.620] it- I get it, I get it why. It means like you just not in it for the money or the shallow shit. Like if you, it's a super duper bag. Sasha, get your fuck up Sasha.

— [142:59.620 --> 143:07.740] No, no, I do, I understand. You totally understand. You get here, right? You feel him on this, huh? I do. I do because I would look at it

— [143:07.740 --> 143:15.820] that way. She doesn't care about material stuff. Like, yo, dog. It's not true. Listen, I'm talking about a regular dude. Like, nigga

— [143:15.820 --> 143:23.860] might make regular money. And he look regular. The super bad chick might just have a nigga that she can control because he's

— [143:23.860 --> 143:32.180] a regular nigga But she's still doing her bullshit on the side. That's possible, but you added that I'm talking about that's her That's her main boyfriend That

— [143:32.180 --> 143:40.320] means she not looking for the nigga with the Rolls Royce or the thing I jumped in y'all and you said she won't ever get another tip for me and I said Joe well Well assuming that the

— [143:40.320 --> 143:48.440] person we speaking about is in the nightlife because I'm not just applying No, it's regular women in the world, bro. You know that right? And if you all were having that talk I would mute up because I don't know nothing about them.

— [143:48.440 --> 143:56.480] Oh. That's nice. You were having that conversation. Oh, no, no, no, no. All right, so rock out. No, no, no, no. Why would I jump in a regular girl conversation? Yo,

— [143:56.480 --> 144:04.540] that's crazy. You're gonna shit me. Eww, right? Go ahead. I'll tell y'all word for word. What they doing? It's crazy. What's the regular girl? You 2

— [144:04.540 --> 144:12.540] niggas, this is the king of the regular girls. The king of the reds. Wait, wait, what's the king, wait, wait, wait, wait. The king of the reds. Wait, wait, wait, and what are y'all? And what

— [144:12.540 --> 144:20.561] are y'all? I'm married, and I'm almost married. This nigga is really Hopping Bob, bro. And I'm almost married. Hopping Bob? Yes. What do you describe by,

— [144:20.561 --> 144:28.780] I don't know, fuck Hopping Bob. Life, you ever seen Life? Eddie Martin. Oh yeah, yeah. What do you define as regular though? Regular girl. What y'all was saying just now? No, that's, I don't, he was saying

— [144:28.780 --> 144:36.900] something different. So you say anybody not in the Nightlife is a regular girl? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Anybody not in Nightline. That's not what you said. Yes, he is. That's fine. Secret list. I ain't copying what I'm saying,

— [144:36.900 --> 144:45.300] niggas. I ain't telling you what I really mean. Yeah, If

— [144:45.300 --> 144:53.460] y'all was having that, I wouldn't have jumped in that. But I'm saying when I learned what y'all are talking about in nightlife, like you

— [144:53.460 --> 145:01.520] follow the bartender page and then you hit the button. And she on there with her real boyfriend she been with for 7 years.

— [145:01.520 --> 145:09.840] Is super in love with not leaving he got on stonewash Paco Capris Some funny looking

— [145:09.840 --> 145:18.220] belt he got the sterling silver bullshit 100 of them on a bandana a wave cap over it's like be looking nuts.

— [145:18.420 --> 145:26.760] So you look at her. You'll never get another dollar. So you look at her different vibes. You will never get tipped again. Why? Friday night, Saturday night. Why? That's never happened. Why?

— [145:26.760 --> 145:34.760] Why though? Why? Never happened. Because I get this too though. You got the nigga with the kango hat. You don't want support bro. You got the nigga with the Kango hat? He don't want support bro. She don't got

— [145:34.760 --> 145:42.760] standards. Or she could just look at a bunch of you niggas in the club as a lick. Hold up, hold up, hold up. But she had standards or

— [145:42.760 --> 145:50.860] whatever the case may be a day or so before when you was throwing the money on her, you just didn't know who she was fucking with. Not true, not true. So this is how I look at it. This is how

— [145:50.860 --> 145:59.100] I look at it. You don't want to support dude. I'll give you a music example, right? I'll give you a music example. And I have a few rules of why I'll never tip you. Like most

— [145:59.100 --> 146:07.180] of the nightlife girls out here are Spanish, Costa Rican, Puerto Rican, Dominican, they something, right? If I happen to

— [146:07.180 --> 146:15.320] follow you and I click your story and all week you just with the Spanish's. All month, there's nothing with Spanish people, not a black person around, you never

— [146:15.320 --> 146:23.360] get to it again. Like I got a few little funny rules. But let's get back to this rule, right? 112 left Bad Boy

— [146:24.160 --> 146:32.300] and went to Def Jam. I based so much around this story because I was in the building for this and Def Jam and Kevin Latham, everybody was so hype

— [146:32.300 --> 146:42.100] because 112 is here, and then when they got 112, without Puff, it was different. Niggas is 2-11s. Just,

— [146:42.380 --> 146:50.460] and I'm not saying I fuck with all of them. So I'm just saying, but how they spoke, how they walked, how they talked, how they dressed, everything, the music they made, the thoughts that they came

— [146:50.460 --> 146:58.620] up with was very different on Def Jam without Puff. So Def Jam used to call Puff, like, yo, we having a hard time, and yada

— [146:58.620 --> 147:06.780] yada yai, and Puff used to come up there barking on Def Jam, Like who the fuck y'all thought y'all was playing with? Nigga, it's me. Y'all thought these fucking country ass niggas was cool on

— [147:06.780 --> 147:15.240] they own. Y'all thought the 112 you seen in the videos was dumb. You thought that was dumb. That was me killing Kevin Lyle. I

— [147:15.240 --> 147:23.260] never thought about that. I'm 24. That was my fan since nigga. I'm 24. So the same thing for me applies in the strip club. It's not that the night

— [147:23.260 --> 147:32.100] before you wasn't right. The night before was the strip club market. The night before was the strip club lights. And

— [147:32.100 --> 147:40.460] the strip club smoke. You niggas is crazy. And it was the strip club. Let him finish. It was the strip club's photographer slimming things out

— [147:40.600 --> 147:48.780] and there's a certain allure that comes in there when you in there at midnight, 1 a.m. And when you leave. I get all that. And when you leave, part

— [147:48.780 --> 147:57.180] of the illusion, because I'm from the old school strip club, where illusion was important, part of that illusion is you live that life. And

— [147:57.180 --> 148:05.660] if you click the thing and your boyfriend or whoever you with looks crazy, it tells your customer that

— [148:05.660 --> 148:13.900] you not, that's not, whatever he thought it was, it's not really that in real life. Did you just equate niggas

— [148:13.900 --> 148:21.900] selling albums to people being in love with somebody? No, it's just a, okay. No, I'm not talking about, you love who you want. When he goes to the

— [148:21.900 --> 148:29.937] night life, right, he sees her 1 way. Now, he could see her attachment. Who is she attached to, right? He goes to the story, he could see what kind of man

— [148:29.937 --> 148:38.060] she is. And if it don't fit the mold of whatever your illusion was, I'm not, I'm not, whatever your illusion was, if it don't fit that.

— [148:38.100 --> 148:46.240] So if you click on it. Sorry, buddy. That fantasy leaves, she left me, she's out. So if you click on it. Yo, if you click on some of these bitches shit forget about what you think of a man They would that dude and they on

— [148:46.240 --> 148:54.760] vacation So now you also see where they vacationing. Some bumps. You also see the pool that they in having a blast. It's

— [148:54.760 --> 149:02.940] bum sex. Yeah, like stop playing. You see the bed. You see the- Bum sex. And you like, well buddy, wait a fucking

— [149:02.940 --> 149:11.400] second. And you try to- I get older. Wait a second. I get older. And You try to come to me for that. You fuck with that nigga, you try to come for me for that. Nobody

— [149:11.400 --> 149:19.440] come up here, you went to her job. No, no, no, no, no, no, We didn't go to her job. We went to wherever we went, right?

— [149:19.460 --> 149:27.460] And because the strip club managers, and again, I know way more about strip clubs than normal people. Of course. So I just ain't really for normal people. But

— [149:27.460 --> 149:35.660] it's a strip club manager's decision where product placement is when you walk in. Facts. So the strip

— [149:35.660 --> 149:43.720] club manager knows what customers are coming before they get there. It's their job to put you at bar 1, bar 6.

— [149:44.180 --> 149:52.880] Where they put you is gonna tell you what they think of you off the rip. So sometimes they'll take a bootleg Betty,

— [149:52.880 --> 150:01.200] whatever you want to call her, and put her at the premiere bar right in the front and she's gonna be there nice and quiet not talking not saying nothing under

— [150:01.200 --> 150:09.260] the lights with the smoke looking a certain way. If you're not keeping that same

— [150:09.480 --> 150:17.660] umph without the strip club manager putting it on you, if it looked nuts, if when you walk out of there we

— [150:17.660 --> 150:25.680] we've seen it before but it started sometime back in the day back in the day way back in the day we used to walk out we used to actually bitch you used to go to the cars or they were or they fucking

— [150:25.680 --> 150:33.740] know but say less where you lose it a less where you lose you done you at the club as a I'm

— [150:33.740 --> 150:41.820] not saying you won't fuck them I'm not saying fuck them at all but the days I'm just talking about showering taking your hard-earned dollar

— [150:42.540 --> 150:50.860] tossing it on her and watching her give it to Paco Jean nigga and go be in love in the kiddie whirlpool at the bootleg vacation spot.

— [150:50.860 --> 150:58.900] No, that'll never happen again. Sorry. Sorry, that'll never happen again. You sound like you're crazy. I know, I know, I know. You sound a little... You want somebody to live their

— [150:58.900 --> 151:07.060] life a certain way because you tipped them... Live your rats. Yo, bro. Yes, yes. It's important even for women, especially for women in the nightlife,

— [151:07.060 --> 151:15.300] to live their rats. I do think you sound crazy, but I do also understand that he's talking about throwing 5, 6, $7, 000 on a chick. So because her boyfriend got awesome,

— [151:15.580 --> 151:23.640] sparey topsiders in an Oxford. Yeah. That could be my... You're going too much, man. You got to be kidding me. Yes, it's levels.

— [151:23.640 --> 151:31.840] It's levels. I get it. I get it. I can't believe you said it. And that's why I understand why the world are so unhappy. Yo. So as long as you don't know, we all have Mason and shit on.

— [151:32.080 --> 151:40.200] It is levels. So as long as you don't know it's fine then because you was fine throwing the 05/06/7000 dollars on The night before before you saw anything the

— [151:40.200 --> 151:49.100] same thing as my era of hip-hop when they wouldn't let us go on the radio And say we had a girlfriend. Yes, there you go. That's why Yes,

— [151:49.200 --> 151:57.240] like because the second niggas know they're not gonna apply that pressure like that. It's going to look different. No, niggas going to apply more pressure.

— [151:57.240 --> 152:05.380] Yeah, because if they're like, that nigga pop. No, let's be honest. And he pop? Let's be honest about what it is. Not you, and I won't say

— [152:05.380 --> 152:13.440] everybody, but most of the men that do spend like that, and they spend like that with specific women, is because in their brain, they're

— [152:13.440 --> 152:21.600] waiting to pop, they think they can pop, or they're trying to buy they went their way into popping. So what happens is the ego gets crushed when they

— [152:21.600 --> 152:29.740] gotta see them have to spend all that money and see the regular niggas getting it off a no game. And that's what it really be boiling down

— [152:29.740 --> 152:37.800] to, niggas egos be crushed. I done gave this bitch $47, 000 over the last 6 weeks and she ain't give me nothing. In your level. But a lot of niggas that

— [152:37.800 --> 152:45.900] spend money ain't of caliber. You just have money. Yeah. You still have no taste. Yeah, but you could do a lot with money. Let's be real. With people who give a fuck about it.

— [152:45.900 --> 152:54.020] Obviously the girls that go home to Paco niggas. Massage. So go do it with them. Well no, I'm on it. You can still, money, you can still fuck that girl. It's with the Paco Jean

— [152:54.020 --> 153:02.420] nigga. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe, maybe not. But bigger than that, she don't need his money because I'm making my money at the bar.

— [153:03.240 --> 153:11.480] These niggas is throwing 5 and 6 and 7000 dollars on me. I can go home to my real nigga that I really, really love because I'm getting enough money from these niggas

— [153:11.480 --> 153:19.920] to live whatever lifestyle I want to live. And that's your business. Who you love when you go home is your business. The second that that penetrates where

— [153:19.920 --> 153:28.080] you work, and I'm sorry that I'm the beer of the bad dudes, but in the night life, who you fucking and who you attached to, it is gonna play a

— [153:28.080 --> 153:36.440] part at some point. Yeah, because these niggas be groupies who wanna fuck the same bitches that the other nigga fucked. That's all that. And I'm not saying that that part doesn't exist.

— [153:36.480 --> 153:44.620] But in my talk, I'm only talking about the money niggas that's not pressed to fuck these girls. But Joe, you guys are not talking about those people. It's

— [153:44.620 --> 153:52.660] an anomaly, so let's speak to- Like when Holly worked, when she was dating, it was different. I

— [153:52.660 --> 154:01.740] can believe that. It was different. I can believe that. That don't come off as groupie shit though. No Maybe I'm just not a nice Contradictor

— [154:01.760 --> 154:09.820] to sell like because you said yo, these is money getting niggas That's not interested in fucking a girl. If you're not interested in fucking a girl. She's just a cool I don't

— [154:09.820 --> 154:17.840] care about what the fuck she's just matter money on Oh, that's not the fact that she was dating a homeboy these insecure niggas thought oh she dating him now and he's rich so I

— [154:17.840 --> 154:25.920] ain't got a chance of fucking her So let me keep my money and go over here and throw it on a bitch that I think I got a better chance of fucking No, that's not what I'm saying at all. That's

— [154:25.920 --> 154:34.000] not true. He's saying my look at that That's not significant other who you fuck with well Well, you said it look different Was niggas throwing more money on her when she was fucking her boy or less? Oh boy more more. See

— [154:34.000 --> 154:42.360] I think he was saying more money and that's why I say it come off as groupie shit Oh, 0, that's terrible. That's groupie shit. They was less. No more That's groupie

— [154:42.360 --> 154:50.360] shit because I know that's your nigga now. Let me go make a fucking Niggas wanna get deals Ice wait hold up for a minute and that's why I

— [154:50.360 --> 154:58.480] say I wish at some point I'm gonna ask Sasha to speak Hold up hold up a minute. It's let me just throw on ice and what we saying, right? I In what we saying right We're

— [154:58.480 --> 155:07.500] not saying what we think about it What we're saying is this stuff does matter in that life. Yo, on a Wednesday night, if we all go out to fucking Miss

— [155:07.500 --> 155:16.780] Cheetahs, I'm just freestyling with some shit. And actually I don't have to fuck, yeah, I'll freestyle. If we all go to fucking Miss Cheetahs and it's lit in there And

— [155:16.780 --> 155:24.780] a boogie come in there and sit at this bar Mm-hmm and for the whole night he throw money at this girl not cuz he want to fuck her

— [155:25.000 --> 155:33.340] Just cuz he has money and we was triple up and that's what he's doing that's what's in the section and then he leaves If he never sees that girl again, her next month is gonna be different.

— [155:33.520 --> 155:41.640] 100%. Her whole next month is gonna be different. She lit now. And there's a reason that some of these girls that the girl that was fucking Pop Smoke, the girl that was fucking...

— [155:41.820 --> 155:49.920] There's a reason that some of these... Because niggas is groupies. Because niggas is groupies. That niggas is motivated by what other men are doing. That's what it all boils down to. I get what y'all saying, but

— [155:49.920 --> 155:57.960] the root of that is niggas being groupies for other niggas That's also an easy way to dismiss the illusion point that I'm talking about I'm not dismissing the fact

— [155:57.960 --> 156:05.980] that niggas are groupies. Even in the illusion. I'm not dismissing it. So what's the illusion? The illusion is that she popping down. That illusion that you speak of is

— [156:05.980 --> 156:14.080] still... The illusion is who is this girl that have these celebrity niggas coming to throw money on her? And there's the groupie part because of the celebrity niggas.

— [156:15.040 --> 156:23.140] The illusion is this is like a high-value person. It's no different from if you want to take it to a correlation, someone going to a job and showing up with a nice watch, a nice clothes

— [156:23.140 --> 156:31.380] on, or someone, a rapper that maybe having a day job to keep their fucking life in order while they're figuring it out and they're posting their fucking shift

— [156:31.380 --> 156:39.380] at the fucking Arby's. Yes. Like, no, don't do that. You're a rapper. Don't ever look other than a rapper on your Instagram. You said the girl that you mentioned that she's a high

— [156:39.380 --> 156:47.520] value person? Yes. If you're someone that wants to have tens of thousands of dollars throwing them, that given night should appear that way. There's no nigger. Yes.

— [156:47.520 --> 156:55.520] There's no nigger that's walking into a strip club. Looking for a high value person. And looking at a bartender or stripper and saying, you know what, I'm trying to find a high value person.

— [156:55.520 --> 157:03.840] You're missing what he's saying. You're missing what he's saying. No, I'm not. I understand your analogy, but. And that's why When you see Paco in the story to back up Joe's

— [157:03.840 --> 157:12.320] point, he's like, yo, that shit is gone. I get it. I get it. And he's right. You took the Rolex off and put on the fucking... And that's why everybody... No, he's not following.

— [157:12.540 --> 157:20.540] She's gonna make me kill her. Why, she's right. She's not right. I'm talking specifically in that space. Look at Imani crazy. That's how that shit works in

— [157:20.540 --> 157:28.620] that space. Yo, Imani. It's true-y. She's right, nigga. Shut up. And this 1. Shut the fuck up. Yo, dawg, y'all saying that. She's

— [157:28.620 --> 157:36.760] right, shut up. When Able, he sits down, he throws 10. Yo, let's flip it. Let's flip it real quick before you go. Let's flip it. You know the saying. It's gonna be different. I know

— [157:36.760 --> 157:44.960] what you're about to say and it's different. Let me say it, how is it different? Well let me say it first. Let me say it, let me say it please. You know the saying, more women want you. When you're married.

— [157:45.260 --> 157:53.480] When you're taken. Yeah. They don't want, women don't want a man that no 1 else wants. Yeah, but we talking about niggas with Riz. We ain't just talking

— [157:53.480 --> 158:01.560] about niggas with a girl. Who cares about niggas with a girl? Everybody can be a girl. It ain't hard. We talking about the niggas with Riz. Keep going. That have a girl. When the other girl

— [158:01.560 --> 158:09.760] sees that girl, the effect that it has, what's the difference? I think it's still on really, and it's the same shit. It's the same

— [158:09.760 --> 158:17.860] concept, it's the same concept. It's the same shit. It's the same shit. I'm asking him, so what effect do you think it have? Because some girls will be turned off, and some girls will be turned on. But the saying

— [158:17.860 --> 158:25.940] exists for a reason. More women will want you when you are with them. They don't want you. They want that experience that they can't get on their own. So

— [158:25.940 --> 158:34.160] they're jealous of the actual person that's receiving it. It's all ego and jealousy shit. They want that to be them.

— [158:34.160 --> 158:42.260] That's what it is. Why they want him before? Yeah, they could want all of it. Why they want him before? They could want that person to that lifestyle the woman

— [158:42.260 --> 158:50.380] is getting. Why did they not want him before they saw him out with Shorty? How do you know that she didn't

— [158:50.380 --> 158:58.800] want him before? Cause she ain't given no type of example. The examples we given is a before and after. So the before is before I knew you had Paco man.

— [158:59.380 --> 159:07.400] And then the after. Joe is saying that when a chick now sees you out with your shorty, now she's going to go hard at you because she sees you

— [159:07.400 --> 159:15.480] with your girl. Or if your girl is mid and whack, then, eugh. Then she might not fuck with you. Or a lot of niggas with money

— [159:15.740 --> 159:23.940] got Paco Man mentality, and they really just be motherfucking threatened with the idea that there's a nigga who don't have as much as he has. I think that

— [159:23.940 --> 159:32.160] has the ability to go ahead. Yeah, that's true. They bringing up mad shit that exists. I just don't think none of it is countering the point I'm making. I

— [159:32.160 --> 159:40.300] think any job where you're selling a fantasy and that includes entertainment, that includes strip clubs, that includes a myriad of shit, you should

— [159:40.300 --> 159:48.420] portray that character while you are at work. At all times, anything that's visible to people. So you're forced to now fall in love with

— [159:48.420 --> 159:56.600] someone who you're not supposed to do. I'll give you another bad example. I'll give you another bad example. Shout out to Frank. Every time I'm

— [159:56.600 --> 160:04.640] in here, I watch Frank go crazy, and Frank is the only 1. I see man strip club managers go crazy because their superstar talent is not wearing the heels they're supposed to

— [160:04.640 --> 160:12.940] wear, and they got on some Crocs behind the bar, or some fucking flats, or some fucking bullshit behind the bar, and these strip club managers going there and say,

— [160:13.040 --> 160:21.600] go back there and take that shit the fuck off, or you're fired, or you fucking crazy. And everybody's just be like, The bartenders? Yes.

— [160:21.820 --> 160:30.060] But that makes sense, Joe. That makes sense. Your Paco man is your crocs. No, it's not. No, it's not. Yes,

— [160:30.060 --> 160:38.100] he is. At work. No, they miss it. I don't understand. I don't know what else to tell you. We got a little fantasy, bro, at work. Your Paco, man, that's the croc. But if you're

— [160:38.100 --> 160:46.200] today's strippers and bartenders, or any of these examples that we've given of occupations, once they have the Instagram with 100, 000 people on it, and they're constantly

— [160:46.200 --> 160:54.300] posting them in fucking spandex at the job, you should keep that fantasy alive. That's all. And the second that shit don't, that 1 in 1 don't start

— [160:54.300 --> 161:02.580] looking like 2, it can affect your bottom line. I don't want to argue about whether it's right or wrong. So if old girl breaks up with Paco

— [161:02.580 --> 161:10.720] May and Gets with a ball player rapper nigga too late But but too late now you can get your stock now

— [161:10.720 --> 161:19.080] some chicks graduate and never do it with Paco dudes again But it's tough to get that image. You know a lot of these chicks have Paco niggas at some point. It's tough

— [161:19.080 --> 161:27.200] to get that image of dude out of your brain. Yo, that's crazy. I'm sorry. I am sorry. That is insane to me. You fucked with that. That is

— [161:27.200 --> 161:35.660] the truth. Was she too far gone? And he's doing some other shit? You know why I don't fuck with Ish? Because maybe I'm losing him in the nightlife

— [161:35.660 --> 161:43.680] talk because that's not really his bag, but me and him done had 1000000. So you let Terry Bone, like, it's the same crime that criminals still. No, listen. No,

— [161:43.680 --> 161:51.880] you can't. Sometimes you can't fuck her if Terry ball listen, that's what I thought he was gonna bring up Uh-huh, right when I was like, I know what you're about to say I thought he was gonna

— [161:51.880 --> 162:00.000] say yo will look at a chick And she's dope and you let him pop right or I won't do

— [162:00.000 --> 162:08.140] that based on the dudes Status uh-huh, Like if I know he a dirty or a

— [162:08.140 --> 162:16.320] fuck nigga and you accepted that, then that means anybody can fuck you. If you a solid man but you just don't have no

— [162:16.320 --> 162:24.560] money and you might not be the most fashionable. I don't look at that as a nigga that's a duduk duduk because the duduk duduk could have all the fly shit. You let

— [162:24.560 --> 162:33.040] this piece of shit. It's an example of somebody that we all know and she let a nigga pop that I know. Right. That was a weasel.

— [162:33.040 --> 162:41.140] Yeah. Get in the middle of my guess. Like was a weasel weasel. Yeah. Right. And I looked at her like, she don't know he a

— [162:41.140 --> 162:49.240] weasel. So I gave her a pass. Yeah. Right. So That's something different. That's something different. But if I know you know he a fuck nigga

— [162:49.240 --> 162:57.340] and you still let him pop, then anybody can fuck you. And the difference between that is women are giving up their body, right? They're giving up their body

— [162:57.340 --> 163:05.340] that's supposed to be their temple. So if your body, You not cherishing your body like that. I'm not gonna feel special popping you or fucking with you

— [163:05.340 --> 163:15.280] So I simplify the conversation just a pop and we're talking about a person We

— [163:15.280 --> 163:23.540] talking about somebody We talking about somebody that's in a relationship with someone, so it's past just popping. Like, y'all thinking about just the instant gratification. You

— [163:23.540 --> 163:31.640] merged lives with this Paco jeans nigga. And you not even trying to pop the shit, you still throwing money in. He still not even trying to pop. Why the fuck was you not gonna change

— [163:31.640 --> 163:39.860] your life for you nigga? You not funding this bitch no more, They don't even know what to do with the money. They get in the Paco jeans. Dog, they paying their bills to go to nursing

— [163:39.940 --> 163:48.260] school. So now you want to tell them how they got to live their life because you're tipping them. No, 1 plus 1 has to equal 2. For who? For you? For the person. For the tip. Cool.

— [163:48.260 --> 163:56.440] And for me, in this instance, it's me. The customer. In this instance, it's me. Okay, and there's a lot of customers that do not give a fuck about none of the shit you're saying and are not motivated

— [163:56.520 --> 164:04.620] in this way. Oh, for sure. So if I'm homebrewed behind the bar and I found love with Paco man. Those customers don't tip as much as me. I'm not considerate and I have more

— [164:04.620 --> 164:12.620] respect for her. Back to the original point. Those customers don't tip as much as me. I think she looks at the business the way she should look at the business. None of those customers tip as much as me. Yo bro, I respect that. Or the niggas

— [164:12.620 --> 164:20.860] like me. It does. Them niggas is cool niggas like, oh shit you fucked with Paco. It does. Niggas that's so solid. It does, right? So she should leave her nigger. Niggas

— [164:20.860 --> 164:29.060] want to feel special, that's all it is. You have to, like Hart said, you have to continue to provide that fantasy. How many times y'all seen a girl and once

— [164:29.060 --> 164:40.520] she get pregnant, you like, unfollowed, because you feel like it's nothing there for me bitch. You're pregnant Women

— [164:40.520 --> 164:48.740] when they get married pregnant titties bad chick when her feet look crazy

— [164:48.740 --> 164:56.760] and now you're instantly off. She might be the best person in the fucking world. It's the same surface level shit. Paco G, man, is bad feet. That's not the

— [164:56.760 --> 165:04.900] same. Holy shit. That's not the same. I got turned on by Badgey. So, wait, y'all never follow the girl and then once you felt like oh, there's

— [165:04.900 --> 165:13.100] no chance here. No, I'm not following any girl. She's not following you to meet you. Fuck. Well, I know

— [165:13.100 --> 165:21.300] a few people like that that would follow and then they say, you know. But if you really want to be honest, the way. A kid in marriage can't deter niggas from.

— [165:21.300 --> 165:29.420] That's not true, though. In today's society. I can't, I can't hear y'all. In today's society, women are married. They still fucking. That's a fact. So if you're a real nigga, you know

— [165:29.420 --> 165:37.800] that married women's fucking. They fuck when they're pregnant, too. Yes, they do. I'll take your word for it. Yes they do. I believe y'all. What I'm saying is dog,

— [165:37.800 --> 165:46.140] niggas don't care about that nowadays if that's the case all these baddies that's married wouldn't have no followers. They got zillions of them.

— [165:47.260 --> 165:55.260] Pride ain't gonna let you fuck the girl that got Paco jeans, dude. At some point, male pride should kick in. You got a lot of pride. That's why I'm not paying you no mind no

— [165:55.260 --> 166:03.840] more, cause you just bought it. You got too much pride to even go fuck Paco jeans. These niggas are special. They're anomalies. Antoine,

— [166:03.840 --> 166:12.620] when we was in Squeeze, this story I keep bringing up, and you went to the bathroom, and money came over to me looking for you talking greasy, ready to fucking do some damage, right? When

— [166:12.620 --> 166:20.780] I- He was gonna do damage to you? No, he was gonna do damage to you, right? But when you came out of the bathroom, and I put that little bird in you and you was like who?

— [166:22.200 --> 166:30.400] And I said him yo fam and you looked over there I swear to God Well,

— [166:30.400 --> 166:39.340] maybe I'm getting minute details wrong. You said of my story is very big I

— [166:39.340 --> 166:47.480] wish I would he gave it I was not what happened Joe don't play with me no more. Yeah, you play with him right there. None of

— [166:47.480 --> 166:55.660] that happen ice But you got it What that guy none of that happened Number 1. What is y'all point y'all making? It's got that some

— [166:55.660 --> 167:03.680] of me in them pause. But like when homeboy when all them Puerto Rican niggas about to stab me in the fucking strip club up there because niggas like yo you here to see my girl and I

— [167:03.680 --> 167:11.680] was like who your girl he was like huh and I was like trust me I'm not here to see last person I'm here if there's anybody I'm here to see it

— [167:11.680 --> 167:19.780] ain't that that's all you she got some of that and I'm like me is what I'm saying I wouldn't disagree with

— [167:19.780 --> 167:27.880] that so what are we talking about bro we talking about something totally no we just talking about something different. Bro, a lot of niggas, y'all know what

— [167:27.880 --> 167:35.920] niggas are saying. Yeah, like I'm not, I'm not. You see somebody that's with somebody whack, you looking at the- Whack and broke are different things, bro. You fuck with that, you fuck with- Well,

— [167:35.920 --> 167:44.180] it's where you get broke from. Cause a nigga can be whack and rich. We don't know if a nigga's out there. A nigga can be whack with a Rolls Royce. You said when you go smoke on Shorty Page- I never said nothing about broke. Hold up.

— [167:44.220 --> 167:52.380] Whack them mean you broke, ish? You defined broke. In all of your assessments you gave, you said the niggas is on a little bed in the shit like the nigga got

— [167:52.380 --> 168:00.480] The bomb you see something on shit, but I'm not I don't think a nigga can have a Rolls Royce 77 Rolexes and be a whack ass. That's what I'm saying, but I'm

— [168:00.480 --> 168:08.580] not calling these niggas broke They can have all the money in the world. This is how they chose to style it. I Want to have these guys look at something for you?

— [168:09.540 --> 168:18.600] I wonder how many times 1 of us in here have been that nigga for some I gotta look like him mad Too

— [168:18.600 --> 168:30.460] many to count so in those many to count but in those situations us Bitches also wasn't fucking just pop up. When I was fucking all, I mean. Back

— [168:30.460 --> 168:38.500] in my day, my son was laying it down. They wasn't just fucking posting pictures and stories or fucking like it

— [168:38.500 --> 168:46.700] was a different time. But we knew some of them chicks as niggas. Mm-hmm. We did. That was you. You be knowing. You be knowing more than me. My boy don't play.

— [168:46.700 --> 168:54.820] Are you still with him? My boy don't play. Stay with him. Don't leave him. Don't leave him. You got a good 1. This nigga's

— [168:54.820 --> 169:02.960] a liar. You got a good 1. I'm a clean man. That's your thing boy. He ain't never fucked a single chick. Wow. Oh shit. I know that strategy too.

— [169:03.260 --> 169:11.520] Thank you, Sasha. Thank you. Thank you, Trouble. Come to me and, yo, you got a good man. Oh, so now I'm supposed to think because

— [169:11.520 --> 169:19.660] you said, I got a good man, that you a good man too. Yeah, mute up, E. No. A nigga be like, yo, you got a good man. You gotta stay there. Stop doing that on him. Because we ain't gonna never

— [169:19.660 --> 169:27.940] be doing that. That's a good 1. That's why. No, don't leave him thinking, you gotta start something over here. Don't leave him, I'm popping. Yeah.

— [169:28.220 --> 169:36.560] He's paying, I'm popping. You're his responsibility. He playing house, I'm playing night-night. What the fuck you talking about? No, stay with your other man. She puts

— [169:36.560 --> 169:45.180] you night night and then what? I'm gonna snore and then I'm going home. She gotta stay. There's some strip club managers that

— [169:45.180 --> 169:53.240] say, if you wanna post your personal pictures and shit, go make another page. They don't even let you do that on the page where you promoting the business.

— [169:53.740 --> 170:01.960] You might really fuck up his business. Again, I'm not in the nightlife world, so I'm going to take your word for it. It just sounds a little crazy. Be baby free 1 weekend.

— [170:01.980 --> 170:10.080] What's up? I'm always baby free. Be baby free 1 weekend, give me a text. The nightlife doesn't excite me. But shout me a text 1 weekend. When I got free

— [170:10.080 --> 170:18.080] time, we go do other things. I don't want to go with the strip club. I'm too old for the strip club. Nightlife don't excite

— [170:18.080 --> 170:27.420] him? No. And he ain't coming out cottage cheese. Yeah Still

— [170:27.420 --> 170:35.820] a saint gobble. Yeah. Yeah, get him free I'm not a freak. Super so good. Hey, hey, hey, hey. What, what, what, what you doing? What you doing? And it ain't nobody have a

— [170:35.820 --> 170:44.180] call for that. Nobody have a call for that. Yeah, I, oh, he's a rapper. Super so good. That was crazy. You should've done that. Look, he talk about your poppin' nigga. What? He said it ain't super so good shit.

— [170:44.280 --> 170:52.440] It's a little, it's a green little. Powder? You be concerned with niggas dicks too much, man. No, concerned with a nigga how much nut they put in. Damn, man. Yo, y'all

— [170:52.440 --> 171:00.720] niggas is psycho. You literally asked the R&B nigga the other day, yo, on some real shit, it don't get your dick hard when you sing these notes? Yo, you said,

— [171:00.720 --> 171:08.800] yo, that's, I know. I said that gay shit. That's not what I said. I said, yo, that feeling, it's like a feel like, yo, when you come out and everybody know. He

— [171:08.800 --> 171:17.080] said it worse. I said, yo, when you come out and everybody know all the words to your song. How hard do your dick get? You didn't just say that on the site. I didn't say it. That was the amount.

— [171:17.080 --> 171:25.160] You couldn't wait to get that on the site. Yeah, he had that 1. He had that 1. No, but he started shooting at me and I remember it. Once he started shooting at me, I remember it.

— [171:25.160 --> 171:33.420] No, he said that. Who said that to again? I said how hard you're thinking. Isaiah Aaron. No, you said don't get your dick hard. It don't get your dick hard when they be singing your song lyrics. Yeah,

— [171:33.420 --> 171:41.480] that's not me talking about how much nut is coming out of another man's penis. Oh, that was the same to me. No. Same song. Yo, Hillbilly, super soak it, man. Yeah,

— [171:41.480 --> 171:49.620] what's wrong with you? That's funny. Okay. That's funny. Very funny. The other funny. Yo, boys, stop trying

— [171:49.620 --> 171:57.780] to change your character up here. Hey, yo, fam, hop along. Stop trying to, nah. You not gonna get parole. You gonna be into it. Poor life with anybody else. Yeah,

— [171:57.780 --> 172:05.920] you ain't so tough with Mark in here, boy. I got it. Yeah, you, nigga. I don't need Mark. Stop trying to change your character, bitch-ass nigga. Stop trying to change your character. Change my

— [172:05.920 --> 172:14.060] character? Now I'm up. Stop trying to change your character up here, boy. That's how you got up? You ain't rules. Stop trying to change your character up here. We know how you are, you understand? You always want to seem like you just some

— [172:14.060 --> 172:22.130] cool anomaly nigga, oh not me nigga, shut up nigga. You look at bitches and you see. I love bitches. That's it, you look at women. I look at women. You look at, Paul, I mean, let

— [172:22.130 --> 172:30.320] me finish. I never said I didn't. Let me finish, Paul Jr., MJ, let me finish. You look at the women, and if they was at the... You're judging them. You know, she was with that,

— [172:30.320 --> 172:38.560] she was with, you come here, yo, yo, let me tell you something. Yo, Tyrese, you showing the niggas she was with? That's your bag, bro. Stop acting like you just some different nigga in the world, you're not.

— [172:38.560 --> 172:46.590] You sound like everybody else, nigga. You just talking. No, that's a fact. You just talking. I hear you whisper. You, now you about to start lying. I take that back. Now

— [172:46.590 --> 172:54.760] you about to start lying. I just took it back, bitch. Yo, dog, you about to start lying. I just took it back twice. No, I whisper about women. You've never heard me whisper about women I ain't

— [172:54.760 --> 173:02.840] got nothing to hide my nigga fuckers. You talk about women all the time I wish for what you've never heard

— [173:04.740 --> 173:12.920] What he does that No, I'm here whisper about me. Thank you. Thank you fine. You want to get a talking to myself I just said I wish for about 1 minute. What you mean I never heard of it? Where was I? Every nigga up here wishes for about 1 minute. Where was I? I hate when he does that. Where was I? Yo, all right. Where was I? Nigga, nobody up here wishes for about 1 minute. Thank you. Just me. Thank you, finally. I'll be talking to

— [173:12.920 --> 173:21.860] myself. Yo, it's where you chain at. In the closet. Oh! The fuck

— [173:21.860 --> 173:30.040] is this? Damn fuck that, stop playing with me Nothing from something, leave nothing Nothing from nothing,

— [173:30.180 --> 173:38.900] leave nothing You too, yo You gotta have something You too, yo If you wanna be with me You too, nigga You

— [173:39.540 --> 173:48.400] too, yo. You better off, nigga. You can't fuck with me. You too, nigga. No better. No

— [173:48.400 --> 173:56.400] better. You said what? You can't fuck with me. Fuck with you in what way? Whatever way you trying to do right now. I'm not trying to fuck with you. See that's what

— [173:56.400 --> 174:04.680] I'm saying. You gotta go there. I don't kind of brag how I can fuck with you. I'm not talking about that. I'm just saying whatever you about to do, I'm gonna kill you. Whatever you do. Why you gonna kill Flip?

— [174:04.900 --> 174:12.900] Sometimes niggas gotta die. This nigga what? Shit, goddamn. Nigga, they call me Drago, nigga. I'm here, nigga. If I die, I die. You said it all. Fuck you talking about. I'm

— [174:12.900 --> 174:21.900] on defense. Don't do this in front of trouble, y'all. Like, for real, we on that. They don't want no smoke with me, y'all. I'm

— [174:21.900 --> 174:30.040] on that. Sick of them, I owe these niggas, y'all. Like, you had a lot of, you know what I'm saying? I'm good. I love my niggas. I love y'all

— [174:30.040 --> 174:38.400] niggas. I'll text the niggas. Breaking news, breaking news, breaking news, breaking news. Not that it's too breaking news, but Stephon Diggs found innocent

— [174:38.560 --> 174:46.620] on all charges. Yeah, he's a shocker. Take that Mark. Mark B. I'm so sick of Mark. Now shout out to Mark.

— [174:47.400 --> 174:55.420] We can't, I know that Mark is my man, but we can't have him around when we think bitches are lying. That's all it is. He think they're lying. Cause he'd be

— [174:55.420 --> 175:04.340] right in what they do. No, no, he think they're lying too. No, I don't believe that. No, I think, I think, I'm with you. For real. And this is not like from no conversation. I

— [175:04.340 --> 175:12.620] think he thinks it but. He built the brand. Yeah, yeah. It's against his brand. It's a brand name. If what y'all saying is true. I ain't endorsing, I stand behind you. And I don't know that to be true,

— [175:15.060 --> 175:24.000] But if what y'all saying is true, that nigga's the best in the business. No, I think that's what makes him amazing. He's amazing for everything. Because he said that shit with conviction. Every

— [175:24.000 --> 175:32.080] chick. And says it to everybody. Like, you know when you really good at the lies, when you don't tell nobody about the lies. I said to 1 of the puns, I'm like, yo Mark, you

— [175:32.080 --> 175:40.080] right, but we talking about when we think they lying. He said that shit didn't work. He don't care about that shit. Because the second you

— [175:40.080 --> 175:48.140] start doing that, you victim blaming and you all of that, and he's on the side of the brain. Yeah, it's bad for the brain. But the jury's

— [175:48.400 --> 175:56.400] like Post and Paco. Nigga, the judge told her, I was gonna play the clip but I didn't wanna harp on it with Mark. The judge was like, yo

— [175:56.400 --> 176:04.460] dog. It's a yes or no. Answer the question without the narratives. You're gonna go to jail. I'm sick of you now. The judge said it. That's when I

— [176:04.460 --> 176:12.700] knew. Anyway, congratulations, Stefan Diggs. Found not guilty. So that's great if you're not guilty. Yeah,

— [176:12.700 --> 176:20.880] that was another 1. As soon as it first dropped, it was like, oh shit. This looks a little shaky for him. But then as details come out, Men was like, ugh. She shat.

— [176:20.880 --> 176:29.180] But you can't say nothing. Yeah, that nigga hot dog with mustard on it. That's what she said? Shorty said 1 of the meals that she made for the dick was like a

— [176:29.240 --> 176:37.460] like a Auntie Annie's pretzel hot dog thingy with mustard on it. For 2 grand a week. For 2? 1000 a week. 2. 2 grand

— [176:37.460 --> 176:45.640] a week. No, nigga, 2 grand. 2 grand, bro, 2 grand. 2 different weeks, she was old. So the

— [176:45.640 --> 176:53.800] chef made you a hot dog. Maybe that's what he requested from the chef. Yeah. Yeah, he like hot dog and maybe it was a gourmet hot She got hot dogs No,

— [176:53.800 --> 177:02.000] the real food the food Yeah, I'm not trying to fuck that's a baby daddy that's be forgetting that part right

— [177:02.000 --> 177:10.440] that's a baby daddy I keep forgetting that's not a little summer flame. They got kids together. So I want to kid be respectful Kid or kids kid

— [177:10.440 --> 177:18.500] kid kid. Yeah, I lose I will say Damn me saying it is I fuck it you're gonna get

— [177:18.500 --> 177:26.780] in trouble Can you say oh look the more the more The more examples of things like this, no matter whether

— [177:27.180 --> 177:35.240] niggas is winning the cases or found guilty, whatever, It is speaking to niggas really gotta have better discernment.

— [177:38.300 --> 177:46.320] Like I get it, especially if you may have not lived that life early on, so you try to compensate for it, lay it down the line, you get money,

— [177:46.320 --> 177:54.360] you get access, but... He's been rich and famous for a long time. No, and now... But that doesn't mean that you... They've been them a long time. Him and the barber, they've been them a long

— [177:54.360 --> 178:02.380] time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they from Maryland. Yeah, you got to have discernment or at least not be that caught up in... Because I

— [178:02.380 --> 178:10.740] don't even think he caught up in the pussy shit. Niggas that are like that, fucking like that, like that, it's not about sex. It's

— [178:10.860 --> 178:19.240] not. If you talk to- What's it about? Let's get into the psyche. I'm telling you from- I'm being serious. I'm telling you from me feeling like

— [178:19.240 --> 178:27.380] that way at a certain point. I wanted to continuously fuck and fuck and fuck. It was never about actually having sex. It was something deeper, something deeper rooted. He

— [178:27.380 --> 178:35.640] should definitely go seek help in and try to figure it out. I know what mine is, yeah. Don't throw him out of your ass. Bitch, don't throw him in the hoops. Yeah, I did.

— [178:35.660 --> 178:44.000] Right there in the room. All right, I'm just saying, all right. I know you was a botanist. Yeah, any nigga that's moving like that and just taking that many risks,

— [178:44.160 --> 178:52.160] mad different chicks in the crib. You a W man? Yeah. Sometimes. You said what? You a W man? Yo, y'all niggas. You a W man? I

— [178:52.160 --> 179:08.800] see you, my brother. Hey, 1 thing Joko always sees is you. 1 thing I'm always seeing is my man. Always seeing is you. My boy be a W man. Yo, I need you to I'm too hot, man.

— [179:08.800 --> 179:20.900] I ain't fucking with you. Are you hot now? Yeah, you smoke Well, that's why you Got

— [179:20.900 --> 179:29.120] home muscle shit, right? You smoke for your glaucoma We out of here, I'm not playing my man. You're the homestay homie? No. You got your glaucoma and some shit, right? You're supposed to forget glaucoma. Good? Cataracts, you got it. Oh boy, I'm gonna like you. Good! I'm good,

— [179:29.120 --> 179:37.200] I don't want to. Homie. You my man, I don't want no problems. All right, you're fat. All right, problem. Before we get out of here, does somebody want to attempt to tell me what's going on

— [179:37.200 --> 179:45.340] between Carlos Miller and and the cannon? I don't know. No, it's not Carlos Miller and Nick Cannon. I think it's Carlos Miller Miller and

— [179:45.340 --> 179:53.460] MTV people Nick Cannon basically said that after Wild N Out, he tried to put the 85 South niggas on

— [179:53.460 --> 180:01.580] MTV. And he told MTV, like, yo, they the hottest thing moving, y'all about to drop the ball. And I rock with them. He also said that he

— [180:01.580 --> 180:09.860] went to them and said, I'm going to try to link you all with MTV. MTV dropped the ball, right? And then I think the people from MTV, if I'm not mistaken,

— [180:10.600 --> 180:18.740] like they started having some words with Carlos, because Carlos said some shit about people owning your rights and owning your this and owning your shit and

— [180:18.740 --> 180:26.760] you'll be writing on different shows and shit, not getting the credits and all that stuff. So I think that him and the MTV people have a beef, not

— [180:26.760 --> 180:35.060] necessarily him and Nick. It was, Nick was on, Nick was on. Shaysay. Shaysay. And, cause the first thing I saw was the clip

— [180:35.060 --> 180:43.160] where Nick says, I've never fired anybody from Wild N Out. We have like, it's basically an open door. Like if you leave, at some point you can

— [180:43.160 --> 180:51.220] come back, et cetera, et cetera. I saw Carlos respond to that and say, yeah, you don't follow, you don't fire people, but you send

— [180:51.220 --> 180:59.240] your people to do it so you can act like you don't know what's going on. Oh. Which says there is something with him. That's true. And then began

— [180:59.240 --> 181:07.380] to break down, You know, the MTV stuff. It was on Twitter, right? Yeah, this was on Twitter. Oh, Twitter. He was going just, giving his side of it.

— [181:07.380 --> 181:17.260] He was like, I didn't want to speak on this, but y'all not going to paint it like I was a problem or nothing, like, yo, dogs, y'all wasn't clear with it. So

— [181:17.260 --> 181:25.420] that's all we know for right now. Yeah, I mean, I'll see if you put anything else up here because this was happening kind of like in real time a little bit. Got it. All right, yeah, so we can

— [181:25.420 --> 181:33.620] wait. Yeah, that's peace. Yeah, we can wait and go see what's going on with that. Here it is, Carlos Miller finds back in the cannon

— [181:33.620 --> 181:41.660] claims he has an open door policy. Yeah, yeah, I'll go get more research on this before I come in and give a take. Then we did a good job. I don't really have

— [181:41.660 --> 181:49.730] nothing else. Great day, man. Shout out to Punch. Shout out to Punch. Yeah, Punch was great. Shout out to you, bro. Shout out to punch. Shout out to punch. Yeah, punch was great. Shout out to you, bro. Shout

— [181:49.730 --> 181:58.260] out to punch. Shout out to trouble. Always. Yeah, guys, that's my new name, Trouble. Did you lose the bet with Imani? No,

— [181:58.260 --> 182:06.420] I didn't. Well, technically, kind of, yeah. I thought you were coming up here in sweatpants or something. Those are sweatpants? I was. No, those are not sweatpants.

— [182:06.420 --> 182:16.140] No, these are not because Imani says you And what was the better game? Well

— [182:16.340 --> 182:24.340] that you know, I Couldn't wear it's like loose or baggy clothes, because I'm always wearing tight clothes. Pull up, pull up

— [182:24.340 --> 182:33.040] my clothes. Yeah, so I'm always wearing tight clothes and that I couldn't pull off a look of, you know, sweats and still make it look

— [182:33.040 --> 182:41.140] nice and sexy. She lost. You don't think she could do that? I didn't say she can't. I think

— [182:41.140 --> 182:49.240] she won't. She won't make the effort to do it. I have it at home. When you drop that on her. Huh? When you talk to her about that I was like, what are you doing?

— [182:49.240 --> 182:57.440] I came straight here. On Oz or E? On that episode? Nah, I think it was here. It was behind the scenes. Behind the scenes. Oh, and the rewind. Mmmmmm. Makin'

— [182:57.440 --> 183:05.780] you trouble. No, listen, I have it. I have it. It's just that I think it's

— [183:06.100 --> 183:14.380] double. Honey, baby, what up? Yeah. Ooh. I think you can do a sash. I guess I lost right now, but when I come back,

— [183:14.380 --> 183:22.460] y'all see it. I think you can do a sash, we believe in you. But I gotta do it quick, because summertime is coming. What that mean? That I'm not gonna

— [183:22.460 --> 183:30.580] be wearing that shit. You still don't, you don't gotta be tight in the summer. Who said I gotta be tight in the summer? But I could show some

— [183:30.580 --> 183:38.660] legs, right? But you, I thought you said you, y'all bet was that you don't gotta wear nothing tight. Yeah I know I would have worn that today

— [183:38.660 --> 183:46.940] but I was outside so I came straight here. Nice nice. But I do have it at home. I do have it. Alright we can't wait to see. Okay.

— [183:47.720 --> 183:55.733] Right, E? E, right? Yeah, it was a great day, y'all. No, we can't wait to see, right? That's a great day. Be a major This is

— [183:55.733 --> 184:03.860] my shit, though. This is my shit, though. This is my shit, though. Yeah, hold on. And it's the remix, too. The remix

— [184:03.860 --> 184:19.640] was like, this record was hard. This record was hard. Yeah, this is a jay-cold t-pain Hey Wale Trey song This

— [184:19.640 --> 184:30.040] record has some burn in New York. A little bit. Anyway, I think all hearts and minds are clear. Hey,

— [184:30.040 --> 184:40.760] If you're in the night life and you're dating a da dun dun n***a and you madly in love with him and you're not gonna leave him Hide him Ayyyy Wait

— [184:40.760 --> 184:48.900] a minute Wait a minute Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast we had a blast go Nick go Nick go

— [184:48.900 --> 184:56.920] Nick not to be confused with Bowling all right we done we done

— [184:56.920 --> 185:05.040] right anybody got anything to say? Trouble you got anything to say? We good we good we good? Next time y'all see me y'all see me with the sweats. Nixon

— [185:05.040 --> 185:13.120] Foff. Cypher. Who you should do your next rewind with? Let me see. Make it free, it's

— [185:13.300 --> 185:21.320] free. Damn, let me see you. Who you think? Who you think Trouble should do our next rewind with? You. So I don't include you in

— [185:21.320 --> 185:29.340] the jokes. I'm just saying. That's why I don't joke with you. Fuck out of here. Thank you Y'all hold it down man

— [185:29.340 --> 185:49.741] same time same place at some point man and that's that oh

— [185:49.741 --> 185:51.960] my god I love your hair, dad. Huh? Fuck, fuck, fuck. Oh my god, you're in so much trouble, yo.

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