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0:01 The thoughts, views and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious, 0:09 it is not real. No 1 is exposing, revealing, indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at 0:17 home. We are trained professionals. Do not have your best interests at heart. Or enjoy the show. I'm 0:45 gonna break it to my siblings soon. Let them know that we can stop. Yeah, yeah. That college fund? Prepare for Plan B. Get that Plan B ready. Yeah, all 0:53 that money you saving in college, you can splurge a little every month. Have dessert, take a vacation. You will not need that money. You will not need that money. Terrible. 1:01 You will not need it. You might get a grant. Scholarship. You don't even get a grant. State 1. I do 50 bucks. I don't count the grants for this. Yo. 1:13 Teach you how to make license plates for free. Yo, that's crazy. You terrible. Terrible, that's horrible. Is that bad, though? Yes. When you, 1:21 I'm not. It's a horrible realization. Is that bad when you know it? Not saying you telling that person. Yes you do know. When you know what? What are you talking about? Yeah 1:29 yeah. When you know what? When you know this 1 not going probably be as successful. Oh yes they talking about. Yeah I fixed your words. 1:37 I wasn't the 1 that said it. When you know a child won't be a success story. Horrible, yeah. That's what they talking about. No, they, 1:46 Mark and Ice, Specify the days. Mark and Ice are talking about when you know your kid or a kid that just 1:54 isn't going to make it far in life which I don't know how they got the album. I wasn't here So I'm still warming up. I'm still warming 2:02 up. Take it away. Go ahead. We were talking about the high school tracks. Cause it's like, you know, they got like the academic track for kids is going to college and AP this and 2:10 AP that. But like we were saying like, sometimes you need to bring that auto body shop back. You need to bring some things back. I agree with that. Yeah. But then you said in 1 school they got like they had I 2:18 was Yeah, they had cash register. It was like some of y'all Early I said a day high school. They 2:26 had a shop, right? What's going to that's crazy. What's cool? I was you went to Elizabeth Okay Said they I wasn't in a 2:35 prep. It was for some of y'all 1 go get there. You know, I tell you? They had, they had, they had. You talking about home economics? Home economics? No, no. He 2:43 talking about real. Like clean up on aisle 6. Yeah. There was a cash register. They had a real auto body shop. Like people literally bringing their cars there to get their cars working. That's fire. 2:51 They had a real metal, like metal, teaching you metalworking. Not just a class, but a real shop. And they had the shop right in front 2:59 of my, who, we don't need to give you AP history or English cause you not going no further than this. AP. That's 3:08 terrible, bro. Yeah, We don't need to give you AP history or English, because you're not going no further than this. The AP. That's terrible, bro. Yeah, we don't need to give you all. That's disrespectful. That's hard. If you call me and tell me my kid is going to go to auto shop, I might not 3:16 like it, I might make some, you know what I mean, I may ask some questions, but if you tell me my kid is gonna be a greeter. No, bro, but it's not saying that that's what your kid gonna be, we just gonna give you 3:24 these tools, because these are most likely, these are the tools that's probably gonna benefit you more. If the tools are folding. No, and the difference between 3:33 linen, and my, I don't too, right? I don't 3. What comes next? Not prepping my kid. I don't, 3:41 got it. Prepping my kid for the produce. I'm gonna be furious. The difference between a cherry tomato and getting paid 3:49 back in the f***ing Godhead. I'm good, bro. Is there a profession that y'all would be disappointed in if your kid came back, too? Like, Mark is saying it should involve 3:58 folding things. Like, if your daughter came to you and was like, Pop, I want to eventually own a bunch of Washing Folds, 4:06 but I'm starting with this 1. It's not paying me much, it's in the bad part of town, but it's gonna get me to where I gotta go. Would you be 4:14 disappointed in that? No, because you stated the end goal. The vision. Yeah, yeah, you stated the end goal. But if you just worked at the Washington fold. 4:22 How old are you? Call it 23. Oh, no. Wait. You should have bad parted out Washington folding. You 4:31 23. Something went wrong. Yeah, yeah, I went wrong somewhere. I fucked up. Yeah, I ain't gonna hold you. 18. Okay. She didn't go to college 4:39 and she's 18 and she's working? Yeah, I'm fine with this. I don't mind the fuck. I fucked up a little bit. I still would probably be trying to hook her up right here. Y'all daughters grow up in their nail techs. 4:50 Oh, man. All right, see. That's why I never mind. Y'all know I'm about to say. I'm about to sound like Shorty. I love girl dads. Never mind. 4:59 Never mind. We don't have to get out of school. Never mind. What was Shorty's name? Who? That you used to work with that state of the culture I worked with a bunch of amazing women 5:07 a state of culture You mean on air behind no the 1 that said the bus shabby Williams. I'm the K Williams I mean she got to be leaning to what on in the nail tech salon 5:16 That has to be a goal at some point. For me. I'm not sure where this is going. Are you smart? 18, working 5:24 at Snelltech? He ain't say 18. No, I'm not saying 18. No, no, no, no. You said 18 from the other 1. No, you're back 23 again now. Is you back 23? 25 even. For me, It's all in relation to the 5:33 investment. I've just invested too much money for that to be the outgo. I just made my last college tuition payment for my youngest daughter last 5:41 week. Yeah, dude. You spent 90K a year to go to college. I spent 90K a year on her college tuition. If she decided she was being Nel Tech, I'm gonna be mad as shit. Isn't that wrong being Nel Tech? I 5:49 just could have did that a lot cheaper. The amount of money I spent on college I could have bought her a shop right mm-hmm so the money that you 5:57 spent in your investment means and matters more than your child at any point figuring out what they want to do, 6:05 love doing and end up doing it. It would just affect how I feel about it. Ultimately, I would accept it, but I'd still be pissed because of how much money I put into it. And I think it's, 6:13 I still think it depends on what your end game is. So if you start out as a nail tech, that's cool. But in some point in the future, you want to own your own nail 6:22 spa. Cool. You want to start hiring estheticians. You want to hire these people. Like I'm not mad at that. When we go get our nails done, they make 6:30 hella money. We, y'all 2 get your nails done? Yeah, together. Mark, you've seen my nails be beautiful today. No, I meant together. No, no, no, I'm saying the place that he goes. I meant together. 6:38 No, the place he goes I used to go to, they packed. Oh, okay. The spot I go to now, they make mad bread. So I wouldn't dissuade my kid from wanting to go that route, But I just 6:46 think that you shouldn't be just content with being a nail tech forever. That's my opinion. I'm good with any job, just dignity or labor. You go with your 6:54 bullshit. No, no, no. I'm just saying, but don't make me spend, don't let me pay for you to do it. But nobody made you do it. All right, so wait, Mark. Wait, who made 7:02 you do that? She could've. Who made him do that? She told me she wanted to go to college. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then you switch up, you change, and then you realize, I don't wanna do 7:10 this no more, but now I'm already invested in. I, I, wait, so your investment, you told me about college, you not even told me about like paying just for private school up in Toka. Oh, don't forget the shit. 7:19 Because that 1 maybe I could kind of understand where you going maybe. The private school shit. You paid for college? What the fuck did you do? You 7:27 are trying. I was actually. Oh, please. That shit is expensive, my nigga. I know it is, but you, I guess the people that do it, and I'll stay 7:35 out of this, cause this is not my area. I guess the people that do it do do it with expectation. Yeah. You told me she wanted to be a lawyer. No, or you just, 7:44 we've been taught this, right? We all have been taught. And I think, I think, I think the sentiment is now changing. But to get ahead in this world, 7:52 there are certain things that you have to do. Yep. Right? That's what we've been taught. So go to college, get yourself equipped 8:01 to get a certain type of job that's gonna sustain a future for you and your family. We've been taught that. Now we are on the influencer entrepreneurial 8:10 thing, but there's still skills needed to do that. But if you spent, my kid's daycare is high as 8:18 shit. Ice? No, that shit is high. And then when you start going to middle school, high school, some of these high schools are 30K. You spend $30, 000 a 8:26 year to put your kid in school from middle school to 12th grade, and then they go to school for 90k a year for the next 4 to 5 years because a lot of these degrees not 8:34 four-year degrees no more day 5 so that's another 450 grand and then they come to you and say dad I learned 8:42 that I want to be an MC mm-hmm okay I'm actually okay with no no I'm not I'm not okay with the 8:50 guy I think it's slightly different I'm not saying you go to college Y'all always preach to me and again, I'm shutting up on this college tip. This is not my bag. 8:58 This college stuff. But y'all always preach to me about the networking and getting out the house 9:06 for the first time. I love brothers in college. I seen them in my dad and they room in my dad's house their whole life. Now they in college. They meeting kids from other 9:15 places, meeting girls with different goals. Like y'all always taught me that that experience. It's the most valuable part of it. It's part of it. So you say it. 9:23 It's part of it. If you go do that, and now for the first time, a lot of kids are learning themselves and finding themselves outside of 9:31 the academic portion of this. And you learn what you now enjoy doing, maybe wanna do, maybe got a friend or 9:39 frat brother that done preached being a salesman is the way to go on a May 200. I know how did you hear some shit when you were here. And you give a shot because you got time on your side. 9:48 Like I wouldn't expect to go to my parents and be met with disappointment when I learned what I truly wanna do. Now 9:56 again, again, I never told my mom that I wanna be a professional rapper. So, or my dad. 10:04 So I mean the disappointment comes from whatever you're telling them, yo, this is what I want to do. Realistically, is 10:12 it sustainable? That's where the disappointment comes in. Cause like, like even, even you said the MC example, I'm gonna be disappointed at that because 10:22 the odds are not really in your favor. I think that's slightly different. Cause I think in MCing or in any type of artistic endeavor, having a 10:30 college backup plan is good A for that and B you'll learn so much in college from like a worldly perspective that will help you relate 10:38 or translate. It'll make you a better artist. Even if you're a business major and now you want to be an MC, the way you go take these meetings at the label and all that other shit may be 10:46 a little different. I think it's different from something that's super hyper localized like a Nail Tech, where you could have done that, you know what I'm 10:54 saying, without necessarily leaving, you don't need all the connections and community building that happens at college and all that kind of shit. And maybe not those connections. Honestly, you 11:02 might be better if I'm going to be a nail tech in Newark, I'm just going to say Newark. It's better for you to go to Rutgers Newark than Harvard. If you want to build connections and build, this is 11:10 what I'm saying, it's about what you're doing with those connections. I don't know if I would communicate the disappointment though to my kid. I would be disappointed, but 11:18 I would encourage them. But deep down, yeah, I'd be a little salty. Like I got to, I'll give you an example. I got a family member who, they went through nursing school and 11:27 towards the end decided, I don't want to do this. And their parents paid to put them through nursing school. Now I just want to get a regular job. 11:36 I realized this late in the game that I don't do. As a parent, you disappointed as fuck. Yeah. I feel like as a parent, there's just certain 11:44 L's you got to take as a parent. Yeah. You can still be disappointed in taking the elder. But I understand, Mark. Now, you 11:52 wouldn't say I'm disappointed. You would go to the adult room. And scream in the pillow. And close the door. Yeah. And privately soak. 12:01 You scream into the bottom of the bottle. Okay. And take it. I'm with that. I'm with privately soaking over some shit my kid did. You still support your kid? 12:10 We still talking from position of privilege Mark was privileged enough to be able to spend $90, 000 a year on his kids education now imagine if you took 12:18 out student loans for that money as a parent now you got a half 1000000000 dollars in debt I mean half 1000000 dollars in debt 12:26 now for your kids education and they don't want to do that shit You still got to pay these motherfuckers back 150 grand interest. 12:35 You better go flip some birds or something you got to get my bread back. So I don't know. Why? No, no, no, that's when it comes full circle to looking 12:43 at the picture and say maybe the folding glass. That's what I'm saying. Ain't nothing wrong with folding some shit up or making a champ burger 12:51 checkers Everything is alright Champ burger days you gotta see the potential early like you know what you gonna be 12:59 a hide over there in checkers, you know This is what I'm thinking of 1 of my my family members right now. I'm gonna send him my app. Extra 13:08 cheese. I don't know if he can handle extra cheese. Get the burger on the grill. Some of that is unfair, because Some of you parents out there is losers 13:16 and think you didn't pass down your loser game. Oh, shame. That is a fast answer. Like, what the fuck you expect your kid to do? Nigga, look at you. Ain't doing shit. 13:25 What you doing? Dog slap, bro. That's bad? Yes. All right, so I got a song for you, though. Thank you. I got a song for you though. Thank 13:33 you, bro. Parents just be expecting the best from their kids. Oh, you expect them to do better than you? But sometimes that'd be irrational. Why? That's 13:42 your goal. Yes, that's every parent's goal. Hopefully. Should be. Well, we talking about good parents. I think even bad 13:50 parents don't know. They recognize they in a fucked up circumstance and they don't want their kids to be in the same circumstance. Listen, you're wrong. You don't watch Evil Lives Here. It's not all parents. What 13:58 the fuck is that? I'm telling you, buddy. It's not all parents. Evil lives here, very scary people. You don't. I 14:06 can tell just by what you're saying. These parents killing the shit out of their kids. Yeah, this is my shit. Yo! These 14:15 parents and vice versa and kids. Yo. They have been so heated I'll argue my girls about so much it I'll tell you about 14:23 it 1 of them was Family family they happy already husband Wife and their ten-year-old 14:31 daughter they adopts a kid at 16 years old. Pause. I think 14:39 I'm with you. Pause. Already. Pause. First 3 minutes of the show. Excuse me? Why are we adopting a 16 year old? Get a dog. 14:49 No, get a 6 year old. Get a 4 year old. Somebody that I can help hold. And this family wanted to, you know, pick a kid and help him out of a horrible situation. 14:57 Nigga, at 16, no. You done. And This was a girl, a 16 year old girl. So they're talking to, they keep showing the daughter, 15:05 let me speed this up. It's keep talking to the 10 year old who's now an adult, who's saying this girl was strange from the start. So 15:13 now the whole house is learning in real time that dad is a pedophile. Oh, fuck. Dad done started dating the 16 year old that 15:22 they adopted and now she's shading the mom because bitch you coming in between him and my man and the dad. What? And Don't 15:30 you know this girl in the middle of the night poke mama up 178 times God did With 15:40 both of the other kids in the house because they had another younger kid Yes, yes Totally 15:48 predictable. Yeah, yeah, but I hear nothing about that We already knew it was going you said 16 Yeah, that's different. Adopt. But totally predictable. Yeah, when I hear it, somebody says, we already knew where it was going when you said 16. I didn't know this would not be predictable for your husband 15:56 to fall in love with his 16 year old adopted daughter. That is insane. There are some sick people in the world. What do you have to word? Yeah, I think. 16:05 Anyway, sorry about that, you guys. I don't know how we're gonna do this. Hey, I want the best for y'all, y'all's kids. I hope they grow up to not be nail techs. 16:15 Unless that's what they look like. But I can shop to the nail techs. But if they're great at it. I'll go get your kids a little $24 or some 16:23 shit. It ain't gonna be $24. They good at it. You better tip good, too. I tip good. That shit ain't $24. My kid come back and be like, Joe left me 16:31 $5. I'm gonna be mad as hell. No, no, I take it. I ain't gonna do that to y'all's kids. About 8. Yeah, man. No, 16:39 they make money. Oh, yeah. You gotta own it, though. My girl told me we was taking Valentine's Day off. 16:50 What does that mean? We fell for it. We came to a pact that we were going to take Valentine's Day off. Meaning no 16:59 gifts, No celebration, no nothing. Just treating it like a regular Saturday. Joe. Joe Button. I fell in love even more. 17:07 Oh, that's dope. She feel me. Like she understand. You did not fall for that. I didn't. What was it a fall for about taking off? I ain't drop out that early. I 17:15 know what take off mean. Obviously you don't in a relationship. There's levels to take off. Don't you know ever since you've been talking about I ain't getting no flowers? Yeah. Yeah. 17:23 So now we just fighting about what take off means. Man, get some flowers. It means she off you on. No, it means We ain't doing all of the extra 17:31 extra extra above and beyond wild to the moon ship But we got to get some regular flowers. Yeah The 17:40 problem is when that moment happens like y'all are making sense the same way she did I say what my brain is thinking. Oh. 17:49 Sound like Cory, that's never a good thing. Now, I want you to want to say that, right? Look at the dog. I always go get these elaborate expensive 17:57 ass bundles of 9000000000000 flowers. They die, you get on a plane, I carry them to the trash. And then be that. Yeah. 18:06 Take off me and I don't have to do. That's not what's out. That's not what's out. Is that all, bro? She said offset. She 18:15 said offset. He's making a take off. I get it. Which led to the next discrepancy of kicking somebody out 18:24 versus asking them to leave Could 18:39 you leave my house, please that's asking them to leave Get the fuck out is kicking them out. Asking to leave versus kicking someone 18:47 out is not the same. And too many chicks on Instagram be trying to get that off. I'd see it when they start, oh, they're gonna kick me out, and kick me out, and then the girls start rallying. 18:55 How do they kick you out? Well, sometimes it ain't a kick out. Sometimes I'm asking you to just leave. Sometimes it is just time to 19:03 go. Hey, I got your flight book. Bad timing, but wait. Not in this case. We're not really seeing eye to eye. Would you mind leaving? It only 19:11 become a kick out when they say no. Don't leave. Don't wanna leave. So it's not the same, but anyway, yo, 19:19 I got a beautiful song queued up. There we go. Yeah. How about it? Yeah. Let's see here. Please. Yeah. 19:28 Shout out to all the ladies out there. Shout out to all the happy couples out there. Shout out to our ladies. Hey. Hey. Love you, baby. You need some mercy. You 19:37 need this. Nah, we doing great, but gotta understand what some terms mean. Wow. I 20:00 What's that? Do you ice, oh, shoot? Who is 20:08 that? It's Markle Barr Hill, pussy. What episode is this? 904. Welcome to episode 904 of 20:17 the Joe Budden podcast. I'm your humble, grateful, gracious, extremely happy to be here host Joe Budden. This broadcast is brought to you by Fuel 20:25 Buy, Power Buy, Price Fix, Price Fix Gang. Yeah. And I'm here with some really amazing people to my right. Shout out to our boy, Queens Flip, who is at Carnival. 20:34 Yes. Having a blast. He's living in a whole new world. This nigga's living. Yeah, he's having a good time out there. Shout out to Flip here with us in spirit. To my 20:42 right, our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill. How you doing, man? Hanging in there, man. Rough week. Good, good, good. Everything all right? Yeah, yeah, 20:50 my son's sick. He's been in the hospital. And just then ripping and running. Was traveling all weekend, but Sunday kicked my ass. 20:59 Gotcha. Flew to Arkansas and back and been in the hospital. But you know, it was life. Glad to have you back. Glad to be here man. Strong up. Safe. Strong. 21:08 Anytime there's an airport in Mark's story, he don't go well. That is a fact. That's true. He ain't noticing the signs. Oh 21:18 man, next to him, man, our good brother, Mr. Thousand Doors and up. Biggish in the building. How you feeling, man? I'm well, you so? 21:26 Real good, real good, man. See you outside. Yeah, we were outside this weekend. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll talk about it. I made a couple 21:35 of quick little stops. What did you do, Mr. Prodigy? Nothing at all. Stayed in the house. In the house the whole time? Okay. Yeah. 21:46 Mark, don't start your shit. I ain't start nothing, man. You know what they say when we on the same couch. Yeah, yeah But I mean the 21:54 prodigy shit was Happy I understand is so I understand the mistake he be making but it's still always funny. What's the mistake? 22:03 He puts the punch in the front and 22:13 then doesn't explain it properly, just continues with the story as if it's understood. Right. Rather than 22:21 at the end, after he's properly been able to explain whatever the fuck he's trying to say, and then that. That 22:30 makes sense. There's a lot of the fans that have been wondering about your child prodigy statement. It's been on the internet. I know you don't read it, that's what I'm telling you. They mentioned 22:38 it. And so- They've been having a blast. They've been having a blast. I don't, I mean, I'm sure- It ain't us, buddy. It ain't us. 22:47 I didn't say a word. I ain't say nothing. You never finished the thought, though. What were you a prodigious in? I 22:55 was academically inclined as a kid. I skipped first grade. They wanted to skip me from second grade. My mother said, no, I could have been damn near 23:03 10 years old in high school 11 years old in high school. Yeah, I'm your friend. I know what you 23:13 I'm friends with you and I always thought you was a prodigy since we met Come 23:30 on man the freezes of them all big ices in the building, how you doing, Freeze? I'm great, I'm great, I'm great. Good, good, I'm glad to hear that, man. I loved your 23:38 IG, your Valentine's Day IG photo, man. It was real fly. Thank you. Appreciate it. Beautiful. Me too. Okay, thank you. Anybody seen 23:46 it but me, I ain't seen it. Why you look at me? Nah, I just said thank you. Shines to my baby. What'd he do? None. Real good bitches. She, she- Is 23:54 little icy. Is lady look wonderful. They were decked out. Ice kept his face kind of away from the camera a little bit. Yeah, he had the big chain on. He had the big chain on. Oh, 24:02 yo. He was rich. Rich, yo. I was wondering about that, but I was chilling. Big chain, big watch. Freeze. And all my splendor. Yeah Sometimes 24:11 you guys just say it Count just such few words Well, I didn't see 24:19 it So could you explain to me what they're saying? They were showing the fuck out. That's what it was. We went out. We had a good time. They look great. We went out. You put all the jewels on? All of them. All 24:27 of them. We went out. Namely, the love of his life. Exactly. That was the gym. But he had his jewels. But there was some other 24:35 jewels. We went out. Y'all did it right. We did a nice dinner, then went and got up with our peoples and we went to the spot. Yeah. 24:44 Are you bashful or something? Why are you... Am I? This is it. We just... But talk your shit though, nigga. There's 24:52 no shit to talk, bro. I don't stunt. Your shoulders is sinking in? I don't stunt. Come on, nigga. I don't stunt. You threw all the jewelry on and stepped out with your queen. What we talking, 25:00 what we doing? Valentine's Day. That's what I did. We went out. Went to the spot, we ain't waiting no line. What we talking about that? So why you not saying what happened man? 25:09 Cuz I don't do that. We had a good time bro. I'm coming here pop shit Yes, we're the shit for 25:17 us He was like y'all accommodate y'all. Then my man over here, we took care of everything. We good, nigga. We went in there like superstars. That's what I'm looking for. 25:26 That's what we want to do. That's what we want to do. That's what I'm looking for. Because the only pick I saw, and then I'm introducing Parks, was the boxer briefs that 25:34 were floating around. Huh? Yeah. Huh? She got me some boxer briefs with her face on it. No, not 1 face. 25:42 No, her face all over. All over the boxers. I wanted the clown, but me and freeze be down. So I mean I wear some shit. I'm where 25:50 I Where what? Yeah gonna wear You're gonna You 26:00 are gonna wear You don't think you're not gonna wear them, do you? You don't think, there we go. As you know. Nah, for sure I'm gonna wear 26:08 them. I would wear them if my girl got me them fucking some doofy shit. You know your girl's gonna do some doofy shit. Of course. She do all that shit. I love it though. But yeah. 26:17 We had a great time though, great, great Valentine's Day. How wonderful. Yeah, you wanna say something? Oh damn, I can't, 26:25 I don't, yo, Parks like. I love love. I love love. It's just that, that's head ass shit. Yeah? Like we do head ass shit. That's what Valentine's Day is, no days off, man. Yeah, 26:33 we do all that head-ass shit, I love it. I know we have a, oh, Amiris Finest Parks is here. What's bobbing? We 26:41 have a board. It's a lot to talk about today. There is a lot to talk about. On my board that didn't make it, on 26:50 my board that I had to erase, Easter was on there. Okay. I got talked out of it 26:58 so I'm not doing it. But I'd be... I don't even want to ask. I don't think I want to ask. What 27:07 are y'all doing this Easter? I didn't know that that was... Y'all don't do things on Easter? No, we don't do that anymore. 27:15 Don't get dressed up. Don't do nothing on Easter. You know, wearing your lavender suit and going out like that. With that pastel going and shit. Might 27:23 take the kids to that. I mean, we got small kids, so you gotta do something with the Easter eggs and all that shit. I'm not a fan of that. You gotta baptize them or some shit, right? Yeah. 27:31 What you gotta do? Sneak yourself. They like the Easter egg hunt shit, so I might take them in. I don't do that. That's the first time you give 27:39 red wine some shit, right? Yeah, once. Wait. I told you I erased it. Bo is here. Cory is 27:47 here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savanna here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every 1 27:55 of you guys are here. We couldn't do this without your participation. The lovely people. Where do we begin? We had a 28:03 fun little weekend. We were outside. Went to a new edition. Tony Braxton, Boyceman at Prudential on Friday. Yes, we did. Thanks to 28:11 Joey. Got us a nice little suite. The sweet suite. Decked out with all the goodies. Now, Parks and Imani 28:19 and Parks' beautiful wife and Nat and Rachel were there at the suite when I walked in. Yeah we got there first. So the rest of 28:27 my joke don't really apply to them But boy did I feel so bad. When you book these 28:35 like group meetups, like I don't be the best at delivering all the information. It was some parking passes I forgot to say. 28:44 You motherfucker. I asked about it. Parking was shit. That's when I went and looked. I actually got a good smile. We got a few parking passes. 28:52 I was like, oh wow. 50 it is. And then it was the number there that was like, yo, when you get up here, hit me, 29:01 so we're going to take care of it. So by the time I walked up and hopped out of wherever I was supposed to be, the newer cops was out 29:09 there, they must have been Joe Button fans. Boy, did they clear the street for me. Brought me right to the contact guy, skipped the line, bumped some fat 29:17 girl in line, move. Because it'd be the fat girl that's mad that you skipped in everybody. You heard me say excuse 29:25 me 50 times, right? Move. Oh, but then I felt so bad because anybody else was like, 29:33 yeah, it wasn't me. It was bad. My poor mom was in line. We didn't have no- People was telling me. Oh shit. 29:41 Oh shit. Holy shit. I was wondering why they got there so late. Damn, damn, Joe. Yeah, it was hard. That was crazy. Well, no, I'm joking around, but we had a 29:50 great time, sweet, full of food. Tony Braxton, new addition, and Boys 2 Men did the whole Kendrick, SZA, In-N-Out, interchangeable. 29:58 There's no opening act thing, So that was great. Sean Stockman called me the next day for my thoughts on it because 30:06 he was going to listen to the pod. So he didn't want to hear nothing 30:16 slick. So I told him I really enjoyed the show and I did really enjoy it. It was good from what I could hear. The show. When the mics were 30:24 on it was great. It was great. But it may have only been a third of the time but. Yeah. There was some sound issues with the microphone. Yeah. With the microphones. It 30:33 was rough. Like the TV track was definitely TV tracking early on they eventually tried to get it fixed at some point through the show so it did get better 30:41 but now you can tell her Tony Braxton got her shit right before he stepped on that stage again yeah Tony Braxton was not playing with that sound. You know it's mic 30:49 issues because too many of these people you already know can say yes. You know Tony Braxton is not trying to do no TV track. She want 30:58 yay all them boys to men. Nick's are saying Ricky Bell could saying route. Tres man want to sing Johnny Gill want to say sure I did Johnny got this. He 31:06 fixed the microphone please. So the singers can sing especially on candy rain and all of it, but like the 31:14 super duper smashes when the mic is dropping out. It's like candy girl candy girl my bad my bad I'm like wait wait yeah no it was it 31:22 was I thought it was where I because I wasn't up in the suite I thought it was just I was in a bad location I went up to the suite to hear it better and then we later found out he's 31:30 on the front row right yeah so you know sometimes when you yeah you had the speaker you get a true stan yeah like look cool man like you want 31:38 it I'm not seeing your Instagram pose. Oh Bobby Brown you did it. You took my gold girl Such 31:46 a fucking do we Yes You're such a fucking dweeb. Yes. Yes. We had to do what he put. I saw his story. It ain't been no more. 31:54 Because it didn't happen. Wait, you lying. I said, damn it, Bobby, you took my girl. That's when I wrote up my story. No, You didn't say that. Because that's your wife. Right. 32:03 Ah! I took my wife! Ah! Ah! Well played, well played. Yeah, no, it was good. It's just the audio. You 32:11 just couldn't. I couldn't hear it. The mics were dropping up. A lot. A lot. And you could see them getting frustrated on stage. I thought Juanita was gonna kill somebody. Yes. And he deserved to. 32:19 Oh yeah, you could tell, see we did shows before, you could tell who's about to die and who's screaming on who and what that backstage looked like. At some point, the stage 32:28 was having a trouble with the elevators that was bringing them up and down. So at 1.1 of them niggas got stuck. Somebody got stuck in 32:36 there. That's where Chris Brown got stuck. That's where he got stuck at, yup. Yeah, but Chris Brown is young enough and agile enough to hang in the air for 32:44 20 minutes. Yeah, he can escape. And still sing and shit And all that. Biv. Bobby, what is this guy? Biv on the other hand. He's 32:53 60. See, and also that's the thing too, right? I was young. Like I bought Boys 2 Men Motown Philly album when I bought Mariah 33:02 Carey, Vision of Love album, I got my first boombox, I might've been 11, 12, 10, somewhere around there. Yeah, 10. 33:12 And New Edition found them, I knew Boys to Men was the New Edition song, So I just always look at new edition as so much older than Boys To Men 33:21 until this night. Yeah. The show. You were- Well, 33:29 actually- They are. No? No. They only about 5 years apart. I think no This 33:43 what I'm saying is This was the first night I googled how old are 33:51 these motherfuckers? We were doing the same shit. How old is new addition? And 34:00 I gotta tell you. Yeah nigga. He changed the name. They 34:08 should put new in nothing. No additions. The additions. Those brothers, not all of 34:16 them. But Bobby, Biv, Devo even had this 34:25 malnourished look about him. And then the dance steps, It was all the dance steps from Motown. Yes. 34:34 There was the Motown. But back when you could do it. But no, these steps was made for a 60-year-old. Motown steps. 34:42 They made those steps look old. Yeah, a couple of them. I googled the shit out of how old these brothers were the youngest 1 is 34:50 57 Yeah, yeah, nigga boys to men is 55 and 54 Yeah, yeah, 35:00 yeah, yeah, yeah no addition started so much earlier than boys the man It's like the JZM I don't say they might as different because they came out 35:08 And then Bobby Brown half the night was giving everybody his ass to kiss. He still think that he old Bobby. He still think that he's my prerogative 35:17 Bobby. So at 1 point he looked at the crowd and said y'all want to see some dance moves now mind you I've been watching him all night. He ain't bus not a move so 35:26 the audience done fell for this. They scream yeah go crazy. Bobby said Google me I 35:35 love that nigga man. I do I do. I do have to say Bobby Brown sounded really good considering the fact that he was never like the most fucking amazing 35:44 vocalist. Like, He sounded good. His voice hasn't changed. Yeah. Yeah. Bobby Brown, a lot of them said, he remind 35:52 me of me when I used to go to the club with a group and just walk away. He walk away a lot. 36:00 A lot. I used to go to the club with a group of like 4 to 7 people and whenever they got situated, I just got away from them. I 36:08 didn't tell them where I was going, what I was going to do. That's what Bobby did all night long. I'm dicks. That's crazy. Couple times he was catching his 36:16 breath on the side. Yeah, facts. Like a heart. Like when we used to play basketball? Yes. No, the whole show was a little bit like us playing basketball. Yeah. Oh, 36:25 yeah, no. It goes. Yo, fuck. Dog, it was 1 point where Boys 36:33 2 Men came out at the tail end of whatever new additions that was. And Boyz II Men came to the front because it was like a 3 stage 36:42 thing. And they said, all right y'all, if it's all right with y'all, new edition is gonna stay on with us a little bit. 36:50 Oh, shit. And sing these backgrounds. The crowd went crazy. Ah, yeah! I was like, oh shit! Nigga! 37:00 45 seconds later. I just lost it, man. New edition, The Fucker's on stage! 37:08 Hey, hey, hey! Yo, This show was so great. It was a really good show. All 37:17 jokes aside. It was so many hits. And because unlike the, you know, like the Kendrick Scissor show where like, if you're not a fan of 1, it was like a dramatic change. This was so many iterations because it would 37:25 be like Johnny Gil would do some solo set. Then you might have a BBD thing. Then you have Tony Braxton. Then you have all the new edition. Then you might have, you know what I'm saying? Got it, got it, got it. So every, it was all these different like 37:33 pieces that all sounded good yeah they were great they would have sounded good had the mics but the mics were working yeah and between all of the renditions 37:41 there ain't nothing but hits nothing but hits 2 hours of hits straight And they lucky it was I tell you that much if a song came on and this crowd 37:49 didn't know Had to depend on the mics I'm sure the crowd was singing 37:58 all the songs. Oh for sure you had to I was in heaven in there. Ralph did do what I gotta do. Ralph bodied. 38:06 Ralph bodied and Johnny Gil bodied. Johnny Gil bodied. Johnny Gil sang his face off. The whole Boyz II Men bodied, obviously. Tony bodied, obviously. Ricky Bell went crazy, too. 38:15 I saw Ricky. There were parts of the night where I couldn't tell who the best singer was. I saw Ricky Clips. Because Ricky Bell sounded crazy. I saw some clips. 38:23 Boyz II Men sounds crazy. Ralph sounded good. Johnny at some point walked into the stage. Johnny I feel like was buying them time. 38:31 Johnny was doing the most. With them ad lib riffs. Oh, it might have been that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the walking ad lib. I don't feel like that was a part of the show. It didn't look like that. I think there was chaos backstage, and Johnny 38:40 said, yo, I'm gonna get, he walked in the crowd and just did held notes for 2 to 3 minutes of woo woo woo woo, high notes, 38:48 and if he would have had some cherries, he would have been on some usher shit. Like that's how he was looking out there and Johnny looked good too. He did. Also 38:57 though newer couch. Couch a few words. No I ain't got no problems. 39:05 Then freeze. It was just fun. Yo, I'm gonna break this couch up. I'm telling y'all this iteration of y'all is getting 39:14 broken up. I know. You do know? No, I peeped. It's 100% coming. I peeped. Okay. I already see the play Yeah, 39:22 cuz y'all 2 together boy seen the play. So you're not gonna say what y'all laughing at about Johnny Gil Y'all think he was gonna put the cherries in come on I'm a walk. 39:30 I don't know where he was putting the cherries at cuz I walk I don't know what Johnny Gill did have on their hearing Yeah, he had on their hearing His 39:43 leather biker setup I 39:53 just said mad words. I'm not you said word salad. What you was trying to get at I said enough for the audience Under dig what I'm saying Anyway, 40:10 shout out to Johnny Gil. He sounded great. He sounded great. Everybody was great. I am going to make that show at the Barclays. I would like to see it again with better sound. I'm going to the market. I'm going 40:18 to the bar. What is that 1? I told you about Prudential, but I can't say nothing because they showed me an amazing night. Yeah, food was good. And I raised sweet. Prudential be lit, though. 40:26 I don't think it's a Prudential thing, yo. That's why I've been needing my girl, too. She wasn't here when I had to pick the food for the sweet. You just got everything. Everything. Everything. 40:35 I'm about to say that's what that's for. No. We ain't done that shit. Had like 4 chips and a whole sandwich and got it all 40:43 away. I got everything. Yeah. But why you ain't it? Steaks, sushis, pastramis. Once I saw the, there was hot dogs next to the sushi Hot 40:51 dogs Fucking what else Some weird steak sandwiches, it was a lot of shit up there It was mad food up there, we didn't eat shit Yeah, It 41:00 was good from what I ate, but it was too much shit. My little bite of my sandwich I took was good. But it didn't tell me a good time. That sweet life ain't bad. Then we went to see Jill on Saturday. 41:09 And then Saturday night, we did go see Jill Scott. How was that? What? That shit was like the fucking warmest hug you ever felt in your life on Valentine's 41:17 Day. Yeah. Yeah. She bodied it. She's so good. She would have meowed your heart out. Oh yeah, you'd been up there purring, meowing, rubbing 41:25 your face against shit. Oh man. Oh, so many meows. This thing is full. Absolutely beautiful show. It was the 6 41:33 of the 3 of us with our significant others so nice little table. It was jam-packed. People don't like stand by a section outside. 41:44 Good luck. Good luck to that. So that whole area is dirty. That's a fact. I 41:52 don't go, I ain't been over there since I was getting my fake ID or village underground. Like when we was over there, that's when we would walk places, 42:00 remember? Yeah. I don't know where it's at. That's when we was at West 3rd. The village. West 3rd, that's when we would just, yo. That's priming. You look at your friend 42:08 and be like yo you want to hop on a train and hit West fourth yeah yeah yeah I do my shit I do want to do that and to be fair that the city looks 42:16 absolutely fucking disgusting now because that's no shit so it's bad but it's dirty in general but it's extra dirty right now. But we got 1.5 42:25 billion in funding so that'll help soon. We did. I wasn't 42:33 trying to be funny. I ain't saying nothing. He do need to get that snow up though. I know that's our man. But it's fucked 42:41 up. It's been 2 months. He's like, get him out. It's 50 outside. Yeah, 42:49 yeah, yeah. Can't be in all that shit going up. And when the dirt be on the snow, they should look crazy. And they couldn't pick up garbage 42:57 for that long because it's too much snow. So there's bad garbage all up in the snow. Like it's bad. It's bad. Then on the news, they sandwiched that story between 43:06 them New York banning glue traps for the rats. So right after they show the dirty snow, they show you all the mice and the 43:14 rats just creeping around. You gotta stop watching the news. It's too much entertainment. Why is there any glue traps? Is it inhumane? Is it the argument? I think it was on mute. You think I 43:22 turned it up for that 1? No, it's on mute. But it says New York City banned the glue traps. I don't 43:30 know why. Okay. I'm sure it's some health concern. It's probably a human health concern. Oh, wait, wait, wait. All right, hold on. I'm gonna take the glue over the Mises, bro. We ain't doing 43:38 that. I mean, y'all had mice in the crib growing up, right? What I'm saying, I had some. I had some. As opposed to the trap that- You don't have 1 to get on that trap? I don't know. The most humane way to kill a mouse is on 43:46 a mousetrap. 1 of them. A snap-trap. Or get a cat. That shit don't be working, man. That ain't shit. No, I can't. No, I'm not going to do that more. Them nog rats have beat 43:54 the dog shit out of the cats. I've seen them niggas take the cat food. They don't give a shit about the rats. Why don't you stop getting rescue cats and go 44:02 pick a cat like a man now the rescue cats what do you want? Jump 44:11 the shit out of Raven punk ass. So you misrepresent Raven again on this big national broadcast. You know Raven's body. We don't even have to go. I ain't gonna pull 44:19 a Raven. Y'all know Raven's body. So we don't have to do that. Against niggas that ain't gonna fight back. Stop it, Ish. I don't know. Stop it, Ish. I know. You know better than what you said. Raven might not have won, but Raven would have 44:27 fought. Nigga, Raven fought Skunks. What are you talking about? Skunks don't want no problems. He's flipping them, man. Raven Ford possums my dead cat. 44:36 That's not playing with Raven. Press the peace, Raven. You know about Raven. You seen Raven make it home from Route 4 when we lost the nigga. Stop playing with 44:44 my cat. I was moving from Edgewater to Englewood. Had the cat in the U-Haul, some halfway through River Road, Raven 44:52 jumped out, jumped out the window. Boom, booked it. I was so sad, but mad people are following, so there's nothing we can do. And they said, don't 45:00 worry, just go back there in a couple of days and Raven gonna find his way, find a way home. And sure enough, that's what happened. And he know these stories about Raven. 45:09 So I don't know why you're playing with that. But anyway, what were we talking about? Something important. Oh, the jail show, the jail show. Oh, so it's so dirty over there. 45:17 So I pulled up like AGI mean, black SUV, all the dirty fucking hipster kids outside 45:25 trying to peek move, nigga, get out of here. So hit 1 of these niggas. We pull up, hop out, line wrapped 45:33 around the corner. I walk right to the front as if I'm performing. And they said, we got you, man. Come 45:41 right in. I said, all right, I'm gonna go get my lady. I went and got my lady, came back to the door. They said, I'm not letting anybody in. I said, nigga. That's 45:51 that shit. So now I'm standing here. That's why you gotta be careful where you got to ego. And now I'm just standing here looking stupid. Me, Parks, 45:59 fucking, Rem, Jaday. But then the door slide open enough, you do the real nigga. You know 46:07 somebody over there. Of course. Remember that from back in the day? They let us on in there 46:15 and we went to a table of 6 but just 4 of us. It's tricky. And blue note, Jill Scott, you know this whole place 46:24 is about to be jam packed. Yeah. So they kept trying to send just 2 random strangers to our table. And 46:32 we kept lying to them saying, we have 2 people coming. That happened at least 5 times we was lying 46:40 to them. Like it was hot, they was trying to get these seats out. And boy we look up And who do I see? My co-worker and 46:48 his lovely wife And they come in and I put my arm in here Right. It's slow motion. I mean Joe be real nice. He 46:56 walked all the way over to the table. Oh, no, no, no No, this is what I just seen you didn't go go go go go put my hand on say mark And 47:05 mark just sits down with his wife at the table some other new table That the table for 2 hostess brought him to 4. It was a table for 2 47:14 He over there with angela ye shout to angela ye shout to angela So then he went up to go to coat check to hang the coats up, and that's when I beeline. 47:23 That's when I made my move. I sprinted toward him, grabbed his shoulder. Hey man. Got a 47:31 seat for you. Got your seats right here. We back here man if you are. Who had the better table? Well he was right 47:39 in front of the stage. I was in front of the stage. He was right in front of the stage. Yeah he booked the shit weeks ago. No I didn't. He made a phone call. I made a phone call. I 47:47 just made a phone call. Yeah, go for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk your shit, talk your shit. She had announced it to 2 days before. So it wasn't like, we all got the hookup. I swear, I don't know 47:55 if any fans were in that, but I felt like everybody in there had the hookup. At 08:00, at that 10th, I looked at the pictures from 08:00, It was like everybody was in there but fans. I mean, we're all fans, but 48:04 I mean, I felt bad for people who were trying to get the tickets. But no, we was there. And then we had just sat down and Angela had just said to me, Oh, Mark, what's up? 48:12 It's so good to see you. Nice to meet your wife. They both went to the same high school. She was like, nice to meet you. I'm so glad y'all were sitting here. We were scared they were gonna put anybody 48:20 at this table and it would have been a disaster for us. Thank you for being here. And then you moved. Then I get up and go on the toast. And that's when I felt 48:28 Joe tap me on the shoulder like, we back there. Yep. Sorry. I had a choice to make. Mm-hmm. And 48:37 he came and joined us, man. Thank God. Gang gang. Thank God. We had a time. We did. It was awkward as fuck, though. Because so what I 48:45 understand. What I understand. I told you niggas, all right, y'all back there? Catch up with you after the show? The thing is... Well, you belong with the Ye crowd. That's 48:53 true. He's in the full circle. Yeah, you should stay at that table. Our seats were great, too. Yeah, the seats were great. Oh, okay, because you said in the back... I mean, it's the blue note. There's no bad seats in the blue note. We didn't have a bad 49:01 take. Okay, that was fine. It was fine. But you saying if the seats was a little compromised, you would've... Oh no, I'm gonna get my... Yeah, yeah. Cause my 49:09 wife was like, let's go back and say hey to Joe. And then we just stayed back there. But because I came in and they took my phone 49:18 and made us put them in those pouches. Oh yeah, nobody could have their phone in there but me, Parks, Rimm, and Shaday. I'm gonna say somehow, I'm 49:26 saying Shaday texting. Having a blast. Texting away brightness all the way up on the phone. I'm like how the fuck did I get the gen pop treatment? 49:34 And I realized because when my wife came in, she surrendered her phone first, which I would not have done. But she likes to play by the rules. My wife is like a good Samaritan 49:42 shit, so she's playing by the rules, so we came in. So and I couldn't call Joe to even see if y'all were here yet, because I had no phone. So now, so when I went back, I was like, 49:50 what do we do? I don't want to ghost Yee, I love her. I'm just go sit down. I'll explain later. Then I realized I had left the phone pouch at 49:58 the table. I told him We used to know how to bust them motherfuckers. Yeah, we bust them now. We bust them shit, I know how to bust them now. So I had to go back to the 50:06 table and take it and explain that we had left. So I was like, well, you know, Joe had something for us. You know, he had a table back there. I didn't realize this. I just kept saying a lot of words out. I just kept saying a 50:14 lot of words. I felt real bad because it wasn't because I heard was just because you know my people so I gotta say man Jill Scott's background singers and band 50:23 in general's fire you had a band The entire performance was great. I went in expecting 50:31 to see a great band at the Blue Note. Right. Sometimes a background singer I'm not sure about. Oh, true, true. Those 3 background singers, 3 50:39 guys. They killed it here. 3 guys, but had the range of. Everything. Yes. Whatever the girls should be singing, 50:48 they absolutely killed. They ain't done telling me 1 of them dudes is kind of popping, like TikTok popping, like Instagram thing. You had 50:56 a tall 1, I want to say his name is Glen. The tall 1 who was doing soprano and alto. That whole crew, That 51:04 was a great performance, great night. Shout out to Jill Scott. We had an amazing interview here. Mad Meows, come on, give a couple of meows. She 51:12 did a tiny desk too, if y'all wanna see it out there. It's the same band, you'll get a little bit of the vibe. It's different in person, but the 51:20 tiny desk is amazing as well. Yeah. And that show me I liked the album before, but that show maybe loved that. Maybe appreciate some of the songs differently. Yeah, I said that we were driving. 51:28 It was me, Monty and Rem driving to the new edition show. And I was like, this is gonna be really way better live. Yeah. And it came to be true. Yeah, it came out 51:36 like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pressure Live. Yes, that was the 1. Pressure Live is like a moment versus, and I mean, I guess it's a moment on the album too, but live? 51:45 No, live, that's different. It's different, yeah, it's different. Very different, Very different outcome. So congratulations, Jill. Thank you for stopping by. Thank you. Thank you. 51:53 Thank you for coming and discussing conflict resolution with us. That was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And for bringing the best out of ish, man. 52:01 I ain't seen you like that before, man. I ain't talking about your talent as a podcaster, I'm talking about like, yeah. That meow was crazy. You 52:09 was meowing? He beowed you. Oh, this nigga meow. The whole time. He said I was hot. Not a boy 52:17 cat. No. Off second hand. This shit was falsetto. Oh, second hand. Contact hot. Contact. Oh shit. This 52:26 nigga, you hear him over there? This guy's a fool, bitch. Yo, Why you can't just say when you was in the bag? What do you mean? I 52:35 was in my bag with Jill? Double entendre. You was in your bag and hers. It's nothing wrong with saying yo, 52:43 I met somebody and they was fly and I was in the bag. They, I was just doing my job, bro. That's 52:52 all I was doing, you know what I mean? And I'm grateful for that, my brother. You do a phenomenal job. We're not worried, what do you guys want to say? We cannot be out 53:00 here. We are we are about it Wow Well, 53:15 let's talk about all star weekend, Let's do it. All right, let's talk about all-star weekend at first I was gonna come in here and kill it But I'm with you I got done But 53:24 that the the actual all-star game was good was very good until the last till the last game No last last game was blah. They 53:32 were trying. Yeah. Yeah The last game was the old heads third straight. Ran out of gas. It's over. It's 53:40 over. We older, we chilling. You got these young boys going back and forth. But walk me through your thoughts on Friday and Saturday. Did you did you watch any of it? I tried to but I didn't realize 53:49 it started at fucking 3PM. It was so early. Yeah, I missed it. So I got the dunk contest but I was in the winter Olympics. The entire weekend was early. 53:57 Okay, which is why all star game was finished by 08:00 Friday and Saturday. Both were still pretty early Friday. 54:07 I'm lit nigga Kick rocks. I'm not beat. Sorry. I've seen MTV Rockin Jock. I've seen Kevin Hart win MVP 54:15 before. I don't need to see Timothee Chalamet shoot threes. And he wasn't there, but whatever that celeb game is on Friday, Shams, I don't 54:23 need to see Shams. I didn't even know what happened. Yeah Shams was playing, yeah no I was lit. We was lit on Friday so Friday I have no idea what they were 54:31 doing. Saturday, I tuned in early enough to see the Knicks win whatever challenge that was we won. You 54:40 didn't know what the challenge was? I don't know what the challenge was. It's not the skills challenge. Yeah, they said they took the rising skills challenge. Yeah, that's out of here ever since Wim 54:48 Benyana and Chris Paul cheated. Oh, they found their little, yeah, yeah. And that wasn't cheating, but I mean, I get it. I get it, I get it. They found a loophole. So I saw the Knicks 54:56 win. I saw Damien Lilloo win a 3 point contest. That 3 point contest was Absolutely great. Was it? Yes, because in round 1, 55:04 well, the dynamics, right? You got Khan Canupel, who is the best. No, he's the best rookie 55:12 shooter that the league has ever seen. OK. Like, that's the pace he's on. Got it. OK. Before All-Star Break, he's made, I want to say, off the top of my head, 55:21 149, 147 threes nobody's ever done that before okay So round and it's him and his Devon Booker and his Damien Lillard and it's the OGs 55:29 You know, you don't want to let this rookie kid come in and round 1, he was looking like Larry Bird with the warmups on. Like he made, I think he had 55:37 29 or 31 round 1. Shit. Yeah, it was looking like that. So he advanced, 55:45 Dame advanced, Devin Booker advanced, and then it was round 2, and then he cooled off. The rookie cooled off, and he got like a 55:53 17 or something, and that's when Dame took over and put 29 on the board. Easy, he was hitting the logo shots, 56:02 he was hitting, he went crazy. And then Devin Booker went crazier. He went crazier than Dame Lillard, and 56:10 had him beat dead to right He gets to the last rack. He only needs to make 2 and he's to win Nope made 1 damn 56:19 really That was the only rack that that happened like that. I'm gonna go back and watch that. Shut the damn. So now Devin Booker is looking like, dog and 56:27 Dame is like, ah. So congratulations, Dame and Lillard, 3 time 3 point champion. They 56:35 tuned right to a Steph Curry interview talking about next year because Steph Curry wants to defend. He also wants to get 3. 56:43 I think he has 2. So he said he wants to get Devin Booker, Clay, Dame. He didn't name the young boy. That's 56:52 just me noticing. I'm not saying he was doing something, but he did not name the young boy, but the young boy you know will be there. So the 3 point 57:01 contest was great. Well, and if I'm, Steph, I'm not, these, we OGs, like, yeah, I don't, yeah, he'll be there. I don't gotta name him. Yeah, 57:09 put whoever else in there. Yeah, put whoever. Yeah, yeah. But us 4, and then whoever y'all wanna, because whoever else y'all wanna be. You're right, you're right, but stop it. You're right, but stop. 57:17 Rookie gotta wait. Yeah, you gotta earn your name to be mentioned when I start calling out. I agree with all of that. But Steph 57:25 Curry knows that that boy is gonna play. That's fine. It's on your mind. He also knows he's Steph Curry. Right. Who playing? Joe. I 57:34 know who's, Wardell. Okay. I'm not playing with Wardell. I wouldn't give a fuck who you boy playing with. That's what I'm saying. And I agree with y'all. 57:42 Oh, okay. Y'all don't have to convince me. It's Wardell. So I'ma just pay. He don't have to say Khan fucking Canoople. I'm gonna pay respect to my brothers that have been 57:50 in the struggle. But if you're gonna say Clay right now, shout out to Clay. He follows me. Clay won. Shout out to Clay. Clay won before. He mentioned that people 57:58 were wondering. And he's a shooter. We talk about shooters. Yeah, we talk about shooters. And winners, champions. They all won the 3 point contest before. Can't do that. The 58:06 dunk contest, we'd be better off putting the trash can and at the middle of the at the middle of the court and just Duncan 58:14 like paper balls balls of paper that we've punched us They might as well go ahead and get rid of that shit at this point. They could have put us on an 8 and a half foot room. It had us just 58:22 go out, 5 foot room, fucked up Achilles and all with a trampoline. Nick and Jackson Hayes did a regular dump. I say yo what? That shit was trash. 58:31 No Jackson Hayes did a few regular dunks. This is where I was going to come in and trash the whole weekend. Jackson Hayes, he, I tweeted, he 58:39 could have stayed in his hotel. Then he was like, Joe, he lives around the corner. I said, even worse, he could have stayed in the comfort of his home and not participated at 58:47 all in this. Damn, in full circle, right back to you guys is you're scared to 58:56 see your seed be a failure, kind of, Because there's nothing that's a failure about Jason Richardson's son, 59:05 who's on the magic, whose name is Richardson. We love that. Black basketball dads nepotism, not 59:13 nepotism, but yeah, nurturing you, get them to the league. We love that. We absolutely love that. It only becomes a problem when 59:22 the first dunk you do is to honor your dad and then they put your dad's version of the dunk on the big 59:30 screen. So Jason Richardson's dunk was like a 30, like out of 10. Like 59:39 it was some 360 reverse. I remember the 1 with 1. And then the 1 his son did was like the today version 59:48 of that. Like the, you know how they had frosted flakes and they had flakes with sugar. It was like, 59:58 but you know the kid could get up because they said he's 6'1". I'm like, all right, so you know he could get up because he got his dad hopped. But 6'1", just 1:00:07 do your own dunk, big dog. Homeboy from the Spurs, he gets up. So I can't say nothing about him. I don't know, I don't know his name, Kavon. I don't know, I'm not sure his name, but 1:00:16 he gets up and homeboy that was on Miami that came out, his energy was just great to see. He danced the entire time, he's from the Bay, he's 1:00:24 a young guy, he's in good shape. Let's do that, go with E-40, right? Yeah, yeah, he came out with E-40, so cool, bring some swag back, Bring some swag back. And it 1:00:32 was this portion of All-Star Weekend where I said, All-Star Weekend has to find a way to embrace the drug 1:00:40 dealing community. Yes, That's the problem. That's the problem. It's all too corporate for 1:00:48 sure. It's way too corporate. I'm telling you something. I'm telling you something. As somebody that has been to many an 1:00:56 All-Star weekend all over this country, There was a presence that was not like a bad presence. There 1:01:05 was a good presence of sport fans. It's like a fight in Vegas. Sport fans and women that love this shit and the people 1:01:13 that have this type of money. It was an event for a weekend. Looking at All-Star Weekend, you could tell that that just is not present anymore. Like I was 1:01:21 so happy to see E40. It reminded me that, where are all you niggas? Where are the people that are not streamers, 1:01:30 content creator? I'm happy to see them too, but we do need drug dealers and all that drug dealers attract. 1:01:38 We would have, drug dealers was the streamers. They were the ones that was gonna get your shit lit, weren't was gonna travel, this was a, 1:01:47 we need, they need to find a way. I know it sounds nice. And also just people in general, cause them stands were empty as fuck. It's just an urban dynamic that 1:01:56 we bought to the all-star game now they be selling all them corporate tickets shit is 5000 a pop I just googled the average ticket is 4700 1:02:04 dollars So the only people that could really afford it was the drug dealers. You know what I mean? Like niggas could spend, niggas 1:02:13 was spending whatever. Niggas, we was buying aftermarket tickets at whatever price. Then they have to start to give the free tickets out because the 1:02:22 arena shouldn't look this empty. True. For they had, they tried to trick people with the lights and the seats. But we can tell that these seats are empty. 1:02:30 It was empty. And that's for All-Star. That's for... I didn't see that shit packed out at all. Not once. It wasn't even a hype around All-Star weekend. 1:02:39 I didn't even know what was happening. It's starting to look like the Pro Bowl. Word. Well you know how just nobody gives a fuck about the Pro Bowl. It's getting there. This is the 1:02:47 most lackluster. Yeah But every year it's a decline until Sunday I will say that in all of the all-star games and in the sports that was 1 of 1:02:55 the more competitive games I've seen in a long time and I think they everybody everybody Yeah, what's the guys to get that that that? Feeling 1:03:04 back. Yeah, because for the last 5678 years He's nobody gave a fuck about winning the All-Star game. Everybody was a bullshit game, 1:03:12 and in the last 3 minutes, people played defense. And the only nigga really cared about winning was Kobe. You know what I'm saying? So everybody else used to just look at the shit like it was a meet 1:03:20 and greet. Yeah, like, yo, I'm hanging out with my niggas that I knew since AAU. We laughing, we joking. A bunch of alley-oop's in half court threes. That shit was hard to watch. So this 1:03:28 game was definitely good. And then for, unfortunately, for the dunk contest and the 3 point contest, the superstar 1:03:37 presence in a dunk contest used to be a thing. Yeah, it's needed, yeah. Like if you had Ja Morant in a dunk contest, motherfuckers would be like, oh shit. You had some of the other high 1:03:45 flyers in the dunk contest, niggas would be like, oh shit. Ant Man, Ja, niggas like that. Well the other 4, the league moved on from dunks But 1:03:54 y'all could have got Mac McClung again Yeah I'll take that It was weird cause I saw Mac doing videos about stuff he would have done Nobody paying to go see Mac 1:04:03 Nobody was paying to go see anybody. No, I'm just saying, I think it would have been the same even with him. I'm talking about you need star power. Those dunks that he was showing. No, 1:04:11 he's a monster. Those dunks he was showing, but I'd never seen at least 2 of them. That boy's a monster. He's a monster. Just for entertainment's sake, go get Mac McClung. Something, Mark is right. Something happened 1:04:19 there to where he couldn't perform or I don't know if he got cut a week before or something weird happened. But 1:04:27 before the All-Star game happened, I had seen enough footage and enough video to 1:04:35 conclude that Victor Wimbenyana hates the Joker. So that was my sub story line that I 1:04:43 was watching. This is coming off of Kevin Durant doing that interview saying, where they asked him, y'all gonna take it serious? And he highlighted the same 2 niggas that 1:04:51 we all know, Luca and the Joker, these 2 dudes that make it very unserious. I seen a bunch of women, y'all, in the videos where he 1:05:00 said, I'm not playing with none of them. I'm not here for games, jokes. Y'all know in the summer he went to do the fucking Coon Ta Kente shit. He went to go do the shit 1:05:08 over there with the monks. I'm serious. He said Coon Ta Kente. Coon Ta Kente shit. I was fucked up like what the fuck is he talking about? Hey yo bruh, stop playing. I'm not playing. Nigga 1:05:16 you don't say Coon Ta Kente motherfucker. He went to do that too. I'm saying he takes this shit very serious. He's not playing. What I saw 1:05:24 in him, I didn't think, and I've had this argument. He really didn't have. You got all the arguments. No, He didn't really have much dog in him. I saw something different 1:05:32 over all-star weekend He set out to win the fucking MVP be like he wasn't playing with Kawhi none of niggas him and Kawhi start going at it In that game 1:05:40 who? Wimpy yeah, yeah I know he had no open his matchup like when him and drake I was going at it Yeah, people were trying because 1:05:49 they be trying to jump in now here Everybody better be happy that he's on a minutes restriction. He's doing what he's doing and they only letting 1:05:57 him play 23 minutes a night. He killin. So in the group picture now you got Joker, you know Joker standing next to Wimby, 1:06:05 Joker slapping Luka Dantzik in the head, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. So Wim Bynanna is like, get 1:06:13 me away from these motherfuckers, yeah, these white boys, yo. He's white, rich, they ain't go fuck. So to see his attitude during 1:06:21 the game and to hear Anthony Edwards say that Wim Benyana's attitude rubbed off on him and made him kind of play for real and take him serious. I think how they split the teams 1:06:30 up just kind of inspired everybody. But Wim Benyana looked different. Kawhi too. Kawhi was hooping. Kawhi was hooping. In that second game? Yeah. Nah, he balled out for a 1:06:38 n***a that wasn't supposed to be there. Him and Wimby. Again, that game was him and Wimby. I think from the tip off, the first possession, somebody 1:06:46 did something. Wimby got an offensive. Some s*** happened. You broke it down that first position. I see why you a coach. You're an ass. But 1:06:54 no something. That was a good ass game. You killed that. That first position. That first position. God, it's nuts, my nigga. No, what 1:07:02 happened? Did he say that? I will always love him. Like, when he used it, I swear to God. Oh. 1:07:11 What was your, like, Brandy's Star-Spangled Banner? Oh, that was different. Yeah, it was different. Yeah, it was like a doo-wop-y kind of... Yeah. That was fun. I just love her voice so much. Yeah, she can sing anything to me. It wasn't 1:07:19 my favorite rendition. Yeah, I was fighting with myself I love Brandy and I love anything that Brandy does and 1:07:28 I don't know if I'd need to rap for the Star-Spangled Banner Yeah, But some songs maybe you just wanna hear the regular 1:07:36 racist way. It's like some racism, I don't think, was intended to be altered. 1:07:45 You can love her and not like that. I liked it. I saw a lot of people hate on it So I watched it. I didn't love I like I hate it, but I heard I love it. 1:07:53 I like it. Well, we know We know you know, you didn't like it. There's at least 3 reasons leave our flag alone You 1:08:08 know, I didn't move to Pennsylvania and we really can't vouch for what he was doing out there. I'm telling you he went out there and was on 1:08:16 some Hillbilly America pickup truck type shit. Oh shit. They moved back to the hood, that's my man. I've always loved you 1:08:24 too, Fre. It's hood out there too, nigga. Huh? It's hood out there. Not where you was at. Where was you at? Not where you was at. I was out, I was out there. You was out there? 1:08:32 I was out there. I was out there. I was out there. I was out there. I was out there. Meta Knighthood. You a Mormon, right? Nigga, what? 1:08:42 I'm asking the question. You got Jesus jimmy's. I'm just asking the question. No, I ain't no fucking Mormon. What 1:08:51 the fuck? My bad. That's my bad. Yeah, that's your bad, man This thing is a fool. No, I don't 1:09:00 Ain't no Mormon, it's Amish people out there. The Mennonites. Ice is something. He's got a horse. 1:09:09 He Amish and Muslim. Like I'm 5% Muslim, I'm Amish. It might be a 5% Amish that we don't know about. I'm not. 1:09:19 Y'all are crazy. Oh man. I'ma figure it out by the end of this part That I'm something outside of your CDL. 1:09:28 I know that those are fat brothers Anyway Crap brothers. That's his gang. That's his set. Anyway man, congratulations to Adam Silver and the NBA. Looks like y'all did 1:09:38 get the All-Star game right. Aside from the scheduling, it was pretty entertaining. Yeah, yeah. No, it was. That afternoon shit, ain't it? You either got to go 1:09:48 like 1 PM And 1:09:57 have it like on football time or 8 p.m Oh, so we can watch it be a p.m. It was all star Saturday night. Yeah was the thing 1:10:05 Yeah, always evening night. I agree. Hey, I don't want you're gonna do afternoon do it early early so that you wake up and put on the game. I 1:10:13 see what you're saying. I didn't know that shit was playing out early. I was like, what the fuck? Same. I got there late. I think I saw you tweet it. And that's when I was like, oh shit, it's on. I didn't even realize it. 1:10:21 And it was over. As soon as I turned that motherfucker on, I was like, all right. Well, listen, now it's time for 1 of my favorite parts of this show, I tell 1:10:29 ya. Prize picks! 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So I'm trying to find something to watch that's not gonna interrupt our binge watching of the shows we're 1:12:29 watching. Sure, that be annoying, bro. That be a thing. That be a thing. Yeah. You trying to find something? Yeah, I'm just watching bullshit fucking 1:12:38 Legacy of Monarchs of whatever. Oh no, that's fire though. Is it? Yes, Apple shit. Is that good? Yes, 1:12:46 season 2 can bring it to come out. Yeah, it didn't sound good. No, that's good. There's a big monster coming, so we need to help out the other big monsters. Where's King Kong and Godzilla? Nah, it's different. 1:12:54 Monarch Legacy of Monsters is called. All right, so I'll check it out. Yeah, check that out. I don't care to hear your description. All right. I said I'll check it out. All right. But anyway, 1:13:02 so I end up, cause he about to like really tell me, I don't care. So I end up just clicking on the 3 1:13:10 episode order of America's Next Top Model Doc. Wait, you watched this without Shada? I watched 1:13:19 episode 1 without Shada. That sounds like an ass whooping. Yeah, that's cause well she was sleep. I mean, I didn't want to interrupt her and I really didn't think that this was about to 1:13:27 be a thing. Oh, it's a thing. Boy was I mistaken. By the time I got to the end of episode 1. I said, okay, I can't watch anymore. It is. 1:13:35 Yeah, she's going to want to watch this. He runs a tick tock early, like shot is tick tock early. So she's been telling me about the tick tockers reporting back on 2025 1:13:44 26 years eyes on America's next top model. So she's been forecasting this. Let me tell you guys out there. 1:13:53 There's so many people that I just didn't know needed to be put underneath the jail like fucking Chevy Jays. I had no idea. Tyra 1:14:01 Banks needs her own independent cell underground, like the jail from Paradise. On the black sites. In the new, yeah, yeah. 1:14:10 Tyra Banks, Tyra fucking Banks. That show was a mess, holy shit. What a great mess, 1:14:18 What a great show. If you haven't seen the America's Next Top Model shit on Netflix, this is not an ad. I promise you, you are in for some good viewing. 1:14:27 I don't know if it's meant to be a comedy. I was cracking up the whole time. I laugh, but like kind of out of discuss. Let me be clear. Dark sense of humor. 1:14:35 Like it's not funny. Yeah. What they were doing to these contestants was not funny at all. What's so bad that they were doing? Well, in 1:14:43 season 1, where would you like to begin? And when was season 1? What year do you know? 2002, somewhere back then. Somewhere back 1:14:51 then. Season 1, 1 of the contestants who was like a stalker at Walgreens in the middle of the country somewhere 1:15:01 gets on the show and they go to Milan, Italy, and they got some dudes driving around on the Vespas on some Italy 1:15:09 tourist shit. They invite the guys back after the shoot and they get drunk in the hot tub and black out. She 1:15:17 ends up being as aid essentially. She was black out drunk right right by 1 of the people and they filmed everything 1:15:25 and then she had a boyfriend. So they filmed her calling her boyfriend to tell him that she cheated on him, but it wasn't. 1:15:33 I don't think that's really cheating also because she was black out drunk right. She was yeah. I got you wow and they film that 1:15:41 shit and this is episode 1 of the doc, Which I have an issue with by the way because the infractions got 1:15:49 very very less like it started with that and then it was like Inappropriate 1:16:00 models dancing scenes a little handsy which is terrible in itself don't get me twisted, but this woman was assaulted on fucking camera. 1:16:09 Yikes. Liz, Parks is even speeding some for me. Yeah, Okay, slow down. Step 1, 1:16:17 act cycle 1, is regular model, you're thin, you're 1:16:25 not thin, you're fat, you're not fat, but there was this black girl that they was just treating away. Oh my god that's horrible. And at the 1:16:34 first, this is the first cycle, the first scene. So this could be taken either way. This could be taken like hey this is regular model shit 1:16:42 that they're doing or it can be taken like they are pinpointing and highlighting this black girl and speaking to her a certain way and what that was 1:16:50 is they were calling her days were saying that she appeared ashy yeah they were calling her ashy bad skin she 1:16:59 had amazing skin by the way yeah so it started with just these black racist buzzwords to this 1 black 1:17:07 woman Tyra Banks Oh Really It's Tyra fucking 1:17:15 bitch Absolute monster She is a monster. She's horrible. Wow. If I'm going by this 1:17:24 and I am same and I am so at first you're like, okay, that's bad, But it just 1:17:32 to me it kept getting worse and worse. I think the SA rape portion was probably the worst thing that they showed. And 1:17:40 that was horrible. The boyfriend saw a commercial 1 day for America's top model, next top model, encouraged his girlfriend to go on the show 1:17:49 Like Park said she's in the house. They invite guys over. She says I'm a bad a bad drunk I don't really drink a light. I'm a light drinker. They put alcohol 1:17:57 in there. They're not feeding them Yeah, they're not they're not feeding them. You can't eat so, you know the liquor sitting so yeah her and 1 of the guys 1:18:05 end up having sex they had a rule in the house they said you can if you're in the bathroom by yourself then no filming can be done but other 1:18:14 than that this is done like the real world documentary style But because she went in the bathroom with a guy, 1:18:23 they went in the bathroom and filmed whatever was happening, which was an essay in the shower. It's never acknowledged 1:18:32 that this woman is being sexually assaulted on our property under our supervision, under our watch. 1:18:41 So then they shaped the narrative to say that she's cheating. They sent Tyra into the little private campfire moment to just talk about 1:18:49 how she identified because she had been cheated on before. Hey, I've cheated before and have been cheated on before. It's tough 1:18:57 as a model and you gotta have the discipline. This is the conversation she's having at the campfire. So the girl is like, wait, what? Then they force her 1:19:05 to call the boyfriend, like Park said, on air to say, I cheated on you. And this whole shit is, it's 1:19:14 as horrible as it sounds. Back to the poor black girl that they Called Ashley they give her like some special lotion and shit Then the other people are like complaining 1:19:22 about her leaving lotion on the door handles and she is horrible Oh, they cut her hair wrong with the wrong clippers and shit 1:19:31 Let me But then they highlighted how highly successful this show became after the first season. And then they started to do Africa's 1:19:40 Next Top Model, London's Next Top Model. So they're exploiting these people who believe 1:19:48 that they're coming to get some type of modeling gig and modeling help but this is really all for shits and giggles and for television purposes and we're conducting 1:19:56 this like a television show. The grievances got so bad I had to start writing them down because I would forget. Then you got the dentist episode. Oh my God. Wait, let me just 1:20:05 ask. Did Tyra herself appear in this and say, yes, this is her show. She's an EP. Tyra is on this show in a 1:20:13 beautiful note on the dock. She's in a beautiful jacket, leather jacket, makeup done, hair 1:20:21 to it, and she's explaining her thought process, but she's not apologizing. She has not apologized for any of the behavior. 1:20:30 In fact, after the essay speech, essay part was done, it was her and the producer dude, I wanna say his name is Ken, saying, yeah, 1:20:38 this was filmed documentary style and we were sure to get, the cameras never stop rolling. That was the attitude about it. Yeah, never that this 1:20:46 is wrong. Never an apology. So we fast forward later on, there's another girl, there's 2 girls, I don't know what cycle we are now. There's 2 girls 1 black 1 white 1:20:54 both the black girl has a gap in her mouth. Okay, the white girl her teeth is fucked up. So 1 of the challenges and every season 1:21:03 the challenges got exponentially more difficult and just weird. Yeah, it starts with a makeover, which is hair, makeup, regular 1:21:11 shit, get some extensions maybe, change your dress, the way you dress, find an identity shit like that, but then but now she's saying 1:21:20 we're going to go to the dentist and she picks these 2 girls with the fuck that grill takes into the dentist. She tells the black girl we have to get rid of this gap. If 1:21:28 you want to work and be a model and be on the cover of magazines, you can't have no gap. She don't want to get rid of the gap. So the girl says multiple 1:21:36 times. I like my gap. I love my gap. I don't want to get rid of my gap. So the entire blast her in front 1:21:45 of the whatever the end scene of America's Next Top Model is when you're in front of everybody. I blast her, yells at her, screams at her 1:21:53 and basically says, if I keep you on this show, I'll remove you but I'll keep you if you promise to get your gap shortened. So the girl does 1:22:01 get the gap shortened. Reluctantly of course. And they show the white girl, she get her old jibs redone and she's excited, because for her it feels like hitting the lottery because she could never afford to get the dentists 1:22:09 work done but the black girl is really angry about it she got her gap closed she's here live talking about it with her gap closed and then they fast forward 1:22:17 to a later cycle where Tyra is picking a contestant to basically go get a gap inserted. Yeah get it widened. 1:22:25 Right. Huh? That's what I was thinking. I was like, yeah, There are a lot of people who want that, especially now. Now it's different than back 1:22:34 then though, yeah. And mind you, they're not doing proper orthodontist work. They're just ripping 1:22:42 some teeth out and putting some new shit in. It's not, in my experience, as someone who went through orthodontics, Invisalign shit, 1:22:50 you don't just go in there and pull some shit out and call it a day. Like it's a long process. Dog, they wouldn't let her call her 1:22:59 parents or her attorney before the procedure. They made her sign paperwork and wouldn't let her speak to her parents or attorney. Oh yeah. 1:23:07 So that just lets you know that not only are they on bullshit, but they're well aware of the bullshit that they're on. It's cool. Fast 1:23:15 forward to hold up. That was after my dentist was after dentist race swapping. Oh my God, they race swapped 1:23:23 twice. Yes. Black face, white face, native american face. Yeah, 1:23:32 with and and for them how they explained it was this is us showing appreciation to all of the different cultures that make the modeling business 1:23:41 go around. And they brought babies for them to hold of the race that they're transformed into. Oh, this 1:23:49 dog. But at this point, I'm bawling hysterical in my bed. I can't even believe that they're putting this shit on TV. But it's not 1:23:57 funny. It's not. They got this white girl painted with all blackface. And then they said, bring the kids. Bring the kids. So they bring a little black 1:24:05 boy out there. And then at the end of that clip, you hear Tyra saying, think of the, think of the Egyptians, think of what the Egyptians went 1:24:13 through. Yes. You said to everyone around it. Yes, you did. You think of the Egyptians and everything they went through. 1:24:22 Tyra is a nut, a monster and then they did that twice. I was going to say they set it up. Oh my God, that yeah, which we probably shouldn't 1:24:30 have did that. They're like 2 seasons later, They did the same shit again. Let's run it back. Another particularly 1:24:39 egregious 1 to me is they did like for some reason dead models scene. They did that twice to 1:24:47 they did that twice to death photo shoot. Yeah, but 1 girl in particular, her mom was shot in the head. Oh yeah. Oh my God. 1:24:55 Yes, and in her pose she was shot in the fucking head. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah, this shit is twisted. They getting off 1:25:03 some sick shit on people. They get their shit off. That's what it sounds like. Yeah. And it's 3 behind it behind 3 episodes, 3 episodes. Yeah, 3 episodes about 1:25:12 an hour each. I definitely watching it. It's totally worth it. This is totally your bag. I'm into this. Tyra Banks. Monster. Dog. 1:25:20 And then at the end of all of this, and it's much worse than we're describing. At the end of all of this, Tyra got the nerve to start plugging some 1:25:28 cycle 25, which is the show coming back now. That told me that she was a little off in the head. Yeah. Yeah. If I could 1:25:36 go up here, describe all this foul shit, all this smut that's now on the name, and now I'm gonna come and bring it back again. But she didn't apologize for anything. Actually, she 1:25:44 doubled down in most of it outside of maybe 1 of the race swaps. And they had her, they showed clips of her going on all 1:25:52 of these talk shows, giving you the performative, worked on, practiced spiel 1:26:01 of, oh, and these models and we want to help them and yeah, we just want to do that. But the model, 1 of them is cursing out now. The black girl was a few leggers. 1 of them is cursing 1:26:09 out. Let me find it. Well, because they they are promised essentially a career in modeling. You get a, I think a Willamina or 1 of the big agencies 1:26:17 to represent you but the agencies don't look at you seriously because you were on Some TV reality to show shit. So like I'm from over here. Yeah, we're not really taking 1:26:25 you seriously. Yeah, you're signing here Yeah, just that's what I Google to see how many people have made it. I 1:26:33 mean, Winnie Harlow, that we would know, and Eva, but it's a whole bunch of girls 1:26:41 that made it. A bunch of girls made it that I can't really pronounce all of their names, but it's been some some prodigy. It's been so hey 1:26:50 yo, you hate. It's all right bro. I hope you my problem with the doc is that they started off with essay of this girl and 1:26:59 at the end, like you said, they're like plugging a new show. So like the infractions got gentler and gentler and gentler and It ends up kind of it 1:27:07 seems like they tried to make it like In ad kind of thing. I don't know a rollout Maybe yeah, maybe I 1:27:15 didn't I didn't love the way that they kind of brushed over some very serious infractions in my opinion and Made a bigger deal out of we didn't 1:27:23 really get these girls modeling careers, which is bad, but it's a TV show like Some of those expectations should be tempered in my opinion as opposed to filming 1:27:32 someone getting fucking essay'd dog 1 of the stories that Parks mentions when they're on the photo shoot and they toss in these these extras 1:27:40 these guys so the girl is saying listen 1 of the guys that they have thrown in is being 1:27:48 extremely flirtatious with me. He's making me uncomfortable. And then they show a clip of him like harassing on some, Hey, where you going after this or just 1:27:56 whatever he was saying. So then they showed a shoot and it's supposed to be her in the middle dancing and these guys dancing 1:28:05 around her. But the homeboy that was trying to kick it to her is touching her the whole time. Like, you know, just touching her body, just mad, excited. 1:28:14 So she stops it. She stops the whole shoot and says, and you're happy, you're rooting for it. She says, yo, I'm uncomfortable. This man has been 1:28:22 on me the whole time and he's been trying to kick it. I don't know if this is how it normally goes, but I'm not really comfortable with this. And she said she was met with just disappointment, 1:28:31 almost like they were shocked that we were stopping production that to speak about this and then she just 1:28:39 highlighted the nerve and audacity that it took for they talked about the final picture that they took from that shoot which was him the same guy 1:28:47 yeah groping grabbing her ass during the day this show would just it's too much happened for me to explain it to you I'm definitely gonna watch 1:28:55 it again no I'm watching but it's totally changed my perception of Tyra Banks like she sounded full of shit yeah it's not just the 1:29:04 actions it's when they pant to her she sounded like somebody that was just full of shit, which 1:29:13 is crazy. Whatever I gotta do for me and fuck anybody else essentially. Basically. And by the end of it, most of the people that worked with 1:29:21 her. Got fired. Or left because they're conscious, couldn't take it, I can't even work on this anymore. But by the end, a 1:29:29 lot of them didn't speak to her. Yeah. Actually, I think the show ends with the rest of the important people outside of Ken, the producer, 1:29:37 and Tyra, like meeting up, linking, having drinks, hugging each other, like reminiscing, like talking about it. Without her. Yeah. 1:29:46 Duh. Yeah, Tyra Banks, boy. Wow. Horrible. Horrible, horrible. And then there's always been these stories lingering about Tyra and 1:29:54 how she feels about young black women. But it's all like, rumors and hearsays. I don't have any 1:30:02 evidence of that. But watching this, oh shit, and somewhere along the line when the show was having success, they 1:30:10 started talking about the execs that kind of were, that okayed some of these things and the chain of command, the execs, they 1:30:18 kind of, you know, yeah. And they say, 1 of the girls said, yeah, because Dawn Ostroff said 1:30:27 that when such as such as such as, and I'm sitting there and I'm snapping, I'm saying Dawn Ostroff, Dawn Ostroff, Dawn Ostroff. I 1:30:35 know Dawn Ostroff. Dawn Ostroff is the big wig TV exec 1:30:44 that Spotify had come over there in year 2 when I was on the pod saying all that there's racism on 1:30:52 the bridge shit and I don't know her to be racist so I'm not putting that on her what I'm saying is I could tell 1:31:00 in the functioning of things that I was being treated away that didn't have anything to do with metrics, 1:31:09 numbers, or my performance. Like she, when she got on the phone, it was on like she had no idea who I was. 1:31:17 This guy has been number 1 for 2 years. Away from, how's the weather in LA? She said, I was in Astoria underneath the train tracks. She's 1:31:26 like, hey Joe, how's LA, right? You're like, are you giving me 100000000 dollars or not? No, 1:31:35 it gets to the point in the conversation where you know, not to even ask that because you know, you know, looking at you like a timing and I'm watching this shit and I'm like, 1:31:43 oh, these years early, That's just your bag. I knew I recognized the name, but I didn't. She was the chief content officer and advertising 1:31:52 business officer of Spotify. And Don Ostrov has seen tremendous success, which is the part that's scary. Because the 1:32:00 people that are going to act as barricades and barriers to your success and what should or shouldn't be happening for you, feel away because 1:32:08 of you black or you nigger or whatever you are. And we super successful. And we do. Right. So Man, it was a mind fuck all over 1:32:16 the place for me. Shout out to Dawn Ostroff. I'm so glad you're out of my life. I'm so glad that my success does not hinge on what you have for breakfast because 1:32:25 I fell bad for those girls. You was involved? Shit. Oh my lord. That show was a damn mess. Hey, if 1:32:33 you get some time, please give this 1 a spin. You should not be disappointed. You won't be. Not at all, not at all. We 1:32:42 for sure watching that 1. We should, I hate to darken the mood. Do you? No, let's do it. We prep for 1:32:50 you. Yeah. No, it's a tough day for me and for Black America. And me. Yeah. Anybody who loves Black 1:32:58 people. It's guys. It's a tough day. Early 1:33:13 this morning, Reverend Jesse Jackson passed away at the age of 84. It's a tough loss for so many of us. He had been diagnosed with Parkinson's and 1:33:21 he'd been ill for a while so it wasn't a medical surprise but it still was no less devastating for 1:33:29 so many of us. I think it's important for us to really understand who Jesse Jackson was and what he 1:33:37 meant to our community, to our country, to the world. Sometimes as you age and new leaders come 1:33:45 and new people come, it's easy to forget the people whose shoulders we stand on. But Jesse Jackson was 1:33:53 different in every way imaginable. He's a child of the civil rights movement. He was a mentee of Martin Luther King. 1:34:03 He was a civil rights pioneer himself. He's the founder of Operation Push, Operation Breadbasket. He did so many things 1:34:11 for so many people. And I think it's incredibly important that we remember him for who he was. A 1:34:20 lot of times... Martin Luther King is somebody who died and was swept into martyrdom, like Malcolm X and Medgar Evers and all these other people. But 1:34:29 Jesse Jackson had the burden... Jesse Jackson had the burden of living. He had to live and he had to struggle and he 1:34:37 had to get up and he had to fall and he had to do all sorts of things, which is different and harder. And he did it 1:34:45 with style and grace and dignity. And he did it for us. And I think we can't forget that. There is no 1:34:53 civil rights movement without people like Jesse Jackson. He ran for president twice in 1984 and 1988. And I think- 88, that's Dukakis. 1:35:02 That's Dukakis. And he won 13 states, by the way. We like to act like that was a vanity run or a show run. He got more states than Joe Biden. But 1:35:11 that wasn't just a vanity run. He expanded the electorate. He got people registered who weren't voting already. And that didn't just do Jesse 1:35:19 Jackson a service, it did black people a service. He ran in 84 and Dinkins wins in 85. He runs in 88. Douglas Wilder 1:35:27 becomes governor of Virginia in 89. He changed how voting worked, he changed how this country worked, and he forced the Democratic Party, as failed as it is and 1:35:35 continues to be, he forced it to listen to our needs and to respond to black people in a way that people don't understand. Jesse Jackson freed hostages. 1:35:44 He's the 1 who met with Arafat. He's the 1 who freed Hafez al-Assad. He went to Syria, he went to Palestine, he went to these places and brought hostages home. He created jobs, he forced companies in corporate 1:35:52 America to listen to us and to act right by us. He organized boycotts that changed the world. Jesse Jackson, he was different. And He was a cultural 1:36:00 icon. I think that's the part that people forget. 1 of the most important albums, you listen to Aretha Franklin's albums, he's there. You go to 1 of the most important concerts, 1:36:08 Watt Stacks, he's speaking at Watt Stacks. And 1 of the hip hop sandwich you always hear is brothers and sisters, that's Jesse Jackson. Jesse Jackson was at every 1:36:16 cultural event. He was open in space for people all across the board. He was on Sesame Street. He was, I mean, he was everywhere. And again, he 1:36:25 did it for us. He was a global leader. Before we had black presidents, Jesse Jackson was our president. Before we had people who could represent us in corporate 1:36:33 America Jesse Jackson was our representative. Jesse Jackson was so special and he was a mentor and a friend and a hero of mine. He's the 1:36:41 first person to bring me to Africa. He took me around, he mentored me, he was always a friend, He was always just wonderful to me. But beyond that, I 1:36:51 think the thing that I learned most from Jesse Jackson in conclusion is that he never stopped getting up. He grew up in Greenville, 1:36:59 South Carolina, and a child of segregation, and he still found books to read. He was, you know, played football, he wouldn't let him 1:37:07 be quarterback. He still played and fought, you know, and got better. He was somebody who's had to stand on a balcony as Martin 1:37:15 Luther King was assassinated. And instead of folding as he could have, he created organizations and 1:37:23 movements to help poor people. Jesse Jackson was born with a father who lived next door. His 1:37:32 dad, Noah Roberts, had a family next door. He would literally stand in the window and 1:37:40 look at his father with his actual family, because his father was married to somebody else, and look and watch them. And around town, they told 1:37:48 him that because he didn't know who his father was, and because his father didn't claim him, that he was nobody. And he went to children around the 1:37:56 world and said, I am somebody. He was preaching to himself, but he also turned that message and that ministry out to the world and said whether you're poor, whether you're on 1:38:04 welfare, whether you come from this place or that place, you are still somebody. Jesse Jackson is the 1:38:14 epitome of the wounded healer. He was hurt and he was harmed, but he never stopped trying to heal the world and he was not perfect. And there will be people right now, 1:38:22 as is their right, because I do it sometimes, who have criticisms of Jesse Jackson. But again, he had the burden of living. And as he said in 84, we're not perfect servants, 1:38:30 we're public servants, working against the odds. And so as I continue to grow, you know, be patient with me. God's not 1:38:38 finished with me yet. It seems now God is finished with Jesse Jackson on this plane. And so we send 1:38:47 him gratitude. We send him love. I send love to his family for being our steward, for being our leader, for being the person 1:38:56 who helped us when we had no help, who represented us when we had no representation, and who loved us until the day he died. Rest in peace, Rev. Yeah, 1:39:04 yeah, yeah. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, Jesse Jackson. And thank you. Yes, thank you. Seems 1:39:15 like a bad time to say rest in peace Robert Duvall. I figured Ice would get that 1 Yeah, Ice come on Robert Duvall died man, that's our guy. 1:39:23 It's his guy. Yeah, it's his guy Rest in peace Robert Duvall too man. For sure, amazing actor. 1:39:33 Godfather fame. Yes Golden glow, I think he won the Golden Globe 4 times if I'm reading right, but I'm off the dome. 1:39:42 Emmy award winner, Oscar winner, BAFTA winner, Oscar winner. Let me pull it up because he won too much. Here 1:39:51 we go. Academy Award, Bafta Award, 4 Golden Globe Awards, 2 Primetime Emmy Awards, a Satellite Award, and a Screen Actors 1:39:59 -> 100:08.200] Guild Award. At the time of his death He was 1 of the last surviving stars from the golden age of Hollywood Real niggas known from the godfather as