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0:00 The thoughts views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts offer entertainment purposes only I Repeat it 0:08 is not serious. It is not real. No 1 is exposing revealing indicting Or telling you 0:16 anything about themselves Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best 0:24 interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. We're here. Turn this mic off. Charlie's. Listen, it's a hot day. 0:32 Yo, y'all let my good air out. Yo. I didn't used to understand Nana. Nana let my good air out. That is crazy. Don't let that 0:40 good air out. Y'all let my good air out. He turned into a mom. Oh, she said, I don't sleep with the con that man or some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mama 0:49 said, she, your nanny said, you letting the air out of the house, guys. The good air, the good air. So listen now, it's a beautiful day in New York City. Happy Monday 0:57 to each and every 1 of y'all out there, Especially if you are a Nick fan what my man said our mayor is Muslim our bagels 1:05 are Jewish and our Christian is Dior Stop fucking playing with us nigga They 1:24 show you the Nick fans that they wouldn't let in the building. What they doing outside. They chase the nigga with the spurs jersey on. Yes. They chase that nigga. 1:32 I seen all that is why I don't respect you and we Are you doing that no no no no 1:40 he was on the street No, I'm saying antagonizing is fine The street is great wearing whatever 1:48 garments. I would prefer to wear on my body Are you playing with us like that? Bring the feeling that niggas gotta get duffed 1:56 niggas gotta get chased all that bullshit. Come on, y'all Mark and go to New York City on Monday doing that shit. No he won't. No he 2:04 won't. I promise you. No he wouldn't. No he won't. No he won't. Oh okay, or his daughter or somebody. I'd go solo with a fucking Tim Duncan jersey on. No you would not. Hey 2:12 Mark, you will get scuffed up. They would beat the dogs shit up. Don't let that rural, afraid of doctor shit go on. I'm gonna be there to secure you. And 2:22 he can't run fast in the jeans. No, he can't. I don't need to run, Joe. That nigga get to run in them jeans or rip off of me. I don't know anything like that. We're supposed to be tarot 2:31 wafers. Like Rick and Ruth and some shit. They are tarot wafers. He's just waiting on his moment. That's it. That's crazy. Listen, I love this shit. Me too. I love this shit. I 2:40 want to give a fuck about what no and once again, I'm a Lakers fan. I'm a Sixers fan. We got swept by these niggas. I don't give a fuck. This is New York. This is niggas getting 2:48 a energy back And the fourth quarter the other day every male shot niggas went crazy 2:57 that shit was amazing to fill that energy It was like 90% of New York are Nicks 3:05 fans versus the Giants Jets, Mets, Yankees. Like when it comes to basketball, it's really all of us. I mean, 3:13 what's the other alternative? Can I ask y'all a silly girl question? Fucking nuts. Can I ask a silly stupid girl question? Now's the time. Out front of the game, 3:21 right, this really tall, beautiful white girl had gotten to this thing with this other guy where they had no ball, but they were pretending they had a ball and she was slam dunking on them. 3:29 And Everybody was excited. What the fuck is that? Oh, horniness. Yeah. Like that's not a thing. People pretend to play the ball. Niggas do that. Oh yeah, niggas do that. 3:38 That's a thing for sure. They were going crazy though, cause she slammed them. We used to do that back in the day. We'd just walk up to the street. That's the whole nigga in the door. We'd be crossing the doorway. No, no. Never mind. I'd Be in the middle of the street 3:46 and he walks by. Throw the ball behind your back. Throw the ball right behind your back, nigga. What? I love that shit. Yo, did y'all hear what happened with Tyree Hill? No. 3:54 No, what happened? So a lady suing Tyree Hill, similar to shit Mona was talking about. We talked about this. That lady broke her leg? 4:02 Oh yeah. Every time I think he about to break news, it's something from like 2 years ago. Tell me Ish, I 4:10 didn't hear it. No, that's cool. They were playing, they were running football drills and he tackled her and broke her leg, allegedly. She started kicking his ass. She was whooping his ass. 4:18 The fact that it's that easy, I want to stop I want you to stop it Tell me the story. I think we just 4:26 told it No, cool you got it Why she make you smile so I thought I was a sucker for rage bait There's nobody 4:35 this nigga honest on the level of who from 0 to kill everybody in here that fossil rage bait 4:43 he's at the top, but you right up there with him With rage bait listen this nigga says something about Freddie Jackson, and I think you're fair you hear Cuz 4:51 certain singers you just can't play he got a reason for why he would have killed you over pretty jack You can't play with certain singers. Okay, you played with shard a in a way. We're 4:59 like you just No, I did it he went crazy Personal taste That does not mean I don't appreciate 5:08 and know who she is. You said she was overrated. Don't say he was hot-tasting. I think as a singer she's overrated. He could sing better than her. He could sing better than her. He could sing better than her. He could sing better than her. 5:16 He could sing better than her. He could still mad that you said you got to sing Tyrese. You better slow down. I want to give a fuck what these niggas talking about. Wait, you were just plying that day. You don't think you got to sing Tyrese, do you? You think you 5:24 can out-talk Dr. Umar? No. Okay. I do. I do. I do. You got to ask a better question. I think I can sing better than a lot of people 5:32 but the question is Harry's about vocal range we talk about Yes, yes I can sing better than Tyrese 5:40 Gibson Has been online offering the slapbox Tyree doing me do I keep bringing it up I 5:51 Call Imani off camera and complimented him on how well he did with that interview because Tyreece was giving bitch ass nigga what the fuck you think you is? And you gave 5:59 nigga I mean me and he nigga. I shut that shit down. The Harlem Boys Choir nigga, you know what's up with me. Listen let me be clear. Been around the world before I was 16 nigga. Let's put respect, well 6:07 I put respect on niggas and what they do, but I'm not gonna see him like jump out Don't Nobody 6:16 stand out in the chorus like he me and he. I don't know. 00000000. 6:25 Silent night. You know between bars, everybody think you go take something. I don't care. The only person 6:34 that started that bullshit is him. That's true. That's true. That's Joe's shit. 6:42 He'll start the narrative, they pick it up, and then you know he'll do. They say it. People be saying that. They say it. Yo, you know they saying that. Rage me. 6:50 It's like you're in love with Al. It don't work though. It don't work opposite. Only work 1 way. We gotta work on that though. Armani, so how do you see yourself, 6:58 and I'm asking a serious question. So Tyrese is here, Armani's here. Who's in between, where do you see yourself compared to say Marvin Gaye? Okay, 7:06 when you say here and here, you're talking about vocal ability? Yeah. You're talking about just that, right? We're not talking about career. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, fuck careers. Vocal ability. Because there's plenty of people, that career 7:14 is a lot larger. I'm talking about talent. You have a more talented singer than Tyrese. Are you more talented singer than, I just wanna do like a calibration. Yeah. This 7:22 goes downhill from- How about like a- Kid Cudi. Sure. Kid Cudi, are y'all serious? Yo, he's so disrespectful. I wasn't going for 7:30 that, I was there. How about this, how about like a Jesse Pau? Oh no, Jesse's up there. No, Jesse's different. It's his vocal range. 7:38 No, Jesse is different. How about a Tevin Campbell? No, Tevin Campbell's a countertenor, no. Y'all playing amazing. I gotta remind y'all. 7:47 Can I step in and ask you a question? Please. Please. Yo, Y'all better stop playing on my Y'all 8:19 better stop playing with my boy. Can I jump in and ask a question? E-mini, give me 1 person, right, 8:27 that you feel is overrated and that you could sing better, that had like, moderate success like a good example of that yeah that person if 8:36 that better than moderate success it could be a lot but I don't know they're successful 8:44 no You know you can sing better than me you feel like they were overrated Yeah, okay, but y'all see me go new girl The 8:54 weekend nice I can sing better than we sing better weekend, okay He left that go stop yo who said 9:02 he's gonna say weekend Cory you knew trying to think of I mean you answered it 9:10 I know that's somebody that's somebody I don't know if you want a multiple but that's 1 person I could that's a major 1 maybe the biggest well who do they the weekend The 9:19 weekend what things better in the weekend? Vocally vocally we're not so my music not so my what they've done career. I think vocally 9:28 You think better than the weekend. Yeah, these are on the weekend But you said on the weekend. Oh, shh. That's why I agreed. I was like, yeah, he probably do. Yo. 9:37 Yeah. Contributors. I want, I want. They played too much. Yo, Mark. They played too much. Mark, I want you 9:45 to. Is this crying? This is crying. He heard it. He heard it in this ball. That was funny, son. That was funny. So, to me there, everybody laughing. I'm not. Everybody laughing. 9:54 Tell me what you do better than somebody in your respective field. I like that question. That had more success. Since everybody gotta laugh, right? I like that question. Who did you build houses better 10:03 than? Who do you do speeches better than? Oh, get to ice. Give me something. Don't put me in this. Nah, my man ain't laugh. My man ain't laugh. Fuck out of here. 10:11 This my nigga. No, you just can't think of nothing. You just can't think of nothing. Joey laugh. Joey laugh. So no, no, that thing is good. Give me who you think you do 10:19 better than, who's had more success than you. In the field of what? In the field of? Yours. CNN. 10:27 I'm having a few fields. CNN. Oh, God. Talk heavy on him, Mark. What few fields, Mark, God? I mean, he got a doctorate, that's a credit 10:35 to him. I'm a New York Times best-seller author. That's the facts. I'm a award-winning journalist. Woo! See, I be feeling like That's kind of the same boat. I know it's 10:43 different. That's totally different 99% of you write books don't have TV shows and vice versa. And almost none of them have award-winning 10:52 scholars. See, I don't, oh, listen, I'm not Imani. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. No, I think it was a good question. I don't count your TV shit 11:00 under the journalism bucket either. Like TV people put me like Roland Martin in that kind of category. As a scholar, people put me like Cornel West and those people. 11:08 And as a podcaster, people put me with like, Tarray in them. Those are 3 different fields with 3 different sets of colleagues. You popping it too much for me, nigga. Let's shoot at this nigga. 11:17 Let's shoot at this nigga. He doing a lot. But he named 3 people and 3 different fields that's been doing it for a certain 11:26 amount of time. He didn't name them, he killing it. But here's the thing, I don't feel like People who have better success than me, I should have better success than them. I feel like I'm right where I'm 11:34 supposed to be. I don't ever look at somebody who's doing better than me and be like, I'm more talented than him. I don't think like that. My brain don't work that way, but I'm not bitter. Oh, 11:42 so many. You thought that. Yo. I love this nigga. Yo, And the fact that, and the funny shit is that, I didn't mean you. You're lying 11:50 though. I'm not. Who do you think I feel like that about? Who do you think I feel like that about? Let's not do the whole, I wish 11:58 I could say it, I can't say it. No, no, no. I ain't gonna play that game. I knew your answer won't be that way. But it's the honest to God truth. I don't feel like that. Cornell West is the most decorated 12:07 black scholar Nevermind, I'm just using example. No, but let's find some more talented to me. He should be you don't feel like you're more talented than Torrey Yeah, 12:15 but I think I've had more success in tour right. Agreed. There's something there, but I ain't gonna. Okay. You said Roland 12:23 Martin. I think Roland is... Chubby. I mean, Roland is like a big brother to me. I don't 12:31 think... You're a shade. I think we're... You could still be better than your big brother. I'm better at some things than him, he's better at some things than me. What would he be better than you at? I 12:39 think he's a better journalist. I think he's a better traditional journalist in the best sense of that. He has more refined skills, he's more technically skilled. He 12:48 too humble to play this game. He's really good, and he's a great entrepreneur, and he's able to build a whole empire that I couldn't do, on top of the fact that he has the talent. So that's 12:56 why he is where he is. So you said TV, journalism, and then podcasting. So Torrey was the podcasting. Oh, and as a scout, as an actual academic. I think I'm right where I'm 13:04 supposed to be. I'm Also, I also believe that Legit was for you was for you. So I have the first show 13:12 ever put together I'll be sitting on TV like fuck Jesse pal First show I ever 13:20 put together a Lyskin chubby we both like skin and chubby and she went ahead of me and this guy gave me a speech how you never do that. You never put a 13:28 female or like if it was a male, Same thing, you never put a comic in front of you that's better. You don't land the show like that. I disagree, I've never, like I've never 13:37 abided with that. Like the good comedians, you put them in the beginning when nobody's there. I was raised under the belief that whatever is for me is supposed to be mine anyway. 13:45 So if me putting her in front of me and she gets the movie role or whatever I miss out on it's because it wasn't My fucking role anyway, I really believe that this rule and 13:53 it's like moving like that will keep you from feelings of like bitterness or whatever because number 1 what 14:01 I consider success might not be what you consider, like my cat from my, what I think is the top, top, top of success in my lane, right? That 14:09 might not be what you consider. And more often than not, especially in what we do, we'll do something and the crowd or the fans will say, oh, I think they should've, 14:17 you know what I mean? Whole time we feel so good about what we just did. I don't get a bit of anything from anybody up here, though. No, I don't think so either. Including 14:26 you, actually. I was teasing, but I think you're actually very comfortable. The thing I love about you is that you're very comfortable where you are, and you make decisions about where you want to be. I think it's dope. 14:34 But I do feel like in this lane, there's so many times where, especially being from the hood, you know so many basketball players, there's the best basketball player you ever 14:42 saw. This nigga never played for NBA. Best rapper you ever heard. This nigga never got a deal. So it's like, who's to say? They had that conversation, I think Kenny Smith had it 14:50 recently, about Ali Mo from Rucker. So he was saying how he even got him a tryout 14:58 for NBA team. Always telling him like, yo, you are a league player, you're ready for all sorts of... You niggas are supposed to be in the league. Y'all passes and want shit. And Ali 15:07 Mo was like, nah, he just didn't go to the tryout or anything. I just didn't want that. I know what my potential was. I know who I could have been in the league at a certain point, 15:15 but that's just not what I wanted. I think some people get to that point, it's like, yo, even if it's something that you might have envisioned at a certain point, you get to a point in your life where it's like, that's just not for me 15:23 no more. I think that's how I feel today about the music scene. Then you go check on homeboy, that was the best nigga at the park. You like 25 years later, 15:32 see what's up with him. Nigga selling car insurance door to door. You be wanting to tell him, nigga, yo, that nigga at your door. Nigga, dunk. 15:40 Dead nice. He hit you. From the, die to that department, nigga. Bro, don't let that little foe to fool you. I think we get 15:48 it so fucked up because of our own aspirations that we think everybody need that. Everybody don't, everybody don't, I know a lot of people with the greatest potential who just 15:56 don't need it. They don't care about being famous. Or wanting. Or wanting. Yeah, it's just like, it's not a thing. Some people like living their regular chill 16:04 life. Yeah. And some people are competitive. You just said 2 different things though. What do you mean? On the back end you said some people 16:12 like living their regular normal life, which I 100% agree with. But on the front end you said some people have no problem not living up to their potential 16:20 That's the part that would bother me. It's not about what I'm how my life is Sorry, I got their own party what people think their potential should be disagreeable 16:28 I think some I think people put something on other people that they don't even want for themselves. So that's what I meant to say. Got it, got it, got it. So to your other part about 16:37 some people just being comfortable living their regular normal lives, I think that's because they haven't seen anything else. That could be. And the second they see something, I 16:45 mean, live something else, like whatever, the second your circumstance change and you feel something else They depend on what you value. It makes you know, but that's that's why 16:53 it is. I think that's true I don't think that I don't think that negates what he's saying. I think that's true. That's why there's levels Everybody ain't meant to see 17:01 everything. Mm-hmm. I think that 2 things I think 1 people are so fearful 17:10 of trying to get to another level that they'll self-sabotage and tell themselves, I'm content with where I am. And I think it's bullshit. 17:18 I think that- Sometimes. Bro, I can speak to it being a fact. We had this conversation back over there. And I told Ice when Ice first came on this podcast, 17:27 watch how you change. I was very comfortable. I ain't gonna lie, that first class shit hit different. Like, you know what I'm saying? 17:35 Like, it's just certain things that- Little things. Yeah, like small things. But that shit is a bunch of shit. But you speaking on 1 side, I get that. I think there is a other side where there are people who don't 17:43 give a fuck about that. And they've actually experienced it, and it's not a point for them. It's something different. Did y'all ever see the documentary 6 feet from stardom? No, 17:52 you all absolutely should watch it I've seen that actually, it's about backup singers. It's a great title for a movie And 1 of the examples that give 18:00 is Lisa Fisher who is 1 of the greatest vocalists of her generation. Lisa Fisher is special and different. If you ever get to see her live, 18:09 whatever, and everybody said, because she was, you know, she was with the Van Dross's main backup singer. He would fly her in, all this shit, right? And everyone 18:18 always said, you should be, not backup singer, you should be a lead. And she's like, I don't want that life. She pushed and did it anyway, despite the fact that people, 18:26 because people wanted it for her. And she came out with How Can I Ease the Pain, number 1 hit, Smash? She could've done another album. She never did another 1. 18:34 Not because she was afraid to start it. She just didn't want that life. She didn't want what came with it. And she loved being a background singer. And I don't wanna assume that Eric, so there are people who 18:42 just don't want that. But she experienced both. And then you can make a decision, in my opinion, this is my opinion, once I 18:51 see both sides, I can say, yo, I prefer this over this. It's people that never have gotten to the other side and will say, yo, I don't want to do that. 18:59 How do you know you don't want to do it if you've never accomplished it. And then, again, let's take Lisa Fisher. Lisa Fisher might 19:07 have been in a position where she had accumulated enough comfortableness in her lifestyle that I was cool. 19:15 It's people we know that are struggling or starving or some of them are not even making ends meet and they'll say, 19:23 yo, I don't want to do that. I think that, I think that, but I don't know. You know what, I don't see enough, real quick, just there's some people who see enough of that thing over there to know I don't want that. Yeah, baby, I 19:31 don't want to attain, or I don't want to do it just to get that. But if we take the music aspect, right, because I know a lot of vocalists who are background singers today, 19:40 right, who were told I need to become something more, right? When a lot of us just in the business, period, music, are just happy to still just be 19:48 in the business and finding a way to make a career out of it. Which is something that a lot of people can't fucking do. When we talk about 19:56 shit parks, everybody, we don't have to be in this business. There's a bunch of motherfuckers waiting lined up to be a part of this shit who never get the opportunity. So 20:05 sometimes being the background singer, like I had a homegirl at Rest In Peace, my homegirl Nicole, amazing vocalist, went to school, vocal trained 20:13 everything. She ended up being background singer for Justin Timberlake, did that forever and loved it. And when people would try to get her to be like, I pushed it, she was like, no, like 20:21 I'm happy. I'm happy and this is, I still get to see the world, I still get to the stage, I might not hear the people screaming my name because at a certain point 20:29 I told myself That's what I needed, but I really didn't need that. I just wanted to be in the business. Right. I feel like what- Please. I feel like what Isha's 20:37 talking about is that fear part where there are people that before they even contemplate trying 20:46 something different or going further in their lane, they shut it down for whatever reason. And it doesn't come out, that's not what they say to us. They'll say stuff to us 20:54 like, oh, I don't see that for myself and I like this when the reality is, I'm too fat to do this or I'm too stupid to do this or I won't be well. Or 21:02 I just had this conversation, because we always make a joke about everybody who fully can rap, right? And then it's always those niggas that can rap, but they don't 21:10 want to. So it's like you can't force the guy to go to the studio or force to get him. And then he kind of dies with that whole, man that nigga was nasty. If he would have just, 21:18 in reality, when I look back on that now as an adult who tries to do things and I've had some success in entertainment a Lot of those niggas just was scared to 21:26 fail scared That's your next freestyle was won't hit instead of saying that a verbalizing or even knowing what 21:34 to do with that It just turned into a lot of focus or they didn't get in the street too much And that's why he don't go to the studio remember y'all. I think it just was afraid It's also work ethic to sometimes 21:43 comes into it So we just don't want to do the work that it takes to do that shit, it is a lot of fucking work. Niggas are sitting on a corner and put their life and their freedom at 21:51 risk instead of going to the studio, which to most people logically is a no-brainer. But a lot of times the people won't go to the studio because, 21:59 yo, fear of success is a thing. Not just that, you know, with that studio example, ain't no guarantee over here, at least 22:07 over here, I know I'm making something and I got mouths to feed. Some people just in position, they can't, they can't. Sometimes it comes to. Depending on that studio 22:16 example, it ain't fear of success. Fear of success is a couple of wrongs of the latter. True, true. In the studio example. Because you're 22:24 just going to go to the studio, you could come to a harsh realization about you and the music you make. That's true, too. It's not a given that you about 22:32 to come up there and come up with something to make us a jewel or something. Dreams and nightmares, you might have a nightmare. I agree, I think that fear of success is a little further 22:40 from... That was funny. For real, seriously. He's witty. I think that fear of success that Ish was saying is kind of further away from that, even though 22:48 that is a thing. But for sure, fear is something that I think people just, I think it's just a sneaky thing. Like you don't 22:57 realize it. Also, fear is such a big thing that Your people will love you so much and your people be so afraid to fail the day afraid for you to fail 23:05 Right, so it's almost like that story people whatever I don't know if it's really true when they say Jay-Z uncle told him he couldn't sell 1000000 records, right? That I don't think that's automatic Jay-Z 23:13 uncle's a hater Jay-Z's and stealing his fear No for you this little 23:21 boy I knew in this big city right I can't see it for you, therefore it wouldn't happen. He can't even see it for himself, so- Right, well that's what it is. That's why I can't see it for you. That's 23:29 what it is. And I don't want you to be hurt, And I don't want you to be hurt and I don't want you to try and feel what that feel like because I know what that feel like when I did my doo-wop group in the 70s and it didn't 23:38 work out. You know what I mean? If I take someone, Eric Robeson. Amazing, amazing vocalist, 23:47 great talent, right? Always performing, always recording. He's doing all the things to be successful. It might not hit in the way that we deem it to be like 23:55 hidden in mainstream, but he's doing all the work. And he's happy. And he's happy. I think that's the happy medium between, yo, I'm still going to work my 24:03 hardest to make sure that I'm seen and heard. I might not ever get to that point, and I have to be okay with that, but I'm still happy to be in the business the way that I can be in the business. And it's 24:11 also perspective, because there's a moment where Eric Roberson is making that, I mean, You're not going to be at the top of the charts for your whole career. And you have to be okay with doing what you 24:19 do in the way that you do it and finally enjoying it. But I mean, it's like being in the NBA. You may not be a starter, but you still do better than 99.9% of the world. 24:28 Still making 9000000 dollars a year to sit on a bench. And you're doing more than most of the world. And you said a word, that happy thing. Like I don't think, I guess 24:36 it depends on the person, but for me, that's a goal of mine to just be like happy. I go somebody I'm raised by a depressed mom I've had 24:44 issues with depression my whole life I would if I got say God right to create of all things come down and say, hey, would you take this and this, 24:52 you know, all the entertainment, fame and rich or whatever versus you in the two-bedroom apartment with this guy that wakes you up to pray in the morning, But y'all 25:00 happy, I would choose happiness every time. Like that matters to me. In fact, the best part about this is that I like it. That's the best part. 25:08 Because this motherfuckers right now, pulling up to a parking lot, listening to this spot, crying because they don't want to walk in that building. And that is like the end all be all for me, it's 25:17 like hell. I told niggas, and I had this conversation recently, someone was saying, yo, you need to get back in the studio but it's in the synapse, 25:25 right? And I was like, I don't really walk in there happy like I used to. I used to be excited to walk in there, motherfucker, Because I'm like, yo, what am I going to get on the other side 25:33 of it when I finish? I don't feel like that about creating music today, but I feel like that when it comes to podcasting. There's not a day where I don't walk in here and 25:41 I'm like, I'm ready to talk. Even if I'm a bad move, I like seeing the outcome of it after that. Shit, the talking can get you out the bad mood. Do you feel like- Lit that fire. 25:49 What'd you say? What'd you say? Lit that fire in him. Shut the fuck up. But no, I'm just saying, here if I'm doing my own shit and whatever 25:58 I like that feeling which motivates me to work What do you think? Caster or as a singer? No, I think, no, 26:07 I did think as an entertainer. I think I went my whole life feeling like the only way I could entertain is through singing. Now you found 26:15 another answer. That's a good way to think about it. That's it, so even when we talk about all the other words. And another word. What? What? Fuckin'. Fuckin'. 26:25 The nigga went his whole life singing and fucking. You should never do a porn. No, it's an interesting idea. I'm sorry. Please. No, no, please. No, I was just saying, 26:33 I've had a similar thought. You know what I mean? I never thought of podcasting as a talent that I had. I thought about these other things, and now I'm like, oh, this is a space where I can. 26:41 Multiple conversations. Yo, yo, yo, apart. Multiple conversations are happening. That's how we whisper. We keep trying to get a word and this nigga hogging the mic. He won't let Mona say nothing. 26:49 Just because he has a doctorate that's from an accredited program. Like who gives a fuck? Shout out to Harvest Christian. Nigga. I 26:57 see DC. What'd you say Mona? College. I wasn't saying anything. And that's the last time I ever go to bat for see 27:08 That's because he was smoking and yeah, no because they're being facetious in the whole joke I thought you wanted to ask him. Oh, well, I thought you 27:16 wanted to tell him why you thought he was lying? Whoa, I whispered that he meant he was lying as a gossip thing, nigga, that wasn't for the table. Oh, but why you think I'm 27:24 lying? All right, my bad, I'm trying to whisper on the spot. I was talking behind your back. No, but say it, but why you think I'll be lying? Because it's like, oh, I love broadcasts when you're singing, like stop, Kevin, 27:32 bro. I'll say this, I think you, I'll say this, because I have, I don't know if you're a singer, so you have a different experience than I do, probably more 27:40 so than me. I enjoy podcasts on a day to day more than I enjoy broadcasting. But there's something about, for me even just as a speaker, when I 27:49 have a room full of people captured, and you get a certain kind of emotion from them, that I can't match. You sing in person on stage. In person on 27:57 stage, yeah. And I've seen you sing in person. I watched the video footage of it. Like when you were in Chicago the last time. Performing, yeah, I mean. That's what I'm saying. 28:05 And because you're talking about entertaining, but there's something about when you got that crowd eating out of your hand that I don't think you can replicate. That's the problem. Because 28:13 that's what you see for him versus what he sees for you. No, no, no. He was saying there's no crap. I can enjoy, but I was very clear in saying me going into a studio recording 28:21 music. Fair, fair, fair. So I do get the same enjoyment being on stage and performing, but that's not something that you can kind of do when you're also not putting 28:29 out, I mean I could, but that's not something I promote. It requires the studio for this. It requires it. And you're not willing to pay that price. Yeah, like I'm happy in what I'm doing when it comes 28:37 to my career choice today because for a long time, all I thought I could ever do was sing. I love that for you, Emanie. You want a hug? 28:46 No, nigga, I'm good. Nigga, you want a hug? You want a hug, E-Mini? E-Mini, I'ma say this too. You found your call, you know what I mean? I thought I was only gonna be saying it. I found my call in a long time ago, 28:54 which was entertainment. I just was... You got another call. For phone rung again. E-Mini, do you 29:02 enjoy singing live and performing live? Because you grew up doing that. I love it. So what do you think would fill that void for you? Because of course, we podcast live too, but 29:10 it's nowhere near as much as you would as a singer. Where would you fill that void at, you think? Because I love the live audience shit like love it. I 29:18 don't think I need to feel I'm not I'm not feeling I don't have to It's not a void. It's what do you think your colonists and you too ish fatherhood Corners 29:28 and you can't we can't attack it. I've been it. Why you gotta Call it 29:36 work Is there professional I'm a professional podcast podcast I've been attacking him for 5 years. Yeah, he's been attacking him. That's why I ain't saying it. I make professional calling, but it doesn't work. Why wouldn't it attack him? Is there a professional calling? I meant like professionally, yeah. Yeah, podcasting. Podcasting. That's my professional calling. When did it hit you that was your calling? Because I know on day 1 you didn't think that. No, I 29:44 never thought it. I lived a fat fire. When did it hit you? It was like a year and 2 years in, a month in, as the show ends. I mean, truth is truth. They hate me. No, that's not true. 29:53 That's not true. I'm not giving them that. He didn't like podcasts that fire in your ass? No, I had a podcast before him. Oh, what was it called? Excuse me, David. Bounce Offs. 30:01 It didn't look like something to fire under. Nah, it was some, it was a great podcast. It was a great podcast, and funny enough, 2 of the people that are 30:09 in podcasts and they're doing pretty well, were people that I was doing a podcast with. Oh, so you lit the fire. So I had the foresight. He lit the fire. I had the foresight, I just didn't have the execution. Did 30:17 you say he lit your podcast fire? Did you have an audience? Joey. Yeah. Okay. Look at me at least. No, fuck him. 30:25 No, no, dead ass. Like even prior to sitting up here, Joe told me to start a podcast. And I got my home girl Beatrice, we started a podcast called, I Don't Do Podcasts 30:33 Cause I never liked them. Right. It just, it was all audio. I'm not a fan of cameras. So it was the uncomfortable part. Okay. 30:42 I played with your fucking shoelaces while our friend being vulnerable too, nigga. Just saying. And I remember that you telling us that also, I feel like Freeze, you come from that because 30:51 What you built on Twitter is nothing to scoff at. I know we play around with it a lot But that's like to build that shit like that and have a name for yourself to the point that 30:59 I mean you You fucking got signed to Death Row, you know what I mean? What? Like all that comes from the initial of Twitter. And that's not something 31:07 you could just like, oh it ain't shit. I know people that have built careers from Twitter. My first producer, that's where he started Twitter. Why didn't you like cameras? 31:16 Just wonderful, I don't like attention. That's really what it is. Got you. Like I be in the hood. I don't want recognition. I just want to be able to move around 31:24 and nobody knows it's me. Yo, you playing with my man, yo? Yo, she. Why you playing with my man, yo? You a nigger? Nah, don't laugh when my nigger say he ain't want to be 31:32 on camera, yo. I didn't, Burks, I would rather say I need to change myself. All right, yeah, I play with my nigger. I have a bad seat and I'm tired of it. I'm rolling with my niggas. I'm rolling with my 31:40 niggas. I didn't do nothing wrong. I sit next to the boss and he's tapping me and shit like that. I didn't say nothing. Sometimes when I sit up here quiet, y'all might 31:48 think I fell asleep. I be praying. Mama say mama- I gotta pray for all y'all. Mama say mama- What you think you're calling Mozilla? 31:58 You think you're living out your calling? Bricks. Cocaine, powder. Flipping the bridge teaching a 32:06 bitch how to take dick As 32:21 you yeah, so you a teacher? Do you see that as the... Why is we being so stupid? What? I'm 32:29 trying to extend conversation. We got to get him up. We got the laughs, guys. We got the laughs. We got the laughs. Yo. So, teacher, so do you see what you're doing 32:37 now as that, or do you see that as like the next step? I don't know if I'll ever even go down that route, but I 32:45 get the enjoyment from it. Gotcha, school and babies. I don't know if I'll ever go down that route. No, because I mean, to me, as an educator, I actually think I do more educational stuff 32:54 on cameras than I do in class I Anybody 33:17 in this room issues a natural born podcast is to argue with me Now you're right. It's just born for pocket. I talked to issue a phone covers 8 33:25 a.m. 8 p.m. We having a fucking podcast, he just don't know. Isha's the guy in the barbershop that started the conversation, says something else, switched the conversation, 33:33 that's who you are. He be going through mad topics like that when he call you? What makes a podcast, though? I feel like a podcaster. What's 33:42 the qualities that should make up a good- For me, yes, that's basically what it is, a glorified conversationalist, and it's somebody that, where it's not, you 33:50 just want to get out what you say or how you feel. A person that's a natural born podcaster, they'll think of what other people are saying and just introduce that. You figure me, you having a 33:58 back and forth. And we feel kind of the same about most things. It's a boring conversation. A natural podcaster will throw in that devil's average shit. 34:08 It's just absolutely contrarian. Just a little bit. But a contrarian- See, I think he actually believes what he says. He does believe it though. That's why I said just a little bit. He's a contrarian and 34:16 actually believes that shit. I think all of us, I think all of us have had moments where we've had to take the opposing side 34:24 just to keep conversation going along, but I do understand. But that's not a contrarian. She was complimenting Ish. No, I was about to give the compliment to Ish. 34:33 Yo, all of us really be doing it. Ish and Nash were more of podcasters. I do think certain people have that quality sometimes. You don't pod better than Ish, 34:41 yo. And you are a good podder, but I don't know. If I had to pick between you 2, I don't know if that's a good joke, because you're both a good podder. Because I used to always tell you that I thought that you 34:49 Were a good Potter and I missed that about not doing these because I can't with you You're a good Potter. He mean he means coming on my podcast. Don't call me white 34:57 girl show over at DCMWG.com That's a fact nice That was smooth. Thank you. It was. It's a good plug. 35:06 Good plug. Write that down. Nah, I- Who you be teaching? The youth, nigga. It's a bunch of people watching. Nigga, you, nigga. Joe, Joe, Joe. 35:14 You, nigga. We all teach you. Oh, shit. His young boy. Joe, Joe, Joe. His little nigga. Taught you everything you needed. You 35:26 know, nigga. I can see in another world, I see Isha in the world of politics. I can see it too. Totally like a dirty mayor. 35:35 Like a mayor taking all that money, underhand it. Like a man on power. Like Lorenzo power. Yes, like Lorenzo taking all the power. I was thinking 35:43 more like the dude on Nemesis when everybody abandoned the cop. He's like, who's gonna come with me? The niggas said, I'll come. He's like, no, 35:51 you can't, you don't have nobody else. I was thinking about my wife. I started watching that show. I ain't done with Nemesis. I'm finished watching it. I finished it. It's too stupid 35:59 for me to believe it. My only question with Courtney Kent movies or shows is why is everyone so fresh? Like 36:08 the cops are wearing like $5, 000 worth of gear Salary must be crazy. Yeah, I don't know what's going on in LA $5, 000 leather Gucci 36:16 jacket, no bullshit Not my cup of tea That nigga be having a fear of God shit It's horrible It's the freshest cop 36:24 I will The only thing outside of documentary I'll do is a documentary series. Netflix has 1 called, like, My Crazy Ex. And it was out for years, and they finally did a 36:32 season 2? Chef's Kiss. Y'all never watched it? Oh, it was good. I watched the first 1. Please. Did you see the Deadpool killer on there? See? The gorgeous 1? 36:40 0, God. That good looking 1? He'll bust your ass, but he'll bust your ass. You know what I mean? Look at her in her eyes. You 36:49 didn't see the Deadpool? Did you see the Deadpool? Because he's handsome, guys. Joe, you didn't see the handsome 1 from Florida? Fuck off. I 36:57 can't even have a talk. He can't, he cannot help but talk. God, wait a minute, man, it's my question, but we kept talking, all right, fuck it. I want to see Obsession. Oh, 37:05 I want to see that shit. It's good? I watched that shit. I liked it. You did? I liked it a lot, yes. That shit was dumb as hell, you know? That shit was terrible, you know? I liked it. 37:13 Okay, that's cool. I liked it. I liked it. What'd you like about it, E.R.O.? That's the shit when the dude did the wish or something. Yeah. Yeah I think for a horror film 37:21 you would like it though That's you, too That's you Yes, 37:29 I mean they go uber to the Poconos By itself yes, but that was That was for birthday. 37:37 That wasn't for. So. That was like a retreat. Yeah, you can't listen. He really, you took a Uber to Poconos, bro? Yes. Boy, that 37:45 was a hot caboo. How much was that? I think 120. I thought it was upstate New York. That must be the fake nose. I got out there seeing 1 37:53 of his friends down the back just laying joint. That's not what happened. I'm lying. The nigga had to set 38:01 it on 1 of his good friends. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. Over a joint. No, I didn't. Sometimes you gotta lay that on the floor. Don't listen to this nigga. I don't play with my pussy. 38:10 No, I didn't. I already know how we get down with this nigga. And if I did, trust me, you know I would've said that. Boy, your knuckles will still be scarred up. I know how you get down. Beat on 38:18 niggas for less. With the right hand, be true. With the right hand knuckles. He's all right. With the right hand knuckles I love that I'm playing my strength not 38:27 me I sent you I sent you that's cool anyways like I said obsession was dope good good movie I liked it. Who you go to movies with? 38:35 By myself. Why you got? I like going by myself. Oh boy. The movies by yourself. About to start. I'm gonna see it coming. 38:43 No, no, no, no. And I have to get to know myself. No, no, no, no, no. I don't want nobody disturbing me. I don't want you asking no questions I don't want me to have to do this whole oldest order this at no 38:51 I'm here to watch a movie shut the fuck up. Leave me alone damn Why you couldn't go with me to the summer Walker concert without making a phone call without making a little facetime 39:00 to somebody special in your life. Niggas just threw you out there. You took him with you to St. Walker? Imani came with me. Me 39:08 and Imani go to all R&B shows. You don't take me nowhere though. Do you like R&B? Not really, but I would go to a show. I 39:16 like St. Walker. Yeah, he don't invite me and then he said I can't even sit in this little box to go see Hall. No, no, no, no, don't do that because I'll invite you now. Invite 39:24 me. I'll invite you now. But before, Look at 39:32 Joe. Joe was. Oh, he was so smart. Joe was. Yo, Joe come on. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Joe hate it. The Joe I remember used to go crazy. 39:41 Look at that. That is so mean. Joe run around the bar place. Yo, let him say what Joe's saying. He mean that shit. That's fucked up. You ain't let me go with you as a head little 39:49 fooper. Well, what are you wearing? Oh my God. This cool. I could dress, nigga. I could make something. Oh, man. Yo, 39:57 anyways, I didn't have the I didn't have to get permission or anything. I just was letting somebody know because they live in the area. So I was like, you know. 40:05 Because they live in the area. Since I'll be over there after the joint, maybe I'll stop by and say hello. Okay. That's all I did. Okay. 40:14 Did you enjoy the show? I did. I enjoyed the stage. I enjoyed the improvement of the show Still I still think 40:22 she has a ways to go work some work to do she got some work to do But it's an it's a step up. You see it before yeah, it's a step up for sure 40:30 big improvement You niggas do know it was her mental health that was stopping her from being a better performer. I don't believe that. Okay, it's bullshit. I 40:38 don't believe that. I think some people are just really natural performers. I don't think she's a natural performer. I think she's a dope artist, 40:47 dope music. Sometimes that doesn't always translate to the stage. So I think she got with somebody who can help her translate that to the stage. So over time that'll 40:55 start to get better. But it was definitely a step up from last time I saw her. I like, I appreciate any artist that won't 41:03 just settle with the, y'all gonna come out and sing my shit anyway. So put the effort, stage show. The stage design was dope. The concept was 41:11 dope. Act 1, act 2, act 3. The whole wedding theme, She had the whole wedding table shit set up, came to the crowd, performed there. That takes effort, 41:20 especially if you're not someone that's known for doing all that. I like it. What's up? I can't think of what he taught me. 41:29 What? He tried to think of what it's doing on... I know he taught me something. You don't think Ish taught you nothing. All these years you know 41:37 Ish. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm asking you. I 100% believe Ish taught me stuff. You just don't know what? I'm trying to think of what they are. You can't think of 1 41:45 thing. I mean I already came up with 1 thing. What? Ish taught me, but this was a long time, it was 41:53 not like a recent teaching of his. So he might've changed his beliefs. But a long time ago, he taught me that... Nigga, 42:03 you're serious, I mean. Ish, you're a nigga. I cannot be serious ever, yo. Go ahead. Ever. It's 42:12 taught me to Never buy properties with my girl Doing 42:20 that boy Which is wipe them shit we love lesson teacher 42:30 K.R.S. We don't want no more. We don't want no more. K.R.S. My nigga K.R.S. Krish. Krish. Krish. What 42:38 else? Let me think of some more stuff he's taught me, man. He taught you some shit. Let me see. Can't teach the niggas. Some niggas can't 42:46 be taught. Some niggas just not receptive to the lessons. Hard-heated ass niggas. They just be competing with you. 43:00 Oh man. All right. All right. Ah, that's a good joint, yes. Oh man. 43:08 I'm telling you, y'all show would go. Who y'all? Y'all show would go. Another round of Joe's first ish. Let me make my statement, yo. Y'all show the odd couple, y'all 43:16 niggas in a crib for a month together. Just don't, just y'all 2. Niggas 72 hours. Yes sir, I'm with you. Bangers, best 43:24 of. Y'all would have Agent Brona and Homeboy B. And y'all gotta wear the same outfit too, like they do. Oh that's just, Streaming y'all. Y'all just kill each other. Oh that's it. Nigga what? 43:32 No they both gotta wear that's that ish. I'm about to start my streamer show It's can't be on it. You got some streaming. Yeah Yeah, you're going over there 43:41 to the to T To T. I want to say the site Are you going to a site or you gonna do directly? In 43:49 August I'm gonna announce it at the boys club. I can't just it's not all willy-nilly when I move around to these 43:57 places. You gotta make an announcement. It's a big deal right it's not just like Alright that's bad. That's peace. It can't be on my show. Why not? 44:06 Why? It's not a show about teaching. What's the show about? You gotta have guests. You gotta have guests on your show. Yo, 44:14 tune in when I make it to the boys' club, man. All you gotta do is tune in, you got the easiest job. That's peace. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. All you gotta do is tune in, you got the easiest job. That's peace. Oh, shit. All you 44:22 gotta do is tune in, you got the easiest job. You got the easy part. That's the smooth shit, I might as well start saying that. Just tune in. We gonna see. We gonna see. 44:31 I tell you 1 thing. You know who was never meant to be an NBA official? You guessed it, Joe 44:39 Budden. 1 of my favorite parts of all these playoffs is I am all For 44:47 at least 300 and what the challenge is gonna come back God be 44:56 mad I'd be trying to sound like what? That's his first day to the challenge out. Oh, no way they wasted 45:04 that don't own both Yeah, absolutely right cat found them all offensive, Nick lose the time out. The 45:12 fuck? Anywho, What else is going on? All right, so we got a teacher. What you said you was 45:20 again? Entertainer. It's called an entertainer. Entertainer. What you're calling him? A father. Oh, he's a podcasting after father. He said a dad. Yeah, of course. 45:29 I know. What's yours, Mark? No, Mark's done it on all of us. I said teacher. And then we ain't. No, we never got to Mark. We got 45:37 2 teachers? Oh shit, I'm not a teacher. Mark is definitely a teacher. I mean, he's a teacher. You taught, yes sir. He's a teacher. But as I say, it's not just like classroom shit I think fuck you drive thing. They teachers taught 45:45 that's what I'm saying teachers teach He didn't pay attention to the teacher. No, 45:54 I was an entrepreneur. Huh? I was an entrepreneur, I didn't pay attention to him. You wasn't. I didn't pay attention to all that. You wasn't. I had talent from yay high. I wasn't waiting on a growth 46:02 spurt. Oh my God. I mean. This nigga. Hey, what was y'all saying? I 46:10 thought y'all were saying something. No, I was waiting for Mona's calling. For sure it would be this, what I'm doing there like comedy. Like, doing stand-up, 46:18 Like if I had a penis it would be hard the whole time. That's how exciting I am. Like nipples hard. It feels like I'm on like, you ever play, you ever 46:26 pop an EP? Remember them blue dolphin days? Remember them? Yes, that's how it feels. It's like chills all over. What'd you say? Playboy bunnies. 46:35 Double stacks. My boys! Back when they used to sack them bitches, cause you know now it ain't nothing but meth. Don't fuck with them bitches now. They ain't just saying 46:43 he feels we was taking that serious. Yes they are, but. No, I think it's all meth. That shit was still fun outside. Oh 46:51 shit. It's a meth? We were taking MDMA or whatever ecstasy those motherfuckers on that but not a good molly good Molly That's 47:02 1 That's 1 That was a good Molly. 47:11 They would go to Starbucks. Anyway. Man, good times. Good times. No, but it literally chills all over my body the 47:19 whole time I'm up there like it's a it's a very strange thing and the very first time I did it That's exactly how it felt like no concept of time or nothing 47:27 It was just like oh and then I remember we know slash an eye on you like damn the first time no cuz this girl passed out. That's what got 47:35 me off the stage. I didn't even know how to get myself off the stage. I had never done it. And I didn't write any jokes or anything, so I didn't know what I was doing. You freestyled the first set? I freestyled every 47:43 set. I don't know how to write. When I write it, it sound corny, so I just go up top of my head. Like now I'm at the point where I can run back the same joint. So it's 47:51 like, I know I got my own flow. OK, this in the beginning, this in the end, this towards middle. But that should be off the top of my head. I can, like now I'm at the point where I can run back the same drawing, so it's like I know I got my own flow, okay, this in the beginning, this in the end, this towards the middle, but that should be off the top of my head. No bullshit. Would you work with a writer? Huh? If you 47:59 had to do a stand-up and you needed to go ahead and get with somebody to help you write a set. Would you do that or you want to do it all on your own? As of right now, I can't make 48:08 my prior 1 and let me. I would like to get to the point where I can sit with a seasoned comedian that's known for writing and sitting right with him. But I've 48:16 also, I know who write for who and I look at them like yeah, bitch You'll never touch me bitch I wrote it but no no no everything 48:24 comes from me But what if they you didn't use them to write your material now that's different for them to organize it That's a formula thing that he means about writing and to 48:32 be honest it's not no comedians that y'all like and love that are not getting written for. That's just the name of the game. It's a game. My pride, it fucks with me 48:40 about it. And it's like, I know that it can't do anything but help, but like it would have to start with that. Them sequencing it. Producing it. Yeah 48:48 because my first time doing TV they feed in the jokes in my ear and it's going right over my head and they come out and they say hey Mona why aren't you and I was like oh you I thought 48:56 you were trying to make me laugh. I didn't know I was supposed to repeat that. Like bitch why would I say what you just said that's crazy like I think it's a querious thing too, like I cannot 49:04 do what you say or wear what you wear, I just cannot do that. So how can you tell me how to crack a joke when this shit really my shit? You know what I mean? I don't know how 49:12 to explain it. When are you in Jersey next? Like performing. Or New York. Word. Or Philly shit. I'll travel. Are you performing over here for 49:20 real anytime soon? Hell no. I perform over here all the time right in here you let us sit down shut the fuck up and get that part you heard 49:28 me that's a fact nah real shit I did my first in Hoboken that was an amazing show Then I did a show in Atlantic City I 49:36 would rather eat a shit sandwich than do another show in Atlantic City Really? What a mistake that was Bop, bop, bop 49:45 What was wrong with AC? Hoboken was on. It was just the vibe was weird. And then most of the crowd said that. Like, that's just how we are out here. It was weird. It was 49:53 like a Fandow meets... I don't know. It was very... That's probably 1 of the weirdest shows I've ever... Probably 1 of the worst shows I've ever had was the show I just sang in Lening City. 50:01 No bullshit. Really quick before y'all leave, the Hoboken portion of this, Ainsworth is back. What do you mean, back? What's that? 50:10 It never went on. It's good. Where is that? Well that whole book Let's whole book and they moved to fucking the move that Jersey 50:19 sitting somewhere else No, it was not it's back R&B Sundays at Ainsworth is back in Hoboken. Oh, 50:27 it's like a land? Is it like Black Lives Matter? It was a thing. It was a, Sunday in Hoboken is close to damn near Sunday 50:38 in Houston. Mmm. Oh man. Nice. What you saying? So all of the 50:46 joints that live in Hoboken, just they'll go to the strip and just bar hop, but Ainsworth is where they specifically went 50:55 and just chilled for the day. You're watching the games in there, you have these homegirls in there, it's a happy hour, there's school bars. Survived. Yeah, when they left 51:03 Hoboken, Hoboken was very sad. Hoboken was very sad. Sidebar, Hoboken is such, for a person that had never been there, loved 51:11 the energy of it. The energy, the crowd, the people. Hoboken is shit. Like the black people, it was literally a room full of really nice, well spoken, beautiful 51:20 black people. I like Obokan. Obokan is heat. I just don't like how they fucking cribs be set up out there. You know what I mean? Shit, some of them shit is fly. I'm 51:28 telling you, it got that Brooklyn brownstone feel to it. Yeah, shit, most of it is fly. But it's all like narrow brownstone. Yeah, that's what we do. You know how it's like? 51:36 No parking. No parking. That's the part I hate. See, bro. It's a mess. It's the worst. How's your house? Well, a couple months ago you were in a house process, 51:44 like building, scouting, all that kind of shit. Where you at with it now? Still, and I'm gonna be in this process for It's long, I 51:52 told you. Years. Yeah, you told him. So now I switched off this shit that I was looking at. I told you something. This lady was taking so long. He told 52:00 you something, nigga. He told me man stuff. I don't deny it. Well, all you listed was. He just don't remember the stuff. You just can't list it. He just reminded you of something that he told you because you forgot everything. Why 52:09 did he hit what was on his list? What did you say he told me? That's cut. That's cool. What did you just say he said he told you that? Houses, real estate. Anything you know about a house, okay? Including 52:17 the breaker. You learned that from me, nigga. When the fuses go out and you go ahead and hit that joint for Saturday, he calls it. I asked this nigga 52:25 to come glue my shower seal back on, he wouldn't do it. He's got a fucking personal contractor. Is that the super? 52:34 You want him to do what? To caulk his bathroom. The front seal between my shower door, the thing is coming out. This 52:42 nigga is an elitist. You want him to re-caulk your shower door? It's disrespectful. It's not caulk. You have to fix the seal. Oh, the seal. You want 52:50 him to reseal your shower door? Yeah, it should take 3 minutes. Joe, who the fuck are you to tell people to... You can do 52:58 that. I don't understand these niggas for nothing. They always think I'm trying to, like, humiliate somebody. Maybe because you're always trying to humiliate people. That might be the reason. It's a solid reason. 53:06 How can I humiliate you? Could you imagine a nigga leaving his crib to come to your crib to just you show you see when you shower do it? No, I couldn't imagine that however 53:16 him leaving his house to do it, no it's not that big of a deal. But if you know somebody who's a contractor and there's something wrong in your 53:24 house, I don't see why that's a big deal. You don't need a contractor. You need a handyman. You need a super. You need a landlord. 53:33 Not a super. That's nothing. You need Bookman. Yeah, right. Buffalo butt. Joe, you can do that. 53:41 I don't look at it like that. You're not doing that shit. Joe, you better not call nothing. Yeah, I don't do niggas. It's great. You know damn well you can't do that type of stuff. You're 53:49 probably right. Everybody handy. What were we talking about before I started talking? We were naming things an issue. No, your 53:58 house. Oh, so this lady was giving me the run around with the land. Not really her. Like I said, 54:06 it took too long with the engineering. And the engineering didn't come back the way I like so I thought left that because you wasted my time now, and 54:14 I went to try to look for New land okay, so you don't have this do you don't have the place the location no no no 54:22 oh, there's alpine Okay, I'm not leaving out fine. Okay, but what you should try to do because a lot of times people do it. Teach. No, I'm not trying to be funny. My 54:30 real toe homies toe me. You good? Anyway. What about your crib in South Carolina? You got everything going on after? You get 54:38 South Carolina good? That's fucked up. I'm joking. Word! It's crazy. 54:46 You couldn't just listen, you got shit on it first. I should know he know come on. Tell me now Oh When you a lot of times they'd be selling land and plans together 54:55 so the engineering piece is already done That's when they add that's when they add they go crack I mean it but but you don't got a higher to engineer. I can go pay 55:03 a mill right now and Give me all that. Yeah. Yeah Is there just no house you would just buy as is? I mean, it makes changes 55:11 too, but I mean, like, there's no. Honestly, Mark, That seems like it would make sense. But New Jersey is fucked up. New Jersey 55:19 crazy. What they are asking for in the market, once you go see it, I'm looking at houses, 5000006 55:28 million, 7000008 million. You start looking at enough shit and you be like, yo, the shit I like for real is at about $15, $14, $15 million. Yeah, that's insane. 55:37 Especially in the neighborhood you want to live this township in city So if you had a money you could go buy a 4000000 dollar piece of land and build a 5 minute I'm 55:46 even a fireman build a 4000000 dollar house on it. And build a 4000000 dollar house. Now you on it for 8, it's worth 13, 14, you are 5000000 in equity. Let me see. 55:54 See what happened was, I found, let me try, long story less long. On Zillow, I saw a house in Tentafly, 56:02 when I wasn't looking for a house. Shorty just built her shit up. And it was super fly and modern. It caught my eye. They wanted 56:11 $7 million. It went fast. Then I saw another house in Alpine that was also super modern. 56:19 I'm looking for a modern... Glass windows house. Yeah. I saw another house in Alpine, super modern, with $16 million. 56:27 Come to find out, the guy who built this house... The TanaFly house and other house. ...Built that house. Got it. So I went 56:35 to him. Yeah. I went to go look at the 16 million dollar house, which turned into 18.5 now because the house recently sold across 56:44 the street for whatever it sold for. So I go to him and I tell him my plan and what I want to do and I'm trying to get some information and he's listening to me and he's 56:52 like, you know what? Tomorrow I want to bring you to another house that I built for some super rich dude, but 57:00 I think it's kind of along the lines of what it sounds like you're looking for. And he took me, I met with him the next day, and when 57:08 I tell you that this dude's house, like, you could see the difference in somebody that designed 57:17 their house for them. It was a 1 level house with a basement. He was a health nut. So he had a 57:25 full spa downstairs. Whatever extra bedrooms was downstairs. He had a full kitchen downstairs, but he wasn't going to be no walking up the steps. He added the 57:33 hyperbolic water and things because he did a whole bunch of shit, but it was custom to his liking. Whatever slabs he had left over from 57:42 the kitchen shit, he put it in the laundry room, backslash. This nigga just went crazy in this house with this kitchen. Once you see 57:50 that and then go back to seeing what these other people are, is out there, it's a mess. You can't. And I'm a creative. Like I have 57:58 a vision. So what happens when you- So let me try to do it. And like Is said, you spend 4000000 on the land, 58:06 you spend 4 and 5 on the house, the shit turns up ready to go for fucking 13, 14. Why would you not try that? And, that makes 58:14 a lot of sense. What happens with the developers when they building houses? You're not building houses for individuals, unless you hired to build a house for an individual. 58:22 So you can't be too specific in what you want. You kind of got to be gray beige because Parks might like this, 58:32 E might not like this, so you don't know who your buyer is going to be, you got to kind of keep that shit in the middle of the road. You got to be at a 7 and everything. 58:41 You going to give them closets, you going to give them size, you going to give them space, but you not going to be specific. You're not going to have the fucking, the 58:49 $200 square foot granite that got the blue specks in it with the gold leaf because everybody not going to like it. You know what I'm saying? So you got to kind of keep it 58:57 real, real, real neutral because you don't know who your buyer's going to be. So when you get in a house specifically built for your specs, like I 59:05 know my girl going want this closet, that closet. You know what I mean? I want these cabinets. Somebody else might think them cabinets are horrible, but 59:13 it ain't for them. It's what bothers me about seeing these houses now, right? I go to the house, I hate how 59:22 sectioned off everything is. Hey, to the right is the dining room. It used to be worse. Here's the formal dining room, here's the den, here's the library, 59:30 here's the, No, I want open space. So they trying to be more open? No, they trying to be more open now? I want damn near a house built for fucking hosting. 59:38 Like I want an ill prep kitchen. I want an ill prep kitchen. I want an ill kitchen and move a secret door. And that's the ill. My kitchen ain't to be cooked 59:46 in. Right, you need a Butler's kitchen or a prep kitchen. Yeah, I just want shit. I want a bigger closet than these people make for whoever they building these houses for. All 59:54 of these houses. In most of the houses I'm going in, the his and hers closet, hers is the big ass crazy 1:00:03 closet. They give you some little tiny ass. And I'm like. And those men don't have as much clothes as we do. Man. Yeah. They don't. Well, can't you get a joint 1:00:11 and like, I'll alter it. To my real alter it. Yeah, you can trick it out. But even in that. Especially if you're gonna invest millions. 1:00:20 I just paid all this. I just paid 9000000 dollars for a house and I'm gonna make another 1000000 to get it the way I want and did it. That's tough. Yo, they can't 1:00:28 find these hardwood floors no more, So when I move this wall, you know what I'm saying? It just becomes a world. But Josie, when it was charging me, the other 1:00:36 place I was looking at was charging me like 4 and a half for maybe an acre and a half. Right? 1:00:45 That's good too. It was great. That's not bad. And it was 1 of the only plots at that price point. 4 million nowadays up there. 1:00:53 Get your eyes 3 quarters of an acre, half an acre. But now what I saw, I'm buying a house on 1:01:02 2 acres, and I'm going to just knock the house down. You can do that. That makes a lot of sense. It's a pain in the ass, though. If you have the money, it always makes sense 1:01:10 to do it this way. I thought God took care of me again by getting me more land at a cheaper price. The house price is cheaper. Yeah, on 2 1:01:18 acres. I talked to you off camera, but that could be the plan. Teach him. No, all jokes aside, it's the- No, this area, I would need all the teaching. 1:01:26 1 of my mom's friends told me if I knock down the house, to keep a part of it up. So it's just renovation, it's not new built. So 1:01:34 you have old codes and all that shit you don't have to- But Joe, you got a nice place now. So when you move into the house, you're going to sublet- 1:01:44 All right, see where this is going. Please, huh? Please. Shillings. And I can read his brain. 1:01:53 A little shout to Sam. I just started counting the bitches coming in and out They gonna take section 8 You get section 8? 1:02:01 No I wish I did. You asked me if he'd get section 8. I was about to hate. Nigga, I wish I did. I was about to, who wouldn't take section 1:02:09 8 right there? Cause he's from the internet on camera. That ain't, hey, yo, I'll kill you. I wish I did. What the fuck? Is that Trimona for real? Yeah. I don't know what he's paying him, so maybe... Oh, you're not 1:02:17 supposed to let people know. Yeah, he's not supposed to. Yeah. He don't have no income. He ain't got no income. I don't get paid here. Yeah, he do volunteer work. 1:02:26 This shit volunteer. He tracks. Nah, I wish I had sex. Oh shit. You heard her? What'd she say? If they find that OnlyFans you 1:02:34 done. I ain't got no OnlyFans. Yo, his shit. Not his name. Yo dog, he don't make no money from that. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's a chump, 1:02:42 right? You gotta drop that bitch down by 85%. Yo, When you 3 hours late, it ain't no more lunch break Damn 1:03:07 it no niggas still ain't a biscuit. No, that's some hood shit You ain't a red ass crew. You ain't already, girl. That nigga over there with the biscuit. God damn it. I didn't even know niggas still ate a biscuit no more. That's some hood shit right there. You see what she's drinking? The honey. She ate the jelly pack 1:03:15 and then bit the biscuit. I do, but shit. Joe, I've never seen a house that's going to be the summer barbecue spot. Sound like it's not, because there ain't going to be no house in town. No, 1:03:23 that shit is not happening. No, that shit is not happening. No, no, no. We're not doing Juneteenth at my house, just because it's too close. But we're going to do maybe, I'm thinking about Labor Day. But 1:03:31 why don't we do like a collective barbecue? Like we invite all our people. I'll host. I don't have no people. Yeah. 1:03:40 You're all my people. My girl is my people. I was thinking about doing something on 4th of July. It's a Saturday. Oh, that's nice. I forgot about the 4th of July. Shit. 1:03:48 So we used to get drunk and he'd be like, I'll be Frederick Douglass over here. He'll be talking about me. Yo, you'll be Frederick Douglass. Yeah. 4th of July. If Burks do 4th of July, that's the move. Come on, 1:03:56 my way to freedom. Time is going by too fast. Yeah, it's going by too fast. They sped it up. Yeah, I was going to do 4. It takes so much to plan and invest in that. That's when 1:04:04 like Labor Day, I can see that and do it. Fourth of July is right around the corner. Damn sure it is. Are you resurrecting the pool parties when it's? Hell. 1:04:14 I always wanted to go to 1. You'll never see another pool party for me. Today? You can't do that. There would never, ever, ever be 1:04:22 another pool party today. Now, when my house get done, we want to do like a friends and family time. It'll be a 1:04:30 very different vibe. That's not what I'm talking about. Very different vibe. That's not what I'm talking about. It'll be a very different vibe. No, you can't do that. I heard about them pool boys. You can't do that other shit no more, bro. It's over for that. 1:04:38 It's going to jail. When y'all take trips, like family trips, like you and the whole family, you and Shadé. This 1:04:46 nigga. You going sublet for the weekend? Air BnB it motherfucker. This nigga is crazy son. You need a house sitter is what he asking. 1:04:55 You hold it down. You know niggas will come to make sure dog is walked and shit. Feed the dog. Yeah. I ain't got a dog. You going to have 1 then? 1:05:03 No he said you going to have 1 then. Staten Island. I keep telling her it's going to hurt but you're going to have to give that little dog away to your mother man We 1:05:13 gotta have we having those talks, yeah, I know it's uncomfortable but Must be done Well, you tell her the dog can't come The dog is 1:05:21 coming. The dog is coming, though. You lost. You lost. You can't tell somebody they can't bring their dog. You lost. You lost. Just tell them they can't bring their kids. It's part of 1:05:29 the family, man. Dog is like a child. Carry the 1. You can hear it right there. That's crazy. They will just turn it. Our house. Our house. If 1:05:42 you say my house. Let's carry the 1 My house get you shot It's y'all 1:05:50 dog now too, yep Works when they're good when I was like, that was my line around 23. You get the fuck 1:05:58 out, this is my shit. But boy, you can't tell you can't put the toothpaste back in the bottle. No, they remember that shit for the rest of the relationship. For life. Because 1:06:06 why the fuck would you say that? And look at you mad different. Facts. Because why would you say that to someone I ain't? Well, I was immature. I was 20 something. All right, don't tell me get 1:06:14 out your house, nigga. I was saying that to a bitch and we had roommates. That's how sick I was. I was saying that to a bitch and we had roommates. That's how sick I was. I 1:06:25 was saying that to a bitch who was contributing in the rent. I needed that for 50. That's crazy. It's a couple things that a man can say to you that 1:06:33 you'll never forget and get out as 1. You'll never forget the nigga that put you on the Spirit Boys card, you'll never forget it. It's just a bad feeling and most of the time, y'all take 1 1:06:41 for the team and when we go and do shit, y'all leave. Y'all will exit your own card sometimes. The card we could get over, cause I'ma pull back up on you, I'ma drive slow, come on 1:06:49 yo. Come on, get cut. No, I ain't getting it. Joe Toxin for real. Yo, you playing around, we on the highway, girl. Get your ass in this car. That shit happened 1:06:57 before that shit's scary You pulled over? Yeah, I got so many Palm Springs she jumped out. No, nigga, fuck you. Yo. 1:07:06 She jumped out the car. She came back and got you. You tried to do some little shit. Oh, shit. Me? Yeah, I know. I was just asking. Yes, you, nigga. That wasn't very teacherly. 1:07:14 Exactly. No, I thought he said you only knew sex. No. I was driving, and she jumped out of the car. Coming from Palm Springs, got to 1:07:22 a big motherfucking argument, and she literally jumped out the car. She jumped out her own car. No, it's mine She must have been Bit bit Mark 1:07:54 talking over you again. Yeah, always Yo, 1:08:05 you know the funny part Look at me, Imane. Ignore them, Imanes. Yo, you know what's the funny part? That you have beat the fuck out these niggas. No, no, aside from that. Aside from that, man. All of you sick, corny niggas have done the same shit I've done, but y'all like to make it seem like y'all haven't. Not you. I don't do 1:08:18 that. I don't know what you're talking about You 1:08:28 niggas none of you wait wait We talking about what we want what we want sit back with me He 1:08:38 asked you a question over here y'all might we type in a show? Oh please, fuck off, doctor. Y'all make the joke of 1:08:47 E being able to either mooch or live off of some shit with a woman, right? Mhmm. Mooch is a strong word. Mooch is 1:08:55 strong. That's what in the plot. Damn right. Every single 1 of you niggas have done that shit. I've never done that. You're lying. On my mama, oh that don't mean that. On my dad. You bugger 1:09:03 E. On my kids, Nothing. I've never done that. I've never done it as a joke. Yo, let me tell you something. Yo, dog, I've lived with my girl. I've done it, T.D. Yo, what do you mean by mooch? I live 1:09:11 with my girl and I've lost my job while living with my girl, and so I leaned on my girl and lived off of her. That's not mooch. I was unemployed. I've never mooched 1:09:19 off or lived off of no girl. I think you're on an island like this. Listen, let's really get into it. First define mooch. What is mooch? You fucking with them for 1:09:28 benefits. Fucking with a girl for benefits for benefits. Oh, I've never done that. Never. And that's something I've done with a specific woman 1:09:36 in my 20s, late 20s. 1 time. Wait. What if you just fuck with a girl who happens to be more upper than you, and you drive her car, and that's not it? That's 1:09:44 different. That's different. If she's up, she's up. She can't do nothing about that. Wait. You keep doing the face. You say farts. No, hold on. Pause, everybody. Because he's always, 1:09:53 excuse me, fellas. We always say these stupid-ass debates. And then it's always like, they lean on words. OK, we start with mooch. So the whole 1:10:01 thing is, you're always trying to act like he's the mooch or he's the jiggalo, he's the 1 that- Leech, right? He used that yellow dick. Yeah. He tried to act like he used that 1:10:09 yellow dick to get where he's got to go. And he said it's not- is it yellow or pink? What's up? He said that. Yo, you kid. Emani has said this. He used that 1:10:17 brown dick. Send her to the class. OK, so now, what he proposed was that all you niggas is bummed. 1:10:26 I mean, all you niggas had mooched before. So let's go over in the room. Joey already admitted he mooched as a teenager. My 1:10:34 question to you was late teen or teen teen? Like 19 or 15? All of it. Every teen. In my early teens, well actually, 1:10:42 because in my late teens, I'm thinking about Trey's mom. So I guess that don't, but part of the attraction with her was 1:10:50 she's got her own crib, she's got a car, she cooking, she's shuffling shit up, she got money, she's like, that was part of it. I was fresh out of rehab. So I 1:10:58 looked at it like that, but it didn't turn into that. Like we lived together, we had a kid. Yeah, I've done a situation similar where 1:11:06 I dated an older woman who already had a car and had a crib and had bad, you know, shit, and that was the first person I moved in with. Is 1:11:14 that leeching? I don't really. Mooch is the word we're using, but this is the thing. Were you contributing to the household? To be fucking with a person solely for that is the difference. That's what I mean. That's 1:11:23 what I'm saying. So for me that is mooching. I've done that 1 time in my life where there was a chick I did not like I didn't fuck with didn't give a fuck about 1:11:31 but she had everything I needed to help me get to that next point. You was a hobo section. That's not what you did. That's not the same. So let's re-ask 1:11:39 it. Has anybody in this world ever moved? No, I never did. I never done that. So to make it fight to the finale is you're the only nigga in here that moves 1:11:47 you. That's peace. So you gotta let him have him because we did the research, King. We did. That's peace. Because I was tired of y'all keep trying to, you mean, let's get down to it. No, I 1:11:55 thought y'all was talking about, I thought when he jumped up. And this is proof that jokes are facts. What you thought I was saying, Ice? The whole driving somebody else's whip shit. Oh Everybody 1:12:03 that's what I thought. Yeah, but I wasn't just on that. All right, so what's the next level? You lift your motherfucking head up all you want What's 1:12:13 about I made not Made she looked out when I was down. So let me not speak ill I Didn't make but she went 1:12:22 to the auction and bought bought me a little car for 4500 So Joe I never I never 1:12:30 Drove I always drove my mom cars when I didn't have a car or I hit the office I was always auction do my mom 92 escort. I don't know if y'all remember that but Auction 1:12:49 it was she put in your name. I know you had a 92 Escort. I got a question, y'all. What year? My turquoise 92 Escort. 1:12:58 Who even makes Escorts? Ford. And I was parking it. This is how it was. I used to love that car, but anyway, I used to 1:13:06 park it by the hydrant at my dad's. So who cares, they put the tickets on it, who cares, ticket, ticket, ticket, ticket. 1 day they took the fucking car, and I called to see how much it was. 1:13:15 7000000, $438, 000. They wanted something like 7 grand. Yeah. Just leave it there. I paid 700 1:13:23 for the car. And I love that little cheap bullshit car. Yeah. I like a good little. Joe, do you? I 1:13:31 have a question. Okay. What is the level above Mooch and where you didn't get with her because of that, but once you get with her, you realize you don't like her, but she come with all this stuff. What is that 1:13:39 called? My nigga exactly. That's my boy. It's still mooching mooching Once you know what you don't like 1:13:47 them like you and I'm still here That's mooching Because I feel like we may have, I may have got y'all with the first 1, but the second 1 makes it harder. I think people in here 1:13:55 have probably, so no, nobody in here ever dated a girl, realized you didn't like her, the coochie was 50-50, required a spit start, don't you hate them? But 1:14:04 you realize you only like the bitch but she come with all this stuff and you stay y'all never did anything I know I I got to a point where I'm a guy to that point, 1:14:12 but then I actually ended up leaving I felt like 1:14:20 that about the person, there were certain benefits that would have made more sense to stay with, but I decided to leave. Yeah, I never did that because the staying part. 1:14:30 I was out of it. No. I don't have a problem with leaving. I always had more than the bitch Same for the most part except for I'm 1:14:39 not saying like they were I just always had yeah I always have my own car girls that way more shit to me Mm-hmm, But I wasn't with them based on what they had. Right, 1:14:47 now once you get with them, you realize, dick's a kinda ass. And you contemplate like, well, maybe I wouldn't 1:14:55 call her back. I'm not showing her any interest, but she lets me drive this Lexus. Never, never happened. Don't believe me. Who won the Lexus? I don't believe you. 1:15:04 I don't believe you. I'm thinking about that woman that brought you to escort Ford escort The 1:15:14 point is like when you think back to do you ever think about Chevy the old Chevy Impala Do you think about going back and taking? You got a cop car? Yeah, it was a cop car. You ever 1:15:22 thought about going back pieceing them off? Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Like, piece of law. You said she looked out for me when I didn't have it. So now that you up, do you ever think, 1:15:31 like, Let me go find her and drop some bread on there. Why you making a face? I'm being serious. Like, yo, remember the auction? Like, if she came back and was really down on her bottom. I held you down. Yeah. You could buy her 1:15:39 an escort. Yeah. Yo, I would do that. If I had an overwhelming amount of money, like I would- Like a podcast empire. Yeah, me too. That's why I'm- I'm with you. 1:15:48 I'm with you. You better throw a little adjective in there. No. Overwhelming. Yeah, I can't afford to go buy nobody a car. But I'm saying if I 1:15:56 could... This is good at the auction. I wouldn't buy nobody an auction car. If somebody looked out for me and I... No, that's what I'm talking about. 1:16:05 If I was just trying to say, yo, I appreciate what you did for me. That's what I'm saying. Here goes something come outside with a boat This is like that. I think that's this this 2 women in life 1:16:13 Yeah, she did this to win the life No matter what if they came back and it was like yo, I'm fucked up and I can't hope I'm out Because 1:16:25 I know the type of women they are they will only come to me if they was fucked up right So they say they're gonna go to you because they what they say is 1:16:33 they're not even coming to you just on some yoga Look at me. What not definitely? Gotta be to a point where you can 1:16:41 afford to get 80 grand honey. We're in a way like yo Texting fast as a bitch And 1:16:53 Homie didn't say too much to her. Bro. Like, that's the thing. He said- This nigga roll K. Okay? Oh, no. Just K. Oh, shit. 1:17:01 That's fucked up. We gonna have to draw the line and be in them, nah! And be in them single, y'all play too much. You got it. 1:17:09 Wait, not single? Listen, I'm with you. You been saying it for months. You is not single. Is there anybody that think you not single? Huh? Exactly. Your honey can't hear 1:17:17 you. That was a niggas answer ever. I didn't hear you. I didn't hear you. Is there anybody that think you're not single? No. Is there any dude that think he with you? No. No. 1:17:27 But you can hear how hot her voice gets. Right. It's another niggas. Right. Niggas was taking that. If a nigga caught a nigga outside. If a nigga caught a nigga outside. You hear me? That new Bonnie. Niggas 1:17:36 ain't just seeing that and letting shit live. I'm not even clear for sex yet, guys. That stops me. That don't mean nothing. That only mean 1 thing. 1:17:45 Yo, keep that faha on and lay on your wrist. Yo, you can't tuck the faha over, you can't, his 1:17:53 legs. Hey, you didn't squeeze your weewee in the hole in that faha, have you? Oh shit. You didn't fuck the bitch with the hole in that faha. The faha got a hole in it? You didn't fuck 1:18:01 the bitch with a hole in it? That was the Diddy method. That's the Diddy method. I said, have you squeezed your wee-wee in 1:18:09 a faha hole and hit a bitch with a faha hole on it? No, I thought the faha got a hole in it? Oh, no. I swear to God, I don't know. We're not supposed 1:18:17 to take them off. She was a pee poop whatever in them Yeah, they have Yeah You 1:18:26 just stopped right there when you were My naturally 1:18:34 bad, you know, you know, I get on fucking today back at work, okay I Or I didn't pay. All jokes aside. So I ain't get, y'all 1:18:42 mean. All jokes aside, y'all. When you get surgery. Mommy got a stitching guy. You supposed to, y'all know, so it don't matter. You supposed to compress 1:18:50 the entire time, right? So really, first week you don't take it off. Don't trace your body, what? Nigga horny 1:18:58 right here. Nigga rock. Nigga rock now. Rock 1:19:07 him up. I'm rocked up. So what happens on week 2 and 3? No, you won't get the rest of the story. What happens 1:19:15 afterwards? Listen, listen. People... The Fajas come with a coochie butthole 1:19:24 part that zips open or it just come open that's a fact. So I cracked the joke like have you ever put your dick in a fahaw hole because if the bitch was to bend over 1:19:32 and put her leg up you could probably hit cuz there's a hole right there So 1:19:49 you clear for sex no, I'm not clear for sex but I'm past the point of not removing it. You know what I mean? Okay, okay, okay. But 1:19:57 the first time I removed it, I got a sponge bag from the nurse. Because they put it right on you so you imagine you already cut up and it hurts real bad The thought of taking it off 1:20:05 is almost scary You know that you got your whole process will get massages and all that leakage and all that you got that drainage You gotta get the lymphatic drainage and all that Bad 1:20:16 bitches only I had 3 drains in my vagina. Phelps kept calling me Bane or Octopussy. Oh, okay. Oh, damn. You had 3 1:20:24 drains in your vagina. 3 drains in your vagina. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean, it's right. I have no idea. It's right here. They 1:20:32 put it at the top intersection. It's like 2. My bad. I know too much. I wish I could just, but I don't want to do too much. That's shocking when they text me. You different. I 1:20:41 used to have to see this shit all the time. That shit is crazy. That was puss. No, that's drainage. It's drainage, yeah. It's drainage, nigga. Yeah. 1:20:50 I'm playing, yo. Yeah, but it's crazy, though. The whole surgery thing is already crazy, but the fact that it's an everyday, like it's just such a common 1:20:58 thing. Even going across that border, like all those Border Patrol niggas was like perfecto like talking about the body know what you coming over there for like it's just 1:21:06 wow Kiana nah you come over here for surging like that's real real deal it was an experience that's crazy did 1:21:15 you video tape everything yeah everything yeah everything you're supposed to for promo no I basically put it all on my subscription where you can go 1:21:23 to DCMWG.com and you can watch my whole surgery journey. Oh yeah, that surgery cracked your little Wally boy. Boy stunk a bitch hard. 1:21:32 Boy. Why you do no care credit? They want cash, they want, because my credit, fuck, my credit don't care. In Mexico, nigga. I never cared about my credit, so now my credit don't 1:21:40 care about me. No care. But why you had your people calling in with that bad line? What, which 1? Like 1:21:49 we was worried. I was sick, nigga. From the surgery? Exactly. And from the bill. God 1:21:57 damn, I ain't think this through. The first is creeping up around the corner. Who the fuck? Oh shit. You put it on credit? First of all, 1:22:05 mind your business. Second of all, I paid cash, man. And it was still a steal. What I paid in Mexico, I would 1:22:13 have paid triple here. Or a bonus pocket. I paid a real 6 grand. That's cheap. That's cheap. I got a full tummy tuck. 1:22:22 I got a little bit of fat put in my ass. We're not like a full BBL, but they charged me like that and I got lipo. That's a pretty good number. I 1:22:30 got a fat transfer, yeah. So they take fat out of your stomach and put it in your ass? Transfer, yeah. But they didn't take all the fat out of your stomach and put it in your ass? No, they took 6.7 pounds of 1:22:38 skin off of my body in the front. Got you. How do you decide how much you want to put in your ass? He did, because basically when we started, and he'd 1:22:46 mark me up, he was like, you want to go big. And I'm like, no, I don't. But he's like, well, you got some ass back here. We talked about, and I just showed him pictures of me like 1:22:57 he said you have a he said you have volume that's like do you want to go big That's what counts when you go get surgery. The more weight you have on you, the more shit it's easier to transfer 1:23:05 the fat and move around. That's like when you take a younger kid to the barber before he got his facial hair, but when the barber hit this little thing right there, got a little 1:23:13 hair, a little cyber. Yo. It is. I'm telling y'all, and because you know I went with a friend and she she didn't have she had 1:23:21 less volume So she got around 12 1300 each cheek. I got like 7 something I really yeah, huh? Yeah, did a deal. No, 1:23:30 we do a deal, but she just did a lot of like clerical shit for me She held me down with that type of shit, but now we ain't no like bestie. I really pay I ain't wanna I didn't 1:23:38 want to listen how corny life is I didn't want to put myself in a place where I had to post that picture at a first original ugly ass gut with The new 1 and it happened anyway, 1:23:46 and then now like there was sacrilege why I didn't want to do it, niggas are posting it like, can you believe this bitch used to look like this and talk all that shit? Like people still, people find a way 1:23:55 to drag you either way. But in my mind, the thought of me having, I really, really hated that part of my body my whole life. I always had a gut in my whole life. Always. I 1:24:03 was always fat. But you talked about doing it up here. Yeah, I'm a little honest about it. It was just a drag in my feet thing. Here's what I don't get though. As famous as you are, why wouldn't 1:24:11 an American doctor do it for free for you just for the promo? I've had plenty of offers with free doctors. I've never had an offer from a free doctor that you look 1:24:19 at the work I've never and it is like for instance the last doctor I really talked to they ended up in like a social media war with a popular 1:24:28 influence of Philadelphia me bone a surgeon's office office went back and forth with a kid. Like that's enough to make me I don't want to go to you no more. 1:24:36 You know what I mean? The ones that's giving out the free shit normally are going to be those type of people. Not, I won't say normally. Not normal, not always. But you're looking to be the popular internet 1:24:44 sensation guy to keep. All the baddies. I'm okay with that if they do a good job in this like that. Kyra a chiropractor nigga What a teeth person person did? Studs 1:24:54 ill his teeth. Yeah. Oh and it's another thing cuz everything is smoking mirrors 2021 I remember my got more and more famous 1:25:02 friends half of my famous friends that were promoting a dentist about their teeth, that dentist didn't touch their teeth. It's all a scam. That's just like if in 6 months 1:25:10 I come out with a different doctor and I do a thing with him. And they just pay you for that. They just give you for that, yeah. And then today I picked my doctor because he's really really good at tummy tucks. So it was 1:25:18 like oh, that's what I'm really rude That's my number 1. So that's where I'm going I probably could have worked out a better deal and all that body and I just wanted and sometimes it's not even it's 1:25:26 cracked up to Be with that deal shit like nigga when a camera your face the whole time I want to 1:25:34 be able to say, I know there's certain things I have to do, my podcast, this podcast, couple, but I don't want to have to sit down with Eduardo and act like I like this nigga. Yeah, 1:25:42 nah, you right. I think you pay. Like you did. You did it right. On Twitter, you always on Twitter, That's your problem. I 1:25:51 was actually going to a topic I was looking for. Whatever, nigga. I wanted to see if you wanted to mention a topic. You were talking about a cameo. I know what we were supposed to talk about, arranged marriage. 1:26:01 Because we're going to try to get Anaya and Trey together. Oh, I was, I was talking about something else. We got arranged marriages. We got the 1:26:09 spin doctor. And we got the couple, the couple that we got. Smosh motion. Bring it out. That's a good 1. Yeah. Let's run through all these shit 1:26:17 real quick. There's a couple that, he's a pretty popular YouTuber. And him and his- What genre? I 1:26:26 don't even know the genre, but they're pretty popular and they announced that they were having a child. And then after further testing, they found out 1:26:34 that the child Was gonna have Down syndrome. Mm-hmm. So they elected to have a smush motion Oh, 1:26:42 and the internet is fine. You can't say abortion on camera. I don't want to say And they told the audience They elected to terminate the pregnancy. That's 1:26:51 what they fucked up and tell the people. And they told their audience. That's what they fucked up. Yeah, and they told their audience. That's what they fucked up. Yes. Well, I mean, if they- I can't understand it. Well, if 1:26:59 you told the audience- What you can't understand. Would you have lied? Yes. Or just not mentioned it. No, well, you told them you were having a baby and all of that you told them you have and they don't want to know what happened miscarriage Yeah, that's 1:27:07 a lot. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot. I'm with you Why would you share that with people? Well, I mean, I think 2 things. I'm okay with you know 1:27:15 1 nowadays people people that get some of these big audiences. You okay with sharing that? A lot of times, what? That you're terminating the baby because 1:27:24 the doctor said there's a high chance he would have Down syndrome? Yeah, I think, I'm not saying I would share that. I'm saying I don't, I'm okay with people sharing that on the platform 1:27:32 because I think, 1, I think we need to kind of honestly, 2, there are a lot of parents, especially now. Why do we need that type of honesty? I'll tell you why. I 1:27:42 think if you make your life an open book, then you gotta be honest about all the parts of it. Because don't tell me. Why? No you don't. 1:27:50 Because I think you give people unrealistic expectation or unrealistic expectation or unrealistic understanding of what the journey is like. I'm not saying you 1:27:58 owe that to the audience. In general, I'm saying if I'm sharing, for example, the baby journey, say for, like a lot of people do IVF now, just as an example, right? If I go through 1:28:06 IVF, I go through genetic testing, I go through all the things, and I make it sound like this perfect magical journey, but I never mention the fact that I had 3 miscarriages, 1:28:15 I never mention the fact that- IVF failed 7 times. IVF failed 7 times with 8 attempts, so I don't mention the fact that I had to make some tough ethical decisions or personal decisions. I 1:28:23 think it leads the people in an unrealistic direction. That's all. That's 1 thing to share that something failed, but this didn't fail. You 1:28:31 chose. That's what I said, this is an ethical decision. You chose. You chose. It depends on what you based your audience on and a lot of these people they base their 1:28:39 audience or their audience feeds into them because they make them feel like they are part of them. Your audience matter that much with you. For some people, yes. Yo, some of us got some, yo, 1:28:48 morally, some of us are disgusting. I don't think there's a moral. We feel like our audience is owed more respect than the actual child that we might begin to birth. 1:28:56 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm asking, this is a question. Wait a minute. 1 at a time, 1 at a time. Yeah, because I'm trying to follow y'all, but I'm lost. I'm trying to... 1:29:04 I don't want to comment. It is. Hear me out. And this is kind of back to some of the conversation we had before when the girl went online to expose 1:29:13 that she left her man. We don't need to know everything. Your life can be shared under 1:29:21 certain guys, right? But at some point, is there nothing sacred to your fucking life? Like childbirth, like the fact that your child might 1:29:29 have been a child that would have suffered with Down syndrome, like why, we don't have to know all this shit. You still can go ahead and have a more high ground 1:29:37 on certain things that are part of your life. Let me ask a quick question. We don't know you niggas, we don't know you, and you can entertain or you can feel like you're sharing, but at a 1:29:45 certain point, sharing your life starts to get out of fucking whack for the sake of a dollar off of building a brand. Like this is past building a brand. Building your family 1:29:53 should not also be attached to building your brand. Let me ask a quick question. Is the problem that they terminated the pregnancy for 1:30:02 that reason, or that they told the people that they terminated the pregnancy for that reason, or that they told the people that they terminated the pregnancy for that reason. I think both is fucked up. The first 1 is the problem, but people are masking it under the second 1:30:10 1. Facts. No. I don't think the first 1 is the problem. No, that's not what's happening online. No. I'm the only 1 that's mad that they told somebody. They tan her 1:30:18 apart online for the Down syndrome part of this. That's what I'm saying. The first 1. That's what we're saying. Can I say something? I'm, oh go ahead. 1:30:26 Number 1, not to correct you, but when you said suffer from Down syndrome, Suffer from Down Syndrome isn't a thing anymore. People live happy lives 1:30:34 with Down Syndrome. Super happy lives. People get jobs, people get married. I'm not trying to, I'm just. I'm not saying for me, I'm saying their idea must have been suffering because if you didn't 1:30:42 look at it as suffering, then you would have no need to terminate the baby. That's not true, That's not necessarily true. That's my assumption. I'm saying that's a bad 1. I know a lot of families who made this decision, and I've talked 1:30:50 to families who made that decision, and they don't all have that reason. Right. What's the reason? Some people feel like, first of all, if you believe in abortion, then the range 1:30:58 of options expands, right? So it might not be that, because some people will say, I don't want the child to suffer this like I'm not saying it doesn't Have it but some people are like I'm not Capable 1:31:07 of caring for this type of child. I'm literally not capable of doing that Yes, I've seen people So 1:31:15 a lot of times when you a 1:31:30 lot of times when you go through genetic testing, they'll tell you, here's the chances of having sickle cell. Here's a chance of having this. Here's a chance of having this. And some people who 1:31:38 go through that make a decision, I'm not capable of assuming this level of risk. There's an 80% chance my child's gonna have Down syndrome. There's a 50% chance 1:31:46 my child's gonna have Down syndrome. Other people say, not just like, will they have it, but can I manage this? And they say, I can't 1:31:54 manage it. There's nothing wrong with it, but I can't deal with it. I'm gonna be this parent, and I can't do it. I don't think that You have to share that, but 1:32:02 I don't want to demonize somebody who does, especially if I'm in a, and I don't know these people, so I don't want to speak to them in particular, but especially if you're on 1:32:10 a platform where you're talking about the journey, that's all I'm saying. Because as somebody who's going through a lot of this stuff, I can tell you a 1:32:19 lot of the videos I watched, a lot of the examples I watched, a lot of the courses we took, people like to share the glory of these journeys, but 1:32:27 they don't share the hard part. And so you think you're the first person to deal with it. I know at least, I can think of at least 5 people including 1 family member who had this exact decision to make and 1:32:35 they had nobody to look to. So when you decide to make that decision to abort for example, you might feel like the worst person in the world because you feel like no 1 else has dealt with it. Until a community of people come out 1:32:43 and say, yo, we went through the same exact thing. You're not alone. We share this with you. We don't fuck with them Down Syndrome kids neither. Huh? This 1:32:51 is crazy. Can I finish what I was trying to say? That's what I was going to say with Mark. I think sometimes it's not even about the 1:32:59 kid, it's about me. I know I can't handle that. For me, like, right now online, right, it's a 1:33:08 popular term, you'll see a kid with Down syndrome living his life, dancing, playing or whatever, and people put in the comments, vibes are up, syndrome 1:33:16 down, but the vibes are up like this Syndrome doesn't look like what he used to write But it is more intricate than it would be raising the kid 1:33:24 there. I say that doesn't have it I feel as though like I'm with Joe why tell it in Like 1:33:32 I don't know how they responded to it, but it's like, of course people are gonna be really upset. You know what I mean? Like that's such a new age thing to be able to do, to see that and to make the 1:33:40 decision. On top of the fact that so many people are not even pro-choice, right? They don't even believe in abortion at all, right? I feel like your problem 1:33:48 with it is both. To abort the kid that, cause you think it's wrong on both ends. The fact that they did. You think abortion is wrong? I think in this situation, 1:33:57 for what is happening in this. Are you pro-choice though? Depending on the situation, Yeah. What the fuck does that mean? If a woman is raped, then I feel like she should have the option. 1:34:06 Oh, you wanted him. Fuck, get him off of here. Get him out of here. What? I'm not judging your beliefs. That's what I believe. If a woman, hear me out. 1:34:14 If A woman is raped and she does not want to go through because I know women who have been through that and still keep the baby. That's their choice. But if a woman was to say, I don't want to go ahead and 1:34:23 birth my abuser's child, I can understand the psychology behind that. Or to save her life. So you want to do it. Also, a young girl, a girl who's out 1:34:31 here experiencing sexuality at a very young age but not also well equipped enough mentally to understand what can happen after that. I can understand the world would that 1:34:39 make sense. But if I get pregnant right now you don't believe you think I should be able to have abortion? No, I think everyone should. I'm telling you the situations where I am going to go march in respect of 1:34:47 laws being put in front of women to not be able to do so. I think every woman should have the choice to do what they want. Okay, that's what I was asking. Unless the baby has Down syndrome. 1:34:56 I think when you're a parent and you're planning to- So he is pro-choice. You are pro-choice. That's all I'm looking for. Are you pro-choice or not? Because I'm just wondering- I'm just giving you an example. You asked me for examples 1:35:04 of when- I didn't, babe. I just asked for you pro-choice. And the reason why I wanted to know is because I wanted to know what of this situation bothered you. The fact of the abortion part or is it the fact that they aborted the kid 1:35:12 because he found out they had a damn- I said both bothered me. And the reason why is because if you're 2 parents, well no, you're 2 people, you're married, right? 1:35:21 And the plan is we want to have a child, right? So we're going through the steps to have a child. A lot of people don't get that option to even get 1:35:29 to this far. Like there's a lot of people out here who can't have children. There's a lot of people who don't get that opportunity. So you get this opportunity, you share it with the rest of 1:35:37 the world. You're obviously happy about that happening at the jump, right? And you just said Down syndrome should not be looked down upon, and I agree. I don't think that 1:35:45 that's going to stop someone from having a loving and fulfilled life. It's fucked up to me that these parents couldn't see that as well, and you're giving them all the 1:35:53 excuses from the jump of, well, we don't know what they can handle in experience. You didn't even go through the handle yet to see what you could handle. But unfortunately, I know. No, that's not what we 1:36:01 said. That's not what we said. That's not what we said. That's not 1 of those, if I can't handle it, all right, I could just navigate out. I'm here, I'm stuck. You're stuck with what? If 1:36:09 I just- The situations you can't manage. Yes. I know that I can't- It's not as simple as like, I bought this car, it's too much for me, I can take it back. The minute you decide to go ahead and have a baby. The minute you go ahead and decide 1:36:17 to have a baby, you don't know what's gonna come forth and you have to be prepared for that. Unless you do genetic testing and find out and then you have an abortion. And I think that that's fucked up, that you get the option 1:36:25 to just say, yo, I don't want this type of child, so, poof, be gone. I don't like that. So let me ask you this, So for you, this testing really is pointless 1:36:34 because it shouldn't even be around. Agreed? For me, it wouldn't be an option for me to do. So besides for you, you don't think that nobody 1:36:42 should be able to see. I'll make it simple. If I go with my wife and we're planning to have a child and she gets pregnant, we're going to raise that child. 1:36:50 No matter what? No matter how they come out. Down syndrome, autism, whatever. We're going to love that child. That's what we set forth. And I'm not going 1:36:58 to look at that child any different from any other child that we might have birthed. That's just how I view it. God, I respect you. I respect you. We're going to move past the manly part. Now 1:37:06 what I was trying to say about the sharing it, if you sharing your pregnancy journey, and then you get pregnant and find out that kid has down syndrome, 1:37:14 you would either have to lie, like me and Jobe said, right? Or you would just have to tell what happened. Mind you, motherfuckers do this every day. Motherfuckers find 1:37:22 out every day that that kid has some genetic issue that they really don't want no parts up and they abort. It's a very common thing. And it's not just this year 1:37:30 new. I'll say what, the last 5 years, 7 years or something? Well you can see. Longer than that. Because it's 1 of those tests you get pregnant that is kind of painful, but they 1:37:38 do, you know, and you have a, because I remember being asked when I last pregnancy, do you want to take this test? I remember them asking me. Because you didn't have to or whatever, because it was like a really long 1:37:47 speculum and all that. I don't know. I'm all for times moving and science changing and being able to have because 1:37:55 I know that a kid that is experiencing abuse on a Down syndrome tip because of that, that's a horrible situation, 1:38:04 right? And if a lot of those parents knew prior to, right, they might have been able to opt out of that. Because abusing your Down syndrome kid could just be you neglecting them 1:38:12 because you don't know what the fuck you're doing or you're overwhelmed by it. Some people are embarrassed by this kid that looks different and sounds different. That kid shouldn't be born into the world, that family. My personal 1:38:20 opinion. And it's hard to adopt, it's hard to put those kids... Nobody wants them. They're stuck at the orphanage forever. Listening to Mark, I can understand somebody 1:38:30 being bold enough to tell the whole story if this is what you signed up for. So you open my eyes to that perspective. On 1:38:38 the flip side, the reason I'm gonna stick the line about it is because whatever I came up with don't really 1:38:47 sound like good justification to me, which is where I feel, Imani. Like, I'm not coming out and saying, yo, I didn't want this 1. It's crazy that you get to use life 1:38:55 that way. And the I can't handle this crock of shit. Yeah. Also, you know what else is a piece of that? That's a crock of shit. You know what else is a piece 1:39:03 of that, y'all? The only reason why I don't roll with crock of shit is because, like y'all said, it's gonna be hard to get them adopted. And if you... To get them adopted? Because 1:39:12 once the child does come out and you can't handle it... Or just be their parent. And if you can't handle it, I'm not saying just be their 1:39:20 parent some parents can't handle this shit they didn't like you've heard me say I signed up for this. Imagine being a single parent in a project. Unfortunately that's real. You got 1 of 1:39:28 the kids and now you got this other kid. It's not fair to that kid to be honest. No, it's not Now this is what I'm gonna ask y'all. What's the difference in this? Hold up 1:39:36 for a second Mona. That's part of why I'm saying it's a crock of shit Don't change the example to single parent because my opinion changes. I didn't change Circumstances 1:39:45 where you should be It's not a crock I didn't change it because they were both circumstantially you can't make 1:39:54 -> 100:02.980] it the most ideal terms, right? Some people work 12 hours a day. So if You have a husband and a wife that both work 12 hours a day,