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0:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it 0:08 is not serious. It is not real. No 1 is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you 0:16 anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best 0:24 interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Good days. But not with you. They Mute up then, nigga, when we talk about niggas around the 0:32 joints. I just did. You shouldn't have nothing to say no more. Yeah. We talking about niggas that be with joints, nigga. 0:42 Not niggas with yesterday's knowledge of what the joints was like in 99 or whatever you had them. Nigga, mute up. We talking about today's 0:50 action. You out the game, boy. I guess that's why you always talk from a nightlife standpoint. You out the game, boy. You out the game, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ain't 0:58 that the goal? Yeah, what's up? I'm out the game. Far removed. Far. Very far removed. Indeed. Act like that. Talk like that then don't talk heavy I do anyway back 1:06 to eat somebody moving around Somebody in his bag out here Do the dick contest 1:14 when they come you don't Anyway. Hey, y'all. What's up, y'all? Which 1 is it? What's up, y'all? We moved on. 1:23 I love how y'all ain't waking me up. Oh, you sleep? Yeah. Oh, you now? That nigga be sleep when ain't no woman getting abused. It 1:31 seems like a good time to go to sleep. It's a nice time to go to sleep. Why would you say that? That nigga getting the bedz. Mark, 1:40 you haven't addressed that sleep schedule. I just haven't been sleeping much lately. Any reason why you're just... Life 1:48 shit. I called the nigga to check up on him. I appreciated it, man. Nigga hung up quick. Yo, you good? He said, yeah, I'm good, bro. I said, no, you not. Nigga said, I gotta go. I'm in my room to sleep. They 1:57 called me back. I was trying to get that nigga to sleep. I heard him in the background. Why they doing what you want to do? What happened? Because You so into yourself, you can't tell when somebody going through something. How 2:05 I get attached? Because you into yourself too much. How I just get attached? That's crazy. You can't tell when your fucking co-host or your golden goose is going through something. They can check up on 2:13 your niggas. Okay, but can you still answer my question? How did you know? I can feel it, I can see it. It's energy is different. You too, you felt 2:21 it too? No. I did. I felt it. When y'all talking about last time I seen him? Last time? Yes, you just, you good, you all right, you can just tell. 2:29 And then I caught him outside, talking to himself 1 time. Ice check, park check. And he walked to himself, he's talking to himself, you all right? Really? He didn't even know 2:37 I was there, parked up. You know Flip pay attention to everybody. Flip pay attention to everything. He's going to see it. Flip is always checking in, man, I really appreciate that, man. Because I can tell 2:46 when you go, I don't know where it be coming from, and I don't want to... Here's what I don't want to do. I don't want to... You going through something and really shoot in a direction when you really 2:54 going through something. I don't want to... That's why I want to know. No, no, we shoot... Don't change nothing. Nigga, he crack the joke about Malcolm and call Malcolm Muhammad. 3:02 You ain't like that. I went and rewind it too, nigga. I didn't care. You ain't like it. Fuck that, nigga. Fuck him. You ain't like it. He called your 3:10 son Muhammad, nigga. He said whatever the fuck his name is. That's what he said. You ain't like that. I ain't like it neither, nigga. I didn't care. I ain't like it neither, nigga. I'm putting it together. I ain't like 3:18 it neither. I'm just rolling for it. What are we talking about? What's wrong with that, man? It's my homie. He's talking about my son, Aaron, nigga. He said my son get pulled over the airport, and 3:26 get fucked up. I'm talking about niggas kids. We can't talk about his. I'm not that geographically educated to even have made 3:35 whatever joke you say. You remember calling Niko? You did call him a hunk. I remember this because somebody on Twitter said it. You did say it. You think I would have said that about? No, 3:43 he said, about who? He said about my son. About who? About who? Finish it. Finish it. See? Hey, now all of them now. 3:52 Now all of them. See, look, look at that. His beard is hiding some things. Oh shit. But I forget, I'm 4:00 sitting here wondering why you trying to set me and Mark like a beef up, but then I remembered. What, I'm not trying to set it up again. I 4:09 remembered. Y'all rewind or something? You tight. By what? You mad. By what? That's why you, and that's why 4:17 you said I'm into myself. Like you starting from the hip, like with me, and it's cause you mad about something. Put me on. What happened this morning? You 4:25 mean a phone call with you and I? Yeah, are you over there? Are you healed from that? Oh, now you trying to heal, damn, man. Are you healed from that? You tried to call 4:33 me. No, I did call you. No, you called me and asked me if I was oh you're gonna tell your brothers No, I can't say it cuz Yeah, I can't 4:41 say why not Well, we always shit back deep down wait Tuck yourself in he called don't touch 4:50 me. Let's find some topics, y'all. He called me and said- Listen, we can't talk about this. All right, watch it. Let's find some topics, y'all. Yeah. He can't talk about this. I don't like 4:58 how you back down like that. He called me and said, didn't I tell you to come to Patreon last week. I said, at first I was saying no, but then I said yes, 5:07 and then I said no again. I'll leave it at that. That's what happened. So you was wrong. No, I was completely right, but He was 5:15 trying to grill me while I was in a certain environment and he's trying to grill me on the phone. Oh, all right, I see what you're saying. Yeah, exactly. You 5:23 know what I was doing. He backed you down at an opportune time. Tuck himself in. He wouldn't have bed. He 5:31 wouldn't have sleep. He caught up on all the rest of the moves. Nice little Jay Hollerman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Saving his vocal cords. No polyps bothering him. 5:40 Like, he rested his vocal cords. I got you, this is the topic. Yeah, let's find some. Let's find some. Yours show up. Yours show up 5:49 randomly, nigga. My mouth sometimes turn to diarrhea, nigga. What did I eat today? I ate Chinese food, I ate curry. Yours show up. I don't eat that dog, the 5:57 shorty food no more. No, I'm not talking about that. No, no, I'm talking about yours show up and meaning that The way I talk. I don't order that food no more. Pay attention to what I'm saying. I'm not talking about nothing but food. I'm saying my mouth is 6:05 diarrhea. So yours is liable to be hearing person that anytime I can have the bubble guts and I can just start spitting and shitting shit out my mouth. But what could you say? Let's 6:13 be my lot. But what could you say? Turn the episode up. I can say a lot. Turn the episode up. I heard a little bit of a verb with a clash of words. Nigga, you even got the nerve. I know. We battle rapping. Yeah, 6:21 yeah, yeah. What can we say? Don't try to I can say a lot. But what could we say? I can say a lot, and I'm not gonna But like what? I'm not gonna expose my hand. I'm tired of that. I'm tired of that. 6:30 What are you tired of? I'm tired of that. He tried to do that in front of me. This nigga got the big joker. Just throw it on the table, right? Yo, at some point if you got a blade. You know how many times you could do that? These niggas like 6:38 to just run around and pump fake. Yeah, I do. I'm not pump faking. I'm talking about a talk I had this morning with you. Tuck 6:46 yourself in. Oh, dang. Big blanket too, right? I spoke to you this morning about something that we can discuss yo 6:58 that was funny Are you hyping this nigga too? I'm hyping both of y'all, that shit funny. So hype me nigga. I did, but you ain't saying much. I wanna, yeah. 7:06 I want you to get back to it. Well here you go after. Hey yo, listen, look at me. Don't say that. Look at me. Hey yo, look at me. The last time I said something and I played 7:15 around, you know what happened. So before I make any mistakes, I'm not doing that. I'm not falling to this trap That's his new thing to try to get me to say something I'm 7:24 trying to say that though. I know I got nothing to say you play around you talk yours That night I said I don't want 7:32 to hear no more. Why I keep hearing that? Wait. I mean. The 7:40 fuck is going on? I am a real man. I'm trying to get to Trevor Noah the bear. Like come on man. I'm happy to see you. I'm happy to be 7:48 I'm happy that you're here I'm glad that we spoke this morning. We did gain understanding There was no understanding clarity Well, 7:58 I didn't say you I said we I got We I can't see shit Ray 8:07 Charles Yeah, what up All right, so who got an honorary degree? Why do we care? Yeah, 8:15 Mark got 1. Mark. That's the new, that's the new. That's true. That's the new move. That's the new shade. What's the shame in having all the way to do? Wait, is that a joke or not? I don't 8:23 know, they joke. Mark went to school and got his shit. Let's not focus on me. You don't have a- Wait, you got an honorary? Let's decenter Mark. The reason why 8:31 I was- Mark, you better be a doctor. The 8:39 reason why I brought it up... Wait, mom, what's wrong? He's still brilliant. So I mean, it don't mean he's still smart enough. If he's got no doctorate, I don't know. If 8:47 I don't, then you should really feel good. You a doctor to me. Hold on. You a doctor to me, yo. You always be a doctor to me. James Baldwin didn't have 8:56 a degree. They cook at people. Who cares, right? James Baldwin didn't have a degree. No, he didn't go to college. Razor shark. Razor 9:05 shark. Who cares? White mask construct. Exactly. These niggas favorite construct. No, the reason every year, 9:13 this is honorary degree season. This is when celebrities get invited to schools and they give them these degrees. And I have no problem with people getting 9:22 honorary degrees. I did, brother, Jalen Rose just got 1 and I saw him having an argument with people on the internet about it because people were saying he didn't earn a degree and he's like, I did. And 9:31 lots of celebrities do this. I saw Kelly Price do it a couple years ago. That 1 made me uncomfortable. Why? Why? Because she was really bragging about it, 9:39 about her doctorate, but she was saying doctorin. Oh. 0, shit. That's crazy. And it made me just, it literally made me uncomfortable. Like I was, It 9:47 was like friendship shaman, you know what I mean? It was like watching, yeah, I was embarrassed on her behalf. Go ahead. No, 9:55 no, no, I'm not clowning. I'm just saying like. I got discreet named after me. Right? I got discreet. Discreet. I was like, yo, 10:03 y'all gotta do better with these. So if you get an honorary degree, this is my advice, no extra charge for this. If you get an honorary 10:11 degree, say thank you, accept it as an honor, and realize that you may have done more for the world than the person who earned the degree. I'm not taking nothing away 10:20 from honorary degrees. It takes a lot to get 1 sometimes, although there are factories. Sometimes there's factories. Wait a minute. No, I mean, there's 10:28 a Christian school that gives honorary doctors to a lot of people, and these people want it, so they'll even pay for it, or they do it to get people to come to things. Like if I said right 10:36 now, Imani come speak at my school for free, you'd say no, but if I say we wouldn't give you honorary doctorate. No, he wouldn't. That nigga 10:44 would be right there. Go to your college campus. Cause I'm a good guy. Cause I'm a good guy. Cause I'm a good guy. That's why. 10:52 Cause I'm a good guy. Hey Imani, come to my college campus. Imani come anywhere. He coming. That thing don't give a fuck. How did you get to tell you to get some? 11:00 SPS? Nah, but I tell you. Go ahead. What you say, Mark? My point was, people will do that for it. For it, for it, for it. For 11:08 it, for it, for it. You're damn right. I just don't like when the people start getting hardy with it. It's like celebrity, like don't start, if I say, hey Mr. Smith, and say, you know it's Dr. Smith, like 11:16 fuck off. Like, relax. No, nigga, it's Dr. Smith. What the fuck is you thinking about? And I hate that shit, that's the shit I hate. Honest to God, that is the shit I hate. You didn't earn that. 11:24 You didn't earn it. Yes the fuck I did. No you really didn't. Whatever I did that got me to the position where they were willing to exchange a degree for me showing up, it's earning it. 11:32 You being hypocritical. Sorry, I agree. Fuck is y'all talking about? Whatever I did, I could sell 1000000 records and because I'm a super popping artist, 11:41 y'all brought me to y'all school and gave me the degree and guess what, I still earned the right here. Let me be clear what I mean by earn. Just to be clear, 11:49 because I think you deserve it. Earn literally means that you got the credits and went to school. An earned degree is a degree that you went to school for. Indeed. So 11:57 that's all I mean by earn. I don't mean you don't deserve it. I mean earn in the literal academic sense of it. There's an honorary degree and there's an earned degree. They're just different categories. That nigga's crazy. And so, 12:05 because it's just so we can make the distinction. I get it, I get it. So, I'm not saying you didn't work hard for it. Like I said, you may deserve it more than a person who- Do I have 12:13 it? Yeah, but you devaluing what it really means to have that. You can earn all day. Hell, dog. Do I have it? Is it in my possession? Not true, we frightened up here. Was it given 12:21 to me? What's the? I see the shit right there on the wall, I got it. We devalued. I just want to pose a question to the room. Go ahead. A lot of those niggas that got honorary doctorates 12:29 and degrees, they paid for them. That's true. I donated money to build the gym, I donated money to build the performing arts building, whatever the case may be. That's a 12:37 little more than paid for though. What do you mean? Paid for says Somebody with money 12:45 can go pay for it. You can That's the point if I open up you saying Anybody has the chance to donate to 12:53 the gym have the gym medical search renamed to them Oh, I don't know that to be true. You're like Joe Joe when you go and get let's just say you've 13:01 never won a Grammy, right? It just took Carmelo's name off a building and he paid for some shit. Or they added somebody else's name that had some money. So let 13:10 me pull... But he was somebody though. He wasn't just Joe Schmo. But let me pose this question. You know, the somebody is dictated by how much money you got in the real world. So you could be somebody with 100000000 13:18 dollars and be a piece of shit nigga. All right, so you're agreeing with me. It sounds like if it's a nobody nigga with the money to do it, he doesn't get the 13:26 opportunity to do it. No, that's not true. Because it could, Let me ask you a question. No, I want to ask you a question. I would love to. Yeah, E. Yeah, yeah. Go 13:35 ahead, go ahead. For clarification, what does a nobody with money mean? Somebody who's not known. You mean like non-famous. Okay. 13:43 Not famous. I just got some bread, that's it. Yeah, I just got a bread. It's a lot of people outside that have worked wonders behind the scenes in medicine I mean I'm in business in 13:51 media and whatever the case may be They may not be known to the average person half of these names on these buildings. We don't know them They just were 13:59 a rich rich rich motherfucker that gave some money to this particular institution they could have made their money in crypto and nobody knows them and when I come donate 14:08 40 million dollars to build this new building that building is named the Marby blah blah blah Center nobody knows me I didn't have to make 14:16 my money in a profession that even, can we, no. Can we stay on our own? Can we stay on a topic of the degree? I'm about 14:24 to. I was correlating it to, we don't devalue a nigga when he pay for pussy, instead of earning the pussy. I don't want to, Y'all taking it to a whole other stream. We do. 14:33 We do. And we do sometimes. And we do, yeah. Yeah. If you are artists, right? I know. If you are artists and you've never won a Grammy for real through 14:41 the natural process, right? But then the Grammy Awards give you an honorary award, do you still get the opportunity to walk around and say you're a 14:49 Grammy Award winner? Yeah, that's interesting. Yes, hell yeah. Okay, 1, 000%. Okay, I'm saying in this situation, when 14:57 you go ahead and you have something as prestigious as being a doctor or earning, you're actually earning that degree, I don't think 15:05 it's equivalent to you being given something and you being able to walk around with that same title. Like you start to devalue that actual title that comes with earning 15:13 that degree. Like If you're a journalist, if you go through the process of earning a degree to become a journalist, and then you now get a school that gives you an honorary 15:21 degree in journalism, I think it's an insult to real journalists to work around and say, I'm a journalist too. It's the same shit. No, I think it's different. 1, 15:30 I think that you wouldn't get an honorary doctorate in journalism unless you did something outstanding in the field in which to get that doctorate. I could be wrong. I think 15:38 with the Grammy thing, just real quick, it's slightly different because usually that means they fucked up somewhere. We were supposed to give you this and you never got 1 Grammy. You 15:47 should be here. But you weren't saying that you have an honorary Grammy. No, you're saying you're a Grammy Award winner. And then, but what would 15:56 that be based off of? That's my point. Usually people win Grammy based off of this. You want a Grammy based off of this. In this category, this is a game. That's what I was gonna ask Mark. What would the honorary 16:05 doctorate degree, if I paid a shit ton of money and got the recreational center named after me or whatever, what is the degree in? So typically 16:13 honorary doctorate, something called humane letters, it's a very kind of broad category. Like you don't get it in journalism, literature, et cetera. Like you get 16:21 it in, like when Terrence Howard got 1, he tried to say he got a degree in chemistry. It was actually an honorary doctorate. You hate 16:29 Terrence Groff. I mean, Terrence Howard. I love Terrence Howard. I love Terrence Howard. What was it in? He'd be shooting the shit out of Terrence Howard. Have I shot a Terrence Howard movie? No, I don't. I like Terrence Howard a lot, actually. But 16:38 he was saying, but he got it in humane letters. Right. And they do that so that you can't. So it doesn't look you got a doctorate in your in this field that you 16:46 might be involved in. So humane letters is kind of an overarching kind of thing. That's usually what most universities are given in. So yeah. So 16:54 there'll be the distinction right there. So that person can still say they got the doctorate, but once you see it's in humane lettering, It's like, all right, we know what that is. But people don't say all that. They just say, hey, I'm Dr. 17:02 Michael Smith. People don't say that. And that's not true, because now I'm reading it, it says that it's pretty much 4 categories that they get them in. So there you go. They get them in doctors of laws, 17:10 doctor of humane letters, doctors of letters, and doctors of science. So if a nigga's walking around saying, I got my doctorate in science, most people won't 17:18 know that it's honoraries. It's my bid. Science and technology. But most celebrities get it in humane letters. You can get a DBA in 17:27 business administration. Those are real doctors. So my question to you guys is, do you guys feel like anybody who has an honorary 17:36 doctorate degree, do you guys feel like anybody who has an honorary doctorate degree should not speak on the subject or speak on certain subjects 17:44 or call themselves a doctor? Just don't call yourself a doctor. On social media or anywhere? Shhh, you crazy son. I think you should make it very, I think when you 17:52 speak about that and if you're very vocal and people are listening to you thinking that you are expertise in something, you should make it clear that you have a honorary degree. 18:00 I think it would just depend on what the, say you're doing a podcast about therapy for instance, 18:08 mm-hmm Maybe you shouldn't walk around saying that you're a doctor because then people think that you are a licensed doctor It's what a therapist so 18:16 you shouldn't speak But if you're on a podcast talking shit, like about basketball, then I think you could say Dr. Mark Lillil. See, I think the license 18:25 part that you added changes. Okay, my bad. But outside of the licensee part, you can say, yo, it's like somebody having a JD, right? 18:33 You don't have to be an acting lawyer, and I've really earned my JD. Right, because I'm just not a licensed lawyer in California or whatever the case may be. 18:41 That don't mean I don't have a legitimate degree. Because you have expertise. My bad about the license. Yeah, Yeah, I agree with you. I didn't mean to throw that in there. Is this inspired off 18:49 of the Cheyenne Bryant? No, it wasn't about Cheyenne Bryant at all. It's not, because Cheyenne Bryant doesn't have an honorary, I mean, she has an honorary doctor, but she also 18:57 has a doctor of psychology from Argosy University. I'm not talking about her at all. I wasn't either, bro. Yeah, what inspired me again was this is the season. 19:05 I saw Jalen change his title to Dr. Jalen Rose, which I ain't got no problem with. Again, that's cool, that's fun. He's not pretending to be a doctor, you know what 19:14 I mean? But I watch people get really hearty about it. I mean, I've watched my, I mean, God bless the dead. Like Maya Angelou would get mad if you didn't call her Dr. Maya Angelou. I 19:22 would too. No a lot of people get mad. She ain't go to school. A lot of niggas will correct you. Don't bring Maya Angelou like that. I'm lost. I'm lost. I'm lost. You 19:30 got Maya Angelou be? Leave Maya Angelou alone yo. I don't have Maya Angelou beef. I don't have Maya Angelou beef. Don't rest, bro. Brother Maya Angelou can't put your dog 19:38 in front. That's Maya Angelou, Mark. Come on. Doctor Maya Angelou. Change foods. Let her in. I mean, from the beast, you hating on Doctor Maya. You did. 19:47 I'm not hating. He over there quoting Eartha Kitt. What the hell, shit? He said a Maya Angelou quote. You're not even 19:55 my age. Marcus. You ain't hating on Dr. York? Oh, you ain't hating on that Dr. York. That's true. I did. Part of why they got mad at me in the car was 20:03 because I pointed out that he didn't really have a doctor. But he didn't have an honorary doctor. He just lied about having doctors. Whoop-psh. Yeah. Whoop-psh. So what's your smoke with Maya Angelou, yo? What'd 20:11 you say? Tell me, mom. I don't have smoke with Maya Angelou. Did you get Maya Angelou? Every day, yo, with this nigga. Him. I love Maya Angelou. And still out of that. When was y'all in college? That is turning into a kiddish thing. I 20:19 have no panties on. Hey, yo, walking your stride. Marcus. Marcus, you call the nigga Marcus. That's 20:30 why you got tight. Marcus, is that you? No. All I'm saying, I just don't like pretense. I don't particularly care for people to use doctor at all, but if you're gonna use it 20:38 and you earned it, fine. That's your choice. All right, let me ask you a question. Can Cheyenne Bryant use it? Yeah, why not? If she's gonna send it, what about somebody being knighted? Again, 20:48 I don't love the titles, but if you've got nighted, then you can use sir, right? Yeah, you got the title sir goes to people who were nighted. My point is 20:57 Doctor goals I don't think that's the same because I don't think I'm just ask people are knighting anymore like they're excited But they're 21:05 not like on a horse fighting Sir 21:19 he's introduced as what though was he introduced as sir sir Paul McCartney. Why aren't the thing? So did the person he had 21:28 that we you Doctor you didn't earn it The Arnett came different ways of you academic 21:36 people. You said that. That's what it is. It's an academic degree. No, it ain't. If my non-academic ass could go get 21:44 1. You can't get an earned 1. You can get an honorary 1. So I would have 1 you would have an honorary 1 Not an earned 1. We say the same thing No, 21:54 no, no, no, I acknowledge the difference we don't play this man's game I'm saying that He would be mad at it. It don't matter what 22:02 it is. He's mad. I think he has a virtue. No, I'm not mad at it. I'm saying that I don't like when people become pretentious about an honorary degree. I think you have 22:10 a right. Well, how do you feel about pretentious people, period? I don't like it. Yeah, so I mean, yeah. It's a pretentious, it's not. So It's not that this thing is making 22:18 her pretentious. No, I think it is. I think it's pretentious for me to make you call me doctor. Do you think that Jalen Rose is being pretentious right now? No. If he says you have to call me 22:27 Dr. Rose. If every time I saw him, he said it's Dr. Jalen. Yeah, I would feel like it was pretentious. If I'm pretentious, if I made y'all call me Dr. Mark, I'm here. Wait, it would be what? Say that again. I think it would be pretentious if I made y'all call me Dr. Mark up here. Wait, it would be what's that again? I think it would 22:35 be pretentious if I made y'all call me Dr. Mark, and I got 1. Dr. Mark is nuts. Or Dr. Hill, whatever the fuck, I'm saying using, if I made y'all in a context like 22:43 this call me Dr. Mark. And he would be allowed to stand on that. I think that shit would be pretentious. I think it's even more pretentious if you didn't even do the shit. See, I don't. If 22:51 Mark wanted to be referred to as Dr. Hill and said that, then that's what it is. I wouldn't think, oh, he's a dickhead. Okay. 23:00 Okay. I would. Now, if Imani came in and said I'm dr. Salgado. Okay, but For 23:09 whatever reason yeah, then you doctor so that'll then I'll be doctor so I got a lighter and second. I know Fall 23:18 back when it just to be funny now. You just sat here and said, and so did you. Look, I said yes. I'm with you. He's totally missing it. I know, fuck you. 23:27 He said, that's the only point of that line. If I go get an honorary from Georgetown, whoever the fuck. Cory. And 23:35 musical accomplishment or something. Whatever the fuck it is. Georgetown don't let me. You better call me fucking Dr. Salgado if I actually call him that nigga. Georgetown don't take Puerto Ricans. Oh 23:44 shit. That's fucked up. That is fucked up. Come on, yo. They do sometimes. You're like 3. Just wanted to get that off. Just wanted to get out of my system, 23:52 yo. It's a lot going on out here, man. Well, Mark, if you ever did want us to refer to you as Dr. Hill for whatever reason, I don't think you would be wrong. I 24:00 don't even ask my students to do it Man get out my face mark you my nigga. I call you doctor. Yeah, I get it No, I'm respect. 24:08 I'm respect comes with a level respecting a title. Yeah, I don't judge people do it mark in certain settings I would have no problem Now what 24:17 now you got to jail you go to court. I don't I Do it ego so if I didn't know mark and me and Mark didn't 24:25 have a rapport, then I don't have a problem doing that. I'm not referring to my friends as sir blah blah blah. Well how much rapport did you have when he got the 24:33 job? None. So that's the point that we're starting at. See, that's why me and you go back and forth, because I knew you when you was JoJo. You 24:41 know what I mean? You don't refer to me, that's the same shit. Nigga, a level of rapport lends to a level of comfortability. So when you first 24:49 met Mark Quain, he first got the job and he wanted to be called Doc. He said, I wanted to be called Doc. If I didn't know him, I would call him Doc. Well, you didn't know him, so we saying it as in when he walked in. Yes. He 24:58 said, yeah, he said, yeah, he said, I'm answering you, yes. Okay. You're saying it's too late now. That was his preference. Yeah, he's saying that's what he's saying. And that's what he's wanting. And I think y'all would look at me different. I think y'all feel different. No, you can't 25:06 come in here next pod and try to get that off. Why though? I'm sitting here with a nigga for 3 hours calling him doctor all day while I'm calling y'all flipping ice and ishing and Joe and, y'all, that shit would be 25:14 weird. No, no, Wait, wait, where'd you get Joe from? If you Dr. Hill, I'm Mr. Biden. I'm in business too. You 25:22 ain't just Joe and Fish and No. Call me father buddy. I'll be part father buddy. Dr. Hill. 25:31 Everybody in here deserves the ability to be called by Mr. Doesn't this go back to the humble conversation? I know you are Bob Ross, right? Yeah, Bob Ross. Bob Ross. 25:41 Nice little street. What he calls out, the Bob Ross the seaman, a facial. Yo, tell him. The Bob, oh my god. You said that, Emani? Yo, 25:49 I'd say that's worse than having to call him Dr. Hill. Yes! What have we always had to refer to him as? The Bob Ross of Facials. Mr. 25:58 Ross of Facials, Imani. I take my title. Mr. Facial. Let's go back to the humble conversation Well, if you're a doctor, you shouldn't be humble. You should 26:06 be fucking doctor. That's not true. I would be It's right there No, 26:20 you I can by how you ask the question you had. Robocop. He couldn't get the question out. Dr. Murphy. What's Robocop really? They didn't say Robocop. Robocop. 26:29 What? Robocop is wild. That's you, nigga. I just want to say that's dope. If anything. The reason that nigga, yo. If you so loyal, you 26:41 don't laugh at none of our good ice jokes. That's not true. Stop being loyal to that nigga. I ain't here to joke I 27:00 found you in the OVO shirt too. Real quick, Mark, 15. I want to say this. I thought that shit was fake. Skinny as a bitch standing right in front of the boat. Hey, listen. That shit 27:08 you did last part, last Patreon. I thought that shit was fake. I'm not calling on you. You should know, boy. Chubb, all of them. What's that niggas name? 40, all them niggas. Bigging you up 27:16 right now. Way to ice man drops. Nah, he's still, he, he, he. I knew you was doing something. You standing in front of a bunch of, you wasn't scared? You wasn't 27:24 scared? You got your nuts hanging. Yo, that nigga's lying, nigga. Parks, you lying. Check, Parks, finally. You should be on the white man side, you know your shit you be on but 27:32 you checked everybody. I like that I'm down with you. No, where was this nigga? He was at NASCAR He 27:40 was at the fair that was f1 no NASCAR no not no I 27:55 don't know why you dumb it down NASCAR, nigga. No, he said that you wasn't. I said you weren't at F1. No, you saying it like F1 is like, oh. I'm saying you wasn't at 28:03 F1. He was at the welfare recipient office no it ain't that I'm saying that you what was it 1 that's all I'm saying It was 28:11 f1 First 28:22 of all we talk about that's no don't ever not claim OVO And 28:30 I don't I didn't know drink in the hour. Did you all drink riders? No, 28:53 I wore a G-Unit shirt. I wore that. Oh, shit. But I'm not ever gonna see it. Did you buy a snow shirt? Never. Informer? Never. 29:01 Oh, shit. Excuse me? Informer. He listen to you. He listen. Nah, that's my nigga. All right. I like snow. We 29:09 just be saying. Snow listen. Snow listen. I like snow. Oh shit. Excuse me? He listen, nigga. Nah, that's my nigga. I like Snow. Snow listen. Snow listen. That's my nigga. Snow is your 29:17 nigga? No, but I was just saying it. Oh, I was about to say. He DM'd me. That's what you talk about, bro. Oh, man. We've all worn, come on, y'all. Stop it, yo. We all wore 29:25 what? We've all worn some shit just for the sake of either a trend or a popular thing. The IWU shit, whatever, at a certain 29:34 point was popular. The G unit shit was popular. Bad Boy was popular. Come on, y'all. Come on, nigga. You wore Sean John before? I 29:42 bought Sean John more recently. Oh, shit. No, but... You might have worn them in more ways than 1. He's out. 29:51 He's out. He's out. Hey, Joe, put that on. Hey, yo, model guy. Hey, yo, 29:59 daddy. Hey, yo, walk. Hey, yo, walk. Put that on, daddy. Hey, yo, there he dancing. There he dancing from the floor. You got like how you rock with those on. What, did he dance in? Yeah. Yeah. 30:09 Yeah. Hey, yo, pull that heel up. Come on, Playboy. They were sitting on the stairs, and he got him inside of there. He had Sean John on him. Holy 30:17 shit. That was a good 1. We all want some shit, y'all. You crazy, baby. It's all good. Oh man, that's funny. Dr. Hill. Yes. Yeah, 30:25 Dr. Hill. This guy's nuts. It's somebody's fear. That shit went so far, Go Home was out. Joe, are you about to get a tattoo? Why you keep fucking with him? Was 30:33 that an OVO shirt? It could have been. I don't even know. Stop. All right. Stop. Yo bro, see I was rolling with 30:41 you too. OVO was out back then? Yes! Yeah. Come on. I don't know. I don't know. You're just gonna talk 30:49 to him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're fucking ass up now. I know who you are. You're gonna put up a Wizard Lee of World War II. Is that show Harry Potter? Wizard of Wavy Wigley? 30:57 It was 15 years ago, though. Hold up. You said you think that picture's from around 2013, 14? Is that what you're writing? Yes, OVO was around. I don't wanna hear that by a shit. And 31:06 you knew. That's all I'm saying. Why? He wanted you to ask. And you knew. I ain't got no fuckin' OVO or Kendrick merch. It's not OVO merch. Yes it 31:14 is. You said you think that people from around 2013 14 somewhere on yes, OVO was around in I don't want to hear that by OVO or Kendrick merch You came in here after the pop out with some merch on and you flew to the pop out Yeah, and then 31:23 paid for tickets to the pop out. That's true. And I have my name on a Drake album. So where are my bias? Parks pulled rank on y'all which 1 which 1 31:31 should I be biased towards he think that that was like the code Yeah, come on. He can't he ain't control that but he's over a no matter All 31:43 you niggas like that Somebody up here is that killed to have your name on the Drake album. Nigga don't ever talk to that nigga like that. Not 31:52 me. But you know the differences? From who? From Steve Paul. He said you. Steve 32:02 Paul nigga. No I have credits on Jadakiss, Rick Ross, Kanye West. Yeah. Tell Parks. 32:11 He ain't the 1 saying shit. I Have credits You About 32:25 don't say it again You niggas don't get me fucked up. I got credits niggas. Wait, can you be serious? I'm coming in. I'll put my dick on the table up here. Talk to them niggas. You niggas can't fuck when it come to talent. Woo. Tell them about it. I'm not trying to fuck with you. Then don't say it again. His name was in Drake album. I said you would kill that. And my name is on other albums as well. Which ones? Incredible niggas. Rick Ross, Jadakiss, Kanye West, wherever else you want to fuck My 32:45 voice is on that shit. My voice is on that shit. My voice is on it. 32:54 My voice is on Voice the 5ix9ine Grammy Award nomination. My voice. My writing. Jesus Walk. 33:03 Wait, what song is that? Is that Jesus Walk? Jesus Walk, 2 words. Joe, 33:12 you laughing? My writing You should be lucky Eminem allowed you to be a part of this shit. Whoa. Nigga, 33:21 that's your Grammy now that you can big up. And I am, thank you. Thank you. You ain't nigga, what the fuck we talking about? Whole Shady Records, Eminem, Race to Bobcat. What are you doing? You about to 33:29 get nasty. I was Super appreciative of the opportunity and thank you. You're absolutely right about that back to this choir voice Let's get back to it. But 33:37 wait, I didn't want to be shooting at you Participation award for being on slaughterhouse. Oh, okay. Right. That's participation. I'm part of a group 33:45 I was a part of a group called the boys choir Harlem. We had recorded for a album So if I'm a part of that group and we get credited I'm a part of 33:53 that group But he that's dumb shooting at you. I know so why are you shooting at me? Cuz you the easiest target in this conversation because you're the only other artists that I could give an 34:02 example to. These niggas ain't did nothing. What you want me to say to them? They ain't got no credits or nothing. I mean, Mark is Mark, but what these niggas did? He did T-Mobile. That's cool. He did T-Mobile. That's 34:10 cool. That's true. That's cool. I 34:18 get a sag after trick every month These 34:40 gay niggas wanna laugh because they like each other, homosexuals. I get a check from sag or af tra. We love homosexuals. I don't gotta hide no problems and laughing at niggas I go through shit. I 34:48 get a check from Sackett I just didn't hear what you said I just got a check from Top Point on nigga on television nigga 3.1 million viewers that watching Watch your fucking mouth 34:56 when you talk to me That Jesus Walk shit you don't get nothing from that nigga Trevor Robinson bitch ass nigga Watch your fucking mouth Jesus 35:04 Walk nigga And I 35:15 I go outside the stand and let my dick drag it. You was on an episode. And it did a lot of shit. You was a highlighter. You was a part of that episode. Like 35:23 I was a part of the group. It's the same concept, nigga. All right, all right, all right. Fuck you talking about it. I get you too, nigga. I get you too, don't touch me. I was a sag ass. 35:31 Don't touch me, nigga. This nigga keep getting shot. Watch your fucking mouth, nigga. Hold on nigga. He said sag a** strobe. Watch your mouth. Hey 35:41 rewind that bro. Pause, rewind and play. Do that rewind. Do the rewind, watch your fucking mouth nigga. For the 35:49 remainder of this episode. What'd that say, yo? I can't see that 1. Turn your brightness up. Why your brightness so low? Security screen on there. 35:57 Yo, nigga, yo, yo. Double security screen on there. Yo, nigga, yo. Don't touch my phone. I'm trying to hide it. I can't see. Don't touch it. No, it ain't up. 36:06 I need it to be up. Let me see. Let me see. And he got the privacy screen. Yo. Wait. Why you need the privacy screen and 36:14 the brand is there? Wearing 2 condoms. God damn. Let me see. Oh shit. This shit works. Oh man. Yo. 36:26 Yo. That wasn't a second. I'm having a good time laughing with y'all. Come on, come on. A lot of y'all are funny. Oh shit. And we all bros in here. This shit is awesome. And we're all 36:34 accomplished and have done dope we are doctors yeah that's a fact but as the only dude here Grammy nominated it with his name by itself mm-hmm 36:43 respect me moving forward for the rest of the episode It's not a yo if you listen close you can hear me It's 36:51 not a yo, I worked with such as such. Yeah Yeah, get the guy you look example. It says demonize 37:00 or diminish what I've done But I got your album that I'm nominated on you hear my voice You want to treat that with the same respect that you treated 37:08 with Parks and everybody else, nigga. I got you on all my albums. Treat me with that sick, so act like it, nigga. I'm your biggest fan, nigga, why you screaming at me? Well then say that. 37:16 I always say it. Say it again, nigga. No, fuck you now. I'm about to kiss. I don't know what to do. Fuck you, nigga. I hate you. How many people in the boys' choir are in Harlem? Say 37:24 it again. How many people are in the, how many people? It depends. Touring, it would be maybe 30 members. What's, what's that? And then recording would be like 15. What kind of slap they did? I ain't checked 37:32 the credit. What's that, what's that? Jesus' name was on. We, nah, they ain't get that Jesus' name. That's not meant to record inside. Do me a favor. Y'all playing with an institution that does way more than most of you niggas 37:50 it's a quiet on 2 words play Come 37:59 on Stop playing with me. That's it. That's it. That's what you was saying. Ooh. Ooh. Let's see if we can hear your voice. I'm going to hear your 38:07 voice. You have a distinct voice. Yeah. Keep fucking with me. You want to do, what? What? Me? That's me, mommy. Oh 38:22 shit. Yo, he's stupid, yo. Ooh. Oh, yeah. Y'all niggas playing fucking right now. I ain't 38:30 gonna play with you. I forgot he even made this. Let's see. Because you buying OVO shirts, nigga. Goddamn, hot. I Even 38:39 made this see cuz you buy Oh, you let's go. That was it, bruh. 38:48 That's what I do. He said he's younger. Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. Yo, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. He killin' that shit, look. You body 38:56 this shit, son. Oh, let's go. Get that shit, That's my dog right there. Go, go, go after the first verse. Go after the first verse. No, we heard you. No, no, go 39:04 after the first verse. We heard you. You killed it. Go after the first verse. You motherfucker. Yo, boss, please go after the first verse. Please, please, please. I want to hear it. I want 39:12 to hear it. Oh, wait. You don't need support. You already got gas. Go after the first verse, though. Please, please, please. Oh, please. It's 39:20 a loop. We know. Let me see. Oh, all right. He joking. I'm going to get an ass in a minute, 39:34 too. 0I0 39:47 You can't tell You 40:00 can't tell the money He 40:14 know he knows I don't put the o's on I'm a money's biggest fan in this room Yo, Please don't get him to shoot at me, because you know he takes 40:22 jokes different and shoots for real and try to really kill you. Please, I'm chilling now. I don't want to smoke. Oh, man. Oh, man. I'm still thinking 40:30 of Freeze, man. I ain't like that. I don't care about this shit. How old should we be when we retire? Oh, 40:39 tag names? Yeah. I don't want to call him ice when we at 50 should that be over yeah I think so like when y'all meet new people y'all say I'm ice and I'm ish 40:48 It depends on who the person is. How about say, it depends on the person. Talk to me. But yeah, for the most part, it's Ice. Who do you say your real names to? People like corporate. And corporate. 40:57 Deloitte. Not white. Deloitte. Somebody's mother. You know what I mean? If I introduce myself to somebody's parent, they older. You still doing that? Yeah. 41:05 You still introducing yourself to somebody? I ain't know that, boy. Who mothers you meeting? That boy don't play. You know, you try to stay in it. When I met Ice's grandparents. All in the family. When I 41:16 met Ice's grandparents, I introduced myself as Antoine. I don't say my name as itch. Oh, got you. So I'm my grandfather. So if I introduced you right now to like 41:24 my uncle, my older uncle, you would walk in and say I'm Ice or you would say? No, I wouldn't say my name. All right. Yeah. Would you? Yes. 41:33 I would. Yeah, 1000%. Both of y'all. I knew you would. I didn't know how much you use your name outside of it. Like I said, if I'm anything professional, I'm 41:41 at the school, anything like that, I'm always introducing myself as my name. I'm not going to say, yo, my name is Ice at fucking school. You can call me Freeze for short. Word. I didn't 41:49 know that, okay. That's interesting, interesting you asked that. I do think that when you get to a certain point, it's over for the nickname shit. Tag name. It's 41:57 over? Shit, I don't think so. What's the point, hold 60. No, listen, I keep- Your real name is the same thing, right? Nah, but it's not. My real name is Imani. So 42:05 now I'm really getting to the point What's the tag name? I'm my tag name my tag name. My artist name is Imani I got so used to introducing myself 42:14 as that to everybody that I have not heard people there's 42:26 a difference between Imani and Imani? There is, but no. Yeah, nigga, there is. I'm going to flip on this 1. I'm 42:34 going to flip. Come on, y'all. There is, but no. There is, but no. The difference for me is when you grow up your whole life, having 42:42 people, no, hold on, hold on. I didn't do that. See? I know what he about to do. Hold on. I know this move, too. I know. We got to let him talk because he's got an honorary. Oh, 42:50 shit. When you grow up your whole life being called E-Manny, and everybody around you calling you E-Manny, and then that stops, 42:58 and you no longer have anyone calling you that, you start to forget that that's. You forgot your name? I just really got to a point where I got used 43:07 to people saying the proper tag more. You got around the Blacks. I was trying to too, boy. I tried to raise my pants too. But if you don't raise your pants, you change 43:15 it completely. You went from E-Mani to E-Man. E-Man and E-Mani. The federal wants to stay here, and you want to just say that. It matters. It matters to me. 43:23 So how did you come up with the name E-Mani? Someone said it. Somebody said it wrong enough. And what happened to E-Major? Somebody said it wrong enough. And 43:31 it just stuck. I didn't want to correct it. What happened to E major? Nigga you know Imani sounded more black and f***ing slap. You got a booger hanging out your nose. I hope they catch 43:39 that. I'm asking you about your name. You know Imani made it sound like he was going to make some questions. Look how dirty he play. Yo that's actually a nice 43:47 thing to do. I was looking out. What happened to E-Major? A booger right there. I hope they see 43:56 you. What's the E-Major thing? That was me just trying to rebrand as a producer when I 44:05 was in LA. Oh, got it. Are you making beats? I produced The Kisses to the Skyship with Ross and Jadakiss. I co-produced it 44:13 and I wrote it. Yeah. Nice. That's fire. And you did that as E major. Yeah. Static major. Wait, you passed away. You 44:21 trying to steal niggas name? E major is a note, so I figured it would be clever. I know what E major is, but chord. It was a chord, yeah, so I figured it would be. Yeah, hey, look, you had it wrong. Look, thank you, Parks. Well, 44:29 you know what I meant. You trying to shit on me? You know what I meant. Yeah, keep shit on me. You going to roll with it, too. I was going to let you live with it. I was like, keep shit on it, Parks. Thank 44:37 you, Parks. He was going to roll with it. But no, for me, it was like, all right, if I don't want to go by my real name or stage name. He asked me, nigga. 44:45 The record was high though. You try to change your name to Rage. Nigga stop. Why you keep playing with it? Why you keep going 44:53 in on shit? You was like, come on. Leave me alone. Do the rage. Do 45:02 the rage. Do the rage. Why rage? Unfortunately Mark, 45:11 Imani is absolutely right. I did try to change my name to Reg. The party's leaving 45:20 out is, I was so lit and so poppin' and had sold so much off my real name, they wouldn't let me. 45:29 Oh. Yeah. But they let you be E-Made. So back to what you was doing. He's lying. Back to what you was doing. And you gonna let him roll with it. I figured you gonna call him out. I'm just... Back to what 45:37 you was doing so he made what's this thing? He don't know my name is okay Look at majority of your albums. 45:45 I'm all Have 45:55 associate producer credit I'm all over. You remember that. You know my name. But, Slips, the associate producer, all that. I got all that. You produce shit on his album too? I have an associate producer credit on No Like To Us and all of us. Oh, he bought the... Oh, That's dope. 46:03 Wait, so that means you got 53 on his shit. If we was going to be back there, nah, he'd be lit. Yo, you 46:12 going to do that? He just threw you on there as a producer as a lookout? What's the weapon in this shit? Yo, put E-Money on it, boy. Yo, I was grabbing 46:20 beats, writing hooks, helping with records I ain't even on. Writing songs for, come on, don't play with me. Eric Belliger joint, the joint where Yummy 46:28 Biggum all... This new account is tricking accomplished people in the room to buy at each other while they stay quiet so you 46:36 set them up for me by this going on what have y'all ever done anything I don't Oh 46:46 shit! Yo, hit them, hit them! Open the gate! Ha ha ha! Ooh! 46:56 You're the class 1! Ah! I got you, I got you. That's Chamber 2. You don't play. How 47:05 come you're all with me? It also got stolen. Fuck out of here. They all trying to claim shit that got stolen. I don't want no problems, bro. 47:13 It's not Now I'm fine, what y'all did again? What y'all did again? Saved your show. Nothing. Oh! Give him some. Oh, so good. Hit 47:21 that 1 again! No, no, no, that's a you. Yeah, Dr. Ice, let's go. Dr. Ice, Dr. Ice. We are now shooting. We bet you it's 45 minutes. Not me. I Asked 47:37 them a regular question. You can't regular questions in this room Regular Joe said what y'all accomplished like 47:45 y'all bum-ass No, he said that's not accomplished people So disrespectful Like, y'all bum ass fakers, we got credits. No, he said the accomplished people are allowing 47:53 the North County executive. It doesn't even work. It's right. It's right. So disrespectful. Then I worded myself wrong. It's all right, bro. Please fix yourself. Tell the audience 48:02 what you did, what you guys have accomplished. Nothing. Not a damn thing, nothing at all. You accomplished a lot. I made it to 43 without being in jail. 48:10 I'm a dad. Shout out to you. And a positive dad. I'm a dad. That's an accomplishment in this song. It is, both major. It's true. Not E major, but. 48:19 It's not E major, but it's decent. I don't think you ever did a song in the major, was still a problem. That's funny too. You gotta get correct, it was a freeze. 48:28 Did you? I have. I have. So why'd you drop E major? What happened? Why we gotta go back to that? Because Mark would be in a dick. No, 48:36 I'm not. I like to close to the story. Why don't you want to be called doctor? Because I don't want to be pretentious. Me neither. And E major 48:45 is pretentious? Major is in itself. If it was E minor, he might still roll. It's a better key. He flat butter. Yeah, 48:53 but doesn't have the same room I'm like Never 49:03 heard nothing flat about me. Yummy, yummy. Oh, man. Back to Dick Best. Always back to the beginning. 49:11 Until these ****. That was a good shoot. That was a good shoot out, though. It was good. That was fun. That was a good shoot out. Heather B, all glocks 49:19 down. I'm good now. All glocks down. After that potato soup, I'm good. Yeah, that shit was rocking. Yeah, shut down y'all done. Yeah You 49:27 done Now the 1 thing You know I mean Those of us that work in music The credits are gonna stop 49:36 after May 29th because lotto's retiring. I'm sad to say sad to announce This is her retirement Announcing 49:44 retirement albums. Yeah, just go Lado Lado she's oh shit a fair Lado 49:52 drop in what 2 weeks? Yeah 3 got it. What if she does though? What if it's what if she don't? Come 50:02 on, I think it'd be I think it'd be more surprising if she does. Yeah. Only thing I will 50:10 give her though, you know, with the whole, you know, pregnant, having a child, If she has a plan to where I don't want to be doing music while being 50:18 a mom or something I get that I could understand that but outside of that making the jokes. Yeah, no And if that's the plan that she 50:27 came up with then you got to respect it It sound like a hurt plan Like nobody would have said that just announce a pause you ain't gotta say retirement. See I'm taking 50:35 a break I'm saying that's what I always like just when your girl get pregnant Don't you get to implement more sit the fuck down rules or no? 50:43 The pregnant sister said I'm not so You do right? I was also sit the fuck down shit, and I'm a bitch right sit the fuck down in what way just work Yeah, 50:54 everything ain't you know have the baby nigga. Yeah, oh we bought the song But 51:05 wait, why do we sound toxic That's for the protection of the baby. Yeah. No. Because women today can still work 51:13 while pregnant, and they are strong enough if they choose to all of that type of stuff that they say that's why I couldn't get it all out 51:26 hey when in doubt I talked to a doctor What? In your, in your honest, huh? It just sounds 51:35 crazy. When did you talk to the doctor? The person in the doctor. Come on, come on, Dr. Martin. Oh yeah, I guess that does sound, yeah. Well shit, that's, that's, I mean, 51:43 that's what he's doing. Yeah, that's cool. Dr. Hill, how far away from the Manosphere do you think we are? 51:53 Because I don't be thinking it like on a map. Like if like the blue dot will be right here, Like 52:02 if we're New York State, where's the Manosphere? Where's the Manosphere? Let's start at the equator. Albany? Oh shit, damn. It's 52:10 in us? It's in us. Oh shit. Oh fuck. Oh god damn. How can we change it? I think we should be ourselves. Alright, 52:19 but how can we change it? Yeah, yeah, true. All jokes aside, I don't think this is Man-osphere. I wouldn't work here if I thought it was the Man-osphere. I think we all got 52:27 some Man-osphere shit with us. And, you know, I don't think we're different than nobody else. I think there's different degrees among us, but I think everybody got their own shit. 52:35 Oh, that's good. I give you an example. It doesn't sound good. I give you an example. There are people who would say to me, saying like, sit your ass down when my wife is pregnant, is mannisfier shit. 52:43 But I happen to believe that. Is that healthy mannisfier shit? No. Never can be healthy. No. But I think there's shit that might, but I don't think everything, let me say that differently. 52:51 Just because the Manisfier say it don't mean it's wrong. Yeah. OK. You get what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. But the shit that we call Manisfier shit is not health. Why 52:59 would you, what's your, OK, what's your reason for telling your wife to sit? It can be a good message, but bad message or type shit. It can be a good message, but bad message 53:07 or type shit. Yeah, or sometimes, I mean, sometimes my wife- Or harsh reality of just- Yeah, I mean, sit the fuck down. If you pregnant, I don't want you working, sit down. Go to the house, sit down, 53:16 relax. But if that's not good for her mental health though, What if she needs to do things? Seats 53:26 listen we know Told 53:35 his wife to sit down I'm with him I should have said to me right sit down. Yeah, maybe Malcolm sit the fuck down. I'm with you, Mark. He ain't play. He don't care about the 53:43 next shit. I'm reconsidering my position now. I'll do the reports for you, right? You helped her. Exactly. I've heard women say 53:51 that when they are pregnant You can't go ahead say Thank you I 54:02 got about to go at you don't say it With my oldest in 54:10 my middle because I was there while they were pregnant. A lot of what they wanted to do was to keep their mental health intact so they didn't want to just sit 54:18 around. What about the person that was given the mental health issues? I'm asking, what about the people or the surroundings that might have been there? Because I did that to my 54:26 wife, and she wanted to leave and go to her mother's crib. Right. So I was the person that, Even though I went to the crib, I still ain't going nowhere. That's even more reason if you're the person 54:34 giving them mental health issues, maybe they need to have some other things to distract and not just sit around in the house waiting for you to come home. She can't spell mental health without men. I 54:44 ain't going to lie to you, man. How long you have that in? You know what I mean? Come on, just talk to that 1. Can't spell health without he, right? Ooh. Ooh. Yo, 54:53 that choir did the right thing with you, man. That's the word. I said it before. I said it, I said it. I can't even. I 55:03 guess it's wrong to say that because you know people but there's a lot of women that want to sit you know why some of y'all out there think we man is fair actually let me not jump to y'all yet let 55:11 me do some more internalizing about to say something stupid and in that tone to back to that tone in the dead ass tone 55:20 right We get too much pussy to be Man-A-Sphere, I feel like. So that's not... Them niggas don't be yummy! That's incels. Yeah, that's different. Yeah, that's different. 55:28 Oh, okay. I think they're in the same clique. They're in the same clique, but everybody's a Man-A-Sphere. Man-A-Sphere and then incels is a small portion of the Manasphere. I'm confused. No 55:36 ass, yo. The Sincell niggas are a subsection. Yeah. Some niggas don't really like women. Oh yeah, that too. Niggas like 55:45 pussy. Wait, there's gays in the industry? No, hear what I'm saying. No, no, he's probably go deep. You know he's gotta go deep. A lot of niggas. Bitches watching. Look. You 55:53 said? This bitch is watching. He go deep when they watch. My bitch is watching? No. Whoa. Bitches watching. Oh. That too. You're 56:02 a bitch. No, I'm joking. No, I'm about to say. But no, for real, when you start to talk to men you find out the older you get a lot of niggas grew 56:10 up Not really liking women. Yeah, they like pussy. They like it and pussy like what comes up being around them But some niggas don't like issues with their mom and 56:18 stuff like that. It might start from there. They have a different, just like a warped view. The same thing we was talking about before. Any other time we've talked 56:26 about how women view men. Yeah. And the... And cause we don't identify how men view women. We don't. That's a good, 56:34 yeah. We don't. Some men, you know, they look down on women. A lot of men only want to be around women for what it makes them look like. They don't really appreciate how it 56:42 makes them feel. They don't appreciate them in the moment. They don't sit there and listen to understand who they are and how they feel. That's a fact. I agree with you, man. That's a fact. 56:51 You know what? Oh, God. Tell me more. You've been sitting on that couch too long. What you saying? Tell me more. I told you all I had. Tell me more. That's all I got. 57:00 I think men should learn- Can I lift them? You got more. I think men should learn how to really enjoy women in the right way. How do you go about doing 57:08 it? Hold on, sorry. How do you go about doing it? What's the first steps? Be honest about who you are as a man and then getting a chance to get to know them as a person. So now if you're honest about who you are and it turns her off, do 57:16 you just let her go? Be prepared. Even if you like her, you let her go. You have no choice. What you trying to pull with your different? Different. What you say? You trying 57:25 to watch? They ain't even saying nothing. People are talking with his eyes. It's crazy. Yo. Joe, why do you stay so quiet? They going to mute up. It's like, oh shit. And she say, she say 57:33 shit. Mute up, bitch. You know Joe it's all a quiet they're gonna do that Always 57:46 interrupt them with a money You up Hey So you gotta be gonna be willing to accept rejection and 57:55 because sometimes people lie because they don't want to be judged, right? And sometimes you lie in the situation because you want to complete the goal. Because if you really tell a woman in 58:03 that situation who you are, not sometimes she won't give you the boost. Niggas lie because niggas don't want to deal with rejection, and they also don't want to have to take the chance of not being accepted by the people 58:11 that you want. So a lot of niggas aren't comfortable with just not being appealing to every woman that they meet. So they create a 58:19 different character and lean into that instead of really showing who they are. Like you get to a certain point, I'm comfortable with any woman that wants to be around me, they're around 58:27 me because they actually know me as a person. So you show who you are instantly on the front. Today, not at hello. Today, yeah, not before. Okay. 58:35 I think we've all done that. We've all, I won't say all, but I think we've all had a point in our life where we created a character or a character of ourselves to keep certain women 58:44 around Logan in what we needed to. Yeah, but you're at a stage where you're willing to be honest not just with other people with yourself Mm-hmm. Yeah, you talked about that 58:52 on our podcast. Yeah, yeah, which comes out this Monday. Oh My pockets no, just my guess is 59:00 a money came on my pocket I can't I like him and his wife nice nice. So He did a great job talking about dating and love and relationship, you revealed some shit that 59:08 I didn't know about you. It was super. Are you doing that shit again? Are you revealing shit every time you go to some weird dude? Are you doing that, the breadcrumb shit you 59:16 doing? If that's what you want to call it. I like that, bro. It's honesty, man. It's honesty. Can I get some advice, some parenting advice? From 59:24 me? No. Oh, no. No. No. I love it. Holy shit. He's being honest about who you are. From the front of the whole crew. It's 59:32 not major, it's just my daughter is graduating college next week. Congrats. Congratulations, big deal. Yeah, big deal. I don't know what she gonna do next. 59:41 And I don't think she know what she gonna do next. Which is great, she's brilliant, she's wonderful, she's gonna be fine. What's her major? American Studies. So 59:49 she wanted to go to law school was the reason and now I think she's still gonna go to law school eventually but she's still not 100 percent sure about whether it's gonna be law school. While she's 59:57 figuring it out how long do I pay for shit? You're not paying for school no more. Right, but you got 1:00:05 a discount, n***a. Oh, so you say it's keep going. I'm talking about like apartment. Wait, wait, why she trying to figure it out? There are regular 1:00:13 jobs that she can get in the meantime, right? Is that the answer? You on your own, you done? No, no. Before I answer, 1:00:21 can I ask a question? Always. Are you still paying are you still paying the girl that found your phone numbers? Oh the assistant the only? 1:00:30 Yeah, you still paying that bill actually I don't pay a bill, but I do loan the money got it But you still loan her money Yeah, 1:00:39 I got mark as the worst money manager in the world I do I do I think I said that before I've said it to him Yeah, I got him as the worst 1:00:49 He's just paying shit. I'm up there, huh? No, you up there too money man, no, yeah me too. 1:00:57 Really? I got Mark is just paying mad Shit, I pay man shit actually necessary. Yeah It's the necessariness of 1:01:05 it is debatable, but I'm with you. I definitely could trim the fat. Well, that's why I asked the question I asked. That's fair. Because in what world is that 1 necessary? 1:01:15 That's relatively insignificant. There's a value to it. I get a value back for that. That adds up. I get a value back for that. She has the old number. And she 1:01:23 sends me, like, when people hit me up for speeches and things like that, she makes a point to send it to me, the shit that I might not get. I have already gotten enough money. Enough money from her 1:01:31 to pay her the phone bill for the next 5 years. Exactly. It's not the point. That's damn near highway robbery. Give 1:01:39 me my fucking- And I don't pay her phone bill, she has to borrow money. But let's not get into that. Tell people this is the new number and allow you to go ahead and do 1:01:47 your business. Yeah, but most people don't do that. If you ask somebody, if you got a new phone and somebody, the old people kept calling, would you keep tracking down the person who's? No, but I would go out 1:01:55 my way to kind of like, find a way to get the general public to know that this is a new outlet you can reach out to, email something, 1:02:03 I'm not going to keep letting that person feel like they obligated to get money from me because they have my old number. To your example, email address and you got 20 grand off of 1:02:11 that. Then I'm willing to loan her $100 when she asks me once in a while. So I owe them money because they gave 1:02:19 somebody money. No, I don't owe her. And I do it as a, again, she borrows, she's always paid it back so far. It ain't even about the payback though, bro. Yeah, none of that's the point. It's not 1:02:27 about the payback. Like, If mad people are calling the old number, I get her reaching out to you saying, yo, I'm getting calls from XYZ, 1:02:36 whatever, people reaching out trying to reach you. That's when you put something up or you get it out there that this is not my number anymore, it's my new number. And 1:02:45 that's that. Like after a certain amount of time, whoever should have the new contact should have it. People shouldn't even be hitting you 1:02:53 on that old number no more. Right, because I did it to cut people off. But occasionally I did it so abruptly, because y'all got the text in the middle of the night, I did it so abruptly 1:03:01 that there are people who I probably would have given it to or people who I talked to once a year For money or things like that who reach out from companies and things like that. And so that's what that's that's the 1:03:09 gap What even is let me let me even in even in this let me ask you At the risk of just sounding like I ain't shit. Are you why Why 1:03:18 are you obligated? Are you obligated to this? Do you feel obligated? Not the phone, not the phone, not the phone. Your daughter, like are you obligated? No, I don't feel obligated. 1:03:26 For me with the kid thing, it's more a question of what's the best thing. Because part of me feels like making her garden work with no support will make her figure out, 1:03:34 I mean relatively no support, you know what I mean? Will make her figure it out faster. And then there's a part of me that's like, I wanna have some level of safety and comfort so she's not 1:03:42 doing certain things that I don't want her to do. And maybe that's mannisfier shit to some people. But I don't want my daughter working at a bar at 3 in the morning in the city, because I don't 1:03:50 feel good about that. You think that's mannisfair shit? Just saying that's not mannisfair. I don't think so. That's mannisfair shit. No, and it's father shit. Yeah. And in today's economy. 1:03:58 Being a father don't stop at graduation. Being a father don't stop at age 18, age 21. That shit is forever. It's man enough to immediately put her in nightlife like there aren't 1:04:06 other kids. Well, we're living in a real world, too. In an ideal situation, cool. But in a real situation. And she's mentioned bartending, that's what. Look, in a real 1:04:14 situation, There are very few jobs nowadays that these kids, that's why my first question was, what's her major? There are very few jobs today that 1:04:23 you graduate from college and you can pay your bills on your own. Very few, when I say very few, my nigga, it might be 5%. Especially depending on where you live. Especially depending 1:04:31 on where you live. You don't think some of this thinking also can hold the child back at some point? Yeah, but I think you release the reins slow. I don't think that you just go from full, 1:04:40 Yeah, I don't think you are. Dependency to none. I think that you slowly let it go. But what does that look like for you? I'm an advocate of the job. You gotta 1:04:48 work. I'll support you as long as you're working. But you gotta be working. You gotta be doing something. He don't wanna be in the crib just digging and rent paid and just not doing 1:04:57 anything. Doing whatever. Wasting time. Is there a world where she can move in with you? Yeah. But I think she would prefer not to. I 1:05:05 offer to that. I think she would prefer not to. She lives in New York, and you know where I live, so I currently payin' rent. Oh, she's in the 1:05:13 dorm. She graduated, it all kinda ends in May. And she lives in New York, that's expensive. That's my point. That's the shit. So it's like, shh. Get a little ass over here to Jersey, get a 1 bed room 1:05:21 or a studio, and then you could commute back and forth to New York. Oh, that's interesting. You could commute back and forth to New York if you get a job. Like I would try to 1:05:30 recommend working in New York, because the pay is more, and it also gives you a different level of corporate. Like 1:05:38 when you work in Jersey, shit is so spread out, it's different working in corporate. In New York it gives you a little bit more grit but 1:05:47 me personally I would say yo you have to get a job you got to be doing something you can't just be sitting at home inactive. But, especially the Manhattan Red. 1:05:55 Right, exactly. Or get 2 roommates in New York. If she lived with you, is there rules that she has to, how old is she? 22. Is there rules that you have for 22 year old she lives with you 1:06:03 and my rule would be you got to be home by 3 or 22 or stay out all night you can stay out all night I don't want her coming in the house pass a certain time 1:06:11 cuz I will if you say to me your dad I'm gonna be I'm gonna be out all night. I'll see y'all tomorrow. I do have a third option. I'm good with that. Or another option. Oh 1:06:20 please. What you could consider doing, I don't know your finances, but buy something. Way up. That she can live in in the 1:06:28 meantime. I wish I had done this with my family. I don't know if they would have had the means, but had we bought something when I moved to Queens, we could have got a fucking 1:06:36 house that is now 2000000 dollars for like 100 and something. 300, 000. How long you been in New York? 20 years. Damn. So 1:06:45 that might be an option too. Even if it's just like a condo type of situation. So no matter what she does, at least you have the property. You're yes, you're paying a ticket, but that's a great 1:06:53 idea. You own the thing. No, that's the best idea. That's a good 1. Because especially in New York and New Jersey, it's a bunch of multis. Like a lot 1:07:01 of states don't have them. But in New York and New Jersey there's multi-families. So you could become an investor, let your daughter live in 1:07:09 maybe 1 of the apartments for free or for reduced rent and then rent the other 2 units out and be getting rent from those that might 1:07:17 pay off the whole entire house and she could be kind of kill 2 birds with 1 stone. It's hers when she get older. 2 questions for you. If she lives with 1:07:25 you and she has a job and loses her job what happens? I'm always gonna be I'm always gonna be her safety net. It's not like you're kicking her out 1:07:33 because she lost her job. Right. Got it. And all right, she moves with you and she has a job. How long 1:07:41 does this segment last? That's the question I have for you. That's part of what I struggle with because I know coming out of college, I'm going to be on safety net. The question is always like 1:07:49 how long and how much? Bro, these numbers are different. Maybe a year, maybe 2. I promise you B, these numbers are different. I want everybody listening especially, these 1:07:57 numbers are different. It is a real, real different expectation nowadays to just be like, yo, you graduated college, I did my job, you 1:08:06 on your own, it's not happening, bro. These rent in the ghetto, my bad, they just released a report, New York has the highest rent in the nation. The 1:08:14 average rent in New York City is $3, 700. That's crazy. Bro, so if you graduate high school, I mean college and you make 60, 70, let's say you make 80, which is great 1:08:22 coming out of college, you can't afford rent. They gotta get roommate, you can't do that. You gotta have a roommate. Yeah, that's $40, 000 a year just in rent. I think Mark should encourage her coming home. 1:08:31 Me too. I think he should encourage her. I think you should encourage her coming home. I think you should encourage him. I think you should encourage him coming home. I like Parkside. Parkside is the best. Parkside is dope. The investment initiative, if he's able, because 1:08:39 he has a spending issue we were talking about. If you have a come home and he puts something to the side, then he could be able to invest properly. He could be able to take his time and 1:08:48 say, okay, you're gonna be here for a year, and then I'm gonna take a year to save it, and then I'm gonna do that. Instead of just jumping out the window having an extra bill. I got 50 grand, I put away 1:08:56 3, 4000. That's what my father did. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you stay here for that and I put away, and it works, So I think that Mark should do that. I 1:09:04 think that you should- I still like Park's idea just because it gives you that- He can still do Park's idea, but give him some time. After. I think the motivated 1:09:12 factor to going back home is she might go ahead and get a push to want to go ahead and figure out what it is that she needs. That's true. There you go. I think that for 1:09:20 the long term, that's 1 side. As far as, because if I'm home in my parents crib, I'm working, you're the fuck out. I gotta get it, I gotta get it. That's there, and I'm talking, that's 1 side. So I think motivating 1:09:28 her to get back home. But I've seen it go the other way. I used to be very comfortable and not having to worry about being 1:09:37 home, where you not buying the groceries, you not buying the toiletries, you not buying. That's why that get her out on her own, even if you still support it in that sense, at least 1:09:45 that independence kicks in where I am responsible for all of this shit. Let me ask you a question, not trying to be funny. Like she got half company? Yeah, I 1:09:53 mean, yeah. What's the reason? I don't really, no I'm asking. I'd have to think that through. Because that's a real thing, like, with that look. No, no, I mean, I don't care if people 1:10:01 come over, but can a dude spend the night in the house listening? That nigga Mark said, he's talking like, you talk too fast, Doc. That nigga 1:10:09 start short-circuiting. And you, my man, because you said it in a way that was so fly. But for the 1:10:17 past 10 minutes, I've been sitting here like, Adewan. Can't you date? Why is this his issue? No, 1:10:26 no, no. And that's a thing. Yeah, that's a thing. That's tough. Some parents let the niggas spend the night. That is true. You're not letting a dude spend the night. I'm not letting a dude spend the night. All 1:10:34 of it. Why not? I just don't feel comfortable. But you feel comfortable letting her stay out the whole night? Yes. She grown. She's an adult. 1:10:42 She's an adult. We're in my kitchen making eggs and shit. OK, so may I ask you a question? If she lived out of state, right, and had a boyfriend, and she 1:10:50 comes into town for the holidays with her boyfriend, and they're staying at your place, can he sleep over the night then? Yeah, but I'll say, how close are we to the holiday yet? If 1:11:01 they were serious, like they've been together a couple years, I'd have to think about that. And she's 22, 23. I'd have to think about that. But if she just said, I got a boyfriend 1:11:09 and he gonna spend a night over the holiday. Yeah, we in town for the weekend. I'd struggle with that. And you got a big ass crib. 1:11:18 You got a money. No, not in your early 20s. Especially for hotels. I remember... I might buy him a hotel. Like my family is funny. Like my 1:11:26 family would be like, yo, if y'all not married, y'all can't sleep in the same Bed So my family came and me and my girl was together for 4 or 5 years and 1:11:34 they did not allow us to sleep in the same bed And my house because we can say yes, I would feel differently if she was Creepy 1:11:45 That's a common shit. That's some horror story shit. Some niggas not playing that shit. And I like that about you, it's because you abide, 1:11:53 right? Yeah. Would you abide? Would you? I'd be in some shit. What? What the fuck? All right, man. Come on, 1:12:01 come on. Come on, tell me that. Now I'm going by your door. Crack city! That's not what you're talking about, mom. You done. I'm 1:12:10 just like, ish. Y'all ever done that before? What? Crack with your parents when I was a dog? Yes, with My 1:12:19 parents, her parents. Yeah, well. It's just respect. It's just proud. And they got up and went to the attic. Goddamn. That was in the same room, but you was sitting there. You was horny that night too. Most of the time, 1:12:27 you're horny as well when you came out of my man's room. What? When you can't hold it. When you can't hold it. Next to you. But he was speaking the high. He was speaking his arms. He was speaking his arms. He was 1:12:35 speaking his arms. He was texting back and forth to Wolfie. I 1:12:45 don't got enough discipline to not pop for 2 days like on some more Yeah, yeah Right 1:13:09 I would rather say to my daughter, if you got a serious boyfriend up in here, I want y'all to move the way y'all move. Y'all just be comfortable stay at the hotel of the street 1:13:17 come through so you and do can be how you're gonna envision No, I don't nice that they stand at the hotel Get 1:13:26 a three-family money, I'm walking through that's what you're gonna have you'll actually make money on the gas. Yeah, you're gonna get 3 families. Oh shit. Oh, you're gonna get 3 families. Why you say 1:13:34 that? It's not nice. Just kidding. I'm joking. It's a good 1. I'm joking. Y'all so cute though. Yeah, 1:13:44 like if you came to be, I'd probably get old. But y'all girl dad, so I can't say. That ain't how I go 1:13:52 in the shows I be watching. At all. The dad wake up, sleepy, go downstairs to get some milk. And dude right there. 1:14:01 Oh boy. Oh shit. Yo, Coldboy. Yo. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. It 1:14:09 don't work Like that is some niggas quiz do will respect my house It 1:14:18 don't work like that niggas. Everybody quib nigga. Everybody gets tougher than you. That's our stroke. You couldn't even do that for me. Niggas old. I beat the door with a shot. Niggas old. He young 1:14:26 and in his early twenties. Word. Beats your ass. Guess who ain't tougher than. Yeah. Roscoe? Yeah, Roscoe. You might have a bigger gun. 1:14:37 You're gonna shoot the boyfriend. You have a, outside of Mark, your 1:14:46 kid is the oldest, right? Out of everybody here. Have you start thinking about what's... With Joe. With the kid, yeah. Oh shit, Trey, 1:14:54 I forgot. Oh, I forgot about Trey, my bad. How is Trey older than her? Trey lost. Trey's what, 20? Trey older than my daughter. Trey is 20. He's 1:15:02 older than my oldest daughter. He's not 29. He's not 29. Goddamn 29. 25, same shit. I'm Trey and my daughter the same age. 1:15:10 Okay. By the time this goes out, probably we'll be 25, actually. What's the date of the date? Oh, hey. Yeah, actually, by the time this out. Happy birthday, Trey. Happy birthday, Trey. 1:15:18 What day is his birthday? It's his birthday. That's my mom's birthday. Yeah. Yeah, my mom. Damn, it's going to be crazy too, because it's her own mother's day. Rest 1:15:27 in peace, mom, dude. But now, so Damn, I forgot about Trey. Have y'all start thinking about the fact that y'all gonna be close to like the well 1:15:35 your grandparent already Yeah, the grandparent shit Maybe 1:15:49 3 months away I'm close he humping he humping. Oh if we're doing that, then 1:15:57 yes, I'm close. Yeah. I don't see my kid having a kid no time soon. Okay, well you ain't got to see it, Stevie Wonder. What the fuck is your problem? You ain't even controlling that, right? 1:16:05 Of course I'm not, I'm not saying I am. I'm just saying, listening to him. Listening to how you're moving. Yeah, he Don't seem like that. It don't see anybody that would have seen 1:16:13 me at 17 would have been like, alright Yeah, he's like a kid is coming. I don't see that in him is all I'm not in control of really I don't see it at 17 a nigga knew you 1:16:21 was about to I was well, yeah But you know you while in though you thought about that with J. Oh, you're humping And when 1:16:29 I'm saying wow, right 17, let's say I came out of rehab 17 18 met his mom Immediately moved in 1:16:37 immediately lived there. We cook a bye mom. We go. Yeah, come on. That's a baby. We laugh Yes, come yeah, she's older But 1:16:49 I mean have you in because my son turned 17 so I'm starting to think about it. I'm not envisioning it, but I'm prepared. And I threatened my kid, 1:16:57 too. What does that mean? Well, I think that he heard it. I know, I don't think he's listening, but I think he heard it. Hey all right these 1:17:05 talks that like Marcus told me I was good I think I've had some of them like like even the 25 talk you'd be 25 1:17:13 I've been having this talk I'm even saying that you was something out of this here. Back then he laughed, oh shut the fuck up old nigga. Now 25 is 1:17:21 at your door and you kind of understand some of these things. Now he just whispering shut the fuck up old nigga. Right, right. Shut the fuck up. Nah, he probably ain't even whispering, he ain't saying shit. Wait 1:17:29 till you leave. Easy, he wait till you leave. Link in the car. Fuck man. Cause I'm having the 18 year old talk. What's 1:17:37 the 18 year old talk? More law shit, more of how you're really viewed as an 18 year old adult when it 1:17:45 comes to the law and shit, how you need to go about When you talk about your daughter finishing college, my son has already expressed 1:17:54 he's not doing college. He's like, I want to do certain things. I say, all right, cool. I don't like that, but I'm going to try 1:18:02 to help you do what you can do I'm the way and navigate the right way maybe in the meantime you might want to go pick up a trade You might want to go do something so I at least you can go ahead and 1:18:10 make some money when you need to if you need to live with me you can live whatever you need to do, but Yeah, like the even the girl conversation and him 1:18:18 now having to maneuver around that. I don't know, it's a lot. So I was thinking about it, I had to have the conversation about the sex thing and 1:18:26 how does that look and nigga I'm not with no granddad shit right now. So what? You try that granddad 1:18:35 shit, you're on your own, bucko. Yeah, and that was kind of the conversation I had with her. You want to be a man? Yeah. You want to take care of a human? You're going to take care of 2. Unfortunately, 1:18:43 the part that we all overlooking is We all say that. It ain't even up to him. None of the sons. That is a great point. What do you mean? 1:18:51 It's not, because you can take all precautions. Like I said, condoms bust. She gets pregnant and decides, hey, I heard all that you saying, but I'm keeping it. It 1:18:59 ain't Up to him is what I'm saying. You can still take your precautions, still have sex and still procreate. If that happens, I can understand that. If the common 1:19:07 break or something like that, but if you just willy-nilly out here doing whatever... Listen, I pay my bills, so I can willy-nilly all I want. But I'm saying, how are you going 1:19:15 to know if he's willy-nilly and versus I'm moving correctly? How are you gonna know because I do think that me and him are 1:19:23 having honest conversations and from the things that he's expressed I don't take him to be lying to me about what he's doing. He's expressed enough to let me know he's 1:19:31 not lying. Now I'm gonna keep pushing his ear. That's good, cause you know around that age. Boom boom. So that's why I was asking when you guys are having conversations with your 1:19:39 kids at this point, and you start having that conversation with the granddad shit and all that other shit. I mean I had children when I 1:19:48 was young, so, but, you know. JR been with me his whole life, so now I'm giving him this year, he's about to be 22. This whole year he 1:19:56 got to drive his BMW, do whatever the fuck he want. Yeah, all right. But time is going to come when we have the conversation. I'm 1:20:04 saying if you decide to stop filming or if you decide to do something else, you gotta figure it out. I think his mom is a little bit more lenient because Caribbean, I don't wanna leave my children 1:20:12 out there. There's always a revolving door. I'm kinda like that, but I'm not like that all the way. It's hard, man. But you still got younger siblings that watch it. Like, Princess is 1:20:20 ready to go to college. I'm afraid, like, she wants to go away. I want to move wherever she go, I want to go there. Told my wife about I want to get a place if she, you know, she graduates 1:20:28 next year. What state she looking at? I said, where she trying to go? She's not telling me, she said she don't want to tell me See, I told her yesterday. I'm going 1:20:36 wherever you go. I don't care. I think let them go. I am gonna let it go I don't feel it. I agree. I am that's a real sure baby, though I think you don't 1:20:44 feel good with princess at all. It's a real measure to a path to adulthood. All right, man. Yo, yo, don't play with my children. Yo, I'm going to tell you this right now. Why do y'all keep doing this? 1:20:53 Because it ain't us, nigga. You start with me after you say something. You see you start now? Look, now I'm going to get checked. You start with me. I 1:21:03 don't want to get checked again. Stop. Because you could crack on me without including her. You crack on me. That's my dog. I don't want no problem. But I'm not being funny. I do think that that's tough, that 1:21:11 talk that he's having. The girl, the older daughter talk. And even the position he's taking. That's tough. Yo, I'm coming. I'm fine. I'm getting a crib 1:21:19 over there. I'm gonna be down there. I think I'm bugging. No, you're not. Hey, you're not going. You think I'm bugging, but no. Flip a pop-up. Pop-up is 1 1:21:27 thing. You're not living there. Why you gonna drop me to a bed? You can't live there. If my daughter goes to college and says Houston, I'm gonna get a place in Houston. That don't 1:21:35 mean you going to be in Houston. I will go, I'm gonna be near my daughter, man. You're not gonna be near your daughter. You're not gonna live there for good though. Watch this. I don't know. 1:21:44 All right, so you sound like. That's a good excuse to get this shit prepped down. Yo, You ain't saying. You ain't saying. You ain't saying. You ain't saying that shit now. I gotta have a condo in Houston. I 1:21:52 gotta have a spot in Houston. I need a Houston spot right next to Sakai. I need a condo. I saw that on Friday at 10. I ain't 1:22:00 seen you since. How your apartment doing? Oh, the content house is great. Good, good, so listen. I'm serious. My mom, my sweet, my wife, my 1:22:09 wife is going to be there with me. My wife is going to be there with me. So you're picking up on moving the whole family out there? Well, that's a whole family. Yeah, I don't think y'all would want to 1:22:17 play. Right, right, outside of jail. I just got to protect my daughter. I know how it is when they own them capes, is I got to protect, I don't give a fuck, you can do that. I got to protect my daughter. It's tough though, because you also- My daughter about to be 17. 1:22:25 You don't whisper, nigga, talk loud. I can't. If you got a dog, don't be scared. If you scared, get a dog. If you scared, I got to be near my daughter. Sit in my, 1:22:33 I know what it's like, I watch my, I don't want to talk crazy, I watch something happen where the family member of mine, where they was doing good and when they went to college in Atlanta, 1:22:42 they all fucked up now. I watched that. They dropped out, they was wild on camera, I don't want princes doing that. But you being there may stop that, but it may not. Yeah. 1:22:50 It's hard. I'd send my daughter to college. It's hard. Yeah. It's hard. Listen, at some point, right? At some point, your kids are going to go off on their own. 1:22:59 So college, for me, is the perfect bridge. Like, You might be living on the dorms. You can't do whatever the fuck you want to do because it's DAs and RAs 1:23:07 and shit like that. Right. But you going to live on your own, now it's buck wild time. So it's a bridge between your mother house and your own 1:23:15 house. College is that, in my opinion. You don't think that's an insult? Wild time, it's scary. You don't think that's an insult to your kid a little bit? Like let's just say you- 1:23:23 And to your parenting. Yeah, like as you guys parenting, you want to feel like you instilled all the things into your kid. You guys are being with the libtards. No, No, no, 1:23:32 no. And you guys are being... It's ideal. I'm kind of out of line. I'm with flip-toes. Yes, it could be an insult to my child, but I know reality. I'm saying at a certain point, you have to let go of the control. That's a part of 1:23:40 control that you have to let go of at a certain point. Nope. I was like, no, no, no. No, no, no. My daughter said the same thing. She was talking to me, and she told me, yo, you bugging. 1:23:49 And maybe I am bugging, right? Maybe I am, maybe I am bugging, but. Your daughter's a good girl, and y'all instilled some quality shit in her. I 1:23:57 think at a certain point, you have to rely on your parents. The reason why that don't work, because we know how many good girls we don't get in the class. Hey yo, you 1:24:05 know what's so crazy? Princess said the same thing to me yesterday. But that good girl, at the time we talked about, his daughter is an adult. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. That 1:24:13 good girl. True. Young adult. A young adult, yeah. You're right. My dad was talking all that shit about I don't know what he used to do when the boys was in regular high school He used to call 1:24:21 and have a rapport with the teachers that he thought was gonna continue in college rude awakening They gave him you don't give a fuck about none of that shit. You can't Your 1:24:30 kids are adults adults Getting the fuck off the phone. Yeah, we gotta tell you not sure they ain't tell nothing Yeah, you can't go there responsible That 1:24:38 was the biggest part of the 18-year-old conversation I had to say to my son. You've gotten used to, mom and dad is going to get the call. Nigga, when you turn 18, They're not calling us for shit. 1:24:47 You want to protect the prize, right? I didn't go to college. I didn't go to, I didn't graduate from high school. JR graduated from high school. He chose not to go to college. Princess is going to college and 1:24:55 her grades is good. A pure, all 90s. You want to protect that. I want to make sure that she's safe, that she's comfortable. I know how it is. Yes. 1:25:04 You can try to protect her. I can't. But it's only so much that I can. But you're too old age, though. Flip, so let's say you do that. Now she's 21. She graduates college. That's different. Then you just leave her out to the 1:25:12 world? I'm not going to leave her out to the world, but I'm going to be a little bit more comfortable as I see how she develops in adulthood. Away from you. I remember what I was doing at 1:25:20 16, 17, 18. I remember what I was saying. I mean, we're 2 different people. And she said the same thing that you said. Yo, but that's a dad that's 1:25:28 kind of like Doubting me and what you taught me but yes, but then I can give you examples Where when you gave me the speech and I turned around you did something else 1:25:37 You did something completely different at the day after you gave me the speech. You know what again? It's a lot of fuck up exactly. That's life. We do that. That's life I'm saying so I want to be 1:25:45 there if she falls I want to be there and she's going to so I want to be there for her. Now maybe I'm... It's not your job anymore, big dog. No, it's your job. No, I disagree with you. No, it's your 1:25:53 job still. Listen to this. I can't see. I can't see. I had these conversations with you. Are you fucking kidding me? Let me guess. It's 1:26:01 a boyfriends job, right? No, that's not it. I'm saying she's 18. Yeah, she's allowed to. It's over. Yes, as a parent. You gotta 1:26:09 release the reign slow. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's my advice. Slow. That's what I'm saying, man. Absolutely. Well, because I already know what time it's time to freeze, so I can't wait till, I can't 1:26:17 wait till then, sorry. You know, by the time his daughter, 18, technology gonna be out of hand. You got an oiler gadget. See, go ahead. Yeah, but I know, but I'm gonna freeze, nigga. 1:26:26 It's scary. She told me that, I'm like, damn, you wanna cut out. I lowkey don't wanna, I wanna go to community college. You know what we got to do too? 1:26:35 We got to stop putting how we are traumas onto our kids. To a certain degree. Like I understand. No, no, for 1:26:43 real. For real. This is your game. Game, game. Switch the game. Y'all niggas don't live a real life. Come on, express yourself. I'm sitting here, nigga, I'm about to show you. 1:26:51 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You know it, bro. I do know, so watch this, hold up. So listen to this. You gonna show to your kid in 1:26:59 college, Right? Cool, she been in your high school. Household, we see how you run around your household. You rebel. You, you, right? Then she gonna 1:27:08 get 21 after college. All right, let's say she go to grad school. She gonna get a master, she gonna be 23. Now you gonna release her 1:27:16 to the wolves. And she not gonna have no gradual in the middle where she met a sheep, and then she met a dog, and then she met a, 1:27:24 nigga, you gonna release her at 23 years old, pretty and accomplished to the wolves. And guess what the fuck is gonna happen? Rebellion. Yo, when y'all talk about y'all daughters, 1:27:34 I hear the beer in y'all shit. No, I'm telling you. No, no, no. That's not true. I hear it now. There's no beer. When they talk about their 1:27:42 daughters, it sounds like it's the college full of beer. She's still got that voice. But that's talking about college. But that's the problem though. I said college is the poodles. College, 1:27:51 you starting to get a little bit of experience with them. Y'all leveling this only to what happens when she entertains boys and men. I'm just talking about life period. The things that 1:27:59 happen in life that she has to figure out on her own. Remove all that. There's things that she's going to have to go ahead and learn how to do without you hovering over her that has 1:28:07 nothing to do with men. True. And you have to be willing to let her make those mistakes. She wants to get a job now. She wants to go with it. Yeah, you got to let her. You should let her. You got to let her. Yeah. 1:28:16 Fam, like I keep saying it. And still, and still always. She's trying. And flip, there's nothing wrong. Trying to get from a punk to the stone. She keep telling him, I'm 1:28:24 probably gonna go up school like you used to. All right, I'm coming. Oregon. All right, I'm probably trying to get a job though too. All right, where? Alaska. I'm flipping burgers with 1:28:32 you, let's go. Listen, Linky talked to me, Linky checked me, she just saved me. I looked at Linky like she had foreheads. Yo, 1:28:41 the beautiful thing is having a kid that actually wants to go out there. Let me speak from trauma. When I was young and I gave trouble, nobody, shut 1:28:49 the fuck up real quick. Nobody wanted me around. No 1, not my family, I gave trouble, I was a, I was a, stop, I was a menace. When 1:28:57 you grow your family, you try to preserve that and protect them, because I know what it felt like to be left out there. Period. Period. So let me speak from trauma. 1:29:05 My daughter is my, my children are my world. Nigga, you know how hard it is to fucking let JR go around and smoke and drive around and shit. I was a tough parent, but I gotta let that go 1:29:13 because I realized the dynamic it was having. I told JR the other day, I'm never gonna say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, because experiences make 1:29:21 you adjust. I have to adjust that. Same thing with princess. You don't want to have a boyfriend? No, but I had to understand and I go, hey yo dad, I'm going outside to walk the dog. 1:29:30 But you fucking eating sushi down the block. See him say you playing. I let you go walk the door and now you eating sushi, even though she sent me a picture and told me, but you still ain't saying 1:29:38 it. I don't give a fuck. Flip, let me ask you what- The point is, it's an adjustment. My thing is that, even though I didn't like 1:29:46 that, I wanted to say yo daddy, I would like to go down a block with my boyfriend and stuff so I know that you're okay. I'ma let you go, you can do whatever you want. If she did that, what do you think response you gon' give? 1:29:54 Yeah, go ahead. As long as I know where you at. Do you think she thinks that? That's the point of communication, again, to understand it. You didn't answer. That's the 1:30:02 point of communication, to getting to understand it, regardless of what she think. You know where I'm from. No, that's not true. If she thinks you gon' riff, now I'm alive because she think you want you 1:30:10 somewhere else. And then what happens next? Why you do, you know what, don't think about, hold on, why you think as a parent, you don't have to adjust as well as 1:30:19 much as the kid has to adjust? When they getting older- I just said I have to adjust. Right, but so you saying why she just- Why you be saying? I just said I have to adjust. No, 1:30:27 no, no. Listen to what I'm saying. Don't say, you do that a lot. You point out things. That niggas, I just said I have to adjust. I told you, y'all, you gotta adjust. I said that. Please 1:30:35 don't say that. You're not listening to what I'm saying. I'm fully aware I gotta adjust. You said why didn't she just tell you something? My daughter's 16 years old. Listen to what I'm saying. Outside, I beat somebody up the other day 1:30:43 in front of her. You have to listen to what I'm saying. Because you know I can play in front of my daughter. You can start the communication change too. It don't have to be just on her starting 1:30:51 the communication change. I just said that. Let me ask you a question. You still ain't answering my question though. I said that you have to be able to adjust and get comfortable. My thing is more of protection. 1:30:59 Make sure you're safe because there's a lot of crazy people in these areas, there's a lot of things going on. You're a young lady, your y'all may not be around. That's what I'm saying. Not that I want you not 1:31:07 to go out, just y'all I'm gonna be here, this is where I'm gonna be. It still should be that rapport between father and child. Now if I 1:31:16 realize, like you said, that she doesn't want to communicate that, then maybe I have to be a little bit more easy, and that's what I started to do. Oh, you want the little nigga to come over? Let him come over. 1:31:24 And you said you beat up a niggas. No, somebody did some stupid shit, and I was with my daughter, like started breaking some shit, and then he's calling me a nigga, then I had to put hands on them. But what I'm saying 1:31:32 is that that's what happens. Like, the world is crazy. No, I agree with you. I agree with you to a little bit because, even when I was younger, my mom used to be like, I don't care where you go, 1:31:40 just let me know. Because, God forbid something happens, I need to at least wear a start for looking. So I get that part. But what I'm saying to you is if a kid is, 1:31:50 if a kid is scared about how you're gonna respond, then they're gonna lie. And you're saying what happens after that? Well a lot of times children don't think about what 1:31:58 happens after that. They live in the right now. They deal with the consequences when they come. They don't think to avoid none of that shit. It's just, I did 1:32:06 this because I know if I tell him I'm going over here with my boyfriend, it's gonna be a problem. So let me get around that. If he finds out, first 1:32:14 off, They think they smarter than us. So they think you not gonna find out. They think I could tell him I'm walking the dog and he'll never know I went to go 1:32:23 do this. I solved the problem. She still sent the picture. I found out cause she sent the picture in the family group. So she's still communicating, but it's like. She just did it in 1:32:31 a way that was easier for, I would say. I would have to hear something before I walked out. So now we have the conversation. Her thing is that I do so, Nico do whatever he, 1:32:39 because I'm real easy on Nico. Nico, he outside, it's 08:00, he go to school the next day, he up. So she's like, I'm real easy on Nico. He's a 1:32:47 boy. He'll do what he want. And she said, I have the best grades and she's right. Same thing my sister going through right now. With that. Y'all watched you raise 1:32:55 these boys a certain way. And now that they're gone, you ain't here moving a certain way with me. And it's not fair. It ain't fair. It's not fair. 1:33:03 It's not fair. It's not fair. Sorry. But we gotta stop, maturity and understanding in society. I know y'all understand it. 1:33:11 Help you guys gain double standards. Double standards exist. Help you guys gain. What do you mean, no. Double standards exist. Hold on, hold on, Brian. You don't even know if it's a double standard. It 1:33:20 is. It is a double standard. It's the definition of a double standard. Let's flip. Let's flip. Education, understanding, life, garners you guys the knowledge 1:33:28 to understand how to move. Some of us is just stuck in a bubble and learning how to get out of that bubble, right? That's just 1:33:36 what it is. Everybody doesn't like, at the end of the day, when it comes to women and men, how I grew up is that a man protects a woman. You protect your daughter because 1:33:44 I was out there, I was playing around with people's daughters. I was, somebody's upstairs, I got caught at 17, hide behind somebody's door. I tell Princess the story all the time. I even 1:33:52 called the girl on Instagram, and we told the story. You know what I'm saying? You still talk to her. Huh? Still hide behind doors. You still talk to her. 1:34:00 I was still, not like that, but I found her Instagram. But that's not even the point. Found it. Found it. Oh shit, look who it is. The point is I was just telling her. Do you remember I was behind your door last week? No, 1:34:09 not last week. Oh shit. Yeah, but you know. But you know it's so fucked up. But that's the point. But real quick, real quick. I'm ready, I'm ready. I got a little bit more understanding after that and she told me what you said 1:34:17 and I'm being a little easy, I'm just saying, but that doesn't, I'ma tell her that, but inside it burns me up. This is the thing too, it's like, remember when we were younger, 1:34:25 we were doing wild shit. The girls that had like the super overprotective parents was the whos, they were probably more. The preacher's kid 1:34:33 came home first semester freshman year pregnant. But even inside of that, when we don't put the same energy that we give our daughters, you start to 1:34:41 hear about the shit that we did with boys, and we look at it as like, I just, regular day to day, it's a lot of boys that have fucked up childhoods because 1:34:50 their parents gave them that level of freedom in comparison to stepping on. So we can't look at it like that. Double standards is double standards though. You just have to adjust to 1:34:58 it. And I agree, Prince said it all the time. I have to agree, man. And I have to do better. And I started to do better. I don't think we should have double standards, but I also think But 1:35:06 double standards is real more even though we shouldn't have it. You wouldn't expect your daughter protect your son If they was the same age me. Yeah, or 1:35:14 you like like like flip saying like yo It's a he's taught that it's a boy's job to protect women. Yeah, 1:35:22 that's what I mean. That's why I say it's not a double standard for me. Some things are, and I try to avoid them. For example, like, I'll give you an example. My son, if he came home 1:35:31 in that same example for the holiday, he couldn't have his girlfriend over either. I agree. Because that would be a double standard. I agree. But I would be more comfortable 1:35:39 with my son working at 2 a.m. At a bar than I would my daughter. Of course. I don't think that's a double standard. It's because I think that he'd be better equipped to protect himself. If 1:35:47 she could protect herself and he couldn't, I would do the opposite. Boys tend to be better at that thing, girls. Just because of how they're physically built and because of how society is. But it's not because 1:35:55 of boys, because he's better. You know what I'm saying? So those are the kind of things I'm trying to say. Hey, dress it up, you see that? I'm not dressing up, I'm not dressing up. I'm saying it. But it's the title. You're all correct, you're all correct. I'm just saying like- 1:36:04 But that's the, that might not be the double standard, but that is the catalyst for the double standard. Like, yo, 1:36:12 we give leeway to our sons more because they can physically protect themselves better, because they are less vulnerable than your daughter. 1:36:20 But that's our problem because we only talk into the physical aspect of protecting each other. Your son might not need to be out at 2 1:36:28 or 03:00 in the morning as well if his mental is not prepared for some of the things that are going to happen at that time. I agree. So we always 1:36:36 learn when we say to protect, like there's certain things a woman can protect her brother from that has nothing to do with physical. For sure. At some point you have to start 1:36:44 having conversations about what you're saying. Yeah, That's why I say I wouldn't base it on their gender. I would base it on their personalities. On the kid, but some 1:36:52 things tend to be connected, correlated to gender, but it wouldn't be the reason for it. Like all things equal. We're gonna say all things equal. So then we gotta just change the whole 1:37:00 operation of how our minds are wired. That's the point of getting better as parents and changing shit and breaking a cycle. Wait, it's not a just. You 1:37:09 got to be around situations like this, have the conversations. I want to be able to deal with my child within their personality and not whether they're 1:37:17 boy or girl. Like I want to see what my child provides as far as what they're able to handle and what they can't and I don't think that's specific to boy 1:37:25 or girl. So that means a girl should not feel like she wants to be protected by a man anyway now moving forward. That a man should protect me. So moving forward, she might just 1:37:33 like, I'm on my own, I'm gonna stand on my own, I don't feel like a man should protect me. I mean, I'm just, because that's what I want to hear the answer. The 1:37:44 answer for me is physical protection, yes. She should always want to feel like her father would physically protect her and also in other aspects. But 1:37:52 I do think if you're instilling certain qualities into your child, at some point you have to trust that they're going to protect themselves when it comes to what type of men they should date, 1:38:00 what places they should go. Those are things that you can't control. You can try to move to Houston, do whatever, she's still gonna have time away from herself to choose 1:38:08 to do what she wanna do on her own. Like you can't control that. You gotta decide on what jobs she wanna pick, what career she wanna have and all that other, what friends you want 1:38:17 to have. Sometimes we don't even talk to our kids about the protection that they need from picking friends. We be worried about all this other shit that really we should focus on. I agree with 1:38:25 you. That's not me, even with the job and stuff like that. I'm just saying, the conversation was, oh, you have a resume and all that? Damn, 1:38:33 okay. There are people in the world who had parents on them that became extremely successful. Some 1:38:41 of them we watch today, who gave them that extra push, that extra support. We've seen it the other way too. We've seen the other way. So 1:38:50 it boils down to what's in the child. Exactly. I think there's a way to push and there's a way not to push. So 1:38:59 we just use them push generally. Joe Jackson could say y'all push my kids. He 1:39:07 did. And they all were immensely successful. But that push also could have potentially done severe mental harm 1:39:16 to these kids. So we're not even gonna just say every push is the same. You think Michael would have been the same if it was for Joe Jackson's push? But he might have been 1:39:24 alive. He might be a really happy school teacher right now. Okay. Yeah, but then I'd have never got Thriller or Bad. Right, but 1:39:33 there might be something in the middle. I think you take the good and the bad with all that because like we're saying, Michael is something totally different in personality 1:39:41 compared to the other kids. So maybe a Jackie could handle some of that push and understood where it was coming from in comparison to what Mike did. Jackie. No, 1:39:50 Michael, Michael might have, or Michael might have, you might have, but Michael could just be the more talented 1. So he got pushed harder, he was younger, he 1:39:58 -> 100:06.580] was the second youngest. Jackie wasn't getting no whippin'. Jackie, first off, you know the first kids always get the weapons, the worst. Nah, that's not true. Parents get soft. Jackie's the