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The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 874 | Miley & Molly

Nov 3, 2025 · Duration: 3:35:56

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— [100:05.280 --> 100:13.500] As a mainstream, though, they say. It's about the mainstream. They're saying, will it go to, is it going the way of? Yo, people, when people make you think

— [100:13.500 --> 100:21.600] that hip hop is just a music thing, that's like to me some right wing. Some, yeah. Hip hop is more than what the Jewish

— [100:21.600 --> 100:29.620] people are doing with the music. True. Hip hop is a lifestyle. True. That's a fact. And if you look at Louis Vuitton runways, if

— [100:29.620 --> 100:37.680] you look at all of that shit, All of that shit is being influenced by us. We're in the world. All that shit is being influenced by us. My nigga, Pharrell, sitting on these couches and

— [100:37.680 --> 100:45.720] these boardrooms is a testament to hip hop. Agreed. Oh, I agree with that. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think hip hop is going nowhere. And I do- Hip hop, That's what I hate about

— [100:45.720 --> 100:53.800] the narrative that I'm seeing from this billboard. I definitely remember that though, like when rap was still like, I definitely remember that

— [100:53.800 --> 101:01.820] when rap was like, it was new. You know what I mean? It was still fairly new. And it just, me growing up through the 90s through the 2000s

— [101:01.920 --> 101:10.160] it just to me it just got cemented because it infected everything else you know what I mean you spoke about us our slang words being slang words for the country

— [101:10.160 --> 101:18.880] versus our slang words like we really dick we're the movers and shakers we dictate like how shit go what's cool you know what I mean and that's right

— [101:19.500 --> 101:27.540] you can't reverse that, you know what I mean? But I definitely remember when it was like, compared to disco and other things that went in and out and blah blah blah. It's been

— [101:27.540 --> 101:35.820] here for 50 plus years. It's not going anywhere. It's not going anywhere at all. And there's too much great shit to even dignify this fucking... But also we gotta

— [101:35.820 --> 101:43.860] just start asking the deeper questions. We've had 1000000 artists come up to this very platform and say, I'm not releasing music because I can't

— [101:43.860 --> 101:51.900] release music. Like, some people don't control their output. 1,

— [101:51.940 --> 102:00.060] 2, what the fuck do the labels care? If I have, I got your digital rights. I got your TV rights. I have

— [102:00.060 --> 102:08.360] all the rights. Y'all sitting here bigging up fucking NPR and all these other places that give all the money to the record label. Like talking about, oh, the artist's

— [102:08.560 --> 102:16.900] musicianship. What are you talking about? So every year or every other year or every 3 or 5 years, whoever owns this stuff is going to negotiate

— [102:17.540 --> 102:25.680] with the 2 make who makes up the stream, the streamer people. We step into YouTube, we step into the people licensing music and we're

— [102:25.680 --> 102:33.780] negotiating. So in that I might be holding some music when UMG step to tick tock and say what the fuck are y'all doing? Everything

— [102:33.780 --> 102:41.780] stops. That's happening behind the scenes. So music being plagued is not just a rap, rappers.

— [102:43.480 --> 102:51.700] There's a lot of moving parts in this. I have a question for you, right? What's up, Demona? I thought it was interesting just being up here with you and you being so open and blunt about

— [102:51.700 --> 102:59.840] how fucked up the music industry is because people like you have to do that, right? For people to get it out there. You think back in the day, like people

— [102:59.840 --> 103:07.960] know The industries were fucked up for black people and things were outed. But I feel like when I was growing up, 90s, 2000s, you didn't really see niggas go at the record label

— [103:07.960 --> 103:16.120] and be open with their pieces of shit and their fucked up people. Exactly. You couldn't. So now that we had a time where nigga might tweak the record label, I mean, there I say

— [103:16.120 --> 103:24.160] it, some people might even push to where it's like they reach you and they're following and say, yo, this is what they're doing to me, y'all. Y'all love me, this is bullshit, this is what happens.

— [103:24.660 --> 103:32.780] Or like when we had Queen Anja up here, she talking about making a project saying, here, fucking take it, just take it, you know, to let everybody know the feelings. My question is is when

— [103:32.780 --> 103:40.800] it's so open and it's so widely known now what the fuck would have to happen for that to change? Because it's wrong and everybody knows

— [103:40.800 --> 103:49.020] so you know and it doesn't happen it doesn't even exist without us, without the artist. I think today you can make your soup a different way.

— [103:49.340 --> 103:57.480] Just go a different route. Back in the day, everything was controlled. Now, most of it is controlled, but there's some options for you. Again, I always

— [103:57.480 --> 104:05.660] ask people, like when I signed my record deal, I had to sit with myself and say what do you want out of this for me that answer

— [104:05.660 --> 104:13.780] was I want to be the best the best MC not make the best single I had never even tried to make a single and that I want to have the

— [104:13.780 --> 104:21.980] best album I never even thought of an album before I want to be able to walk in the room with all the rappers and when I rap, they understand what time it is. Every artist got to figure

— [104:21.980 --> 104:30.220] out what they want from this shit. That's why when Imani was here talking the other day about somebody giving them an opportunity, I can't speak to that, right? Because that's not my wheelhouse anymore.

— [104:30.300 --> 104:38.300] I've unprogrammed myself from that. Once I learned that I could sell 13, 000 copies of a project and make more

— [104:38.300 --> 104:46.420] than I could, if I sold 75, 000 copies of a project over here, I was cool, right? Now you could go to fucking, what's all the fucking

— [104:46.420 --> 104:54.980] shits to fucking, where Pap worked at? Tune Core. You can go to your tune course shit Instagram I pay you take talk up a you YouTube

— [104:55.240 --> 105:03.580] pay you you can sell it on your own Put the link tree in your shit If you make music find a way to sell it alleviate the middleman and just do that for your life.

— [105:03.580 --> 105:11.600] I promise you, you'll be fine. Yeah. And honestly, people sharing, when you sharing your personalities, that was my experience on the internet. You share your personality like

— [105:11.600 --> 105:19.820] you didn't buy anything you have to sell. So if you are a musician that you're not shy, you won't have a problem sharing some shit, do more of that because that

— [105:19.820 --> 105:28.000] might look like you doing a project and making it 50 bucks. They gonna buy it because they love you. That's the difference. That comes full circle to the AI conversation, which is another full circle

— [105:28.000 --> 105:36.100] in here somewhere, but the AI shit is cool, but long term, if people don't give a fuck about you they're not gonna really give a fuck about the music it might be a slap in there that

— [105:36.100 --> 105:44.740] people put on play but they there's that there's no money in streaming I'm here to tell you if someone is released a bunch of shit on streaming unless you have bazillion bazillion

— [105:44.800 --> 105:53.260] streams would you often pay for there's no money in that so cool make your shit and put it on the internet. Who gives a fuck? Maybe you'll make a slap. Cool. But

— [105:53.260 --> 106:02.380] it's not really that important. It's going back to your what do you want combo. There's a lot of people getting in hip hop as

— [106:02.380 --> 106:10.560] a stepping stone to get somewhere else. True. They heart not really in this. This is just a lick. I'm going to get in here, get hot, and then move over here

— [106:10.560 --> 106:18.660] where I'm going to make the money and be famous and do an XYZ. This is just an introduction. And it reflects in they are. Dog, go write

— [106:18.660 --> 106:27.720] a commercial. Go write a jingle. I think niggas do it. They're 9 to 20 seconds Spend

— [106:27.720 --> 106:36.940] your time doing that if you have children put a camera in front of those little motherfuckers. Facts. Especially

— [106:36.940 --> 106:45.160] if they little do it. Yes. Are you shitting me? Anything my son press on YouTube is at 70 million. What?

— [106:45.320 --> 106:53.340] Them niggas watching kids play with a toy. Anything impressed is at 70 million. I'm not talking to you people that, hey, my family, my private somebody's

— [106:53.340 --> 107:01.360] gonna come stab me. I'm not talking to y'all, that's your prerogative. But if you're on some different timing and you want 70 million views, hey, Go explain how that

— [107:01.360 --> 107:09.600] vacuum work with your kid in the back Nigga, I came here was telling y'all niggas during COVID what miss Rachel was doing and she was doing 3 and 4

— [107:09.600 --> 107:20.760] and 500000000 without a manicure and chapped lips Let

— [107:20.760 --> 107:29.120] me tell you something Miss Rachel was willing to wish all the motherfucking views to stand on her platform and say free Palestine and speak for people that need her voice.

— [107:29.980 --> 107:38.740] Ms. Rachel's a real 1. You a real ass bitch, Miss Rachael. I fuck with you, Rach. You never heard her name again. It's a real nigga. Rachael. And

— [107:38.740 --> 107:48.040] that was the last day. Thank you. Yeah, that was the last day. That was. That's how the doc ends. She might as well come host up here. No,

— [107:48.040 --> 107:56.140] I love that about me. It's admirable. A lot of people wouldn't risk it like that. And they, cause a nice amount of her feed base turned their back on her. Did you hear that Dave song by the way?

— [107:56.140 --> 108:04.500] The last song on the album? No. He talks about, I'll play it for you later. Okay. Did you see that the UMG and UDO, the AI company

— [108:04.500 --> 108:12.540] also settled this week coincidentally while all this hubbub about the top 40? That's what I'm saying. Niggas is doing deals in the background. Fucking stupid fans

— [108:12.540 --> 108:20.560] is talking about some I ain't paying these things. I'm not paying these things. But no, I didn't. Yeah, the company, it's, I think, where BBL Drizzy was created

— [108:20.560 --> 108:28.680] on the platform. They think I'm 1 of them. But what's interesting about it is that, at least in the press releases, is the artists

— [108:28.680 --> 108:36.750] that are getting used in this AI modeling will be compensated how that looks and I'm sure it'll be bullshit but. Please, yeah, sound like a lie. Yeah. No,

— [108:36.750 --> 108:45.000] even if, what's the compensation? And I'm sitting here doing all this, that's the other thing. Like I don't even talk about this topic really because I know most of y'all

— [108:45.000 --> 108:53.020] are signing your rights away voluntarily. So I'm not really, I'm talking to myself. Right. Like I'm

— [108:53.020 --> 109:01.020] the model of what I want to see in the community. You niggas is fucking pay for play. Y'all do whatever the fuck

— [109:01.220 --> 109:11.380] they tell y'all to do. So, is some of y'all out there right now who don't have you, who don't even have your AI right? Yeah. Dog.

— [109:11.380 --> 109:19.420] Like I ain't about to come in here and keep preaching to niggas, are you crazy? I used to talk about niggas just using it as a stepping stone to go to something else. Somebody's using niggas just using it as a stepping stone to go to something else. Somebody's using niggas

— [109:19.420 --> 109:27.600] is using it as a stepping stone to get out the pissy hallway. Like fuck, niggas can't even think about the next step. Niggas is thinking about getting

— [109:27.600 --> 109:35.820] the fuck out this hallway when niggas is selling Skag every day. No, when I say that, I mean, we talk about people like caring about the art and shit. I'm just saying like, that's

— [109:35.820 --> 109:44.340] not the purpose for getting into hip hop. Yeah, these niggas. Listen, it's Halloween. I don't wanna beat people down with this. It's Halloween, y'all making me mad because I'm really passionate about this stuff. But

— [109:44.340 --> 109:52.460] I do wanna stay on this AI topic for 2 seconds. Do you guys know, rest in

— [109:52.460 --> 110:00.560] peace, Suzanne Summers? Of course. Damn. Do y'all see the story about her husband? She been dead though. Suzanne Summers been dead forever.

— [110:00.780 --> 110:08.960] She and her husband were married for 50 something years, 60 something years. Now that she's gone, the husband has made an AI

— [110:10.360 --> 110:18.380] doll that he says he doesn't like to call AI. He likes to call it her twin. And he said,

— [110:18.380 --> 110:26.920] make it less creepy. He says that Suzanne Summers wrote 27 books before her death and

— [110:26.920 --> 110:34.940] these were her wishes that they program to this AI model because he's not ready to live a life without the person that he married. I'm

— [110:34.940 --> 110:42.980] not mad at that. I do want to ask everyone here their thoughts on that. I'm not. I told y'all before. I think it's weird. I thought that's what I said

— [110:42.980 --> 110:51.040] a long time ago. That's where I envisioned all of this shit going anyway. Transferring consciousness. Yeah, yeah, that's like step 1. What did you say? Transferring

— [110:51.040 --> 110:59.240] consciousness. Transferring consciousness. Like when your body, we see it in 1000000 movies, like your body is a shell, it's a host. So if they can take your brain

— [110:59.240 --> 111:07.340] or your whatever and put it in another physical box. So for lack of a better word, that's what they vying for. We see it in a bunch of people. So now they're building it. Bro, bro,

— [111:07.340 --> 111:15.740] no. Nah. Fuck no. I'm not, I'm not for it. I'm just telling you. Bro, you not mad at it. I'm not mad at it. I don't know if I would do it. I am freaked out about it. I think I

— [111:15.740 --> 111:23.780] would. 1 of the things that, often the audience, when we're off camera a lot of times I tell my colleagues that if something, God forbid, would happen to my wife. She was abducted by aliens. She was abducted by aliens, got

— [111:23.780 --> 111:31.860] hit by a bus, or something like that, that I would immediately. Aliens. Let's stick with aliens. Live a life of solitude and loneliness. And this seems like it

— [111:31.860 --> 111:39.900] offers an alternative to that. You know what I mean? Where you can still have that partner that you want. That you have. I'm shocked as hell. That's 1 thing about living, is a part

— [111:39.900 --> 111:47.900] of it is death. It's what we fucking do. I know that we can update things and make everything easier and accessible, but we should not make it so that

— [111:47.900 --> 111:56.600] you could put your grandma Barbara in your fucking in a robot. You say grandma? You know, I'll go back to grandma with this 1. Listen, at the end of the day, the

— [111:56.600 --> 112:04.700] fact that you go through life and you get this acceptance and you know that that's the end and you have something, even when people change, you want to get better before you death or people think about heaven to hell

— [112:04.700 --> 112:17.960] or whatever I don't think we should upset the order of that you get you spend a certain amount of time when it's fucking play Then you go nigga. It's over my nigga I

— [112:17.960 --> 112:26.180] think that even like we all are 40 plus right And I think that when we go remember our lives, when we were 20 and we were just doing

— [112:26.280 --> 112:34.700] stupid shit, thinking that, oh, I got time. Oh, I got time. I'm not going to do that because I got time. When you get to a certain age, you're like, no, time is

— [112:34.960 --> 112:43.040] finite. And so let me get to it. If you know that you could just not die or I could just keep transferring my consciousness, then you're not gonna be motivated

— [112:43.100 --> 112:51.280] to do nothing because you know You got time. I can have kids later. You know how many women I know that put off having children until

— [112:51.280 --> 112:59.340] they realized, damn, I don't have a certain amount of time in which to have children. Let me get this done. They thought you was spent. And then they thought, oh, look, look.

— [112:59.340 --> 113:07.460] It was waiting on you. You let them down. Now there's technology to those that after a while couldn't they're still having children. Look at this lady,

— [113:07.460 --> 113:16.460] man. This is not Suzanne Summers. No, no, no. That's my thing. This is step 1. Like, that's my thing. This is step 1, fam. Oh, yeah. It'll

— [113:16.460 --> 113:24.520] get better. That's all I'm saying. I'm not, yo, to some people. I mean, have you seen the movies? I've seen a bunch of them. Blackberry, Blackberry. Can we be honest? You don't have to put the books

— [113:24.520 --> 113:32.560] in her to fuck that doll. That's all that man doing with that thing. I don't think so. Okay. He's definitely fucking that doll. He's not listening to shit that bitch said. He's climbing

— [113:32.560 --> 113:40.740] on top of her. But that's also like the movie I came in here and asked y'all about where homeboy bought the doll, the fucker and the white guy jealous, yada, yada, yada, yada. Yeah, I think it's a little

— [113:40.740 --> 113:49.060] deeper than that. I think it's a little more mental than that. If I'm fucking the doll, nigga, check me in somewhere. Bro, like with me. Even though I'm not King Shaman,

— [113:49.140 --> 113:57.380] I get it. Hold on, I be what? I fuck the Fifi, nigga, So you ain't gotta talk to me. I give you said it wasn't a body These too many times up here

— [113:59.660 --> 114:07.760] Relate to her she's a jailbird the girl No, I've seen girls make strap ones

— [114:07.800 --> 114:15.980] and dildos I don't want a bond like underwear you make the strap on with the underwear. The dildo is usually like, Usually internally

— [114:16.120 --> 114:24.260] pins, then you do maxi pads around it, and a lot of maxi pads, then you do rubber gloves, and then you got a rubber hard, whole dick. You're not gonna beat the allegations like this. I've never

— [114:24.260 --> 114:32.360] had any pussy. You don't know if I get some pussy because I'll be in your bitch phone. Hey! Stop playing, please. You don't want me to try pussy trust me. Stop

— [114:32.360 --> 114:41.140] playing with the Mona. Really though, but no seriously. Eat your bitch out nigga. They do, they do. Trap on's in, we

— [114:41.140 --> 114:49.500] made tampons in jail. We made passes in jail. They don't give you nothing. You don't have no supplies. You gotta do what you gotta do. And unfortunately they don't sell dildos on commissary. Would you believe it? No,

— [114:49.500 --> 114:57.960] but I think that I think it's morally wrong. You don't even bring in religion or whatever. I just think that even learning how to deal with grief and getting past that, you know,

— [114:57.960 --> 115:06.020] or having a certain respect for people that left your family and we remember them and we have events and stuff like that. It's like you were supposed to go. I don't, there's no way some of the stuff

— [115:06.020 --> 115:14.120] that we do here when it's playing as humans, it should stay that way. Like really. See I think that's the next step in humanity, man. Cause then people- Because what

— [115:14.120 --> 115:22.460] you said was that you would do it. You would totally put your lady in the fucking dock you said that's what you said and what you saying is not

— [115:22.620 --> 115:30.740] humanity I'm just saying I'm talking about so whatever I'm with you that there will be a next step I'm

— [115:30.740 --> 115:39.060] again I'm my pushback is I don't think we will be here for we won't we might not be we're starting it It should be escalating quick though. We're starting knowledge. I mean like

— [115:39.060 --> 115:47.660] and it might be right around the time We need it like we in our 70s in our 80s. That's still 30 40 years from now. That shit might be right Look at the downsize You

— [115:47.660 --> 115:55.740] gotta look at the data come out with something while I'm 80 now. Hold up. Everybody thinks about the positive. What's the negative side? Donald Trump is president

— [115:55.740 --> 116:04.020] forever. Forever! No, overpopulation. It's a whole bunch of other things that are going to take place. We already, we already scrapping and clawing

— [116:04.020 --> 116:12.080] for resources now. So imagine when motherfuckers is not dying and leaving the planet, where the resources go? That's a robot. He not eating. He not doing this like years

— [116:12.080 --> 116:20.180] in. And listen, I just watched this random TikTok where it was like, it was like 3 or 4 minutes of old people saying,

— [116:20.180 --> 116:28.260] I'm ready to die. Literally birthday parties with grandmom. She make a wish. She blows the candle. I hope I die. Old people be ready to fucking go. Like

— [116:28.260 --> 116:36.460] even having that feeling of like, I did my job here. My titties are on my knees. I'm ready to go see Jesus. I think it don't work. It's nothing wrong with that. I'm

— [116:36.460 --> 116:44.520] almost surprised that more of y'all are not where me, it's in your work. Cause it's like, what the fuck? I'm okay, I am. Cause what about when they start

— [116:44.520 --> 116:52.800] doing it without your fucking consent? Go ahead, then you close us. For me, right, and 1 of y'all can close us out still, I'm

— [116:52.800 --> 117:00.880] still down with the reports that was coming out about niggas paying to go freeze themselves and get unfrozen later on. I haven't left that part

— [117:00.880 --> 117:09.300] of reincarnation or freezing, I haven't left that yet. So to skip to, all right, you're dead and that's it. And

— [117:09.300 --> 117:18.820] now I'm taking all your shit and putting it in AI. I can't get jiggy with that. I just feel like every generation confronts technology that makes us rethink what

— [117:18.820 --> 117:26.820] life is and what natural is. From freezing eggs to, there's time when people in comas and resuscitation and all that shit, people are like, no, if they're supposed to die, let them die.

— [117:26.820 --> 117:35.220] Like, that's nature. Like, we always confront this, and I think it always seems weird to us, but the next generation, it might be normal. So I'm not with it either, all jokes aside, but

— [117:35.340 --> 117:43.340] I could empathize with somebody who would be. Did anybody see Kim Kardashian say that the moon landing wasn't real? Oh, please.

— [117:43.440 --> 117:51.440] I missed that 1, dang. I Need to see it. Well, it's only a thing because of like a real scientist that was involved with the shit replied to

— [117:51.440 --> 117:59.580] her It was like big dog We were there we were there a few times. I got to meet with you I can teach you the niggas that be

— [117:59.580 --> 118:07.600] educated when they read new it's so nice and sweet and polite and makes you feel warm. It's only nice if you don't understand the words. I

— [118:07.600 --> 118:15.620] can show you the studio where we filmed it. I'm not mad at her though. Listen. You don't believe in the moon landing? Fuck no. I'm not

— [118:15.620 --> 118:23.760] doing this anymore though. No, okay. I'm not willing to say that publicly What I

— [118:23.760 --> 118:31.920] will say is I believe Kim Kardashian knows things that we don't I do feel good saying

— [118:31.920 --> 118:40.240] that I feel good saying that's put a lot of With him

— [118:40.240 --> 118:48.420] but niggas like no, we know what to do this morning. They was like, okay I'm gonna ask you. Oh, we were Looking to hear from her. Let's hear from and I'm like, yeah

— [118:49.000 --> 118:57.000] But I do believe she knows some shit that other people don't I think there are things she knows Especially in politics in the world that she operates in when it gets to science.

— [118:57.000 --> 119:05.100] I probably Have less faith in you know Yo, she can she that money certain types of money put

— [119:05.100 --> 119:13.160] you in certain types of rooms And I think we dip wheat trip And I really believe this to be true about her mom. So I believe that she talks

— [119:13.160 --> 119:21.960] to her mom I think her mom knows some of the dad secret. They know some shit I don't I don't like the thought that someone has a lot of money so they know shit. It's putting wealth

— [119:21.960 --> 119:30.200] in. I agree. I said access. Praise, access, whatever. There's mad rich people that are not very bright. They just were intuitive

— [119:30.320 --> 119:38.500] and ingenious in some type of operation. So like a whole bunch of very rich people in a room doesn't mean necessarily to me that they have some secret meaning of life

— [119:38.500 --> 119:46.560] or anything else. I agree with that. It could be a bunch of rich, stupid people in a room saying dumb shit. Can the room give me 3 people that are very rich

— [119:46.560 --> 119:54.660] and dumb? I'm not doing that. What's where we rich? Almost said it, it's gonna be hard. Donald Trump. It's not. Cause we say that a lot and I believe that.

— [119:54.660 --> 120:02.700] It's gonna be hard. But what does dumb mean? What's rich? See, all right, I'm done, I'm clocked out. We gotta do that. It's so annoying. That's what I'm saying. What side of skill we got? I don't like smart, and I

— [120:02.700 --> 120:10.800] don't like leaving people smart or dumb for that reason, because to me it's always about context. Donald Trump. See, and I don't think that's true. You got a couple dollars. I don't think

— [120:10.800 --> 120:19.160] that's true. I think he's dumb. I think he's stupid. And this was my point that I made when we was having a conversation before about, Angela, right? You know what we're talking about. Have y'all heard him talk? You could be smart

— [120:19.160 --> 120:27.200] in some area. Yeah. And you could be a total fucking neanderthal in other areas. That don't mean you dumb. Right. And some people like the

— [120:27.200 --> 120:35.380] analogy I gave, you could be a brain surgeon and know nothing about finance. That means you not stupid, my nigga. You just are not knowledgeable in that particular facet of life.

— [120:35.380 --> 120:43.580] That don't mean you stupid. You could be an entrepreneur and know absolutely nothing about space. I would love to. You could be a boxer and can read. I would love to hear what

— [120:43.580 --> 120:52.220] topic that Donald Trump has ever spoken on, what things that he's ever taken place in. Investing in real estate. Real estate and investing. Okay,

— [120:52.220 --> 121:00.280] yeah, we just have to agree to disagree. So I will also make a distinction. How much failure that motherfucker had, he learned from all the fucked up ass and all the mistakes he made.

— [121:00.280 --> 121:08.460] He's a bum, his father. That's what you learn from. His father had. What you learn from a mother. But let's really talk, Fuck it. The father was in the real estate. So you're talking about somebody, your father basically

— [121:08.460 --> 121:16.740] laid the blueprint. He switched it up because the father was in residential ghetto shit. He got a mental. Right? But still, if y'all had a dad that was in real estate, When

— [121:16.740 --> 121:24.760] you started, would you have that many bankruptcies? Would you fuck up as much as he did? That boy is dumb. He's an idiot. He made bad decisions.

— [121:25.260 --> 121:33.260] He shouldn't have gotten to Lanny City because it was a bad idea. Bankruptcies are good. Bankruptcies are great business decisions. Because what

— [121:33.260 --> 121:41.520] it allowed him to do was not pay his vendors not pay the contractors Not pay all of these all the good people of Jersey But

— [121:41.520 --> 121:49.520] your points will take thank you. That's why you clean it up Yo But again from a business perspective because I think it's weasel shit But from a business perspective

— [121:49.560 --> 121:57.600] if I can run up 300 million dollars worth of debt and then file a document that says, yo, I'm bankrupt now, and I don't have to pay $300 million a

— [121:57.600 --> 122:05.860] debt. That's a great business decision that He was taught. So his father, and I don't like Donald Trump, and it sound like I'm capable of being objective. If my father

— [122:05.860 --> 122:13.900] left me $2 million, $3 million, that's a head start. And I took that 2 or $3 million and turned it into

— [122:13.900 --> 122:21.940] $500 million or 1000000000 dollars or $2 billion, you can't say that I'm dumb. Cause there's a lot of motherfuckers that leave their

— [122:21.940 --> 122:30.260] kids money and they do nothing with it. They squander it. I just read an article about homeboy from a different world. Ron, Dwayne Wayne's

— [122:30.260 --> 122:38.300] man. His father left him mad bread. They said that nigga ran through the bread and squandered everything. So it takes a certain level of intelligence and navigating the

— [122:38.300 --> 122:46.560] New York City versus the mob and all that shit and gambling to get where he got. And I just feel the opposite. The bankruptcy probably was the wrong example.

— [122:46.560 --> 122:54.640] I feel like for a person to have a head start like your father give you a loan and have that record in real estate and when you look if you really look at his past his start

— [122:54.640 --> 123:02.800] in real estate I just feel like he's stupid like he he makes bad decisions even how many businessmen that make great money with a guy into politics that was stupid. Him even

— [123:02.800 --> 123:10.880] saying let me be the president made no fucking sense that was only a power play. His family they say on

— [123:10.880 --> 123:18.960] record has made 1000000000 dollars every month that he's been the president. And close me out You close me out. So you can't now say that that's bad decision making, getting

— [123:18.960 --> 123:26.980] into politics, because it gets me the access to do other shit and be around other people and be in other rooms that I could mask my real

— [123:26.980 --> 123:35.100] goals in politics. On to, because we still not leaving music, On to an argument that I feel like we've

— [123:35.100 --> 123:43.320] had up here a bunch, but it's come up again. So I'll ask you guys again. Jay-Z versus The Field

— [123:43.900 --> 123:51.940] in a versus. He loses. Does Jay-Z audio, I mean, I feel like it's old audio. It is, it is. I don't know why this is a fucking

— [123:51.940 --> 124:00.060] thing again. Because of the verses. Because the verses is back. And now they trying to coax Jay-Z to be in the verses. It makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised

— [124:00.060 --> 124:08.100] If Tim put it up. Swiss knows Jay-Z would never do a verse. And Timbaland knows Jay-Z would never do a verse. Still gets more verses talk going. But now it gets more verses talk.

— [124:08.100 --> 124:16.560] So maybe an artist that may not be Jay-Z now put his hat in the ring. Right. OK, so I'm just going to ask you all quickly and hope that it doesn't go into like a full rage.

— [124:16.560 --> 124:24.680] I don't want to. It's only 2 people. There's more than 2. There's more than 2. I do it. Do it. Just say it. I think it's only Drake and Kanye. Got it.

— [124:24.680 --> 124:33.720] Freeze. I hate. We going to 20? Drake and Kanye. I heard you. I

— [124:33.720 --> 124:41.780] don't even want to say it in this room, honestly. Why? Because of y'all. I'm not going to fight with you. You're not going to say Gucci? No. He's

— [124:42.320 --> 124:50.380] going to say some West Coast dudes. You're not going to say Wayne? Sexy Red. Future's a hard time. Oh, future. Future's

— [124:50.380 --> 124:58.620] a very hard time for Jay-Z and the Versus. That's a weird matchup, but yeah. A very hard time. Very hard? Very hard time. Okay. I

— [124:58.620 --> 125:06.700] think for the matchups, that would actually make sense on paper from an entertainment standpoint. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, and Drake and Kendrick, probably. I'll put in the conversation.

— [125:06.700 --> 125:14.760] I'll put Kendrick. It would be a fight. I'm just saying people that could put a fight anybody that can You need somebody that can go wherever

— [125:14.760 --> 125:22.820] hope can go like mm-hmm. All right cool. You got you got a hard Barred up record I can go here. You got a hit record. I can go here. You got a hit record, I can go here. You got a girl record, I can go here.

— [125:22.820 --> 125:31.220] You got a clever, like you need, it's really a select, TI, another 1. I stay so sick of you as the New York Southern nigga. I'm not a New York,

— [125:31.340 --> 125:39.640] whatever. They are so tired of ice as the New York Southern guy. Don't tell me what they think about me. I don't care. I'm being me. If you just be saying Southern shit. I don't know the future.

— [125:39.640 --> 125:47.720] Fam. Wait, T.I., wait, you saying, wait, hold up. I mute up, mute up. I just said I'm not saying names because I wasn't doing it with y'all. And you said you wasn't gonna fight with me. You said that with Future and I didn't

— [125:47.720 --> 125:55.900] fight with you. I said names. I said I only wanna say this because I don't wanna fight with y'all. You're not saying with your whole dick not tuck that

— [125:55.900 --> 126:03.960] T.I. Does anything with Jay-Z. I'm saying- And this is why this conversation is nuts. I'm saying that it's- 20's a lot of songs. It's a

— [126:03.960 --> 126:12.420] lot of songs. And somebody that can go wherever- Are you saying that T.I. Is 1 of those people? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. Stamp it. Yes.

— [126:12.600 --> 126:20.680] Ice. I don't care that y'all don't agree. TI don't want it for Jason. I love TI. I love TI. TI don't

— [126:20.680 --> 126:28.900] want 20 for Jason. All right, so next topic. Go listen to it, old man. I would say part of it is also- Can I go to sleep? Part of it, I think, is generational. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I said so I can go to sleep. Pop it, you know. Audio night quill. Pop it. All right, shut up. Pop

— [126:28.900 --> 126:37.020] it. No, y'all want me, right? Pop it, you know, right? I see

— [126:37.020 --> 126:45.260] it. I see it. I was chillin'. I tried to chill. Bring the world ninja out. Almost there. Food dragon fly chose 1. Bring the world ninja out. Bring the

— [126:45.260 --> 126:53.280] world ninja out. Go ahead Mark. All I was gonna say was. Buddy know all the silk to shock. Every last 1 of them. You gonna go to sleep when the world is yours come on.

— [126:53.280 --> 127:01.400] When the world is mine come on. The fuck outta here. Go ahead Mark. All I was gonna say was- But he know all the silk the shark. Every last 1 of them. You gonna go to sleep when the world is yours, come on. When the world is mine, come on. Get the fuck outta here. Go ahead, Mark. All I was gonna say is I think a little bit of his generation, I don't think nobody gets Hove out of there, but when I talk to

— [127:01.400 --> 127:09.480] people, like when I talk to like my kids, or people of that generation, they think nobody gets Drake out of there. And so I think Drake's 20 does match Hov's 20 if you're

— [127:09.480 --> 127:17.520] 25 years old. For me, it doesn't. So that's the toughest out for me. The toughest out from our generation, I think is Ye. Because Ye is also gonna bring in stuff

— [127:17.520 --> 127:25.660] that he produced, and I think that just makes it a tougher matchup, but I take hope over everybody in the end, in the end of the verses. I take Jay-Z over everybody. Hope is the goal.

— [127:25.660 --> 127:33.740] I think only 2 people can stand on the stage, and that's Kanye and Drake. I think everybody else is gonna fall short. Like, I don't, Future got some bangers, but you said he got

— [127:33.740 --> 127:42.040] barred up records. I don't see nothing where Future could sit down and start put his favorite lyrical album record out and Jay-Z's gonna... So

— [127:42.040 --> 127:50.280] I would have to again and I would have to go with 1 of my other Trump cards to play against that. That's all. If we bring it back, if we do the versus is coming back, we also

— [127:50.280 --> 127:58.520] need to bring back more like celebrity boxing matches. Like I don't get as excited about a versus as I get

— [127:58.520 --> 128:06.740] the thought of like Judge Mathis and Judge Joe Brown fighting. Like I would love to see that. See I don't want to cause these niggas, when I watch these celebrities they

— [128:06.740 --> 128:14.960] like. I would pay for it. I'd pay, nah what? Or MC Shan and Will. Facts, shit like that. I would love to see Joe Brown and Judge

— [128:14.960 --> 128:23.000] Mathis, And I want them to argue like what the battle rappers do first and then rumble. I just want to beat this shit out of Joe Brown. No for sure Judge Mathis. He's 1 of my least favorite people

— [128:23.000 --> 128:31.700] in the world. Joe Brown can't fuck with Judge Mathis. I want to fight some of you podcasters too. I ain't gonna lie. Yeah we can definitely do the pod fight. I'm with that. On God. On

— [128:31.700 --> 128:39.880] God. Set it up. Seriously. I know y'all gonna think I'm joking cause I'm partying. Set it up! There are a few podcasters that I would not mind putting

— [128:39.880 --> 128:48.000] this shit on and going to a park somewhere and beating the absolute dog shit out of them just cause of your style of partying. Me and Joe back to back is a scary sight.

— [128:48.000 --> 128:56.340] How many on your list? It ain't a lot that I want to do that with. 3 or 4. That's only 2. No it's not. No it's not.

— [128:56.720 --> 129:05.440] I know 2. I was trying to. I know 2. Off the top. You gotta get beat up just cuz that's sorry sorry sorry

— [129:05.900 --> 129:13.980] homeboy Duke here another 1 put him in there and I'm not saying that it's beef cuz niggas hear this shit and take it the wrong way I like but come

— [129:13.980 --> 129:22.420] to Central Park There's a few of y'all that y'all can come to the park and get pause put on y'all for play play or pause put on me

— [129:22.660 --> 129:30.860] That's what I'm saying, yeah, yeah, yeah Right? Yeah That'd be great You might, you might Let's put it together That's my other podcast, I'm with that shit No? I'm with

— [129:30.860 --> 129:39.300] that shit No, cause then I gotta speak to them No, how your people speak That's gross How your people speak. You ain't gotta talk to nobody. But the niggas I follow,

— [129:39.380 --> 129:48.500] I'm following strangers that are by the monkey bars in the head gear, Some of them in New York on cement. Like

— [129:48.500 --> 129:56.860] I'm following sickos. It seems to be a budding business also of just meeting up, scrapping.

— [129:57.440 --> 130:05.740] When it's over, it's over. Like it's a rest. It's a real thing. It's not me just talking shit. I've seen but I think that that could be really profitable. All the

— [130:05.740 --> 130:14.580] podcast is we can even donate some of the money to our favorite charity. Do Turkey Drive. Yeah, we can fight at the Turkey Drive. I fight some of them. You

— [130:14.580 --> 130:22.620] got a list Mona 1 of these niggas break your wings. And you podcasters look flabby and sick. I quit smoking and I'm in the gym 3 to 4 times a week. You niggas look flabby and sick. I'm

— [130:22.620 --> 130:31.160] with all the shit. I was beating you niggas up out the gym before. I'm totally with this now. I trust my hands. I'm sorry.

— [130:31.300 --> 130:39.340] I'm sorry you don't. I'm sorry you don't. I'm sorry you don't. I'm sorry you don't. Line this shit up. Man, you need to put the fucking gear on. How many do you have? You ain't say nothing. On the

— [130:39.340 --> 130:47.480] top of my head, probably 4. You got a new dog. You got 4? Yeah, 4. But I was 1, I was, oh, I want that bitch,

— [130:47.660 --> 130:56.020] man. It is now you think. I've never said her name on this platform. Yo, I love Morn. I really love all of y'all.

— [130:56.680 --> 131:04.840] I do. All of you. You guys are great. What else? What else? Diddy got his first assignment. Don't stop it. Diddy is in

— [131:04.840 --> 131:12.940] Fort Dix, like I told y'all he was gonna go. What you mean? No, no, I mean he got his first prison assignment inside of Dix. Oh, where he work at? He's in charge. He's in Dix? He's in Dix. He's in Fort

— [131:12.940 --> 131:21.020] Dix. And he's in charge of clothes. He's in charge of laundry. He's in laundry? Breaking news, Yeah, he's in laundry. That's surprising they would put him in laundry. Tell me why. I don't know, like

— [131:21.020 --> 131:29.060] Kim worked in the warden's office. She cleaned the warden's office. They kind of keep them separate. Laundry is like a basic job, like the kitchen. Everybody be there. It's like gym

— [131:29.060 --> 131:37.160] pop type shit. So maybe he's in laundry, but they got him like just in the corner doing something. They're not going to just sit him on a line folding with niggas, they're not. Or maybe he's trying to blend in. I hear

— [131:37.160 --> 131:45.380] a lot of... You don't have that choice. Are you saying because of... You understand what I'm saying? Like sometimes you go directly in a hole. It's for your protection, really. But Fort Dix is a love.

— [131:45.380 --> 131:53.400] No, not in Fort Dix. Yeah. No, I'm just saying some situations you're directly in a hole, but I mean he's going a bit, I'm sure he's not in a hole. What, Fort Dix? I think it's

— [131:53.400 --> 132:01.580] a low. I don't think so, no. My dad cried for weeks when he took him out of Fort Dix. It's a medium at least. It's levels inside of Fort Dix. Yeah, it's more than 1, I think. If you're in Fort Dix,

— [132:01.580 --> 132:09.640] it's a luxury and it's a privilege and thank God before they ship you out to somewhere else They said they got them cleaning clothes is what they're directly with the city's cleaning If you clean in the

— [132:09.640 --> 132:17.720] floor with your tongue in Fort Dix and somebody that has to do a sentence You should be happy in New Jersey. No, I'm telling you something with your tongue Yeah, it could have

— [132:17.720 --> 132:25.840] great in for It could have gone a different way for you. Listen. Free you. I know a lot of y'all out

— [132:25.840 --> 132:33.840] there don't fuck with Amanda Seals. I love Amanda Seals. I love Amanda Seals. She's my friend, my dear friend, my sister, my

— [132:33.840 --> 132:42.080] homie. I like her. What do you know? I felt bad when I was, Amanda Seals done said some stupid shit before, did I disagree with it?

— [132:42.080 --> 132:50.280] She has. However. I think she's got a good intention to. I feel like the people don't know, and she may not know, but I really fuck with Amanda Seals,

— [132:50.280 --> 132:58.480] but I don't say it enough. I'm glad you said that. People don't say it enough. And my last time speaking to her, she expressed something like that

— [132:59.000 --> 133:07.400] to me. Like, yo, dawg, we go back to fucking college days. Like nigga, when they talking about me, like if anybody understand it should be you. And I think she's absolutely right about that.

— [133:08.100 --> 133:16.120] So shout out to Amanda Seals. I love you. I hope you're doing well. Love you. And boy, I laughed for about 45

— [133:16.120 --> 133:24.160] minutes. I just clipped it a minute ago for the other day. I didn't hear the clip. Well, I got to hear this. Okay. Okay. This is great. This is great. Cause we don't normally talk about

— [133:24.160 --> 133:32.320] Amanda Seals, but I had to write this down. I got a bunch of bullshit topics here. And this is 1 of them. So Amanda Seals went on a rant about a movie that Kiki Palmer is

— [133:32.320 --> 133:40.740] executive producing. Okay. How do they, oh no I can't, that's a set up question. What y'all think about Kiki Palmer?

— [133:41.140 --> 133:49.280] I fuck with her. I think she has a great attitude. I don't know enough to make a judgment. I've been through some shit with Kiki, I rock with her. I rock with her. I think she's a winner too. She's consistent, cause you know,

— [133:49.280 --> 133:57.340] that's a kill and a be. Yeah, shout out to her and her beautiful mama. Yeah, she definitely comes off like she's a nice person or she's like, you know, easy to be around. I never met

— [133:57.340 --> 134:05.580] her. Kiki Palmer is the executive producer on a film that is putting, that is showcasing and

— [134:05.580 --> 134:14.180] highlighting an Asian woman's experience going to an HBCU. Yeah. This sounds like it could be funny. Is it comedy? Yeah.

— [134:14.180 --> 134:22.200] It's about the executive producing about the Asian girl. Wait, and before I play this, that's why we need

— [134:22.200 --> 134:30.240] Amanda Seals. Yeah. Regardless of what you think about her, and I mean, I know about that bullshit she said, she walked back,

— [134:30.240 --> 134:38.260] we all for that, but this is why we need a man to seals cuz all y'all are just gonna say I love Kiki Palmer She's great.

— [134:38.540 --> 134:48.040] I don't know that about her. She's amazing man Listen fuck out of here About

— [134:48.040 --> 134:56.140] the the Asian girl at a HBC you like what are we talking about? Why is that a movie that needs to be made? She's right. Black community needs a leader

— [134:56.140 --> 135:05.500] like me than Morton? No. What is the black community? No. I

— [135:05.500 --> 135:17.600] disagree with this 1. Well, I say no, I don't. She goes on to explain herself. No, I don't want to lead the black community. No.

— [135:18.780 --> 135:28.400] Come on. I'm interested in community that is about collective liberation. That's what I'm about. Collective

— [135:28.480 --> 135:36.560] liberation for all. You know the Black Panthers, like they had a 10 point program and within that 10 point

— [135:36.560 --> 135:49.120] program I believe the first 1 was power to the people, all power to all people. And

— [135:49.120 --> 135:58.040] she goes on and on and on so I don't need to play this but her first statement of Why do we need why do we need this? Who

— [135:58.040 --> 136:06.240] asked for this and why is this the story that we're telling? I think we're all amazing points that need to be said. And somebody need to say it. And all y'all pussy, so y'all won't,

— [136:06.240 --> 136:14.460] so we need Amanda Seals to say it. But in the movie, the girl's adopted. So she's raised by black parents. That's an important

— [136:14.460 --> 136:22.520] caveat. She's raised by black parents. So her experience growing up is that, so

— [136:22.520 --> 136:30.600] in college, she still wants that to continue, hence the Asian girl ending up at the HBCU. If this is not a big deal and

— [136:30.600 --> 136:38.760] a nothing burger to you guys, please feel free to say it now. It is not a nothing burger. I think it's interesting. The conversation

— [136:39.300 --> 136:47.360] and I agree with Amanda 1000 percent on this. You know, there are 1000000 stories to tell in Hollywood. They

— [136:47.360 --> 136:55.680] don't all have to be told though. And when we have such a small slice of the pie anyway, to devote that much energy,

— [136:55.680 --> 137:04.680] I mean, there's a lot of great HBCU stories we could tell. To tell a story about the 1 Asian person raised by black people who go to HBCU, seems

— [137:04.680 --> 137:12.780] like an extravagant waste of time to me. It's another American slap in the face to black people, to me, and then they always go get 1 of us to fucking

— [137:13.280 --> 137:21.380] walk the dog to us. Like, nah, nah. And that's the thing, you know what it makes me think of? It makes me think of the whole like, you hit the nae nae and then we in the comments

— [137:21.380 --> 137:29.620] like you could come to the cookout Billy. It's just, we just always giving where we got, we ushering or we helping or we assisting. I just think

— [137:29.620 --> 137:37.860] that Today's climate is just not the time. I just think it's bad timing. I don't know if it was ever gonna be good timing to do some shit because hourly we think about

— [137:37.860 --> 137:45.920] it, it's probably funny. It's probably, you know, like funny to watch. That's what I'm saying, our gift is our curse. Black people gift is just being welcoming and loving and being warm. And

— [137:45.920 --> 137:53.940] the curse is being welcoming and loving. Because when they go put y'all in the Asian movie, they're gonna make you the black boyfriend that they brought home to the household that ain't

— [137:53.940 --> 138:02.060] familiar with black people. That's the movie that you're gonna be in. And they're not making that movie. They're not, that's the thing. It's not even coming out. It's not even coming out.

— [138:02.200 --> 138:11.210] That's not true. They make that movie sometimes and it comes off the way that we think it comes off. What I'm saying is Asians ain't making it. That movie might get made. Right. That's

— [138:11.210 --> 138:19.380] what I'm saying. Like we're a wounded people and we've been through so much and black people have been a despised people for so long that we are so happy when people fuck with us. Oh my God. That

— [138:19.380 --> 138:27.620] sometimes we, like it's like, oh, they fuck us. This Asian person, this white person fuck with us. So then we- That we lease our experience to them. Yes, right, exactly.

— [138:27.620 --> 138:35.740] And I hate that that happens. And we abandon our own. We not only lease our experience, like when they did integration, And

— [138:35.740 --> 138:43.780] now we could go eat at the white people restaurant. They feed you at the back door. You could have walked in the front door of the black restaurant. You'll go eat food from the white man's back door when

— [138:43.780 --> 138:51.900] they spitting in the shit. Just to say you ate from the white man restaurant. That shit is insanity. But I'm not, I don't feel the same way about the movie. Yeah, and

— [138:51.900 --> 139:00.060] to be clear, I don't know what Kiki's role is in this movie. Executive producer. That's all that's reported. For film, but as y'all know, executive producer can mean everything from

— [139:00.060 --> 139:08.300] You paid for it, you got it shot, although usually producers, the producer in movies is more important than executive producer. Do y'all wanna play the trailer? Is that important at all?

— [139:08.300 --> 139:16.500] Let's play it. I wanna hear it. I think all of that stuff matters, because I'm not against the movie. Okay, I

— [139:16.500 --> 139:24.640] know I got some explaining to do. I got it. Let's start with the elephant in the room. Yes, I'm nation. Yes, my

— [139:24.640 --> 139:32.660] family's glad. And yes, I've always been hard to miss. This is Coco. Her name, Coco.

— [139:32.660 --> 139:41.140] Why her name, Coco? I'm seeing it. Once you embrace yourself and the opportunities here, I'm sure that you will find W has so much power for her. I need to

— [139:41.140 --> 139:49.240] help her not to hell. All right, no, no, no, no. And let's be real, right? If you are the Asian girl and you are raised

— [139:49.240 --> 139:57.240] by black people, what do you think at that time where you like, because there's a lot of kids that are adopted when they 18 and 20, that's when they go looking for their

— [139:57.240 --> 140:05.280] people. So why wouldn't you want to get into your culture being that you've been surrounded by niggas for so long. Every- Because the HBCU is lit. True, but in reality- It's not your culture.

— [140:05.280 --> 140:13.460] I can see people. It's not your culture. Every, what's not your culture? It's not your culture. I'm saying- This is all I know. If I was raised in a black neighborhood by black people-

— [140:13.480 --> 140:21.560] Like you were. And for 20 years, Yeah. Well, I'm saying to discover what you came from. That's not everybody's. When I say to you that

— [140:21.560 --> 140:29.620] a lot of people get adopted, sometimes they go around with a red age because you're away from your parents, now you can make your own decisions, right? A lot of times adoption papers, they're

— [140:29.620 --> 140:37.740] sealed until this nigga just fucked me. Y'all can't see this, but Amani just walked into the room. He gotta come here. Dressed like Michael

— [140:37.740 --> 140:45.980] Jackson. Just walk on set for 1 second, because I don't want people to think. This nigga just fucked me up with this fucking hair. Can you just step over here for 1 second, sir? Yo, please, yo, please. That's synthetic hair, too.

— [140:46.080 --> 140:54.220] MJ would never. No, that's his hair. You look good, he looks like something. Oh,

— [140:54.220 --> 141:02.460] nice to see you. I love you. You're talking. I'm over 16. I love you. Oh, shit. I

— [141:02.460 --> 141:11.020] can't, I don't even, I'm done. I can't. I don't even. Imane, you really, I like how you, you really like enjoying your 40s, yo. Like, look at you.

— [141:11.140 --> 141:19.160] He really is. He looks like you wanted to do this your whole life. He made the jacket his all day. You look like you wanted to do this when you was at, What's the name of my house? Neverland. Neverland. You look like you had this in

— [141:19.160 --> 141:27.540] your closet your whole life No, we all did we all did dress up we all did dress up check my Instagram I put up a picture

— [141:29.120 --> 141:37.120] Go ahead Does anybody have any more to say on this? I'm good on this movie. I hate that her name is Gogo also. Fish out of water stories are

— [141:37.120 --> 141:45.260] a central trope in Hollywood. We love stories where somebody's somewhere they're not supposed to be. So I get that as a theme. Again, but When

— [141:45.260 --> 141:53.440] the fish out of water is here, I worry that the joke becomes the HBCU, that there's Asian girls in this place with these people, and we become the butt of the joke.

— [141:53.460 --> 142:01.480] Or we get exoticized and it becomes, look at me in this place, but I can make it because I can dance like them or talk like them. I just don't like what it does when there's so much beauty in HBCUs, and then a

— [142:01.480 --> 142:09.520] moment where HBCUs are in desperate need of funding, getting underfunded and need support, I don't know if this is the story I would want to tell about. Yeah, like you

— [142:09.520 --> 142:18.000] could tell the story of Deon Sanders. I don't know if it's a story. You could tell the story of Deon Sanders being a dad to his black quarterback at Jackson

— [142:18.120 --> 142:26.140] State. Like there are some great feel good HBCU stories that you could tell without having to go get the little Asian lady. Or young drug dealer from

— [142:26.140 --> 142:34.340] New York goes down the morning. What is, you like this Asian lady story. You keep making faces, shaking your head. I don't know the story, so I don't know if I like it or not. I'm open to going to see them. The premise of it.

— [142:34.440 --> 142:42.540] I don't know the premise. We didn't give the plot. We need you down with us, nigga. I don't know. I'm not saying I'm against it or for it. He went to HBCU as a non. I mean, like

— [142:42.540 --> 142:52.160] he had the same name. As a non-black. As a non-black. I was not a part of, what was the name of your cult? See,

— [142:52.260 --> 143:01.460] they always go to the cult. The HWCU. I'm not opposed to either 1. I

— [143:01.460 --> 143:09.740] won't be saying that. Listen, I know it's not a topic that we normally broach up here, but I thought it was compelling and interesting, so I wanted to at least ask y'all about it. Let's stay on the topic

— [143:09.740 --> 143:17.860] of licensing your likeness to people and being a fish out of water. Let's get to Adidas. Pharrell put

— [143:17.860 --> 143:25.940] out the jellyfish sneaker a few months ago. Freddie Gibbs came up here warm in front of my face when I didn't have a pair. I told my girl for months that I wanted some jellyfishes. She still ain't going on

— [143:25.940 --> 143:34.860] StockX and give me the jellyfishes. So now we're having a jellyfish conversation. Months after the jellyfish came out and I still don't have it, that's unacceptable for me. However. You

— [143:34.860 --> 143:42.960] giving her the jellyfish, niggas, you getting? Oh, shit. Nah, you gotta slot him. You gotta slot him, you gotta slot

— [143:42.960 --> 143:51.380] him, yo. Nah. That's the problem. Y'all even. Oh, nah,

— [143:51.580 --> 143:59.950] son. Wow. You my man, you my man, dog. Yo, you violated. You my man, son. Wow. Oh

— [144:00.120 --> 144:08.340] That was a good 1 That was a good 1. It's up for you for the rest of November. We good. Go home for November? God damn. I don't let go.

— [144:08.340 --> 144:16.640] It's the worst. November ain't even starting yet. I don't let go. Yo, it's not even November yet. He got that off. And he got off that other 1 a

— [144:16.640 --> 144:24.800] couple weeks ago, Pan Holes Daily, what'd he say? Oh, the PhD Pan Holes Daily. I didn't forget about that. You see how you remember some shit?

— [144:24.800 --> 144:33.420] That's a niggas crazy. I didn't forget about that. And if niggas cash out you a little something on the side, Like don't Instagram it. That's

— [144:33.420 --> 144:43.620] crazy. Somebody did that to you? Not to me, I'm in love. Okay. Yeah. Ain't

— [144:43.620 --> 144:51.630] that part of philanthropy? Yeah. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. Seriously. There's some other things in this equation that

— [144:51.630 --> 145:01.080] were probably not a part of philanthropy. See, y'all changing what words mean again. I'm looking up right now. Me too. If I donate to your cause. What's the cause? Ain't that philanthropy? Whatever

— [145:01.080 --> 145:11.660] the cause may be what's the cause free the world you didn't have to donate to nigga you did it Anyway

— [145:12.420 --> 145:20.720] Adidas and Pharrell put out the jellyfish sneaker a few months ago Limited peers of limited

— [145:20.760 --> 145:28.840] peers were available and it went in the aftermarket for astronomical prices right. Not even 4 months

— [145:28.840 --> 145:36.880] later they are back with the squid sneaker which is the jellyfish sneaker at an affordable price.

— [145:38.360 --> 145:46.720] Nothing wrong with you doing that but I think this is what Kanye was talking about when everybody was calling that exactly what he was. You're taking all of my designs,

— [145:46.900 --> 145:56.240] you're taking my sauce and my swag, you're repurposing it and reducing the price, you're fucking me up out of here. And you own it so you get to do what you want. Put

— [145:56.240 --> 146:04.280] Kanye to the side for a second. Tell me how this, well no, actually, I know how it benefits Adidas. What do you mean?

— [146:04.620 --> 146:12.940] Yeah. Is this a case of Adidas stepping on their own dope? Yes, yes. Or would you guys have done the exact same thing with the exact same timetable?

— [146:13.160 --> 146:21.760] I think Adidas did 2 things, and this goes back to- And this squid sneaker looks like the poor version of the jellyfish. Look, this

— [146:21.760 --> 146:30.060] is similar to the argument you were having where the people behind the scenes are dropping the ball because they're not relatable and they're

— [146:30.060 --> 146:38.100] not related to the culture. When those Kanye's were dropping, those shits were spreading like wildfire. That's a fact. They dumbed down those Kanye's and made

— [146:38.100 --> 146:46.120] them at a better price point thinking that it was gonna do something. We haven't heard about Adidas since fucking Kanye left. Nobody's out here wearing

— [146:46.120 --> 146:54.180] Adidas. A6 then took over, New Balance is going crazy. Salkenese are going crazy. Motherfuckers threw them Yeezys in the closet and never wore them

— [146:54.180 --> 147:02.200] shits again. That's why I don't understand the move. So I don't- Because of what you're saying. But I think that the numbers might represent something else. So now you got Pharrell, who's tied to Louis

— [147:02.200 --> 147:10.680] Vuitton. He comes up with an amazing sneaker and you don't even give yourself 6789 months of this.

— [147:10.940 --> 147:19.020] You come right back 3 months later and put out the same sneaker for cheap. But what might've happened. How does it behoove you? I'm about to tell you what might have

— [147:19.020 --> 147:28.820] happened because we don't know It's greed. It's greed and short-term short-term success, but in the long run No,

— [147:28.820 --> 147:37.020] hello, let me finish. Go ahead. Go ahead. So let's just say the Kanye's were $300, right? But now we put out these Fanias and we selling

— [147:37.020 --> 147:45.200] them for 100, but we doing crazy volume. I made my money. So from a number standpoint, and you only looking at analytics, it was profitable. So

— [147:45.200 --> 147:53.280] now when Pharrell comes and puts out the jellyfishes, nigga we gon' put the squids out, or the octopus or whatever other shit at $80. And

— [147:53.280 --> 148:01.280] if we sell a zillion of them at $80, then it still worked for them from an analytical standpoint. They just not popping in culture. Let me play Beamer just cause

— [148:01.280 --> 148:09.320] I love Beamer. Jellyfish, you fi- Pee. Nadita's just cockblocked for Rell's Jellyfish. You finally make the first skateboard

— [148:09.400 --> 148:18.060] piece sneaker that actually mattered since it's NMDs. And then what you do, you make damn near an identical duplicate called the Adistar XL

— [148:18.060 --> 148:26.160] BBL or whatever for half the price. It's like watching your collab getting bootlegged by your own kid. Oh, I don't know who's more misguided,

— [148:26.600 --> 148:35.400] this strategy or that Nike complex sneaker of the year list. Look, every product has a life cycle. You got height, growth, maturity, decline.

— [148:35.660 --> 148:44.020] Smart brands stretch it. Adidas is collapsing it. Between 2016 and 2018, they released like 160 colorways of the NMD.

— [148:44.120 --> 148:52.440] And yes, revenues spiked and then it went straight to the outlets. Translation, they milked it to death. This is a discipline issue. You're chasing short-term

— [148:52.500 --> 149:00.560] revenue at the expense of long-term heat. And so it's like we're witnessing a case study in poor product pacing. You're training the customer

— [149:00.620 --> 149:08.780] to wait for the discount instead of buying into the dream. There's a better way, like maybe design some distance so that

— [149:08.780 --> 149:17.100] the general release doesn't look like the collab and then wait 9 to 12 months before you do a take down. That's how you scale without self-sabotage.

— [149:17.960 --> 149:26.100] Now, cousins, is Adidas actually building equity or are they burning it for quarterly gains? That is Bima Williams on Instagram,

— [149:26.280 --> 149:34.640] B-I-M-M-A. He is amazing. He is absolutely amazing. He knows what he's saying. He's great at this. Follow him if you love this type of shit. He's absolutely

— [149:34.720 --> 149:42.940] right He may be the only thing I would have to imagine they have some more details on analytics than we do exactly More people are buying like he's

— [149:42.940 --> 149:51.020] saying you'll project it. I'm sorry I'm saying if I'm looking at this like alright cool. We put these out. We got everybody going crazy now We're gonna flood

— [149:51.020 --> 149:59.100] and come back with a cheaper version and people gonna buy them, buy their projections. Why wouldn't you do that? He's saying, yo, you're giving, you are

— [149:59.100 --> 150:07.400] taking short term gains over long term heat. A lot of these motherfuckers don't care about heat or cultural relevance

— [150:07.440 --> 150:16.860] or any of that other shit they are caring about profit. That's why it's important what you're saying because we have that's the same conversation that we have in music. Yeah.

— [150:17.480 --> 150:25.600] Yeah. But in shoes I guess. It's the same exact conversation. It's the same exact conversation. The people in the backboard rooms don't give a fuck

— [150:25.600 --> 150:33.840] about what y'all talking about. Don't care about your classic... Sir is gonna take 3 to 5 years to put out his quality music and

— [150:33.840 --> 150:41.840] issues. AI Sleeper is going to model, sir, and put out the fast food version of that every 3 months for the people

— [150:41.840 --> 150:49.840] that maybe can't wait or can't afford that because it's art at a premium. But art should be at a premium. I think

— [150:49.840 --> 150:58.440] art gets tricky when you're talking about, I guess you can make the same argument from music to some degree, a very hard line product. Bro.

— [151:00.060 --> 151:08.300] There's a value in exclusivity. Agreed. What is the point of, I'm sorry. Like, who is that? Ferrari, you're not going to see the Ferrari

— [151:08.300 --> 151:16.840] commercial on TV. This is Pharrell, who just had the clips at the Vatican, is changing the way Louis

— [151:16.860 --> 151:25.240] fucking does things, especially for black people, how it's represented, you cannot cheapen what he is and what he means to

— [151:25.240 --> 151:33.500] culture by taking his design and selling it for crackhead prices. Yes, you may make more money, but long-term, is it

— [151:33.500 --> 151:41.660] wise, especially for a brand that's so tied to culture, for a brand that got their pop from Run DMC, for a brand that every 10

— [151:41.660 --> 151:49.840] years you come right back to us to rely on us to get you lit. I think it's a horrible idea. That's all. I'm shocked they did it. I only brought this up because I'm super shocked

— [151:49.840 --> 151:57.960] at this. I'm shocked. What, I'm sorry, what is the point of doing a deal with somebody like, like for real, everything's talking about for real. What is the point

— [151:57.960 --> 152:06.020] of doing something like that with him just to do that? Like What's the point? Is that, is the whole point to create this clamor and create this thing

— [152:06.020 --> 152:14.060] where, you know, it's this thing that you can't afford and we go do the cheap version and make this rush of money? Yes. I don't know, that's stupid to me. I mean, I guess money wise is great, but it's

— [152:14.060 --> 152:22.080] just stupid. The goal is dollars and cents. And I created a demand by working with Pharrell while he's fish grease hot and we got a sneaker that's fish

— [152:22.080 --> 152:30.100] grease hot and now I know I can cut the price on that and flood the block with it no and make my money yeah but you're absolutely right in what

— [152:30.100 --> 152:39.080] you're saying but what you just said was the goal is dollars and cents. I am saying fundamentally, I think it's a mistake if

— [152:39.080 --> 152:47.100] it's only dollars and cents. You need to have more people in the C-suite. You need to have more people in the room. Fuck the people

— [152:47.100 --> 152:55.580] that's just gonna say, if we do X, Y, and Z, we will make more over the next 2 years. But we just spoke about how fucked up these companies are. We read about layoffs every day.

— [152:55.600 --> 153:03.840] Yeah. Like, yo, it is dollars and 6 right now. That's it. Y'all niggas are too optimistic. It's fucked up out there. Yo, it's companies out here laying niggas off that's not even doing

— [153:03.840 --> 153:12.280] bad. Like layoffs is the thing that you do. Amazon laid niggas off. 48, 000. I didn't wanna say them. UPS was 48, 000. I'm sorry.

— [153:12.280 --> 153:20.440] But I didn't wanna say them, but it's companies out here that are profitable, that are doing well, and they still laying niggas off because it can mean even more

— [153:20.440 --> 153:28.580] money so you looking at this for adidas shit like yo y'all are a Fuck it up in culture nigga. They dividend was

— [153:28.580 --> 153:36.900] 2 euros Like so if I got 1000000 she I don't give a fuck what you talk and what they do on purpose is We gonna make this dope ass sneaker

— [153:37.120 --> 153:45.400] Exclusive. Mm-hmm. We only put out 10, 000 of them create demand, but now we're gonna give y'all the B version That's just overpopulated in

— [153:45.400 --> 153:53.800] the store. So if you can't get the A version, you're gonna get the B version. I'm curious if- Dog, you have lost the office and sign that failed

— [153:53.940 --> 154:03.400] at the expense of they came from outer space. I don't know what that means, but- I'm talking TV metaphors right now. I

— [154:03.400 --> 154:11.440] just don't- Get 2 keys. If, if, if, if this is- I don't know how to make that make sense, but, but I understand what you're saying. I totally get

— [154:11.540 --> 154:19.939] it. I just don't know how to make sense of that in my head. Go ahead, Molly. If Ferrell would have said, look, listen, hey, we're doing this deal and just in case you niggas want some bullshit,

— [154:19.939 --> 154:28.340] y'all can't make no sneak that look like the 1 I just made and I need that to be part of the deal. So what y'all saying, they would have been refusing because that was always the long, long goal. Possibly, we don't know. Kanye

— [154:28.340 --> 154:36.340] got so mad at them niggas, he told them niggas, I want my own building where none of your people are. Yeah. Because they jacking my shit. I want my own

— [154:36.340 --> 154:44.380] building over here because y'all are taking my ideas, dumbing down my shit, and I'm not getting no money from that. Right. I've been stalking this house on

— [154:44.380 --> 154:52.420] Zillow for the last 2 years. It's a rendering. It was just pictures. Is this the shit Cory called me about? I don't know what Cory called

— [154:52.420 --> 155:00.520] you about. Oh, go ahead. You think I talked to Cory? But I've been stalking his house on Instagram. The other day

— [155:00.520 --> 155:08.560] I go to see the house. Oh you did go, okay. The land. No, he got sticks up. He got half of the outside up and

— [155:08.560 --> 155:16.720] it's just sticks. It's just wood. But I walked through it, right? And he had pictures for every room So you could see what was coming you could see what's

— [155:16.720 --> 155:25.100] going on. He said this house would be done by April but this this guy Who he was awesome, I wouldn't shout him out now, but he was absolutely

— [155:25.120 --> 155:33.260] awesome His family has been developing in the greater parts of New Jersey for 30 to 40 years. He's the son now, parents got

— [155:33.260 --> 155:41.640] older. He's taking over the business. He's making his name from doing really, really, really modern quality homes

— [155:41.720 --> 155:49.860] in places where all of the old money exists, Right? So I'm talking to him. That's why. And he's telling

— [155:49.860 --> 155:57.940] me about all this amazing shit. He got everything he needed to build this house came in already. I got my marble from over

— [155:57.940 --> 156:06.000] here. He's showing me the pictures. All These people I'm dealing with are creme de la creme, best of the besties. I fuck with how he was talking.

— [156:06.180 --> 156:14.280] So I started asking him about just some of the houses I've seen, right? And it was this $16 million house in Englewood that they eventually sold for

— [156:14.280 --> 156:22.280] $10 million that was all over TikTok. It was all glass. It was beautiful. And everybody that had a dime was going to see this house. And I say, yeah,

— [156:22.280 --> 156:30.820] did you go see such and such house? Because I went to see that house and before I could finish the sentence, he said, it's disgusting. It's horrible. You

— [156:30.820 --> 156:38.940] get these companies coming in that they're just gonna slap up some walls They're gonna take a short on everything in there. So the

— [156:38.940 --> 156:47.360] finishes are dusty. It's all garbage. It's like an influencer It's like an influencer garbage that you're paying And he's like if you're paying 10 million

— [156:47.360 --> 156:55.420] you paying 12 million 18 million for a fucking house You're not trying to walk in somewhere to finish this is done over here You can't even buy that a lot if

— [156:55.420 --> 157:03.660] you buy a lot Then they assume that they're not selling a lot without selling the house that's not built yet on. He was talking

— [157:03.660 --> 157:12.460] that shit and I was like, exactly. Cause in that house, everything was garbage. But if you don't know that it's garbage, if

— [157:12.460 --> 157:20.540] they're able to just put the bullshit sink and the bullshit this and the bullshit that, then there'll always be a market for it. That

— [157:20.540 --> 157:29.068] shouldn't impede with the people that enjoy quality. Yes. Well, the people that enjoy quality, that's not for them. That shouldn't impede with the people who have an eye, That's

— [157:29.068 --> 157:37.080] not for them. And an ear, and a hand for quality shit. So what I'm saying is you're losing your Ferrari audience

— [157:37.220 --> 157:45.440] because you want to put out the fucking, I can't say key because that's lit. No, you're not though. You're not. Yes you are. You are. You are losing

— [157:45.440 --> 157:53.880] them. It's go build a house over there. Tell me. Take it back to the Adidas shit. The person that wanted to spend the money

— [157:53.940 --> 158:02.240] got that sneaker. The original jellyfish. The 1 who could afford it that didn't blink at that price. The 1 who went on StockX, who

— [158:02.240 --> 158:10.240] didn't care about that price, got it. Now the other person who wanna look like I got it, but I couldn't afford it they're gonna get the beeline same thing with this company

— [158:10.240 --> 158:18.240] you're sacrificing this Seinfeld in the office for perfect strangers ice they putting out

— [158:18.240 --> 158:26.260] 90 different not 90 but let's say 8 different color ways of the real deal. So yes, Homeboy went out and got the orange ones

— [158:26.260 --> 158:34.340] at Freddie Gizwo up here. We got 8 other color ways of premium exclusive shit that you will never be able to sell because the niggas

— [158:34.340 --> 158:42.540] that want to buy that don't want to walk outside and see 800 cheap colorways of the shit they just paid for.

— [158:42.540 --> 158:50.560] Exactly. You're wrong. So they go get them. You don't want to go get them. No, I'm talking to Corey. Yo, so this is the point. There's an audience

— [158:50.660 --> 158:58.720] of people that Ferrari appeals to and then there's a wide audience of people that Honda appeal to they are not the same audience

— [158:59.000 --> 159:07.260] So I don't have to reach the Ferrari audience if I want to sell Hondas and vice versa. I don't have to reach the Honda audience if I'm selling Ferraris. That's why we don't see Ferrari

— [159:07.260 --> 159:15.340] commercials. Up, up, up, up, up. Let me finish Joe, I ain't got you worried. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. So when it comes to the house analogy, you are looking at the house from the perspective of

— [159:15.340 --> 159:23.580] a homeowner. The other people are looking at the house from a perspective of an investor and a developer. So the developer's bottom

— [159:23.580 --> 159:31.880] line is profit. You looking at it because I'm moving in this house so I want the best finishes that money can buy. These niggas say I want the best looking

— [159:31.880 --> 159:39.980] finishes that money can buy because my profit is my overall objective. And a lot of times when these niggas buy these high end houses, they get in here and they change shit

— [159:39.980 --> 159:48.260] anyway. They got enough money to change the marble anyway. This is the stock marble that we picked. They're going to get in here and change the shit anyway because they got enough bread.

— [159:48.260 --> 159:56.440] So if I could turn a $3 million, $4 million, $5 million profit, I'm not gonna make my profit 3.5 million to go get the marble from fucking

— [159:56.440 --> 160:04.740] flown in from Koisha. I don't give a fuck. So you talking about it from 2 totally different perspectives. You talking about the Honda Accord owner and the Ferrari owner.

— [160:04.860 --> 160:12.900] The, what's the jellyfishes? Are the Ferrari owners and they gonna pay whatever they gotta pay for that shit. If every word you said

— [160:12.900 --> 160:21.040] was true, then I agree with you. I only disagree because if Cam, if Toyota, actually

— [160:21.040 --> 160:29.480] it's true, Toyota right now, I saw it yesterday, is putting out a car that they feel like will rival the Bentley and the

— [160:29.520 --> 160:38.100] Wraith. Have you seen that shit? I showed a car, we didn't keep going. Shit's amazing. What I'm saying is, if that car comes out, it

— [160:38.100 --> 160:46.320] will affect how, let's call it, race drivers, feel about purchasing rapes. Yo, exclusive,

— [160:46.380 --> 160:54.600] we gotta bring back the value Come outside and it's 30 of

— [160:54.600 --> 161:02.680] you niggas in the Toyota Wraith The niggas gonna

— [161:02.680 --> 161:11.280] say it ain't this when you bought your Ferrari guess what you came in here and dissed? And dissed? You dissed Lamborghinis. When

— [161:11.280 --> 161:19.400] you bought your Ferrari, you came in here and dissed Lamborghinis because the niggas that know, know. Well, I was probably dissing Lamborghini before then, but I remember

— [161:19.400 --> 161:27.540] what he's saying. Look, the niggas that no, no. So the nigga that got a Rafe, it's like when they said the Christ with 300 look like the Bentley or, no it fucking don't. And the niggas

— [161:27.540 --> 161:36.100] that had a Bentley laughed at that stupid ass statement Because it didn't look like no Bentley and you wasn't going even remotely pull up to this and say yo We

— [161:36.100 --> 161:44.120] here. I also feel I like that example nigga my defrost also stopped making that they also stopped making that car shortly after

— [161:44.120 --> 161:59.280] they sold a shit So They also stopped making that car shortly Rolls

— [161:59.280 --> 162:07.480] were that they don't make no more fit. Yeah, I don't really under I I'm trying to get what you saying. I just don't think it's true. I just think you're

— [162:07.480 --> 162:15.720] talking about 2 totally different markets of people that we shooting

— [162:15.720 --> 162:23.800] at. You understand what I'm saying? Again, Ferrari might make- Adidas Saint-Ferrari. 2, 000 cars a year. Adidas Saint-Ferrari. I'm

— [162:23.800 --> 162:31.920] not saying they are, but that particular Adidas that's high priced- Sure. Is in this analogy, representative of Ferrari. But Adidas Saint-Ferrari. Nike ain't Ferrari neither,

— [162:31.920 --> 162:39.960] but them Travis Scott's cost $2, 000 and everybody don't have them. Well, they don't cost $2, 000. That's the aftermarket. You got to buy them, you want to spend $2,

— [162:39.960 --> 162:47.960] 000. And that's kind of what- Wait, wait, wait, stop. You wait. No, no, no. That exclusivity and them putting out a limited amount of Travis Scott's is what made them go to

— [162:47.960 --> 162:56.240] $2, 000 and it's okay I received what you saying my response to that is a smart company Any company

— [162:56.240 --> 163:04.720] that has boots on the ground? Got my boots on the ground sorry sorry

— [163:04.720 --> 163:15.060] go ahead wait I'm fan that Wait, I'm fan that Let your body Now

— [163:15.060 --> 163:30.340] I'm ready They ready to take the Mona down. They ready to take whole yellow round back Damn

— [163:30.340 --> 163:38.560] it. Damn it. Damn it. Travis Scott. Yeah, he crazy. And I think Nike is in tune with culture. I think that everybody

— [163:38.560 --> 163:47.020] that. Oh, that's what I'm saying. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What I'm saying is when I bought my Maybach during the pandemic from the aftermarket with

— [163:47.020 --> 163:55.400] the aftermarket price. They got up. Mercedes didn't see that and up the line on

— [163:55.840 --> 164:03.940] Maybachs they would put out. Gotcha. They saw that and modeled their business after the demand they

— [164:03.940 --> 164:12.620] were seeing from what was happening in the aftermarket. I'm saying what Adidas is doing is the opposite of that. They're seeing the demand for something, seeing

— [164:12.620 --> 164:20.780] the aftermarket price shoot up like the jellyfishes were, have many thousands of dollars and they're eliminating it. I'm saying a

— [164:20.780 --> 164:29.160] smart company would see it and work in conjunction with what the market is telling you about your product. That's what I'm saying in closing. They

— [164:29.160 --> 164:37.280] didn't eliminate the jellyfish, right? They still have it. All right, so you know. I feel like you're eliminating the jellyfish by making a fake jellyfish. I don't want to wear

— [164:37.280 --> 164:45.320] jellyfishes if we standing next to each other you got to squint to see which 1 is the jellyfish. I don't want to wear it. I don't want to wear what she got on. That's why I buy shit like that.

— [164:45.320 --> 164:53.500] To me there's nothing way to refute that. I don't get it. I get the money part and all that But it's almost like you saying fuck 1 thing for another at the end of the day

— [164:53.500 --> 165:01.740] Every money is things can be affordable you can do that you can have an affordable sleep We don't mind Adidas they've been around forever and they've been like a big part of like American

— [165:01.740 --> 165:09.740] culture forever, so I don't know I think that it has to be, I think that there's no way that if I go through all this shit to get a pair of sneakers, and

— [165:09.740 --> 165:17.800] y'all making something that close to it, just like when they did it with the Yeezy, it just takes the fun out of it. You don't want to do it again. So now we're taking the L of never being able to do the jellyfish thing

— [165:17.800 --> 165:25.880] again, no matter what, because we know what y'all already do anyway. Y'all just put out a replica. All right, we're gonna close it up. But real quick, I just want to say real fast. To the person that, like you

— [165:25.880 --> 165:33.990] said, that got the jellyfish standing next to the person that got the fake jellyfish, guess what? Adidas sold them both. Right. They don't give a fuck. Y'all missing it.

— [165:33.990 --> 165:42.200] For you to keep saying that to what we saying tells me that you're talking past each other. You might be missing it. It's okay. Y'all looking at the culture. It's okay. Can I ask a question?

— [165:42.200 --> 165:50.640] Sure. Why is Sydney Sweeney on the board? Who's going to reveal their horny? With a band that,

— [165:51.400 --> 165:59.540] with a band that. I don't know what this means, I'm getting nervous. You can sing. Could I sing? Yeah, the nigga. You know, he started off as an R&B singer. The

— [165:59.540 --> 166:07.540] nigga. I sang before I rapped. I don't know if I could still sing. Are you serious? I definitely sang before I rapped. He performed at Apollo, he's a major artist. So you should keep him off of him. Shut the fuck up. I'm

— [166:07.540 --> 166:15.860] not being funny. Seriously? Normally I am, but I'm not. Okay, okay, my bad. I used to be able to sing, when I got shipped away to my boarding school, I

— [166:15.860 --> 166:23.860] learned violence, drugs, regrets, B&Es, and shame. Singing hit the back burner. I started robbing people and

— [166:23.860 --> 166:31.880] houses and fucking fiefing and fucking well That's when I went away to rehab But yeah, I was smoking blunts

— [166:31.880 --> 166:40.940] and then that led to dust and the dust led to the robberies. There was no time to sing them. So I was rapping. You still go home to tour. So I was like, with them fans. I

— [166:40.940 --> 166:49.660] noticed that about your voice, even the way you do an ad, like the way you throw your voice. You're good at that. Imani calls me Anthony Scramilton. Just

— [166:49.660 --> 166:58.940] out of joke. Yeah. I like that. That's my man. Let me get back to my list. Sydney Sweeney, right?

— [166:59.160 --> 167:07.520] What's Sydney did, man? She appeared for Child of Variety for Variety's Power of Women of

— [167:07.520 --> 167:15.820] Los Angeles. Okay. Women of Los Angeles. It's a ceremony at the health to celebrate powerful women in LA.

— [167:15.820 --> 167:25.000] Okay, all right. And Sydney Sweeney showed up in a gray number that took the world by storm. It

— [167:25.000 --> 167:33.060] was the world. It was America's appreciation for white titties. Sure. She wore a see-through dress for content. It was the new JLo dress. And I'm not sure, it was

— [167:33.060 --> 167:41.080] see-through, but it was just form-fitting. It was titties out. Oh, titties are out, yeah, okay. It was nipples more than titties. Nah, and

— [167:41.080 --> 167:49.140] if the whole shape of the titty is out. No, that's titty. That ain't just nipples. That shit was poked out. Yeah, She looked good. Did y'all like it? Yes. I'm liking it right now.

— [167:49.140 --> 167:57.420] I'll tell you who didn't like it. Yes. Well, let's stay on who liked it first. Me. Me, which is interesting, right? Because these

— [167:57.900 --> 168:06.140] little white girls that shaped like white teenage boys, if they wear the right shit. Like, cause other pictures of Sydney Sweeney, I didn't feel

— [168:06.140 --> 168:14.160] like that. This night, her body, it looked good in the dress. It did, I gotta give props, we're props. For context, this is the girl we debated about

— [168:14.160 --> 168:22.260] before with the good jeans and from American Eagle, yada yada. So now you're saying the jeans are. She took that stop, took it through the moon,

— [168:22.420 --> 168:30.960] the rage baiting work, black people were mad, but our response to this tells me that maybe we jumped the gun. The

— [168:30.960 --> 168:39.000] bitch maybe got good jeans. I mean, listen, listen, man. Now, we can continue to talk about

— [168:39.000 --> 168:47.080] Sidney Sweeney's titties. And I wanna leave a ISO for Ish, who has an affinity for white titties different than the rest of us. I don't though. You fuck with white

— [168:47.080 --> 168:55.160] titties, don't do that. And I do too if they're not I'm not a city guy white white little perky titties like a city guy Joe. Did you see her the

— [168:55.160 --> 169:03.340] pictures? I did did you like it? It was nice Because You ain't even really got to be a titty guy to appreciate. Yeah, like that. You a titty

— [169:03.340 --> 169:12.180] guy. I'm not a titty guy. She's been naked in TV shows and movies before, guys. What? You look, okay, flabbergasted. Stop.

— [169:12.680 --> 169:22.600] Cause I don't like when he does this and I don't like when I employ him and he does this. This is what I'm saying. I'm supposed to lie because you pay me? Yes. I

— [169:22.600 --> 169:30.700] think and I've said this before the right set of titties attracts men that aren't

— [169:30.700 --> 169:38.900] titty men. That is a fact. I think that if you're just a man and you see the right set of titties, you appreciate

— [169:38.920 --> 169:47.060] the titties. That's 1100 percent fact. So I think that's what you're saying about me. I'm not necessarily a titty man, but I appreciate a nice set of titties.

— [169:47.060 --> 169:55.660] This face is saying that you are a titty man and you lying. You said that you are a titty man. And I don't know where he gets that from. I've been an ass man my whole life. You are a voluptuous man. I

— [169:55.660 --> 170:05.160] like curves. You like all of it. I like all of it. It doesn't have to be 1 or the other. You with all those curves and me without no brakes. Ooh. Anyway,

— [170:05.180 --> 170:13.280] I can appreciate Sydney Sweeney's titties. I think she looked great. Indeed. She did. My Sydney Sweeney

— [170:13.280 --> 170:23.620] take is not about Sydney Sweeney. It's about the advertising. I'm all ears. Company. Well, they

— [170:23.620 --> 170:32.060] were honoring Sidney Sweeney and Jamie Lee Curtis and Jamie Lee Curtis went viral recently for her ad

— [170:32.620 --> 170:40.800] for whatever movie that she was putting out where her cleavage was showing. Do y'all remember that? Yeah. Yeah. So it was a moment having Sidney Sweeney

— [170:40.920 --> 170:49.180] who had the biggest viral movement and changed the stock of that jean company and Jamie Lee Curtis at the same time. Wasn't it the cap? I did go Google if

— [170:49.180 --> 170:57.540] Jamie Lee Curtis was married to a man, and she is. Yeah. She also has children. So let's say that.

— [170:57.540 --> 171:06.700] And I just said that I'm not with pulling people out of closets, because I'm not. Okay.

— [171:07.920 --> 171:17.580] Crazy. I had to look them up. I wasn't. For titties? No, the ad. I mean, I don't know, wasn't familiar. How do I, watch

— [171:17.580 --> 171:25.940] this? This is What I'm saying to you is, I saw Jamie Lee Curtis when she greeted Sydney Sweeney on

— [171:26.040 --> 171:34.080] the carpet. Is she like them titties? And I saw the grab. As a man, I always watch the hand during the picture and

— [171:34.080 --> 171:42.120] the cuff and the tightness. And Jamie Lee Curtis had it down to a science. She might have did it before. And then when Sydney Sweeney was trying

— [171:42.120 --> 171:50.920] to go, Jamie Lee Curtis, she did the linger. So she looked back like, text me girl. So

— [171:51.040 --> 171:59.240] I was like, I think Jamie Lee Curtis wanna eat Sydney's wing. That's fucked up to say. I mean,

— [171:59.280 --> 172:09.800] is it? But I mean, shit. Sometimes when you feel in a certain way as a dude, you can spot the girl and feel the same way you feel. Also,

— [172:10.120 --> 172:18.420] while I can appreciate a good set of white titties and nipples, I am

— [172:18.420 --> 172:26.840] a chocolate milk guy. So Tiana happened to also be dressed for the time 100 people, some

— [172:26.840 --> 172:34.940] shit that she was being celebrated for. And she had on a blazer, not no see-through shit. It was taped to yada yada yada. I was

— [172:34.940 --> 172:43.060] like, God damn, Tiana looks amazing. Her body is her body. You already know. You already know, Tiana, friend and show. I'm not looking at it like that, but Tiana is that

— [172:43.160 --> 172:51.480] for me. So to get this like dose of Tiana and Sydney Sweeney, It's gotta feel like when Oreo double stuff

— [172:53.080 --> 173:01.500] put out the chocolate and the white cream. You say it's a good week for titties. Bust it together. This is a great week for titties. Why

— [173:01.500 --> 173:09.640] am I the only 1 talking about this? Make some noise! Make some noise! Let's give them applause for titties, man.

— [173:09.800 --> 173:18.140] Well, there were some people booing those titties. Whose titties? No 1 should ever boo titties. Cindy Sweeney? They weren't booing the titties per se. Stop

— [173:18.140 --> 173:26.360] it. They were booing that we could see the titties. Megan Kelly. Sit down. No, no, no, listen, listen, listen, listen. It's important. No. I'll tell you why.

— [173:26.360 --> 173:34.540] Megan Kelly didn't boo the titties. She didn't boo the titties. She booed the showing of the titties. What she said is, she said Sydney was on the red carpet on Wednesday, and she decided to show off her number

— [173:34.540 --> 173:42.540] 1 asset, which, contrary to the American Eagle jeans ad, is not really her jeans. It's her enormous breasts. Or is it? Is that it? No, she did say the

— [173:42.540 --> 173:50.540] breasts were spectacular. Which are not really enormous either. No, they're just nice. Because this would be looked at differently if they were enormous. Right, that's true. She said, and she said they were

— [173:50.540 --> 173:58.540] spectacular, but she also said- Today they're enormous. I object to this. I disapprove of the dress because it's completely see-through. You can see her

— [173:58.540 --> 174:06.540] entire nipples. She reminded me of Kim Kardashian, And then finally she said that she draws the line

— [174:06.540 --> 174:14.760] at the areola being visible. So I'm raising it not so much because of what Megan said, but to ask are there titty display rules? Well, there are. And

— [174:14.760 --> 174:22.780] did she cross the line? To me, no. No. No, at society she did. That was artsy titties. Old society. Old society. Just because they're big doesn't

— [174:22.780 --> 174:30.860] mean that they're not so artsy. But it's the area where they're not so big. Even if they were small, back in the day you don't show the areola. They put that thing on it. It's the best. Is the

— [174:30.860 --> 174:38.860] areola the rule still? Yeah, I think so. No. I've always been against women having to cover their nipples. I think it's stupid. Personally. I mean,

— [174:38.860 --> 174:46.900] y'all show y'all nipples. What's the big deal? I feel like you're right. Like if you want to show them, you show them. As far as when you talk about red carpet events, it's like, to be honest,

— [174:47.060 --> 174:55.080] a part of your brand, your whole team works what you gonna wear on the carpet. You're supposed to break the internet. So if I'm doing that with a little titty, unless it's not allowed to the point somebody's gonna come and

— [174:55.080 --> 175:03.080] say, hey, you need to cover that up or leave, it's a go for me. I agree with Mona. Yeah, I disagree. If you have red carpet titties and you decide to

— [175:03.080 --> 175:11.080] showcase them in that way, it's worked every time. It's worked when Lil' Kim did it. It's worked when J.Lo did it. It's worked when Marilyn Monroe did it. There's too many women

— [175:11.080 --> 175:19.400] that have done it in a tasteful, classy way, and I think a large part of that depends on where you're going. For these types of ceremonies, yes,

— [175:19.400 --> 175:27.740] do it. If you're going to Stafford. If you're going to the corporate Christmas party. If you're going to Harbor. Yeah. Now if I go see through, they might walk me

— [175:27.740 --> 175:35.860] out. I thought you were gonna say, where the nipples point, but. Nah, you gotta go with the see through fupa. Nah, that's what I'm saying. If I go see through Fupa long titty. They

— [175:35.860 --> 175:43.860] go make me leave Not just gonna be nice a group of niggas. It's like I love natural mother Africa titties But for the most part they gonna say go those cities

— [175:43.860 --> 175:51.980] look good They nice to clean up and she is Sydney Sweeney because of that big thing with American Eagle, motherfuckers is waiting for her to be like, what's she gonna do on the carpet? Women know when

— [175:51.980 --> 176:00.060] they got titties that could go in that outfit and when they don't, and they should be allowed to fucking police themselves. Like do what you want. If

— [176:00.060 --> 176:08.100] You think your titties gonna look good in that dress? Then by all means, please, have at it. Anytime I've ever wanted to go see through, I did it because I wanted to. Like it didn't really

— [176:08.100 --> 176:16.109] matter what the event was. Also again, both Jamie Lee Curtis and Sidney Sweeney have done a lot of nude scenes. So this isn't like the

— [176:16.109 --> 176:24.480] most- Oh, that's a good point too. Like. This is regular. Yeah. And they're just titties, bruh. Just some titties. I just, titties is dope, y'all. Titties

— [176:24.480 --> 176:32.920] is dope. Titties is dope. He about to tell himself that he a titty man for real. I'm not a titty man. I'm a man. You took it who, y'all? Who can appreciate

— [176:33.160 --> 176:41.580] great titty. When Kanye's wife was running around, that's his wife, or was his wife, so with respect. And after I said

— [176:41.600 --> 176:49.900] all of my horrible shit about him and how they looked running around, I did get to, she got a nice set of titties.

— [176:50.160 --> 176:58.340] She do, she got a nice titties. I think when you see a nice set of titties, there's nothing, if you appreciate that, there's nothing that you can say besides, nice

— [176:58.340 --> 177:06.900] titties. Those are nice, those are nice. You did that, Those are nice. So she turned that shit upside down. I

— [177:06.900 --> 177:14.920] done saved way too many Sydney Sweeney pictures in my phone. I done liked too many of those shit. I done found her on Instagram. Then she went to

— [177:14.920 --> 177:22.980] the Dodgers game, put the glizzy to her mouth. Then she went to the Dodgers game, put the glitz, my type of white bitch right there.

— [177:22.980 --> 177:31.320] What the fuck are y'all talking about? But the double glizzy with an old girl on some white bitch sign. You know white bitches get freaky on the nighttime at the Dodger game. It's about

— [177:32.240 --> 177:40.520] some, yeah, nigga. I ain't gonna let nobody talk that shit about Sydney Sweeney. Let me pull up this fucking Dodger picture so y'all can see what I'm talking about. Because y'all niggas is hate. Y'all

— [177:40.520 --> 177:48.620] niggas is hate. No, no, I'm not hating on her titties or her at all. Dog, dog, dog, dog. 1 of the best young actresses. Dog, dog, dog. Look, look, look, look. She's totally like,

— [177:48.620 --> 177:56.880] oh, the glizzy. Yes, messy white head. She's a messy white head.

— [177:57.620 --> 178:05.620] What are y'all talking about with that glizzy right there? She's licking the top of it. She know what the fuck she's doing. Shout out to Sydney Sweet. I can tell when a white girl's my type

— [178:05.620 --> 178:13.800] of white girl. I don't care what y'all talking about. I had a bit of enough spaces. I'm about to shout them out, but I'm involved. I can tell the white girl

— [178:13.900 --> 178:22.080] I'm gonna party with. When I get the augs, I go right to it. It's a party. It's a party. It's a party. Yeah It's a party. It's a

— [178:22.080 --> 178:31.520] party. Oh White girl ways that I got my white girl playlist mad Miley. Oh Yes,

— [178:31.520 --> 178:41.120] and Molly Miley and mama Miley and fucking Molly you got a nice set of little perky white titties, and I got money. What

— [178:41.120 --> 178:50.020] the fuck is you talking about? Nigga, yes, we're going to the after-variety party. Are you wearing that? I might wear my see-through shit. That's

— [178:50.020 --> 178:58.300] how we feelin', I might give him my lace. What the fuck is you talkin' about? She got some other shit for that after party. Nigga. Nice. It's a party, it's a party,

— [178:58.300 --> 179:21.380] it's a party, yeah. I might play Lil Jon, nigga. You know the freaky white bitches like all that you you ain't know they like it They like that shit city

— [179:21.380 --> 179:29.460] sweetie little white titties. Nigga, when you see this black dick. What the fuck are y'all talking about? Everybody in

— [179:29.460 --> 179:40.480] here know when they catch the vibe with the little fly white freaky joint, give it to me, Rick James. On

— [179:40.480 --> 179:48.600] Halloween, that's when we pop these white bitches. It's, it's, why you want this if you can't time it? Halloween

— [179:49.020 --> 179:57.120] night. Y'all know that's when we pop these types of pictures. That's a good night for white girls. I'm lying. That's a good night for white girls. I'm not even telling you, I'm lying. Halloween and New Year. Y'all, dog. New

— [179:57.120 --> 180:05.540] Year's Eve. Dog. That's a good night for white girls. Yes it is. We bar hopping on. Look over there, well, unsuspecting. I

— [180:05.540 --> 180:13.780] should've even known. Yeah, we there. Hey yo, hey the niggas that do this. Are you crazy? Where

— [180:13.780 --> 180:22.140] do you think white girl wasted came from? Bitch in the corner with a perky titties by herself, her ride left her. She's telling strangers. Oh my God. Oh

— [180:22.260 --> 180:30.480] my God. My ride left her. I am stranded. That's where it's come. That's where it's come.

— [180:30.480 --> 180:38.580] Pull the van up on these hoes. I got this crib, bitch. I'm trying to refurbish. Bitch, you can stay over there

— [180:38.580 --> 180:46.740] for the back. All I want to do to see them little perky white Man perky

— [180:46.740 --> 180:56.820] white to these they get crazy And

— [180:56.820 --> 181:05.180] they wear them shirts That's how nuts me my bad perky white titties. They get crazy Any with them shirts they look at their city sweetie shirt like another Wednesday. Bitches,

— [181:05.180 --> 181:13.480] I'm talking about wet ass shit, nigga. They going to write to Urban Outfitters, wet as shit, they going to Skims. These bitches is going outside

— [181:13.540 --> 181:22.400] in lingerie with pants, with jeans, nigga. What are you talking about? Them ain't shirts these bitches is wearing. Nah, you

— [181:22.400 --> 181:30.540] ain't. All right. You're not wrong. Get this nigga in there. No, you all right. He all worked up. Give him a paper towel, Juice. God damn. Maybe I'm a tittie guy. Yeah, maybe. I'm not saying

— [181:30.540 --> 181:38.700] that. Maybe, Joey, maybe. Look what Titties can do for the world. Titties can solve all the world's problems. Titties got him turnt up. This

— [181:38.700 --> 181:46.980] guy's nuts. You gotta see me doing fucking sex. I close my eyes just to keep open them and see if Titties. Nigga, I be like this on the bottom.

— [181:47.360 --> 181:55.680] And I go, oh, shi- What? I'm fucking, I'm fucking making shit. The new S-S-Skets, nigga. Are

— [181:55.680 --> 182:03.840] you fucking crazy, nigga? Will you close your eyes as you fucking open them again? Big ass fucking H comes to your, like a

— [182:03.840 --> 182:12.180] fucking child, nigga. I'm a kid with those shits. The fuck are you talking about? Huh? What the fuck is happening? What's wrong with you, bro?

— [182:12.200 --> 182:20.280] What's happening? Wait till the educated community gets home. It's all over for the last 5 minutes. It's over for me. They got Mark up there talking about

— [182:20.280 --> 182:28.460] titties. White titties at that. But after, like, why do you think I'm a titty man? Why would I

— [182:29.740 --> 182:37.740] be? All the niggas that bought Kanye first shit and turned the drunken, hot white girls, know what I'm saying. That's the third

— [182:37.740 --> 182:45.860] album. Oh, still, still, still applies. On the first album was that workout shit. Yeah, yeah. That workout, Who do you think that was

— [182:45.860 --> 182:53.880] for? Big T White Girl. Well she said it in the song. I'm from Mobile, Alabama. Exactly, exactly. All right, take

— [182:54.340 --> 183:02.360] it away. I'm done. I bought a double wine. We had a good show. We might have did it. Yeah, I think we did it. There's no topping that. Yeah. That was great. How can we go behind that? Go out on the

— [183:02.360 --> 183:10.460] high note. These guys are fools. That was a good 1. No, nigga. Sydney Sweeney and her titties. I did not see that coming. Not at all.

— [183:10.760 --> 183:18.820] I just asked why Sydney Sweeney was on the board, God damn it. Got a classic out of it. He showed you. Yeah, I mean, listen, shit's looking all right. Yeah, no, there's

— [183:18.820 --> 183:27.300] some good titties. Some good titties. He's gonna go see you. He's gonna go see you for ya now. Oh shit. Yeah.

— [183:28.440 --> 183:36.660] Yo, and I fixed a business combo. You said you wanted to move it to an artist. I'm out of breath. So you just. All

— [183:36.660 --> 183:44.660] right, I'll take it. What do you want from me? Yeah, you should be. Titty's got you done. And our fix a business combo, Joe was talking about moving

— [183:44.660 --> 183:53.060] it to an artist. Todd Dallas Signs first week numbers came out and they were really, really, really, really low. Okay.

— [183:53.800 --> 184:01.840] For him. Oh. How low, how low we talking? 7.9. 8, 000, right? Yeah, 8, 000. Call it 8. Yeah, 8, 000. Yeah, so it's

— [184:01.840 --> 184:10.560] 8, 000 first week. And we're trying to find out what's, like what's the problem? Marketing, I had no idea that album came out till a week later That's

— [184:10.560 --> 184:18.780] the thing. I keep running into with these artists that have low weeks It was like when Tyler came out other people is it's like oh wait. There was an album. Oh wait There's you know,

— [184:18.780 --> 184:26.820] there's just no marking for some of these acts, and I think they're riding on their name and thinking that people are just gonna do it. We're lying too much on Instagram, and Instagram, if you look at most people's analytics that I've

— [184:26.820 --> 184:34.860] talked to at least, is very fucking low, let alone click through rate, the people that actually see your shit. Like you can't just post something on Instagram and people are

— [184:34.860 --> 184:43.060] gonna go run out and buy the album. You know what I think it is too? A lot of them are used to the label doing more. That's true too. Like now with the labels being in disarray

— [184:43.060 --> 184:51.140] all this shit that's going on, the artist is thinking, yo I do my usual 1 too. I post here. I do whatever whatever. Yeah, and Y'all take care of the rest the

— [184:51.140 --> 184:59.560] world knows my album is coming I damn near thought Ty Dolla Sign dropped on it as an independent. I had to check to make sure this was still Atlantic Oh, it was yes. Oh, wow

— [184:59.920 --> 185:08.020] There's been no sing. Oh, no, there was a single. I'm sorry there, but there's been, you haven't even seen him. Right. Yeah, you gotta be. Like when your

— [185:08.020 --> 185:16.360] album is coming out, you gotta get outside and do something. You gotta be visible. Yeah, you gotta go sit down with some pods, tell some stories, do something, anything, literally anything,

— [185:16.360 --> 185:24.480] literally anything. I mean, not just to take it off him you gotta actually work yeah So the fix

— [185:24.480 --> 185:32.500] I Always said Tidalis sign was known more for his features in his albums Anyway, I caught

— [185:32.500 --> 185:40.700] hell up here for that. That first album's a classic damn near to me though. Still. Free TC, is that what it was? Yeah, yeah, Free TC

— [185:41.280 --> 185:49.480] was, still, I just have him more as a feature artist. As far as fixing him, I think standing next to Kanye like that

— [185:49.480 --> 185:57.640] hurt. Probably. So in terms of the fix, you gotta walk back some shit, bro. He's publicly

— [185:57.720 --> 186:06.540] said that he didn't fuck with Kanye for saying certain shit. No, he said I don't fuck with hate speech. Fixed-tie dollar sign. 1,

— [186:07.760 --> 186:16.000] writers. There's a reason why we enjoy him on these features more than we enjoy him on his own songs. Those

— [186:16.000 --> 186:24.080] songs have writers. He getting in the studio, probably just writing his own shit, going off his own vibe. No A&R's. You don't think he wrote his own songs? Like

— [186:24.080 --> 186:32.400] when he featured? I think I can say, I think it sounds like there's no A&R on his project. It's not like there's no nothing on his project. It sounds like these are leftover joints

— [186:32.400 --> 186:40.580] from him and Kanye and I'm a fucking Todd Dollar fan So it did that then it deserved to do that, right? I know but we want to fix

— [186:40.580 --> 186:48.740] him because we know he's talented We know his brand is there we know people like him He has the appeal but when it comes to his solo music, it's just not

— [186:48.740 --> 186:56.780] hidden like his features. Writers number 1 for me, number 2, he's an EDM act for the rest of his career. I'm taking him away from you niggas.

— [186:57.340 --> 187:05.500] No. That's where the money is, I'm putting him with Calvin Harris. That's interesting. I'm putting him with some of the big techno DJs that could repurpose his old joints

— [187:05.760 --> 187:13.860] I just heard a new EDM version of Rihanna kiss it better Rihanna who ain't seen a studio in 20 years and It sounded all the

— [187:13.860 --> 187:21.940] way fire. I'm putting Ty Dollar in that mix He's 1 of the only people that could do that, have a presence. They love hip hop, I'm doing that for sure. I'm gonna

— [187:21.940 --> 187:30.140] be more consistent if I'm Ty Dolla Sign. All of this at 1 album every 5 years. Shit, that's not gonna cut it. That's not gonna help you cut through all the noise.

— [187:30.630 --> 187:38.860] What else? I'm going outside if I'm Ty Dolla Sign. Well, he's been outside. No, I mean. He don't be talking, these niggas just be outside. That's what I'm talking about. When I say outside, I mean

— [187:39.160 --> 187:47.220] popping up talking. I'm being visible. You're going to hear from me, not just music. You're going to I want to sit down and do interviews. I got to put put something that the

— [187:47.220 --> 187:55.520] people could gravitate to. Or if you don't want to, back to the fucking Daniel Cesar Romani argument, go just be an amazing, because he can play. He can play bass, guitar, he

— [187:55.520 --> 188:03.740] can play instruments, and he can sing. Go do that shit somewhere, and the millions of platforms where they let you do it. Tidala, I agree. Or just outside. He

— [188:03.740 --> 188:11.780] need to hit the grassroots. Go do the In the Porch series. Yeah, I want him, yeah. Go do the In the Cadillac series. Right.

— [188:11.880 --> 188:20.060] Go do the homegrown nigga grassroots shit that's helping people connect to their audience. Tidala, I think, is just used to

— [188:20.060 --> 188:28.120] major label, big budget feature, pay me big video, and then you go and connect with the vibes. I think we're past that time. That time is done now.

— [188:28.360 --> 188:36.680] You have to actually go out and show people why they should fuck with your brand. And it starts and ends with you, not your team,

— [188:36.980 --> 188:44.990] you. I was Ty Dolla, nothing but the best. I was disappointed in those numbers when they came back, but I was also halfway disappointed in

— [188:44.990 --> 188:53.040] the album as a huge Ty Dolla Sign fan. So I hope he gets it together. I hope we don't have to wait another 6 and 7 years to hear him and he has all my... Him not even

— [188:53.040 --> 189:01.360] coming up here. He's supposed to come up here, he canceled the shit, he went around and I know I say this all the time, but nigga, we us, right? We are us.

— [189:01.360 --> 189:09.400] We are y'all. Y'all are us. Come up here and talk to your people. Don't let me just monopolize this fucking audience on some self-sufficient.

— [189:09.560 --> 189:17.620] Come up here and use it, please. Maybe just those streams with the streaming people who slide through the streams with the streaming people. They tired of saying that on the Fix It

— [189:17.620 --> 189:25.740] business. Go sit with Playboy Max. I don't want them doing that anyway. Kyle fixed it for ya. I don't want them doing that.

— [189:26.080 --> 189:34.520] They sick of us saying that in the fixer business segment. We just said it 4 times. We gotta actually fix some shit. I don't agree with that anymore. GoPro call, Kais and Nat.

— [189:35.140 --> 189:43.160] You gotta get your GoPro with Playboy Max and the Stramers. Playboy Max. That ain't a bad plan though, but I wish we can't, it can't be

— [189:43.160 --> 189:51.640] the, It can't be the, It's a band aid. I know it to be all. That's a band aid. But that also could be the same kind of things that we're looking at now. We're just talking about with like instagram

— [189:51.660 --> 189:59.880] and all these other things that are back to the billboard charts. All that shit were how much interaction really comes from it. Right. That's a good point.

— [190:01.020 --> 190:09.180] I do y'all care about bmf canceling getting canceled after 4 seasons. Listen, I feel like this was a nothing burger and everybody knew this was going to happen

— [190:09.180 --> 190:17.280] if you followed the 50 cent Meach. That's what it felt like. This is just the natural end. This is over. It should have been over. If you watched the show, you kind

— [190:17.280 --> 190:25.540] of wanted BMF to get you over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, come on, dog. I've been coming in here telling y'all, like, all right, enough. And does anybody,

— [190:25.600 --> 190:34.420] lastly, I'll save whatever else I have for Patreon. Lastly, does anyone here care about Trump beginning to test nuclear weapons.

— [190:36.140 --> 190:44.440] I mean, I care. I say no in the sense that there's no surprise. And the US is always testing nuclear weapons, even when they don't tell you to test

— [190:44.440 --> 190:52.460] nuclear weapons. So him saying that the test of nuclear weapons signals something, but I think a lot of times the power flex and that's you see a lot of I think it's all Trump be doing is be up there like

— [190:52.460 --> 191:00.580] you put a press release about something that's been happening or I'm already doing it and make it look like I'm doing some shit and then into that scared that that is scary to me. I'm sorry.

— [191:00.580 --> 191:08.640] I think the US the US testing nuclear weapons I'm at peace with Trump testing. I don't feel

— [191:08.640 --> 191:17.200] the same. I don't think it's the same thing. I feel you. I feel you. And I get why. I think he's been testing nuclear weapons. But we're not, we're not. We're last to that party. Yeah.

— [191:17.200 --> 191:25.360] We're last to that party. Yeah, That's all I'm saying. I don't feel any more unsafe than I did last week or last year. Got it. Got it. I just think he talks about the shit behind the curtain. Like he just he don't

— [191:25.360 --> 191:33.540] give a fuck. I'm just gonna tell it. Yeah. And which is why a lot of people didn't want him in there. When it makes him look powerful or brave. Of course, of course, of course.

— [191:33.540 --> 191:41.580] But I'm just saying, where a lot of other presidents were doing that, we don't like to blow back from it. I'm not sure that anybody wasn't testing nuclear

— [191:41.580 --> 191:49.860] weapons in this country. They always are. But some presidents, and we saw this in North Korea with Kim Jong-un and then eventually Kim Jong-un is sometimes they do

— [191:49.860 --> 191:57.960] nuclear, they do displays of weapons, of weapons testing as a way of showing look how powerful we are, look how mighty we are, we're still in control, still got my hand on the wheel and I think

— [191:57.960 --> 192:06.660] that's what Trump is doing. He's taking a page out of the fascist or the despot leader book, which he is, so it makes sense. Yeah, Before

— [192:06.660 --> 192:14.740] we go, Mark, we got 1 week left in the New York mayoral race. Yeah, less than that. I know you've been glued to this the way I've

— [192:14.740 --> 192:23.860] been glued to it, I'm still indeed glued to it, along with that Trenton Governor shit. That shit got you in the chokehold. Them commercials. I'm

— [192:23.860 --> 192:32.060] finally seeing the other side's commercials. Right? Like I've seen nothing but Jack Chittirelli is a shit head. This week I've seen

— [192:32.200 --> 192:40.680] the woman that he's running up against and what he's saying against her. Jack Chittarelli done buddy. It's over. Mikey Sher. Homegirl. You

— [192:40.680 --> 192:49.020] familiar with her? He tried to say some compelling shit but it didn't work. It didn't work. Trenton if you listen out there as a New Jersey

— [192:49.020 --> 192:57.120] resident for most of my life with the key to mad New Jersey cities, I'm not voting Jack Chittarelli. Fuck out of you. But the

— [192:57.120 --> 193:05.460] New York shit. Some Uneducated takes from me. It's getting spicy. Uneducated takes from me. Eric Adams, you look like a sucker standing

— [193:05.460 --> 193:13.620] behind Cuomo. You do. Yeah, you do. Facts. He looks so soft back there because of his, because I heard him. The bravado, I heard

— [193:13.620 --> 193:21.880] what he was saying. But Eric Adams do look like he's having private calls with Trump and being kinda, it looks like that. To my uneducated

— [193:22.260 --> 193:30.640] political opinion, it looks like that. So you look nuts back there, Eric Adams. What else? What else, what else? I'm still laughing

— [193:30.640 --> 193:38.660] at the Curtis Lee-Wook commercials. Yeah. Classic. But it appears that mom Donnie is gonna if we're going by the looks of it it's

— [193:38.660 --> 193:46.700] a done deal I mean it looks that way yeah it's been a done deal but then there was this moment where people worried that the Adams withdrawal could lead to

— [193:46.700 --> 193:54.820] enough votes but Curtis Lee wouldn't pull out which honestly Means that Republicans are going to vote Republican. It's hard to get Republic people register Republican in New York to vote

— [193:54.820 --> 194:03.040] independent They they're probably for reason do you think do you think it makes a difference if Slea would drops out? Or if he dropped out If he had dropped out at the exact

— [194:03.040 --> 194:11.100] moment that they wanted him to, which was when Adams did, it would have been a competitive race, because then what would happen is those numbers don't add up to M'Doneys. But what does add, we start

— [194:11.100 --> 194:19.320] to see people say, oh, wait, you can win. Oh, we'll dump more money into into your campaign. Oh, there'll be bigger ads. They'll be they'll take more risks. They're not taking a risk on Cuomo

— [194:19.320 --> 194:27.340] because it's too big of a well bigger ads Historically have meant bigger turnout. Yes, right

— [194:28.260 --> 194:36.620] This race again my very uneducated opinion seems to come down to, and even just watching the commercials and some of the debates, I

— [194:36.620 --> 194:44.840] think New York is just too expensive for people to not go mom-darn. I think that's right. I think New York just costs

— [194:44.840 --> 194:53.300] too much. So his message of hope and the time that it comes at versus what Trump is trying to do with blue states versus red states I think it's just a perfect

— [194:54.380 --> 195:02.460] Gumbo right now. I think I think New York is gonna surprise people. I think that Cuomo has a bigger dog in this

— [195:02.460 --> 195:10.760] fight than people think. And I think that whether the Republicans gonna come forward and say they rock a Curtis Lee, I don't think majority

— [195:10.760 --> 195:18.820] of the Republicans will vote for him. I think when majority of the Republicans are looking to vote for Cuomo, and they can mask it however they

— [195:18.820 --> 195:28.720] see fit, but only you and the booth when you go vote. What do you say to the people that say that the New York we're seeing is Cuomo's New York? Currently?

— [195:29.300 --> 195:38.000] Yeah, I think they're wrong. I think this is Eric Adams is in New York. I don't think this is Cuomo's New York. But these prices and shit, the main things that are incontestable. Yeah.

— [195:38.140 --> 195:46.300] We have been here since Cuomo. Yeah, that was before Eric Adams. We've been here before Cuomo. True. This ain't a Cuomo thing. Cuomo didn't do this to New York City. New York City has been

— [195:46.560 --> 195:55.040] ridiculously expensive. When did Cuomo take office in New York? Because I don't know that to be true. When did he get there? When he was governor, he became governor.

— [195:55.120 --> 196:03.580] I don't know. Somebody just Google it quick while we continue the conversation. I don't know, but New York has been expensive since early. When do you feel like you can pinpoint

— [196:03.580 --> 196:11.680] that turn and I don't wanna regionalize us out? I'm telling you that since we were children, New York has been highly. Oh, okay. No, but I think that's the point. I

— [196:11.680 --> 196:20.080] think you're, I think it's just right, but I think that's the point, is that Cuomo is the status quo. 2011. And I think that, And I think that this is what I do. Yeah, I just grew up. Look, this is what I don't like in politics.

— [196:20.180 --> 196:28.300] I don't like in politics where people start quoting shit and this is what Trump did. I don't like in politics where people just start saying the correct shit to say, but

— [196:28.300 --> 196:36.600] they can't physically do the shit. Donald Trump went on TV and told everybody, y'all fucked up, y'all poor, y'all broke, I'm empathizing with y'all and I can change

— [196:36.600 --> 196:44.880] it. And he can't. And I think this is what Homeboy's doing. I think Homeboy's saying some of the same shit. I think he's saying, yo, I'm gonna give the buses

— [196:44.880 --> 196:53.180] for free and I'm gonna do all, you cannot do that. And I think you promising people shit that you can't do and you plan on people's desperation and I think that shit is whack when politicians

— [196:53.180 --> 197:01.273] do it. I don't give a fuck what side of the aisle they're on. And we calling it out for Trump, lying to motherfuckers saying I'm gonna make groceries cheaper and I'm gonna make housing cheaper and

— [197:01.273 --> 197:09.320] I'm gonna make all of these things cheaper. He can't do that. He don't possess the ability to do that. I think that homeboy don't possess the ability to do some of the shit that he's saying he gonna do. And

— [197:09.320 --> 197:17.580] I think that that's whack. I think that that's true. At the same time, I also don't think that New York was this way in 2011.

— [197:18.140 --> 197:26.140] And I'm saying this as someone that is not so politically inclined, just as someone living out here, you can

— [197:26.140 --> 197:34.400] see where there's not a home for middle class people in New York, more evident than ever before to me. I think that's been a topic on this podcast

— [197:34.400 --> 197:42.620] for a little while as a podcast that ain't in the politics. And that happened. We just got more money now, so we looking at more shit now. I've been

— [197:42.620 --> 197:50.660] in the real estate game since 2003. New York has been highest giraffe pussy back then. But we're not talking about real estate-ish. I'm talking about the cost of

— [197:50.660 --> 197:58.680] living, the major expenditure that most people have is rent or mortgage. So that's everybody's biggest bill across the board, right? So

— [197:58.680 --> 198:07.060] if your rent in New York City in 2011 was $3, 500 or $3, 000, My nigga, the cost of living is high as shit. That's just,

— [198:07.060 --> 198:15.500] wham, that's just number 1, cost of rent. And that's most people's biggest bill. So you can't say that it wasn't as high, maybe in the last few years, it's gotten,

— [198:16.700 --> 198:24.760] The gap between rich and poor is growing a lot, but that's not just because of New York, that's because of jobs, that's because of technology, that's

— [198:24.760 --> 198:32.760] because of outsourcing and all that other shit. That's where I put back on his real estate conversation. Everything is more expensive as someone who lives in New York and has apartment shopped in the last, I have a apartment

— [198:32.760 --> 198:41.320] shop all the time, really. It's crazy. It's much more expensive than it used to be that being said everything is much more expensive than it used to be so I'm saying yeah yeah

— [198:41.320 --> 198:49.520] that's for sure I think mum Donnie has some things within his power some things he can't but I think having a vision a progressive vision for what the city could look like is in it.

— [198:49.940 --> 198:58.100] Yeah, I think that means something. People need hope, I think people need plans. I agree. Actionable plans. I think making buses free is possible. He didn't say he's gonna make all

— [198:58.100 --> 199:06.180] the public transportation free, but buses, I think you can make free. When you look at his plan, I think it seems doable. So when you make buses free

— [199:06.180 --> 199:14.240] and then they lay off mad MTA workers because they not being as profitable as as the MTA Once was and then we gonna bitch at that like yo dog.

— [199:14.240 --> 199:22.280] I just think that But that's not what he's that's not that's not do you I'm just giving you an example, but it's not an example This is a real thing. That's what I'm saying. What part of his plan do you find unworkable? I

— [199:22.280 --> 199:30.320] don't think that he could possibly make the buses free in the city. Well, how's he proposing to do it? I don't know that I don't know the the ends and outs. You know, we can't do it That's I'm saying

— [199:30.320 --> 199:38.320] like I feel like he's given reasons. He said I mean you I don't mean to cut you off, go ahead. I think that what you are gonna propose is gonna have kickbacks. And

— [199:38.320 --> 199:46.560] I think when you propose these things, again, to whatever politics, bro, I'm a realist, number 1. And

— [199:46.560 --> 199:54.740] then I think finances play a part in everything. And so I think when you start doing taking money from here, the money got to come from

— [199:54.740 --> 200:02.760] somewhere. And where's he proposing to take it from? I don't know. Then how, okay. I would only say respectfully that we should at least look at the plan. Before we say it can't happen, we should at least see

— [200:02.760 --> 200:11.020] what he's asking. Because what he's saying to take it from, and you might still disagree, but I just think it's better to know his plan before we say the plan can't work. That seems fair. He's

— [200:11.020 --> 200:19.080] saying that raising corporate taxes, he's saying more aggressively collecting unpaid bills from elites, particularly like water bills and things like

— [200:19.080 --> 200:27.120] that. So he's not saying take from this public source that's getting funded and put it over there. He's saying there's money that's not being collected that can be more aggressively collected. And he's saying that

— [200:27.120 --> 200:35.140] there are people who aren't paying their fair share at the highest levels. Now, I'm not saying there's not a consequence to any every every action has a reaction But I do think

— [200:35.140 --> 200:44.280] in least the financial experts I'm not a financial expert so I can't say but the economists and I know who've looked at in the financial experts I know who looked at it have said that this is a workable plan Buddy

— [200:44.680 --> 200:53.000] there could be a large a large portion of people that think that his ideas are not doable and sound preposterous. There's

— [200:53.000 --> 201:01.100] a lot of people that just like someone with new ideas. True, and that, i.e. Donald Trump. Cuomo just keeps saying he never had a

— [201:01.100 --> 201:09.360] job, he never had a girl, he don't have experience, He don't, and that, I just don't think it's enough for Savvy New Yorkers. I don't. I'm

— [201:09.360 --> 201:17.640] not disagreeing with you, but when you start talking about the corporate, the corporate, we gonna make the corporations pay more taxes? Everybody in this room, I hope, knows that corporations pay

— [201:17.640 --> 201:25.740] no taxes. So unless you're going to go restructure the entire tax system. That's what he's proposing. He's saying raising the corporate tax rate. Cool. And the powers

— [201:25.740 --> 201:33.760] that be are not going to... We going off on a tangent. No, sir. This is the exact point. Well, no, that's the structure of your point. The powers that be run in New York, not

— [201:34.080 --> 201:42.620] him. The powers that be run in the United States of America, not him. The powers that be run the world, not him. Or these smaller people that have these huge monstrous ideas.

— [201:42.700 --> 201:50.740] And so when the heartbeat of New York is corporate America. And so now when you start beating up the heartbeat of New York, it's going to be pushback. And I don't think

— [201:50.740 --> 201:59.240] that he's going to be able to deliver on that is what I'm saying. Okay. If he does, he does. I just don't, I think it's a farce. Yeah, I

— [201:59.240 --> 202:07.280] wouldn't say I wouldn't go that far. But I call it a farce. But I do think that his overall agenda

— [202:08.040 --> 202:16.120] is a progressive 1 and some of it can be enacted. You used the Trump example. Trump wasn't able to build a wall. I know. Trump told the niggas in West Virginia he was going to bring coal

— [202:16.120 --> 202:24.280] back. No, no, but hear what I'm saying. They voted for him. No, but hear what I'm saying. But the person who wanted Trump to build a wall had a certain vision of what the world should look like. And that vision

— [202:24.280 --> 202:32.440] is being enacted in policy. So maybe like only half of what they want that he promised, or even 25% of what he promised is there, but it's still moving in a different direction. The country is still moving in the direction

— [202:32.440 --> 202:40.500] that they want now. And I'm saying similarly with Mamdani, let's say he doesn't make buses free, but public transportation gets cut in half. Let's say

— [202:41.200 --> 202:49.400] we don't lower the price of rent, but rent control gets stabilized in more places. This is still a different direction. And I think for a lot of people, it's not just I'm saying the shit you want to hear, which I agree

— [202:49.400 --> 202:57.400] would be like empty, but I'm saying he's actually moving us in a different direction. And that's, and that's helpful. I agree with you on the Trump point and to is, but

— [202:57.400 --> 203:05.420] it's too faceted. So the Trump point where he appeals to the idea of these elitist or these racist or whatever, that is definitely moving in the right

— [203:05.420 --> 203:13.620] direction. But he also appealed to the desperation of the American people and he has not delivered on that. And a lot of people voted for him based on that particular thing

— [203:13.620 --> 203:21.660] that the people with the wall and the ice, they did, he doing what they want him to do. But over here, these motherfuckers that he appealed to them saying, yo, I'ma

— [203:21.660 --> 203:29.760] fix groceries, he has not done a fucking thing. I'ma lower gas, he has not done a fucking thing. I'ma bring jobs back to America, he has not done a fucking thing. And

— [203:29.760 --> 203:38.200] those are the things that got him elected to me. Right. And what I'm saying is what, and that's because some of those things to your point are outside of Trump's control, right? The things as a mayor of a city that

— [203:38.200 --> 203:46.240] he's proposing, I think, are much more actionable. If Mamdani were running for governor or president with the same proposals, I'd say, well, no, you know, this isn't doable. But

— [203:46.240 --> 203:54.460] mayors have been able to affect rent. Mayors are able to affect roads and they're able to affect housing. And I think that this is an opportunity. I mean, we'll obviously see,

— [203:54.460 --> 204:02.560] because I think he's going to win and we'll find out. But I think it's possible, at least doable. I don't think he's selling pie in the sky in a great buy and buy. We'll see. Because this

— [204:02.560 --> 204:10.600] is New York. This ain't my fucking, this ain't a regular city money. But you know, a lot of them rich New Yorkers, they wanted their shit to

— [204:10.600 --> 204:18.740] count in Florida. So they doing it 50, and for tax reasons, a lot of the most influential New Yorkers, They're not voting in New York, they're voting in Florida. So that's also a really important thing to

— [204:18.740 --> 204:26.760] think about in terms of who's gonna make this thing happen. But anyway, we'll find out. In closing, do you see Cuomo winning? No, I just think it's

— [204:26.760 --> 204:34.820] gonna be tighter than what people think. I think Curtis Lee-Wa is a Joke to most of the New Yorkers. I don't think he has the Republican vote I

— [204:34.820 --> 204:42.960] think Cuomo has the Republican vote and Malcolm you think I'm Malcolm. Yeah I think I think Leroy gets the majority

— [204:42.960 --> 204:51.080] them for public and vote. I don't see any way where he does What do you see winning? Mimdani by 60% got it got it, especially if Leroy gets the Republican vote He gonna

— [204:51.080 --> 204:59.160] wipe the board with everybody else across the across the thing We'll see Slee will keep posting pictures of him from 84

— [204:59.160 --> 205:07.380] dog. It's over Okay, nothing about that little Hells Angels hat you keep wearing. Guardian Angels. Guardian, yo. Don't disrespect the Hells Angels. He

— [205:07.380 --> 205:15.551] walked around being Guardian Angels today, these little niggas are switched. Hells Angels, Guardian Angels, Victorious Angels. Let me show you some Angels. California Angels.

— [205:15.551 --> 205:23.860] Yeah, yeah, all of the angels. Really good part today, Ice, before we leave, Disney pulls from YouTube all

— [205:23.860 --> 205:32.880] of their shit, which is FX, National Geographic, ABC. From YouTube TV. From YouTube TV, from channels. Yes. Close

— [205:32.880 --> 205:41.340] us out. Yeah, I got the email actually last night because I actually subscribed to YouTube TV you don't you don't have YouTube TV

— [205:45.620 --> 205:53.680] They had nothing to do with you. I know. He's like, I gotta run the water. He's like, no, fuck you, don't be. They gotta fucking run the water. And then they say, yo, he always competing

— [205:53.700 --> 206:03.280] with Joe. He wanna be like Joe. OK. That's a good 1. Yeah, they just, they say they couldn't come to terms. And

— [206:03.620 --> 206:11.680] what's happening is, what's happening is ESPN has their own app. I want

— [206:11.680 --> 206:20.000] you to come here. So I'm gonna charge you out the ass to go over there. To license it to y'all, I'm gonna put an astronomical

— [206:20.300 --> 206:29.540] number. Yeah, the company's gonna say, now we're not gonna pay that. Okay, cool, we don't want you to pay that. Now, everybody that wants to watch, all

— [206:29.540 --> 206:37.660] of that, bring it on over here. They've already consolidated their apps. They got a Disney, Hulu, and ESPN in 1 hub now. So yeah, I want

— [206:37.660 --> 206:45.760] you to come here. It makes all the sense in the world. If you got YouTube TV, you can screw right now. You can't see your ABC affiliates. You can't watch sports. You can't do a lot

— [206:45.760 --> 206:53.960] of stuff. So I hope they come I think you're gonna come to terms because I think Disney got him where they want them to your point But until you got to y'all go me y'all miss.

— [206:53.960 --> 207:02.080] Oh, yeah, it's the world series. Can you see the world? So you don't care but I have everything anyway, but yo Toronto, right getting busy They only They on

— [207:02.080 --> 207:10.140] the brink as of this conversation. Yeah, I don't want to date this podcast, but they got to show up tonight, the Dodgers. I think I've accepted that.

— [207:11.080 --> 207:19.180] As a Philadelphian, I hate the Toronto Blue Jays because of what they did to us back in 93. I can't get over that Joe Carter home run. The entire league would be happy

— [207:19.180 --> 207:27.260] if the Blue Jays win And I had to accept that because I can't the Dodgers put us out but I Came in here the other day and said are the Dodgers cheating?

— [207:28.380 --> 207:36.580] Like the Dodgers were viewed as this powerhouse unbeatable then they swap us last year, right? We want a game Oh, we want a game. That's

— [207:36.680 --> 207:44.920] it. Yeah Yeah, that that's not good. If you do that to the Yankees on the biggest stage, it's bad for the parity of baseball. You want

— [207:44.920 --> 207:53.100] the team that doesn't have this fucking, there's no salary cap in baseball. So you want the team that is built like a baseball team to beat the

— [207:53.100 --> 208:01.520] team that has spent 900 gazillion dollars on. Or to beat the super team. Yeah, exactly. That's all it is. Any time the super team makes it to the finals. Yeah. Yo, that's

— [208:01.520 --> 208:09.520] such bullshit. Cause when New York was building the super team, ain't no New Yorker say that. But the rest of the people did. The rest of the world did. The rest of the people did. We were all pissed. First we

— [208:09.520 --> 208:17.780] were having Boston build their own kind of super team, and then the Mets built their super team, but it didn't work. And then it was like, okay. No, the Yankees have been building 1 for 20 years.

— [208:17.920 --> 208:26.060] What you're saying is not fair. When the Yankees were doing this, when George Steinbrenner was alive, he was saying,

— [208:26.500 --> 208:34.520] I'm not doing anything that other teams cannot do. When he died, began bidding on players.

— [208:37.380 --> 208:45.660] But it changes everything. It does. But that's not just a salary cap. We've all got the same money, which was a lie too, because we all don't have the same. Well, that's what I was about to say. You have your own channel.

— [208:46.020 --> 208:54.640] New York has more money. Steinbrenner always had more money. The Mets weren't even winning and they had more money. Like the markets just have more money. But today when we're doing blind bids

— [208:54.920 --> 209:03.260] on superstar Japanese players and Dominican players, not just Japanese players, yeah, your money don't really matter at that point.

— [209:03.260 --> 209:11.400] Yeah, and I hope we get back to the point where farm systems matter. How your money don't matter at that point. Yeah, I disagree. It's a blind bid, you

— [209:11.400 --> 209:19.600] rich, I'm rich. We can all do the same thing. You can't see nothing that nobody is doing. Okay. Yeah, but if you look at the booth. So if you want this guy, right? Like

— [209:19.600 --> 209:27.820] this this new Japanese prospect, I wish I could get his name right now, but I don't have it. Everybody's gonna bet the house because of what's going on.

— [209:27.820 --> 209:35.940] Like we in the middle of something. But when homeboy went, the Red Sox was short by half of any millions, the Yankees were short for, and

— [209:35.940 --> 209:44.060] these are franchises in major cities that also have all the money in the world, we just not doing it. We can't see, we not willing to go that far. So it's how far are you

— [209:44.060 --> 209:52.260] willing to go? The Dodgers brought in new management, I mean, new ownership, fucking magic and all these niggas, they're just gonna operate differently. And

— [209:52.260 --> 210:00.260] they see the results of that. If I know my opponent got a lot of bread, and I got a lot of bread, I'm gonna shoot for the moon, put a

— [210:00.260 --> 210:08.860] number, even if you can afford it, you probably are not gonna interrupt you. Also what's not fair is when the bid for Otani was going, what

— [210:08.860 --> 210:16.980] they were saying in baseball circles was, this is a done deal for the Dodgers already. He's not willing to go to any other city. Japan is right there, he's close to the home, we in LA,

— [210:16.980 --> 210:25.020] it's just unfair on levels that have more to do with just money. Exactly. That's all I'm saying. I mean, I think every team has a, and if it were basketball

— [210:25.440 --> 210:33.580] where you got 12 guys and 1 player can really kind of change the whole franchise, I think it's easier for the smaller market team to stay in the mix. But in a baseball team, I mean, first of all, rarely

— [210:33.580 --> 210:41.580] is the guy a pitcher and an offensive player and a position player, right? But even if they were, if you're Milwaukee, that's a good example. The Brewers are an excellent baseball team, well structured,

— [210:41.880 --> 210:50.020] great line up, 1 through 9, strong bullpen. But they ain't got the money that the Dodgers have. They don't have the money that the Yankees or the Mets

— [210:50.020 --> 210:58.060] have. They could bid for an O'Tonnie type player. But it's a cap. But yeah, but it's an informal cap because then what you're going to do with the other positions as they age out, whereas the Dodgers can have

— [210:58.060 --> 211:06.160] 4 of those. The feeling is we got 3 guys, you know what I mean, that are making that. When we got Bryce Harper, we didn't blink. You know what I mean? Yankees and Mets don't blink.

— [211:06.180 --> 211:14.240] I think, and we still looking to step up. So I still think. You think there needs to be a salad cap in baseball? No, no, I don't think so. So then you can't bitch about the

— [211:14.240 --> 211:22.260] unfairness. You either can have it 1 way or another. Y'all not responding to everything you're saying. You're not just talking about the money. I know you're saying it's unfair

— [211:22.260 --> 211:30.520] stuff, but all of the unfairness that you based everything was on money. No, it's not true. No, like you based it on... L.A. Being right there by Japan. That ain't

— [211:30.520 --> 211:38.620] L.A. Fault. That's true. Certain niggas don't want to go to play for the bucks. They don't wanna be in Milwaukee. They prefer

— [211:38.620 --> 211:46.640] to be in bigger markets, larger markets. Yeah, Houston, I mean not Houston, Texas. Miami, Florida, They don't have state taxes. It's

— [211:46.640 --> 211:54.640] other things that go into where somebody wants to go to play. But you're making the point that can't be solved by salary cap. No, those things can't be solved

— [211:54.640 --> 212:02.960] by salary cap. But I'm saying for the Eon, you all just said that New York, based on demo, has more money than smaller market teams.

— [212:03.000 --> 212:11.080] I'd like to be creative about it. I understand what you're saying. We got a channel. Yeah. And it's New York City. We could charge more for a ticket in

— [212:11.080 --> 212:19.180] New York City than we could charge for it in... I don't, I guess sometimes I don't want to cap players money as a solution to this I

— [212:19.180 --> 212:27.180] don't know I don't have a solution on top of my head on how to fix this but I would imagine there's something other than a salary cap that we could think of That would allow at least these

— [212:27.180 --> 212:35.280] elite players To not keep going to the same 3 cities Or you put a rule in play. That's what I'm saying. I would

— [212:35.280 --> 212:43.520] think about it. Y'all can't have no more than 2. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. 2 max players or whatever you want to call them. That's what I'm saying. That would be a perfect example of how to do it. So we'll figure it out. Got it. This ain't

— [212:43.520 --> 213:02.220] Lil' Ken Mona. This is the original. I was about to start spitting. Look at Mona. Hey. Ha ha ha. I don't want dick tonight. Look at Mona real

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— [213:11.500 --> 213:19.940] neither Like that didn't have a miss I see why they got rid of that that club that y'all have

— [213:25.900 --> 213:34.460] Really enjoyed the topics late tonight, this was great it is again happy Halloween y'all out there Hopefully

— [213:34.460 --> 213:42.480] you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to beat it. Until the next

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— [213:58.900 --> 214:07.080] porno shit. Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past So let's make this 1 last as if it's all

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— [214:23.560 --> 214:32.060] clocks go back tonight. Yes sir, daylight savings. Wait a minute! What

— [214:32.060 --> 214:40.300] y'all doing this weekend? Since we talked about daylight savings. What y'all on? What y'all on out there? I'm in Chicago. All right. Shout out to the shot. Shout out to the shot. Quick stop

— [214:40.300 --> 214:48.760] in the shot. All right. All right. Halloween party, that's it. I'm not doing too much, man. I'll be spending some time with my youngest,

— [214:50.180 --> 214:58.440] my droppie morphin' around 11. Oh. Hey, wait a minute! Y'all hold it down,

— [214:58.440 --> 215:07.080] man. Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Shout to the parents out there, shout to the kids out there, everybody that dressed up for Halloween, hey!

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— [215:25.600 --> 215:33.660] of that, D! JVP, JVP, where were to be without the JVP? Well fold

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