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The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 897 | Company Tardy Policy

Jan 26 · Duration: 3:18:49

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— [100:00.000 --> 100:08.040] That's Amazing. That's an amazing album. That's an amazing album. Amazing. Vibrant. I think I voted for her for best new artist, and I hope she wins that. Her album being so

— [100:08.040 --> 100:16.360] good is fucking up my Grammy predictions. Yo fam, I know niggas from out of state, they did the garden, and niggas was calling me like, yo,

— [100:16.780 --> 100:26.520] could you pull some strings to get tickets? I'm like, that ain't my bag. Like, no. Tell them niggas get money, yo. Stop calling you for everything. I'm

— [100:26.520 --> 100:34.840] not letting you do it today. Come on. It's good. I'm good. Why are you calling me? No, no, no. Why are you broke niggas calling you, man? Like, yo, no.

— [100:35.020 --> 100:43.400] She was selling out everywhere. That Olivia Dean album is incredible. Yes it is. And it answered some of my questions as to why some of my favorite R&B bitches wasn't coming out.

— [100:45.040 --> 100:53.340] Oh yeah, shoot back some people down. Yeah, yeah. No, that answered it. Yeah, that answered it. I'm like, oh, yes, I

— [100:53.340 --> 101:01.540] would do the same. Wait for this little speeding hot piping hot train To slow down, because

— [101:01.540 --> 101:10.400] this girl is young. Yeah. Mm-hmm. When she first came out, this girl is young, new, hot. She's 26. Her first album was 2023.

— [101:10.660 --> 101:18.760] So. Yeah, you got to watch when these young motherfuckers come out and you can tell that they have fresh ideas. I mean, it's not even like. With

— [101:18.760 --> 101:26.960] some backing. It's just, she's really, I don't necessarily look at it as like revolutionary new music. It's just really fucking good. It's refreshing. The songwriting

— [101:26.960 --> 101:35.280] is great. The songwriting is great. The production is great. That little British accent helps a little bit too. It does. Always. Musically. Yeah. Yeah, all the music.

— [101:35.460 --> 101:43.540] She's also a beautiful, beautiful girl. I can't see it. I don't see beauty. Yeah, but she remind me of when 1 of them dropped, 1 of them Norah Jones, fucking

— [101:43.620 --> 101:52.380] Avril, or what's that other little white girl? It's more snowish to me than that. It's more snow-elaguer, but I was never gonna say that. Ooh, I was never gonna say what y'all just said. Why?

— [101:52.380 --> 102:00.580] Why y'all said that? I said it, yeah. That's all I was talking about. No, that's what I was talking about. I salute

— [102:00.720 --> 102:08.780] Snow. I think Snow was doing the right thing. Yep. I love her. Snow's amazing too. She's amazing. The Norah Jones comparison I would make in May earlier was just in terms of I think she's

— [102:08.780 --> 102:16.860] gonna catch, you know how I make Norah Jones' first Grammys? She's bodyed everything, don't know why I won everything. That whole album, which is a damn near perfect album, won everything. I think she's gonna have that kind of

— [102:16.860 --> 102:25.120] success. Is she performing at the Grammys? Yes. Oh, fuck! She's doing the background work too! Look, she's doing the best

— [102:25.120 --> 102:33.540] new artist segment. You know how they do the Medley of All Artists? So it's Addison Rae, Alex Warren, Cat Sy, Leon Thomas, Lola Young, Olivia Dean, Sombra,

— [102:33.900 --> 102:42.200] and the Marias. Yeah, they can fall back. That's my favorite segment out of all the awards shows. The last couple years has been amazing. In recent years. So what's

— [102:42.200 --> 102:50.260] the girl I killed last year or 2 years ago? I need more than that. The new chick. Come on, Chappell. The 1 you kept making jokes about. Oh. The 1 that

— [102:50.260 --> 102:58.300] had the earring in her. You know, it was a white girl that killed. Oh, Billie Eilish? No, no, no. Chappell Rhone.

— [102:58.300 --> 103:06.500] Yes, Chappell Rhone. She going to do that. Chappell Rhone didn't clean up. Yeah, she did. I don't remember cleaning up. Yeah, she cleaned up, it was a couple years ago. Killed. Oh, a couple

— [103:06.500 --> 103:14.740] years ago. And you came in here cracking jokes. You came in here cracking jokes because we didn't know who she was. Oh, a few years ago. So she bodied the speech is where she bodied. And she killed. She bodied the speech. But when she bodied the speech is not when she cleaned up.

— [103:14.740 --> 103:23.120] It was the same year, I think. Oh, okay, I'm mistaken. So I think she won best new artist that year if I recall correctly, okay, that's new artists. Okay, then I'm mistaken Yeah, it's Olivia's year Olivia

— [103:23.160 --> 103:31.600] performing You know last year Leon performing and clips performing means I should leave the Grammys happy and all the people that I think should win

— [103:31.600 --> 103:39.660] will win. Something. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Okay. Oh, and I'm excited to see Trevor Noah. I'm excited to just see

— [103:39.660 --> 103:47.920] artists. And like you just said, they're getting their black viewership back. Like when you start highlighting, the clips are gonna perform with Pharrell when you start

— [103:47.920 --> 103:56.040] highlighting Leon Thomas It's gonna now bring some of the diversity back to to the viewership In my opinion, you

— [103:56.040 --> 104:04.240] know blacks come kind of boycottin them niggas Unless it's us you gotta watch it for work. But a lot of people don't be fucking with the Grammys like that. You

— [104:04.240 --> 104:12.620] know, they've been doing pretty good in recent years. 1 year. They got a lot better. They got a lot better than the other years. Ever since that whole weekend versus the Grammys thing, it seems like they've picked it up. And they fired everybody.

— [104:12.720 --> 104:20.860] Yeah, yeah. When dude is like, yo, we gotta step your game up. That was crazy. And I ain't gonna hold you back to the young niggas.

— [104:20.860 --> 104:29.040] Not fucking no more. What a good time to be single if you're just thinking about it, right? You got football all weekend. Fuck these holes. Next weekend

— [104:29.040 --> 104:37.400] you get to be in the house watching the Grammys. Weekend after that you get whatever you get. All-star weekend. It's also February like outside of Valentine's day.

— [104:37.400 --> 104:45.440] Good time to be by yourself. You and your dick beater. Valentine's Day might not be the worst day to be single. Save a lot of money. Actually, that's a real good

— [104:45.440 --> 104:53.460] time. A real good time to be single. Have y'all started working on your Valentine's Day gifts? Let me tell mine now, if you're listening. Nada, Sporty Thieves. I

— [104:53.460 --> 105:01.620] started working on it. Sporty Thieves. Hey, let me cue it up. That's my shit right there. Just don't believe me. Let me cue it up. Your mouth say 1 thing. We

— [105:01.620 --> 105:09.800] ain't wrong. We ain't wrong. We'll watch her story. Amac say something different. She Instagram, but she gon' post it. We'll see it on her gram, big dawg. Yeah. We

— [105:09.800 --> 105:18.080] hear you. I'm excited to see it. Right, you be talking all heavy and then you look on Monday after. Yeah, I know. That's all. Yeah, you know, every Sporty Thieves song is about the same thing. They

— [105:18.080 --> 105:26.160] got more than 1 song? Wow! I have that 1. Shoot Cinema, I got that 1. Well they have this and they

— [105:26.160 --> 105:34.600] have Nada. Nada! He said 40 Thieves, I'm like 40 Thieves! You ain't getting Nada

— [105:35.940 --> 105:51.320] from us You don't know that song, right? All her mark know is yeah, that's us Triple

— [105:51.320 --> 105:59.840] platinum in the tris they know that was my shit You Jersey niggas was bopping to it too. Yo congratulations, Joel

— [105:59.840 --> 106:08.760] and B is looking amazing. The Sixers look amazing. I know me and you might've had a better to start of the season. I know. I was talking a lot of shit. But

— [106:08.760 --> 106:16.780] you guys, you gotta feel good about where you stand as a basketball team in the city. I also wanted to ask you 2 guys, what

— [106:16.780 --> 106:24.980] do y'all think about the slavery exhibits that are being removed from Philadelphia's Independence National Historic Park? I wanted to ask the 2 Black Panthers on the show. Like what's

— [106:24.980 --> 106:33.160] going on in Philadelphia? Being in Philadelphia don't take no bullshit, we're suing. Like I thought Philly was like a pro-black. Oh we're suing? Yeah. This is Donald

— [106:33.160 --> 106:41.280] Trump shit, this is his direct order. Donald Trump whole thing is like, we're going to erase everything that happened and we're not going to focus on the past, but they came to Philadelphia with

— [106:41.280 --> 106:49.400] that bullshit and we're suing. We're going to sue ICE. Our sheriff stood total to ICE. We suing the government for these statues and

— [106:49.400 --> 106:57.540] these removals. That's what we do. We resist, man. Yeah, we ain't 1 of them. We ain't no nut-ass city. You can't just come to Philly doing what the fuck you want. Yeah, no, you can't do that.

— [106:57.540 --> 107:05.640] All right, and here's our Philly report. Question. That's it? Circling back to this Valentine's thing, because I got tickets to new

— [107:05.640 --> 107:13.680] edition the night before. Isn't that enough? No. New edition boys and men? It might be. Y'all was so gassed about that concert. Park's gotta not be in these talks because

— [107:13.680 --> 107:21.740] he playing from a different game. I'm trying to play Park's game. I think if you combine it with some romantic things, let me let me

— [107:21.740 --> 107:30.000] help you out. Nobody in this room can play that parks at all and I'm not talking about the white game. No at all. The other game is the game. I think

— [107:30.000 --> 107:38.300] I think I just could play again. Neither 1. 0, you don't know. I don't know. I can't play that game. I can't play that game. I think Ice could play that game.

— [107:38.300 --> 107:46.347] Parks' wife pays half the rent. She doesn't pay half the rent. Or she pays rent. She pays half the bills or she contributes money. A

— [107:46.347 --> 107:54.460] significant portion. No, it's his business to tell. I keep it on the low. 3 million tops. His wife, she don't know what he makes.

— [107:55.080 --> 108:03.620] What? He got a really good situation going on over there. Look at him. That's crazy. I

— [108:03.620 --> 108:11.680] think Ish could play the same game as me. I think he does play the same game as me. He can't and doesn't. He can't and he don't. He'll tie your little shoes up. He don't believe in Valentine's Day. Look at the

— [108:11.680 --> 108:19.900] face he's making. He plays even harder ball than I do. Put it on the desk there. On air, Ice and Ish pay for a lot more shit than they bring to the air. Who said that?

— [108:19.900 --> 108:28.280] And the streets be telling me. Who said otherwise? The streets. The streets be telling me. I never said. You could smell it on ice. No. So tell Park since he think he not down. Ish is gassy with it. What?

— [108:28.320 --> 108:36.420] Remember Christmas? I pay my mortgage. But what are you doing for Valentine's Day? Nothing. See? Wait a minute. Whoa,

— [108:36.420 --> 108:44.420] whoa, whoa. I ain't doing nothing either. I don't even. That's a lie. You're a liar. That's a lie. I'm so confused. What's going on? So you're not doing nothing for Valentine's Day because she don't want

— [108:44.420 --> 108:52.460] nothing or that's something y'all grieved? We just don't do it. Y'all don't do pegging holidays. When I first met my girl, I don't do Valentine's Day. I don't do Halloween Christmas Oh Christmas

— [108:53.600 --> 109:01.820] These bills paid not do Christmas You

— [109:01.820 --> 109:18.300] are light or you want gifts? That's not what Asked my girl my

— [109:18.300 --> 109:26.460] girl wanted a Cartier watch So I asked my girl like yo do you want to watch or do you want me to pay off your credit cards? And then she said, credit

— [109:26.460 --> 109:34.620] cards. I would have bought the watch if she said she wanted the watch, I would have bought the watch. But we said both. She wanted both. Yeah, both would have been crazy. It was both. It was both. Both would have been unlimited sucks

— [109:34.620 --> 109:42.760] for the rest of the month. She said she wanted a car. Yeah, you want a car. Hold on. You got to pay for it? Yo, anyway, right? People in relationships don't get their nicks

— [109:42.760 --> 109:50.920] up. Stop. Huh? Not by the person they're in a relationship with, for sure. Shit. Right, so back

— [109:50.920 --> 109:59.520] to what I was saying. When that person met my mother-in-law. You said it like the blackest thing quarks ever said. That was definitely 1 of the most awkward jokes. Shit. No,

— [109:59.520 --> 110:07.600] dog, I pay enough. I pay a lot. Bro. Valentine's Day, you getting your Valentine? The card?

— [110:08.020 --> 110:16.080] No, me. Nah. From Tiffany's. He's catching. Tiffany got a new Valentine's Day? Yeah, yeah, exactly. I promise you there will be no Valentine's Day gift for me.

— [110:16.080 --> 110:24.320] I can assure you of that. I love to watch men spoil their women on holidays. That's so good. I'm tapped still, nigga. I'm waiting for March Like a Motherfucker. And then you had her birthday,

— [110:24.320 --> 110:32.420] Christmas, everybody on top, that's the back to back. Mine too. Birthday, Christmas, all these fucking kids, birthdays. I'm tapped. I'm done. I don't have it. I'm

— [110:32.500 --> 110:40.560] done. You shouldn't mean no hell no We're building the house get the fuck out my face. Go sit down somewhere. So parks Yeah, new addition and then

— [110:40.560 --> 110:48.660] I just dinner like dinner. You gotta do a little something. I'm in a front row. Does that matter? First off, it should always be 4-row. Tell Beyonce,

— [110:48.800 --> 110:56.940] nigga, please. I just tell her. That don't mean nothing. I can give Ricky Bell some money so he can come down there. He said it's 4-row.

— [110:57.600 --> 111:05.740] That's the norm. Yeah, that's regular. You just fit. I've got you. See, that's the problem. Yeah, that's the problem. That's the game, bro. All right. The game is the game.

— [111:05.740 --> 111:13.820] So let me see what day Valentine's Day 4 on. It's like a Saturday. It's a Saturday. Oh, yeah, nah. Yes, it's Saturday. Because the show was a Friday night. That's why I was like, right. Oh, that is a Friday.

— [111:13.820 --> 111:21.820] It's Friday the 13th. Oh, shit. It's Friday the 13th. These chicks think something lit about to happen. That's what I'm trying to tell you, dog. Something lit is about to happen. You're doing something. She leaving with

— [111:21.820 --> 111:29.840] something. I better take my nap on Friday. Leaving with something. I better take my nap on Friday. What does that mean? You're that good holiday dick. Okay.

— [111:29.840 --> 111:38.140] You getting some holiday dick and. I don't think it's not wrong with saying holiday dick because girls definitely try to give up pussy for the holidays. You got to get a new fresh batch.

— [111:38.920 --> 111:47.060] Fresh batch dick? It's bald. Fresh batch what? You said bald. Yes. The blue things. I need some now Cory

— [111:47.060 --> 111:55.120] keep coming to my door. Tell me awesome. Yo 3 of my good fucking sex pills And

— [111:55.120 --> 112:03.960] you know how to tell your man when you run it low or some shit and you need a like I need another like damn nigga me too Take

— [112:03.960 --> 112:11.980] a whole sex I did angel dust Damn nigga, me too. God damn. You take a whole sex pill? Huh? Yo, you... This is crazy. You niggas is crazy. Bitch, I did angel dust. I have a high tolerance. I have

— [112:11.980 --> 112:20.060] a very high tolerance. You're not trying to get high. You're trying to get hard, nigga. I'm just saying, motherfucker that smoke PCP's not gonna say, take half

— [112:20.060 --> 112:28.260] the blue dolphin. Yeah, that's what they need to know about a real dolphin. This nigga's such a jerk. Crazy, yo. For that bitch. Again, nigga, you ain't getting high,

— [112:28.260 --> 112:36.380] you getting hard. It's not the point. Yo, your bloodstream ain't your mother. It went over your head.

— [112:36.380 --> 112:44.660] Do you guys want to talk about the canceling of Vince Staples' show? That sucked. Yeah, that did suck. We apologize, Vince.

— [112:44.840 --> 112:53.080] Yeah. What we apologize for? We ain't canceling. I watched it, too. Because what happens is we should have came in and made a big to do about

— [112:53.080 --> 113:01.160] it. We should have definitely made it our priority and our business to watch it, support it, and come in and talk about it. I unfortunately never saw it. Yeah, me neither. And I've heard great things about it. You didn't

— [113:01.160 --> 113:09.300] see the first season. I saw the first season. And I heard it was amazing. The first season was really good. The second season was still very good. I blame Netflix in terms of marketing and advertising.

— [113:09.380 --> 113:17.560] There was almost none. I think Vince was even going around saying, if I don't tweet this, no one's gonna watch it because they don't know it exists. And That's my point. So to us, I'm talking about the people in

— [113:17.560 --> 113:26.120] this room. That's our job if we know he not getting the proper marketing and that's our homeboy, we should have marketed his show more. I

— [113:26.120 --> 113:34.180] still put it on Netflix, but I get what you're saying. We should help, but yeah, Netflix should do it. I thought we were really excited about it and talked about it as soon

— [113:34.180 --> 113:42.540] as we learned it was coming. Yeah, he got picked, but that was last, we talked about it. Once we knew they re-upped them for season 2, we went crazy. Season 2 came out and

— [113:42.540 --> 113:50.940] we didn't. Netflix should have had Vince go to where his audience is. And they didn't.

— [113:51.740 --> 114:00.120] They didn't. I'm not owning that. I was on the phone with Vince while he was in New York trying desperately to get to this show because niggas.

— [114:01.280 --> 114:09.340] And his schedule was jam packed with other shit. So I mean, he went where it was a priority for him to go

— [114:09.340 --> 114:17.540] and they got those results. It also seemed like in speaking to him that he was aware a little bit. Like he was

— [114:17.540 --> 114:25.600] aware that I'm going, he may have been against some things, fighting silent battles behind the scenes, and now when it's promo time, you sending me

— [114:25.600 --> 114:33.820] to Good Day New York, and fucking, I think that Z-Way interview, if it wasn't for that. It was amazing. The Z-Way interview took off, was excellent.

— [114:33.820 --> 114:41.860] If it wasn't for that, he went to a bunch of whitewash shit. I don't think I saw him anywhere else, honestly. And that's that. But Vince is a friend of the show. He's

— [114:41.960 --> 114:50.560] actually family of the show at this point. I support Everything that he does. I don't think this will be his last shot. He's extremely talented Extremely

— [114:50.560 --> 114:58.740] talented. I'm pretty sure someone else will pick up the show Because it's good it's not like it's good Properly. Yeah, take

— [114:58.740 --> 115:07.220] it to FX take it to max just take it take it somewhere else or write a new show or write a new show I don't think this is the last that we've seen of

— [115:07.360 --> 115:15.440] Vince Staples on a big or small screen yeah Vince is brilliant yeah that's that's that's 1 of my this 1 of my young mentors man

— [115:15.440 --> 115:23.460] he mentors me that's dope yeah that's my guy absolutely absolutely love him really wait he's your what he's your mentor no What is he to

— [115:23.460 --> 115:31.460] you? What'd you just call him? He's my mentor. His mentor is Vizepa. My mentor is Joe Button. Yeah, he mentors me on some things. I left the game in

— [115:31.460 --> 115:39.540] 06. I need the young niggas to tell me what's going on out there. I did my first show in Jersey and I came out to pump, pump, pump it up. Did you

— [115:39.540 --> 115:47.620] pump it up? Yes. I was supposed to come because Mark was supposed to invite me. You didn't show up. It's the second 1. Mark Never called and never invited me. Joe, I'm over

— [115:47.620 --> 115:55.780] it. It's cool. How'd it go? It went great. And I was gonna say, cause is that in your area in New Brunswick? Are y'all like from the area? Those people. They are. No, we're not.

— [115:55.780 --> 116:04.020] They are. Them 2. These 2 bitch ass niggas are. Can you please tell me what's up with New Brunswick? Like what kind of area it is? They gotta tell you. It's a college town. It's a college town. Ruckers

— [116:04.020 --> 116:12.060] dominates. I swear like the soft niggas be at least 2 niggas. Ruckers dominates the town. I feel like it was like. And they got mad projects and you won't go down there talking that shit. Not a

— [116:12.060 --> 116:20.160] 1. They run you out of there just like they ran you out of Jersey City. I won't go there for a day. We know. The people of New Brunswick were cool as shit. I want you to know that. They were. And they were nicely

— [116:20.160 --> 116:29.280] dressed. And they treated me good when I was at Rockers too. Let me stop talking shit. They did? Yeah, when I went to Rockers, hell yeah. I was excited to have me. Anyhoo,

— [116:30.260 --> 116:38.280] what else, what else, what else, what else? What else, what else is important? Vince, I love you man. Yeah, we love you Vince. Bounce right back. I love you too. Ain't

— [116:38.280 --> 116:46.860] no thing. Ella Mae has a new project dropping. I pre-ordered it because Stan of course same executive

— [116:46.860 --> 116:54.980] producer beef And actually, before we even get to that, come on, because I meant to play this to other. Beef. Let's see. I'm joking. It's not really

— [116:54.980 --> 117:03.080] beef. Bong, bong, bong, bong, 1. He likes it. Yeah, here we go. Here we go. Come on, let me do Ella. Let me do Ella Mae right, man. I

— [117:03.080 --> 117:11.080] ain't going to act like she ain't been dropping no heat around here. That's still Ella May. Let's not get it fucked up around here. And as fire as it is, that is not why they brought the

— [117:11.080 --> 117:21.180] topic up. So who's executive producing Ella May's new project? Buster, of course. Also, Jason Tatum. Good

— [117:21.180 --> 117:29.680] to see who's a better executive producer, LeBron or Jason Tatum. Oh yeah, Jason Tatum, I need your shoe sizes. Yeah.

— [117:29.680 --> 117:38.120] I need your shoe sizes. Jason Tatum asked me for it, I gotta get it to him. He asked me that a year ago. I gotta get it to him. But anyway, all right, so yo JT

— [117:38.360 --> 117:46.520] attend my nigga That's all you got he watches see you that type of nigga for what? Yo, JT It's a man. You know,

— [117:46.680 --> 117:54.900] give me your side Give me your side That's for you to yo JT He

— [117:54.900 --> 118:03.000] was at the finals game up there. That's why I don't introduce none of my people no more. Because of shit like that. I don't introduce you to none of my people for other reasons, bitch ass nigga. I know

— [118:03.000 --> 118:11.020] Mandy, I know Danny, I know your people already. I know your old people. I know. Oh, I know, it's the cruel gang. You

— [118:11.020 --> 118:19.020] corny. How do we feel? I know y'all want to make some jokes about this. I can't because Jason Tatum is my man. I think it's fire. Jason Tatum is 1 of my

— [118:19.020 --> 118:27.120] better internet friends. I think it's fire. What's the internet friend? Not a real friend. People that you're just friends with. Like a parent social thing. Yeah, like people

— [118:27.120 --> 118:39.000] that you root for, that you pretty fly with digitally. Oh, I have a lot of exchange little lol's in the DM Good

— [118:39.000 --> 118:47.440] digital friend of mine hate speech in the DM. So I try to hold it down for him and They pretty private with their relationship And

— [118:47.440 --> 118:55.440] because they put so much effort toward that, I don't come on air talking about them 2 niggas like that. And that's probably a large reason why Jason Tatum

— [118:55.440 --> 119:03.580] won't come sit down over here because he don't trust us to not bring up shit like that. I think it's fire. Why? Because he a cupcake ass

— [119:03.580 --> 119:11.780] nigga, that's why. You the icing. That's why. You bitch ass nigga. I don't know what you're talking about. Wait a minute, he's the icing of, did you just say it? I'm the icing

— [119:11.780 --> 119:20.840] to your cupcake. Aw, issue. You just go ahead. Aw, issue fool. You might want to take that back. I love you too, Isshifu. I

— [119:20.840 --> 119:28.880] think that... Nigga, you the icing. That is not a good thing. You don't want to be the cupcake. Ella May is Ella May, right?

— [119:29.100 --> 119:37.520] She's 1 of them. And I think that if they had an opportunity where he could necessarily fund her project or some shit, you could kind of bypass

— [119:37.740 --> 119:45.760] a bunch of the bullshit. That's maybe that is. You get what I'm saying? You don't think it's a creative input. You think it's strictly financial. It could be. You don't

— [119:45.760 --> 119:53.940] think Jason Tatum knows slaps? Yeah, I do. But again, if I could finally enter my Shorty's project, she don't need to label as much, she don't

— [119:53.940 --> 120:02.640] have to have as much label support and we could do it that way, it's worth a shot. That would make you an EP? Yeah. So that's part of the conversation, right?

— [120:02.640 --> 120:10.800] Cause I'm an EP. That's all an EP is. I'm an EP if I got a $500 million contract and you my girl. I Thought EP was

— [120:10.800 --> 120:22.600] the person that funds things so it depends music. It's also sometimes a creative Million

— [120:22.600 --> 120:30.860] albums that's putting another check over here in my household, we gonna build an empire together. You think Jason's gonna want his cut? No,

— [120:30.860 --> 120:38.940] in the household. Try to cut the dance. Not in his pocket. You know what I'm saying? You think really wealthy men are looking to their

— [120:38.940 --> 120:46.980] girl to form a business empire with them? Yes. Tell me more. I think that, I think, let me take this, let

— [120:46.980 --> 120:55.040] me rewind this. I think it depends on the mentality of the man. Some really wealthy men, from what I've seen, want their

— [120:55.040 --> 121:03.140] wife to just shut up and be seen. And that's a control thing. Then there's other men that got a little bit more security. They wanna build something with their wives.

— [121:03.140 --> 121:11.580] I think that when you get married or you have a brand, I think it just helps the brand when you marry to somebody that's successful too, when you're all just working together in concert.

— [121:11.600 --> 121:20.000] Mark Ice Parks? I'm good with it if it's a business EP, if it's I pay for this project. Where I get nervous

— [121:20.140 --> 121:28.340] is when people start dating artists, and I'm not saying this is Jason Taylor, but when I saw the headline, that's what I thought. When you start dating artists,

— [121:28.340 --> 121:36.400] you start having creative input. You start wanting to give them- I be spitting. Yeah, right. Them drums can be tweaked a little bit. And I've been in that situation

— [121:36.400 --> 121:44.400] where you date a artist, you know what I mean, and you start giving input on songs and thoughts and things like that, and you start really thinking you, that's what you did?

— [121:44.950 --> 121:53.380] Yeah. I thought they were trying to control your speeches. I think actually landed on

— [121:53.920 --> 122:02.300] a did you answer the question? Now, if you were super wealthy, would you be looking toward your wife to be a business empire

— [122:02.300 --> 122:10.940] with you or be some type of power. No, I would want to just create what her, I would want to partner with her on things. You're doing it right now? Exactly.

— [122:10.940 --> 122:18.980] That's a perfect example. I'm bleeding money from this shit. He says he's not super wealthy, that's why I didn't. I'm not super, I don't have no money. But I love to work with my wife on stuff, but I

— [122:18.980 --> 122:26.980] don't want her, like you said, like working on my speeches, I'm not gonna be writing her books, you know what I mean? Like we can have our own worlds. But I like the idea of saying we can build stuff together. All

— [122:26.980 --> 122:35.100] I'm saying is, I've seen people start to get in the studio, get in the booth, And that's what I don't want. I just don't want any creative. Offering input. What about

— [122:35.100 --> 122:43.280] you man? I would absolutely want my partner if I was wealthy to do it, to build it together. But. Yo,

— [122:43.280 --> 122:51.440] sit your FAS down. Hold on. Now To this EP shit, can I be a little toxic? Please. Please. Why can't this just be a nigga saying

— [122:51.440 --> 122:59.840] this shit might go and in the event we don't work out. I want my peace. I think they're married. In the event

— [122:59.840 --> 123:08.000] that this don't work out. If They're not married, they're a day from it. In the event this don't work out, I'm Jason Tatum, I got $600 million, I'm still

— [123:08.000 --> 123:16.980] young as fuck, I don't need Jeff. He'll be fine. Parks, did I need to ask you? What's the question? Nice. If

— [123:16.980 --> 123:25.290] you were super wealthy, would you be looking to your partner for you guys to become a business powerhouse? If

— [123:25.290 --> 123:33.620] she was into it. I've tried to encourage certain things and it doesn't necessarily work out. You guys, make some noise for yourself. Joe, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey,

— [123:33.780 --> 123:42.200] you guys, hold on, sir. Hey, Big Mona. Hey, Joe. These niggas are such cupcakes. Joe. Facts. We'd like to ask you a question now as well. Yeah. And

— [123:42.260 --> 123:52.860] I want Mona's answer to this too. My baby's eyes. Thanks for being on the show. Thank you so much. This

— [123:52.860 --> 124:01.140] the main. Right. This not Patreon. This the main. She listened to all of this. I know, I know. My girl listened to it all. Tell them where, tell them where,

— [124:01.220 --> 124:11.760] YouTube lines, tell them where, shield me shit. Comments? Oh, yeah, commenters. This

— [124:11.760 --> 124:20.460] is interesting, right? Because a Cameron conversation went viral recently where he was talking to his ex. And his ex was saying, yo,

— [124:20.460 --> 124:28.700] when we were together, you didn't support me. And he was saying, no, I supported you. I just wasn't into

— [124:28.700 --> 124:36.780] your business ventures because I thought that they were bad investments. And you take that as I don't support you and that couldn't

— [124:36.780 --> 124:44.880] be further from the truth. It was an interesting talk that they were having, but if I'm guessing, I just had

— [124:44.880 --> 124:53.880] this talk with my girl last month. I think I told y'all, hey, what do you want for your birthday? I want a content building. No.

— [124:57.200 --> 125:05.580] Sorry. And she said, why? Because I don't think that that's the greatest investment and she said but it's a gift.

— [125:05.820 --> 125:14.040] No, it ain't Why yeah, it's a gift because it ain't a gift. Why it's not a good you said what do you Keep on giving

— [125:14.240 --> 125:22.620] you said what do you want for your birthday? Mm-hmm, and she said X So if I want X for my birthday as a gift, get me X.

— [125:23.360 --> 125:31.370] Y'all allowed this to be spit in the face. That ain't a one-off. That ain't a one-off. That's the problem. That's why it's not a gift. It'd be like if somebody said I want a cell phone for my birthday, but you gotta

— [125:31.370 --> 125:39.520] pay the bill every month. What's your like? It's a bill, it's not a gift, it's a bill. Well, it's also his line of work, so it's gonna become, if she gets really into it, now

— [125:39.520 --> 125:47.620] you are executive producing whatever she's done, whether you like it or not. Yeah. That nigga wanna content building, I like your style. I'm cool on that.

— [125:47.840 --> 125:56.260] Some business ideas that like Mark was saying, like you're inheriting maintenance, you're inheriting fees, staff

— [125:56.260 --> 126:04.340] fees, fucking supply fees. It's a lot more fees and time. That's time away from me. No, I'm

— [126:04.340 --> 126:12.440] talking about the conversation that Kim had with his ex. Can we talk about it? I want you to answer

— [126:12.440 --> 126:20.620] the question. Yeah, because he spent your I'm sorry. It's been your I went home to answer the question. He's good at that too, I wrote notes. No, I'm not looking to my

— [126:20.620 --> 126:28.940] partner to help us be some type of power couple. If she wants to go join like a sewing club though, or a- The peace club.

— [126:28.980 --> 126:37.060] Or a Knitting club. Some knitting shit. Volunteer at the old folks home. I encourage her to find some shit to do with

— [126:37.060 --> 126:45.260] yourself. Do something. How about you, Mona? Mona ain't getting no nigga no time. Mona is a long way from

— [126:45.260 --> 126:53.340] winning. I like the idea of chasing money with my partner, whatever, but I know in reality when I've done it, it's like that shit spill over

— [126:53.340 --> 127:01.480] to the house cause y'all get to fussing about shit. So if you almost like, I feel like it's hard to cut it off, whatever y'all fussing about, investment you made, sometimes that comes

— [127:01.480 --> 127:10.300] to the house and that shit. We're gonna cut it. It's like. Who gonna back up? Exactly. I promise, and usually, y'all

— [127:10.300 --> 127:18.340] call me ghetto or drug dealer, but I promise, any business venture I've had with a man, it was some drug shit. So far. But it's the same thing, it's a fucking business and you make a lot

— [127:18.340 --> 127:26.600] of money. If you're a halfway decent dude out there and you're looking to manage a comedian, there's an easy entry way. There's a real easy entry way.

— [127:26.600 --> 127:34.820] If you're a halfway, what you say? And she don't even need a big beat, she won't fuck with you. Shut up, what you say? If you're a halfway decent man. Why halfway

— [127:34.840 --> 127:43.160] decent, Joey? Because it ain't gonna take like. No, but that's, we still not shooting for that lifestyle. But halfway decent is good. No, decent. First

— [127:43.160 --> 127:51.180] of all, if you're halfway decent and you come in my life, my mentor and my new brothers are gonna smell it and they're gonna get rid of you, correct? That's a fact. Yes. Fuck, we played too

— [127:51.180 --> 128:00.160] much with these niggas. No, but seriously, I feel like now, if you tell me, you in particular, tell me that a

— [128:00.160 --> 128:08.420] drug business that I might have had, would it mean, is any different from a legal business? It's the same thing where it's like, we can't cut it off once we get in the crib. We still have, it's still tension

— [128:08.420 --> 128:16.420] from what we were doing outside. I don't think that that would be different with a legal business than an illegal business, seriously. It would be a little bit. Oh, I think it is. It is a little bit. Why? Because it's more stressful?

— [128:16.540 --> 128:24.640] Yeah, yeah. You kind of always got to be on when you sell crack to the community. Whereas, no, if it's like pre-paid legal, you can kind of just say, we'll talk about

— [128:24.640 --> 128:32.840] it on Saturday. No, listen, make sure you put the double lock on the door before you come upstairs. Before you come upstairs, make sure you tuck

— [128:32.840 --> 128:49.240] that in the crawlspace They kicked the door. I do kind of want to hear the fights. What was the fight about? I had to shoot that Listen

— [128:49.280 --> 128:58.100] but that's what I think I do like the idea of us chasing the same thing, especially with the economy, how hard it is out here. So if y'all got something, y'all got something. Average

— [128:58.100 --> 129:06.180] person, the bitch is not a great singer and this nigga is good at sports like in average people. She's a great singer. You know what I mean? So it's like, if we got something, we gonna push it.

— [129:06.180 --> 129:14.840] And sometimes we need all the energy to make it into this thing, you know? But I don't know. I like the idea of that being separate. I

— [129:14.840 --> 129:24.740] do, yeah. I think it's probably. That's what I didn't get to unless you get to it. Let's get to it. When you used to get a new girl. They had money, right? That's

— [129:24.740 --> 129:33.080] not where I was going, but I think they did. I know. Every time you got with a girl. That's what you ain't fuck with, right? No, it's the fact that they sonned you out and hired

— [129:33.080 --> 129:41.090] you to their business and now you fucking looking up shit in encyclopedias I love that is that what happened? Like you've had some of your bitches hired you? Yeah they hired this

— [129:41.090 --> 130:02.200] nigga now you don't want to hang out no more Why would you not be a supporter of your girls dreams? And that's what I love about you because I feel like you wanted him fuck my friends. I got a big This

— [130:02.200 --> 130:10.200] 1 means to be outside at the height of our outsideness. My girl used to be mad. As she should. This nigga keep dragging me outside. So

— [130:10.200 --> 130:18.260] he's sitting here lying. But I think that any nigga out here, especially if you have the ability to stand behind your girl dreams, why would you

— [130:18.260 --> 130:26.640] not? Well let me ask you this, have you ever did it reverse where she chased your dreams with you? Yes. Oh yeah. And them same chicks that was getting money, they was helping me get money too. No cap.

— [130:26.820 --> 130:35.020] He know, I'm a jigga low, spending lots of dough. Cut. Tepper. Go ahead. You see him tapping me? You know your man, you ain't supposed

— [130:35.020 --> 130:43.100] to do that. Well, when he, that 1 where he put her on his business, she ran off. Oh, I knew that was gonna happen. She ran off with all the houses.

— [130:43.200 --> 130:51.240] It's not the fuck up. That was his darkest time period and like he was really down in the press. Did you kill that? He wanted to unalive himself I beat that bitch ass. Wait that

— [130:51.240 --> 130:59.380] really happened? I was there for him How many houses did Joey have? It's definitely happened. How many houses did Joey have? How many houses did Joey have? I can lie

— [130:59.380 --> 131:07.540] so much. All of them. Like everything he had. He was broke. Shut the fuck up. He was down bad. She wiped him clean. Yes. Oh

— [131:07.540 --> 131:15.740] my God. What the fuck? What happened? We want to know the story. They don't know. They really don't know. I really don't know. I really don't know. I'm just

— [131:15.740 --> 131:23.800] crying. Sure they took your shit? Sorry. Please. You have to talk about your damn time. If you don't tell us something, Joe's gonna tell us. We can't enjoy your good times if we don't talk about your damn time. That's a short word. That's

— [131:23.800 --> 131:32.060] a shit. What happened? You ain't gonna tell us? It's everything he had. She did some trickery business shit? He was so down to hell. Or was you blinded by some pussy? Just tell us the story, man. Nothing. In

— [131:32.060 --> 131:40.240] life, you make bad business decisions. Literally nothing, yo. When you don't necessarily protect the cleaners. See, if you keep talking, let him talk, man. See, he'll go tell the story.

— [131:40.460 --> 131:48.480] Have you ever heard the term, take to the cleaners? Dog, She took my man

— [131:48.480 --> 131:56.780] to the cleaners. And when you said you were there for him, you bought his next investment property so he could flip it? No, no, no. Answer that. He was there for you just talking to you.

— [131:57.380 --> 132:05.620] He sat on the phone with you all night. I gave him a show to lean on and pussy to penetrate. What? That ain't enough. That ain't enough. What?

— [132:05.620 --> 132:13.780] That's not you. That ain't enough. Did you hear yourself? For real, niggas be feeling down on themselves, feel like they can't go get it on their own. Yo, I

— [132:13.780 --> 132:22.240] got you. Yo, come on. Yo, we out. Yo, we out tonight. You mean finding pussy and you too down to go pull it yourself. Yes, a real friend. That's a real friend. A real friend.

— [132:22.380 --> 132:30.700] Wait, but I just. Thank you. I'm just trying to understand this. Oh, God. What did she do? You don't think I could go get no box? Listen, that's not what we're talking about. You couldn't get no box then.

— [132:30.700 --> 132:38.780] We're talking about you being white. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You talking tough now that you cleaned yourself up and got some that's that is fucking cuffs. Then at that point when you

— [132:38.780 --> 132:46.960] was down and out, shit out of luck without a door up out the pit, saying no you couldn't get no bitches. Your eyes was a different color, your skin looked bad, you was down bad.

— [132:47.320 --> 132:55.380] No, you couldn't. You cleaned yourself up. Look, look at him perform. You know how you know it's a lie? You up, you bounce back, because look what you did. I'm not gonna yell or scream. Look,

— [132:55.380 --> 133:03.580] look, you perform it. I've never been ugly and I never. But he had all our time. And I never been broke. He had all our time. And I always could talk. He had all our time. So those 3 things in combination, I could get some pussy

— [133:03.580 --> 133:11.580] niggas. Ugly stuff you don't know about. Fuck is you talking about? Hey, what the fuck you talking about? We not gonna do that. You get a bunch of pussy if they feel like they can get 1000 doors

— [133:11.580 --> 133:19.700] at the end of the deal. You can feel what you wanna feel. Feelings don't equal facts. Mona, I was there for him. I know I help him feel a little better during 1 of

— [133:19.700 --> 133:28.040] the darker periods of his life You about to piss me off. Sometimes he act like you Was his eyes brown yeah some wax shit

— [133:29.920 --> 133:38.600] He lost the twinkle You know everybody here knows the joke because imagine you ugly. Can't

— [133:38.940 --> 133:47.100] cry. Can't even work. Can't even picture it. Yo, you're so stupid. But how she take your doors? Yo, you wanna talk about? Marcus talking to you. You gonna piss me off? Marcus

— [133:47.100 --> 133:55.300] talking to you. I'm done talking to you. Okay, you better shut up. She took your shit, nigga. Talk to your shit, y'all go out. Why'd she take your doors then? Bad. And put you out. That didn't ever happen.

— [133:55.300 --> 134:03.620] She put you out. Who was there to pick you up? Was she white? Yeah, no, watch yourself. Who was there to pick you up when she kicked you out? In the rain, it was raining too. Whoever kicked me out. It

— [134:03.820 --> 134:11.980] was raining. And it was raining. He's standing on River Road talking about what light you had. Nigga, I'm coming, I'm at the

— [134:11.980 --> 134:20.340] light. I'm at the light, money. I'll be right there. Money, I'm at the light, money. I'm right there. Yeah, you hear that, nigga? He act like he forget.

— [134:20.460 --> 134:28.520] I had the Bugs Bunny bag with the stick. Don't act like you forgot, yo. Yeah, I know. We been there for each other in our friendship, nigga. That's all I'm saying. He had the stick with the handkerchief on the bottom. That's all I'm saying.

— [134:28.520 --> 134:36.680] This nigga is a, yo, you the greatest, bro. Nah, This nigga funny as shit, bro. Mark, you don't win. He never answered my question. I give up. I was.

— [134:36.900 --> 134:45.340] Oh, tell me what happened. Nothing. Sometimes you enter back. Don't talk, don't talk. You could just enter into a business with somebody

— [134:45.900 --> 134:54.160] and when the business go wrong or the relationship go wrong niggas will be on some bullshit. They'll dissolve you out. So

— [134:54.160 --> 135:02.420] she walk with all the stuff? Yeah. Have you seen her since? Yeah. Y'all good now? Yeah. Have you ever hit her? Physically?

— [135:02.560 --> 135:10.600] Like a punch? Or like a shove? Like a good mush? Not a lot. You can't, a bitch ain't good for a mush after

— [135:10.600 --> 135:18.900] burning you out of $200, 000? I can't mush you at the invest fest 10 years after I ain't seen you

— [135:18.900 --> 135:26.980] do that. No. Oh yeah, you're a tripper. You're the mushner? Oh I'm mushin' her. From the front. What's 10 times 25 grand? Like I'm bad at math. 250?

— [135:27.380 --> 135:36.280] 10 times, yeah. Like 250 work hours. Yo. This morning I took what is called. I'm

— [135:36.280 --> 135:44.340] gonna whoop that bitch ass. It's all right. No, but you, but listen, but pay attention to the story. It's a lesson learned, yo. Right, and the lesson was, you could've took precautions

— [135:44.420 --> 135:52.840] that made it that it wouldn't happen. So what you did was highlight your mistakes. And check yourself. Instead of worrying about the fact that this dirty scoundrel robbed you of everything you had left you in

— [135:52.840 --> 136:00.920] the rain with a bandana on a stick. She was lesson free. No she wasn't. She walked away unscathed.

— [136:03.420 --> 136:11.760] No jail time. She was driving. No community service. No nothing. He not calling a better business girl. He had to go, he had to bounce back. That's why it's tough being a guy sometimes.

— [136:11.980 --> 136:20.020] Like you gotta bounce back no matter what. You do gotta bounce back. And what happens when you bounce back? Better. Better than ever. Eyes more twinkly. And they look in they

— [136:20.020 --> 136:28.200] wounds. More doors. Ooh, now they saw me. Stop bro, don't do that. Let me take my pills. Stop. What do you mean? He said when you bounce back,

— [136:28.200 --> 136:36.600] your eyes are greener than they ever were. When you bounce back, you doing better than the bitch that robbed you for the little 250. What's 250 to a millionaire, nigga? Is she doing bad now?

— [136:36.760 --> 136:44.840] Yeah, on fucking damn bad. She still got them houses? She still got them houses? No, she sold them. On a wet block. Oh, damn. She sold them. God damn. They kept

— [136:44.840 --> 136:52.860] the money. Damn, that's just... It's cool though. It's thing me, man. Yikes. What they talking about? I'm not saying a word, I'm

— [136:52.860 --> 137:01.260] chilling. Listen bro, I don't want... Just 1 last question, were you really like really fucked up financially or was Joe just fucking with us? No, he was down really bad. No, I wasn't

— [137:01.460 --> 137:09.540] I wasn't what he talked about the pores. I was money in business. You were still inside you still house I've never

— [137:09.540 --> 137:20.340] seen important Down

— [137:20.340 --> 137:28.400] bad as I have But take a look at now You bounce back, fuck that shit.

— [137:28.620 --> 137:37.000] Anyway. Fuck that bitch. What else needs our attention? Listen. Oh, good. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, this is important.

— [137:37.060 --> 137:45.280] This is another time that Ish was wrong. So Charles Barkley gave an interview the other day, and 1 of the things he talked about

— [137:45.280 --> 137:53.460] was saying that he wished that he was on TV more. Because TNT's inside the NBA, it's only been on I think

— [137:53.460 --> 138:01.740] 3 or 4 times all NBA season. The NBA has kind of pulled the plug on that and basically said, this ain't our show. And Charles

— [138:01.740 --> 138:09.740] is just saying, he was, and he said, like, I used to say, I wouldn't be on TV. I didn't want to do that ESPN shit where you work in all them channels, but I do wish we was on TV a little bit. And he said he hoped

— [138:09.740 --> 138:17.860] that things would get better in the spring. So it just seemed to be that the NBA really doesn't fuck with this show. And my theory is that they didn't want the show to exist anymore at all. And

— [138:17.860 --> 138:26.080] instead of just killing the show where they could go elsewhere, they did the industry thing, like you do in movies where you buy it and then you put it on the shelf so no 1 else can have it. So I just think that's

— [138:26.080 --> 138:34.220] funny. I think it's poetic justice. Cause I remember when they were on TNT and Charles was clowning ESPN people. They do Spanish, they do this, they do that, they work 50 jobs,

— [138:34.220 --> 138:42.320] like clowning them and now he ain't getting that. And be clear, he's still clowning them. He said a lot more than you even said. He was clowning some

— [138:42.320 --> 138:50.460] of the commentators, the experts, the analysts, he was clowning ESPN 1, 2, 3, De Portes, he was clowning Some of the shit that you have to say to even

— [138:50.460 --> 138:58.520] be on TV, clown the amount of times they've been on ESPN, not just since the NBA season, but this month as a whole. He said they'd been there like twice or 3 times this month. He

— [138:58.520 --> 139:06.580] said he don't care if he get fired. He was shooting at the upper executives. Hey, I would love nothing more than to get fired and y'all have to pay me out the rest

— [139:06.580 --> 139:14.800] of my contract for the next 7 years. I triple, triple, triple dare you. Please let me go home and golf. Please let me go home and golf and get paid instead of doing this bullshit.

— [139:14.800 --> 139:22.920] He said a lot, He said a lot. But the big takeaway was that he was upset because the show's not on, there's no airtime. I agree with everything Park said. They just wanted that show

— [139:22.920 --> 139:31.060] off of the air and it wasn't really good toward the end. 1 of the best shows ever, my opinion, toward the end, not

— [139:31.060 --> 139:39.060] so much. Where was I wrong? You were saying that they'll be fine and they

— [139:39.060 --> 139:47.200] are still on television. I didn't I didn't say that I said the NBA ratings have dropped I said people would watch the show just to see

— [139:47.200 --> 139:55.600] Charles, Kenny and Ernie and Shaq make you laugh. It could be a game with fucking the Pelicans in Milwaukee and

— [139:55.600 --> 140:03.680] niggas are watched for them. I said they were an attraction in and of themselves. And I said that I think the new people that have replaced them are not

— [140:04.180 --> 140:12.200] fan favorites like they were. I ain't say nothing about them being okay. I think them niggas love that job. I think when you rich and you don't

— [140:12.200 --> 140:20.620] got nothing to do, coming to work sometimes with niggas that you fuck with, doing something that you love, i.e. Coming to this podcast, it gives a level of

— [140:21.580 --> 140:29.800] enjoyment that we could come up here and talk shit and still get paid to talk shit. Like, it's cool. I think them niggas love that job. I think they modified

— [140:29.800 --> 140:37.860] their lives for that job. And I think they type when that shit, they expressed that they was tight when that shit got canceled. I just think that those niggas,

— [140:38.700 --> 140:46.760] cause you came in and were saying that their new assessment would be, oh yo they not working hard enough, they not playing hard enough, they wouldn't go into the analytical stuff

— [140:46.760 --> 140:54.860] about basketball no more. They was just real short with it toward the end of they run. I think that was the bottom line of my point is that

— [140:54.860 --> 141:03.200] they, they, you can tell that they weren't watching games. Yeah, you said that they were extra critical of their business partners

— [141:03.760 --> 141:11.920] and the product had just deteriorated. It's still a performance-based business. I think that EJ and Kenny Smith will be fine because

— [141:11.920 --> 141:20.140] they're really, really good at just explaining things. Shaq got too much business and too much money to really care about. And he's not a basketball

— [141:20.140 --> 141:28.600] player. But know what the funny part is? E.J. And Kenny would handle the analytical stuff. What made that show that show was the banter,

— [141:28.900 --> 141:36.980] the comedy and all of that shit that also came from Chuck and Shaq. When you take those 2 that are the journal, like the more

— [141:36.980 --> 141:45.140] journalistic, if that's a word. They're actually just analysts, they're basketball analysts. And you take Shaq and Charles and bring it all together, I think it's a real good gumbo

— [141:45.140 --> 141:53.140] that everybody liked because the comedic portion and the performative portion came from Chuck and Shaq. But what if everybody didn't like it? Like, what if they

— [141:53.140 --> 142:01.200] ran whatever their little focal groups saw their numbers research and marketing and all that? Focus test, yeah. Yeah, and saw like, People don't want that

— [142:01.200 --> 142:09.220] no more. Oh, maybe it might have started to dip but be clear They were the number 1 sports show for a very long time Very long time and deserved

— [142:09.220 --> 142:17.420] and the rating said so and deserve maybe it took a dip. That's possible It's possible. I'm not saying that but We're not gonna say that they never had a state.

— [142:17.420 --> 142:25.460] They say they was. Yeah, they stay. They were entertaining show and I always thought they were. And I think I agree with you. Shaq and Charles added the personalities to what Kenny was doing, which

— [142:25.460 --> 142:33.720] was the analytics. And then Ernie is probably as good a host as there is. But I think the fans are also, this generation

— [142:33.720 --> 142:41.820] of fans want something else too. In the age of podcasts, blogs, where there's so much expertise or pseudo expertise, there's so much talk. People actually wanted

— [142:41.820 --> 142:50.040] to talk about Xs and Os and that makes it tough. But I think Charlton made this bed, and I love Charles Barker, I think they made this bed, and they're gonna have to lie in it now. I don't know if we'll ever see them

— [142:50.940 --> 142:59.440] on TV the way they were 5 years ago. It's possible. Probably not. Might not. Probably not. Life is a series of moments and moments pass. That's what I always say. Exactly. Did

— [142:59.440 --> 143:07.520] you guys familiarize yourself with the ESPN article, the piece that they did on the Lakers, LeBron, and Genie Bus. Oh yeah. I didn't

— [143:07.520 --> 143:16.560] see the, I didn't read the whole piece. I saw excerpts from it. And I

— [143:16.560 --> 143:24.600] think, I think it's true. And again, I've come in here and we've been talking off Mike and telling you what niggas have said to me and I ain't got

— [143:24.600 --> 143:32.820] the inside track. I ain't you know what I mean, but do be a little bit, but the shit that but didn't it mirror What the niggas been saying to me months ago, I said some of this stuff.

— [143:33.580 --> 143:41.600] And it comes out that this the same exact shit. And LeBron has denied it by the way, just for the record. Of course, and Jeannie. So what were the spicy details? That

— [143:41.600 --> 143:49.820] they tired of his shit. Ah. Him and Rich Paul are running around like they the mayor and some of these people not with that shit. The Lakers

— [143:49.820 --> 143:58.000] ain't with that shit. You said, bro, we talking about old white money, bro. Jeannie Buss privately grumbled about LeBron's outsized ego and

— [143:58.000 --> 144:06.040] clutches overt control over the organization. Some of the same things that you heard out of Miami when that whole thing was going around. And

— [144:06.280 --> 144:14.400] Cleveland. And Cleveland. Yeah, actually right about that. Lack of accountability. Jeannie Buss felt that LeBron would shift blame on to others,

— [144:14.480 --> 144:22.760] especially after the Russell Westbrook trade that did not work out. She said she can seriously considered trading

— [144:22.820 --> 144:31.120] him a few years ago. She said she feels like LeBron takes way too much credit for the organization being

— [144:31.120 --> 144:39.340] where they are. She said a lot of LeBron stuff, to which LeBron replied, I don't care about articles that are written. And all of LeBron's stuff

— [144:39.340 --> 144:47.620] is juicy for headlines. I read the entire piece, the real juice to me was about the internal fight between her and her siblings. Okay.

— [144:47.620 --> 144:55.760] Yes. Yeah. I thought that was, that's where, that's where the real team sounds like regular, like workplace bitching kind of, you know what I'm saying? No, it's, it's, it's super,

— [144:56.160 --> 145:04.200] blown up because I've talked about LeBron and the Lakers, but it sounds like, but it's every battle athlete has had with it. But the article was, it

— [145:04.200 --> 145:12.440] was talking, it was talking about how Jeannie buss maybe recognized differently in the estate

— [145:12.440 --> 145:20.460] planning then the rest of the siblings which enabled her to take a certain stance or behave in a

— [145:20.460 --> 145:28.780] way that was against the majority of the siblings, especially when it came to do with the team, the handling of it, the selling of it, so

— [145:28.780 --> 145:37.060] forth and so on. They painted her to be like a real. Well, the rest of the siblings came way after, right? Wasn't Jeannie around like

— [145:37.380 --> 145:45.400] when the purchase happened? I'm just going off of showtime. I'm not a fucking. I don't know, but what I did hear, I heard that for a while she

— [145:45.400 --> 145:53.500] stepped back from her organization because they was been beefing. And I heard she stepped back and said, cool, I'm going to let y'all do it your way for 3 or 4 years and

— [145:53.500 --> 146:01.520] we're going to see what happens. And that's when the Lakers were at low. And she came back in like, all right, let a real nigga do this now. She said

— [146:01.520 --> 146:09.720] that? As a quote. You know what I'm saying? She came back and said, yo, let me do what we gonna do and we gonna see who fares

— [146:09.720 --> 146:18.040] better when y'all was at the helm or when I'm at the helm. You understand what I'm saying? And then she fared better. And then she fared better. But she was around

— [146:18.040 --> 146:26.040] since the eighties, no? Yes. She's, she's been the 1. My dad was my, you know what I'm saying? So she grew up

— [146:26.040 --> 146:34.520] in the organization. Again, to your point, I think this is all white money. However, I'm sorry, everybody not a fan of the sport. I think she's a fan of the sport.

— [146:34.700 --> 146:43.100] Some people look at this shit like it's a business. So now when you start talking about the inner turmoil, I don't know this to be true. It could have came from the handling

— [146:43.100 --> 146:52.980] of LeBron. Well, and I think they recognize her status with the organization. However,

— [146:54.840 --> 147:02.840] the other siblings say it's pretty clearly laid out in the estate plan and if anybody ever knew their dad, that their dad wanted the Lakers to

— [147:02.840 --> 147:10.940] be a family business for the rest of life. Like any profit, any benefit, y'all divvy this up, I don't wanna

— [147:10.940 --> 147:18.940] sell this, I want y'all to work through this as a family, I gave my entire life for this, for y'all to do. Hey, so the siblings are like everything that Jeannie bus is doing

— [147:19.200 --> 147:27.240] is in stark contradiction with what dad would have wanted with his team. And they talk about they talk about the

— [147:27.240 --> 147:35.280] handling of the Mitch Kupchak firing the Magic Johnson handling. They said Jerry,

— [147:35.280 --> 147:43.300] Jerry, Jerry West has kind of been the glue behind the scenes holding things together between Jeannie, the siblings and just

— [147:43.300 --> 147:51.380] the handling of it. And all the siblings are not happy with the sale of the team and how they went about. So really, really, really interesting piece. The LeBron stuff

— [147:51.380 --> 147:59.700] was secondary to me. Yeah, that sounds interesting. To your thing, and again, now we're just being objective. If I'm the person in the office

— [147:59.700 --> 148:07.980] every day, I'm busting my ass, I'm racking my brains, I'm trying to hold this shit together, I'm trying to create winning teams, I'm trying to handle all these personalities,

— [148:08.740 --> 148:16.760] and y'all may not have more day to day duties. Y'all over there chilling being billionaires. Right. Oh, she fired them. And I'm getting

— [148:16.760 --> 148:24.820] older. She fired them from their positions with the team. Succession. Yeah, like, I'm getting older, dawg. That's true. Y'all not doing shit? You

— [148:24.820 --> 148:32.840] can't tell me I got to maintain this when y'all over there chilling. I got to hold this together and y'all just getting residuals from whatever it comes in. You can't,

— [148:32.840 --> 148:40.840] I want to live my life. I still look like a little, you know what I mean? But I'm fucking with you, but you

— [148:41.400 --> 148:49.640] might can't tell me that yo, I got to hold on to this forever, even though that was dad's wishes, it could be unfair. Y'all niggas

— [148:49.640 --> 148:58.180] ain't helping me. It'd be like that in some of these family passed down. But

— [148:58.180 --> 149:06.580] where do y'all stand on that personally? I believe if pops left control or like the final say whatever that to her, he

— [149:06.580 --> 149:14.660] saw something in her and believed in her, so obviously he didn't believe in y'all to do it a certain way. Not because you can easily say dad would have wanted this dad would have wanted that you don't

— [149:14.660 --> 149:22.660] know they conversation. You don't know what pop said to her. She sees something else. He knows something else, so I stand if he left it to her yeah. That was for a reason. I

— [149:22.660 --> 149:30.860] also think that family business shit is like dad said we wanted this to be a family business. If she is running the business, it's still the family's business. You

— [149:30.860 --> 149:39.060] know what I'm saying? Like I could see how or or you might be in an advantageous spot to say yo we ain't gonna sell the business you not doing

— [149:39.060 --> 149:47.220] shit you just collecting off of the business you just collecting nigga you not doing no heavy lifting you not helping me negotiate contracts I got to deal with these niggas when they come

— [149:47.220 --> 149:55.260] in my office, not you. Did I tell you I don't leave nothing to them dumb ass kids? I just told you. Well, all you gotta know which kids to leave it to. Which is what Pops could have did.

— [149:55.260 --> 150:03.280] He could have looked at his kids and said, yo, I know this 1 right here. She been here. She know how to run this shit. She gonna get it done the right way. And I think, I

— [150:03.280 --> 150:11.360] think that the state of business economy, et cetera, et cetera, a lot of that your family business shit is a

— [150:11.360 --> 150:19.700] thing of the past. I think that shit is a thing of the past. A lot of times now people are starting businesses. They build market share, they sell,

— [150:20.000 --> 150:28.460] they go start another 1, they build it up, they sell, and that's how niggas are scaling out here. I think it's also a little bit different when the business has made billions and billions

— [150:28.460 --> 150:36.760] of dollars. Like, we're no longer a mom and pop shop like this is an international billion multi-billion business daddy took we can cash this shit out like

— [150:36.760 --> 150:44.920] yeah you're right hey she's taking money go do something else with it I'm never selling well when I say never no time soon it won't be in mine

— [150:44.920 --> 150:53.200] or my siblings lifetime that I am selling If I know my dad's story was there to witness it firsthand, how he took his very last

— [150:53.200 --> 151:02.440] and then borrowed to get this team and kind of build the modern day live NBA game. Shit,

— [151:02.440 --> 151:10.980] did you see that? I'm never doing that. 1, 2, there's always, sometimes is that and I'm not saying that what y'all are saying is off, but also sometimes the

— [151:10.980 --> 151:19.080] sibling is presenting themselves like they're gonna hold it down for everybody and as soon as dad or mom hit the casket, now their

— [151:19.080 --> 151:27.140] own agenda's coming. They own some other shit. That's possible. And if I'm looking at what Boston sold for recently, what Golden State sold for recently, and I'm the

— [151:27.140 --> 151:35.160] Los Angeles Lakers, and granted, they got some record-breaking. They got the highest number ever. Yeah, they got a record breaking number 4 but I'm gonna hold

— [151:35.160 --> 151:44.140] on for a little bit and have faith in the direction that the NBA is going in. What if she, what if she did hold on? She

— [151:44.140 --> 151:52.720] still has a percentage I think, right? I don't know. I think so. But think about that. Let's say hypothetically. It's not majority. Maybe you you yeah you leave the

— [151:52.720 --> 152:00.900] Joe button network to try right Trey might not want to do this shit no more Trey might want to go be a family man

— [152:00.900 --> 152:08.900] like y'all I'm sitting on 100 200 300 million dollars. I don't want to have the day-to-day tasks of coming in and doing this shit no more. I

— [152:08.900 --> 152:17.160] can't go on vacations, I can't really live my life. You get what I'm saying? I think it's unfair to put that charge on somebody. Now, if they willing

— [152:17.160 --> 152:25.340] to do it, cool. But if they not willing to do it no more because they wanna go enjoy their life and not deal with the mental anguish that comes along with it. Well, the audience

— [152:25.340 --> 152:33.340] should also know you're a big Genie Buss guy. Bro, that's not about Genie Buss. But you are a big Genie Buss guy. No, I think Genie Buss is dumb. But it's

— [152:33.340 --> 152:41.692] not about her. I mentioned Trey. You get what I'm saying? I think that that's unfair. I think it's a goal that we would want our family to do

— [152:41.692 --> 152:49.800] the Kennedy thing and generations, but everybody don't want that shit. You know what's funny? Each child had a equal vote

— [152:50.080 --> 152:58.280] in the trust. And they still sold? Yeah, I guess. Somebody probably... It was according to Wikipedia. Oh yeah,

— [152:58.280 --> 153:06.500] read further on that because even though they may have had an equal vote. After her father died in 2013, his 66% controlling interest ownership of the Lakers passed to his 6

— [153:06.500 --> 153:14.680] children via trust with each child receiving an equal vote. Jerry's succession plan had Jeannie assume his previous title as Lakers governor as well as its team representative

— [153:14.720 --> 153:22.780] at the board of governors meeting. She became president leading the team's business operation while her brother Jim continued as VP of basketball operations. She had ultimate

— [153:22.780 --> 153:32.300] operational authority and could overrule Jim's position. Okay, that's interesting. There it is. So equal vote, but she was recognized differently in

— [153:32.300 --> 153:40.980] the estate. I know somebody recently who are incredibly successful in

— [153:41.220 --> 153:49.230] business. And they recently just got like a really, really, really, really, really big check. Mm-hmm. So I've

— [153:49.230 --> 153:57.540] been home all week trying to figure out what it would feel like to just get that big of a check as a result of 1 of your businesses, right?

— [153:57.540 --> 154:06.780] Give us an example. Ballpark. Ballpark. Call it 1000000000. Call it 1000000000 dollars. Okay. Have

— [154:06.780 --> 154:15.800] they been in that range before? They've had money. I mean, up here, like this is not- Probably never sold a business for 1000000000 dollars. Gotcha, okay. You

— [154:15.800 --> 154:23.980] know what I came to? This is gonna fuck you all up maybe Retirement for that person is probably really

— [154:23.980 --> 154:32.080] similar to retirement as a fireman mm-hmm I Would agree how you been Probably has a

— [154:32.080 --> 154:40.380] lot more parallels than 1 would think. I would agree. Like, you hear somebody got 1000000000 dollars, you'd be like, oh, it's lit,

— [154:40.380 --> 154:49.120] it's time, oh shit, ballin', yachts, planes, and but that person is probably sitting around like, now what?

— [154:49.200 --> 154:57.260] Oh, for sure. I don't want to sit at home I think that level of retirement that part of retirement is the same for everybody. I never had all this money now I got all this money. There's

— [154:57.260 --> 155:05.460] nothing really to do when you have all this money when you could do all of it Or have done all of it. That's why I asked you what was their financial situation prior

— [155:05.460 --> 155:13.520] to the big, big check. Now if somebody gave 1 of us, that type of check is different. But if you already been in the hundreds of millions for the last 20

— [155:13.520 --> 155:21.660] years and now you just get 1000000000 dollars. You can tend to 1000000. Your life might not change as much. Your life might not change, but you're saying now what else to do? If I've been

— [155:21.740 --> 155:29.800] building up a business to sell it and I might've made some money, made some money here, but now I hit 1 for 1000000000, so some people that could be as motivation to go do it

— [155:29.800 --> 155:37.940] again. Or now I want to go see if I can flip 1 for 2000000000 or 5000000000. Niggas work harder than us. You just keep, you keep growing. Them niggas work hard,

— [155:37.940 --> 155:46.040] bro. Like them niggas might not work physically hard, but a lot of them niggas in that upper air, they work hard. I'll go back to what you were saying. You're like,

— [155:46.040 --> 155:54.060] yo, if I could just get this much, this amount a month. Then once you got that amount of money, it was, oh shit, yo, let me go here. It could be the same thing with the business. Or if you got

— [155:54.060 --> 156:03.440] that amount of money right now, you'd be like, man, I'm poor. Chris Rock said, yo, if Bill

— [156:03.440 --> 156:11.600] Gates had Oprah and Shaq money, he'd jump off a roof and slit his throat on the way down. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, dog, it's levels to the shit.

— [156:11.600 --> 156:19.800] Why you be so- I've never put myself in the mindset to think of what that person would be thinking like in, I

— [156:19.800 --> 156:27.860] don't want to call it retirement, but. Because that might not be retirement. Semi-retirement. That might not be retirement. Yeah, it might not be. Yeah. Like if I made that much money,

— [156:27.860 --> 156:36.600] there's no way I could sit home. Yeah, you can't, how can you stop? That person's probably got that done. Will is almost in more danger than the retired fighter fighter. Yes. For

— [156:36.600 --> 156:44.620] sure. Like it's scary almost. So you're assuming that that person got that big check and now I'm done. And now it's what next? Good point.

— [156:44.620 --> 156:52.860] That person, That could be another day at the office. Now I just hit a benchmark and now, that could motivate, like now I'm, oh shit, let's go, what we doing next?

— [156:52.860 --> 157:00.860] They got several businesses. Let's go get this 1 over here. I don't wanna say anymore about them. But I'm just saying they might have several companies. Hell yeah. I just ran 1 up to a B,

— [157:00.860 --> 157:09.080] yo, let's go run the next 1 up. That's what we doing, let's get it. There was a point with you, cause we could take it off of them. There was a point with you where you was like, yo,

— [157:10.000 --> 157:18.520] I wanna get to 50, 000 a month. Right? Nigga, if you was making 50, 000 dollars a month right now, you'll be

— [157:18.520 --> 157:26.900] very grateful. Be sitting in the corner. And appreciative that God has been so kind to me and blessed me in this way. Yeah, yeah,

— [157:27.000 --> 157:35.180] yeah, I know. It's true. I'm popped this fucked up out here. This give me the 50 a month. Well, we've been trying to

— [157:35.180 --> 157:43.300] you won't return a text. I don't even. We just trying to. Man, it's sick. He'll text us whenever you're ready. What else? Did y'all listen

— [157:43.300 --> 157:51.340] to the Cameron, Letter to Dame Dash song? I did. I did. I did not. I mean, I heard half of it. I ain't listen to it. What y'all think? I don't pass on too many

— [157:51.340 --> 157:59.400] Kam freestyles. Kam still hard. That shit is too personal for me to want to get into it. I think that's why I like the song. Because it was 1 of the few times where like...

— [157:59.620 --> 158:07.800] He wasn't... It didn't feel like a diss record. Cam loves Day. Yeah, and you can tell it in the song. Cam loves Day. And I love listening to Cam rap, but also it was honest

— [158:07.800 --> 158:15.880] and there were some jabs in there, but they weren't, they didn't feel like they were mean, and they didn't feel like they were for the purpose of embarrassing them. It felt like, look, I'm really telling you how

— [158:15.880 --> 158:23.920] I feel. I want you to really think about this and reflect on this. It almost felt like an intervention. It was from the heart. Yeah, he loves it. It was from the heart. That's all I took from it. Like, y'all, this was like having a heart to

— [158:23.920 --> 158:33.320] heart with a person I can't really sit and talk to. Dame is another 1 that unless something big happen in 2026, I'm just gonna try my best to not like, it's

— [158:33.320 --> 158:41.740] never nothing. Yeah, sorry. It's me. Nah, I get it. It's Just me. I love him. I had a song. It's worth listening to. I believe you. Yeah. That's like

— [158:41.757 --> 158:49.820] that old storytelling Cam. Yes. Like he was really talking. Like he walked you back from here and we did this and we did that

— [158:49.820 --> 158:58.100] like it was almost like How you coming at me like that? Like this is what we've been through. This is who we are Like again, it wasn't a diss and

— [158:58.100 --> 159:06.180] he was honest like you helped me here. You saved me here you got me off this record label. So it wasn't, it was great, I thought it was great. Before we

— [159:06.180 --> 159:14.340] leave sports, did you guys have a chance to look at the Buffalo Bills owner in the press conference that he gave Terry

— [159:14.340 --> 159:22.340] Bagula? That was nasty. Terry Bagula and what he said, what he had to say about Keon Coleman? That was nasty. What'd he say? No. He essentially, he kind

— [159:22.340 --> 159:30.880] of blamed the failure of the team on the coach picking Keon Coleman to a degree. He

— [159:30.880 --> 159:38.960] was riding for the GM. He was riding for the GM. He was riding for the GM. They asked the GM of the team about the Keon Coleman pick. The owner chimed in and

— [159:38.960 --> 159:47.380] said, hey, can I answer that? Our GM has been taking a lot of heat. I just wanted to be known. He wasn't with the Keon Coleman pick. If it were up to him, it would have been somebody

— [159:47.400 --> 159:55.440] else I have that for fact yeah the player he was just it was it was it

— [159:55.440 --> 160:03.880] was it was it was really poorly done there's a lot of times where the owners should not fucking speak they're not they're not trained they're billionaires So

— [160:03.880 --> 160:11.880] they'd have a fucking skewed conception of reality and how to talk and a

— [160:11.880 --> 160:19.960] lot of time they talk like they're talking to the other bill. How to manage how to do a bunch of things. Yeah, look full circle back to the Lakers like yo

— [160:19.960 --> 160:27.960] dog I might be the motherfucker in the trenches every day and you not so you your opinion is weighed less than mine and Some of

— [160:27.960 --> 160:37.380] these owners got a detachment bro. They billion. This be 1 of their businesses. Uh-huh. A good enough wide receiver. Yeah,

— [160:37.380 --> 160:46.420] I mean. Can I interrupt? I'll address the Keeon situation. The

— [160:46.420 --> 160:54.880] coaching staff pushed to draft Keon. I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he wasn't

— [160:55.200 --> 161:03.320] his next choice. That was Brandon being a team player and taking advice of his coaching

— [161:03.320 --> 161:11.820] staff who felt strongly about the player and you know he's

— [161:12.360 --> 161:20.560] taken for some reason the heat over it and not saying a word about it, but I'm here to tell you the true

— [161:20.560 --> 161:29.740] story. See what really happens in a lot of these, it's like Game of Thrones level fucking getting ahead. The

— [161:30.060 --> 161:38.080] GM Brandon Bean was brought in, I'm pretty sure by Sean McDermott. They've had fairly poor drafts for a

— [161:38.080 --> 161:46.460] while. They've had some good drafts too, but they've missed on some picks. Wide receiver being an important 1. And I think that The buck

— [161:46.460 --> 161:55.040] is just getting passed around. So no 1 takes the blame gets gets axed What people are pointing out? After that interview specifically was

— [161:55.040 --> 162:03.180] that The wire receivers drafted before keon Coleman didn't absolutely go crazy

— [162:03.180 --> 162:11.760] last year. When you talk about Brian Thomas Jr. When you talk about Xavier Worthy. When you talk about Marvin Harrison. Who

— [162:11.760 --> 162:19.780] else was in that dress? He bawled out a little bit last year. He bawled out a little bit until he got hurt. Lad McConkey, who had a better year. And I think he was even drafted afterward. He picked up

— [162:19.780 --> 162:28.500] at the end. Yeah, yeah. But He had a different OC last year and they misused him I think but anyway, I think that 1

— [162:28.620 --> 162:36.760] can't Coleman is 22 years old and he's still under contract for like 3 more years this is a fucked up thing for the owner to come out and say and in football bro 1 person don't make the team

— [162:36.760 --> 162:44.760] at all like 1 person don't make the team it's not the only receiver on the team fucking homeboy was fumbling and throwing picks and all

— [162:44.760 --> 162:52.920] of that shit like you can't do that you know like I think is I think it's in poor taste if if that's what they were trying to do Make this young god be the escape goat for

— [162:52.920 --> 163:01.220] them not winning No, I think that they were trying to just pass the buck We fired Sean McDermott because he made poor draft decisions that wasn't the GM who has survived this firing

— [163:01.240 --> 163:09.480] cycle and we still believe in him, but that was worded absolutely horrible. Yeah, I ain't with that.

— [163:09.480 --> 163:17.760] We haven't, see this is the problem, these organizations that, Buffalo has been pretty clean for a long time. They were shitty for a long time, but under the Sean McDermott era It was clean,

— [163:17.760 --> 163:25.940] they forward faced well. This is a bad step. Y'all traded Steph. Yeah. Y'all had a number 1 receiver. If that was your issue, y'all

— [163:25.940 --> 163:34.080] had a 1. Yeah. Decisions are made on a yearly basis, bro, that affect your team. For sure. That's it. You gotta

— [163:34.080 --> 163:42.100] live with them. I wanna hit the round of applause, making a hard pivot, hard pivot, hard pivot. Okay, okay. I wanna hit the round

— [163:42.180 --> 163:50.280] of applause for a lady that has been extremely important in the eyes of America for the better part of 40 years. Keep that

— [163:50.280 --> 163:58.400] applause going. I want to hear the round of applause for someone who has been nothing but a beacon of excellence.

— [164:00.480 --> 164:08.640] Someone who has set the standard and been a clear example to

— [164:08.640 --> 164:17.440] those coming up behind her and young women looking up to her for the last 40 years. You guessed it. 40 years. Vanna White. Vanna

— [164:17.440 --> 164:25.440] White has married her long time partner. She was engaged for 14 years. How many?

— [164:25.840 --> 164:34.000] 14 years. You don't wanna rush things. Yeah. You gotta be short. You gotta take your time, man. You gotta get to know her. Yeah, Yeah, that's important. Yeah, you don't want to rush into anything.

— [164:34.100 --> 164:42.540] So I want to shout Vanna White out for doing this thing the right way, not conforming to societal standards and their beliefs, doing

— [164:42.540 --> 164:50.860] what feels good in your heart, finding the 1 you love, taking your time, making sure that bond is built as securely as possible, and then stepping

— [164:50.860 --> 164:58.880] in the name of love, man. A lot of people don't do it that way, so I want to hit the ground and applaud 1 more time for Vanna White and anyone else out there who is down

— [164:58.900 --> 165:06.900] for the 14-year engagement. Shout-outs to her. She didn't put no pressure on him. She ain't rush him Yeah, she let him be in or shout to him for not

— [165:06.900 --> 165:14.920] putting pressure on her. No. Yeah You're in there. I'm with you. I'm your engagement. Please get out. Hey, we didn't hear a bunch of subs She didn't

— [165:14.920 --> 165:23.140] hit the insta story she was working hard to so she probably wanted to wait till after she retired let us be mad heavy yeah no

— [165:23.140 --> 165:31.560] for real and we found somebody that she could build a business empire together yeah I want to know what this fucking sucker does for a living but

— [165:31.560 --> 165:39.640] loves her I'll look it up that's it I'll look up with this don't play it because he's working and backing them letters. I think you got him fucked up. Yeah, that nigga fuck

— [165:39.640 --> 165:47.700] around to be a Texas oil magnet. I almost would assume he would be. Oh yeah. Vanna White ain't just growing. He's been with Vanna

— [165:47.700 --> 165:55.760] for 20 something. Vanna's 60. They been together for how many years? He's a real estate developer and construction executive Don't play with it.

— [165:55.760 --> 166:08.600] Don't play with it. Don't play with it Now what you got to say What you got to say now Y'all

— [166:08.600 --> 166:16.600] not gonna talk me into it That might have been her doing. Y'all not going to talk me into it. That might have been her doing. What if he said, yo, I'm ready. I'm ready. And she like, yo, chill, David. Not to mention, y'all

— [166:16.600 --> 166:24.640] wouldn't be engaged for all them years. Who, I'm opening up. Shit, I'm gonna go to that silence again. You're gonna go to that

— [166:24.640 --> 166:32.960] silence right there. Your wedding is gonna be in the back of that big pretty house that you're building. Yeah, exactly. No,

— [166:33.100 --> 166:41.200] it's old. The house will definitely be built in 7 years. I'm just getting ready to say. 7 to 14. Yeah, the house will be built, it takes 7 to 14. It's gonna take them many years to build it.

— [166:41.200 --> 166:49.320] I mean, it's a beautiful house. He's getting really good lumber. The permits, the permits. A lot of cabinets in the kitchen. I want a Persian oak. Don't forget about the Persian oak.

— [166:50.800 --> 166:59.280] Some people like the long engagement and they just rock with it. Some people don't want to be married but why are we engaged then? I'm thinking about a homeboy. What is her name? She's from, she

— [166:59.280 --> 167:08.440] lives in LA. Dude is on Black Ink Crew Ryan. I don't watch Black Ink. Yeah, it's all you bruh. She's an actress. Who?

— [167:08.700 --> 167:16.960] Anyway, they've been engaged, they got kids, they've been engaged for like 10, 20 years, they're super happy and everybody's always saying when y'all gonna get married. And she's like, I'm cool. I'm good

— [167:17.020 --> 167:25.100] with it. Shout out to her. A real 1. A real 1. Don't know I'm Russian or nothing with nobody. Make sure you know him. Yeah, 14 years

— [167:25.100 --> 167:33.180] you should pretty much know. No, no, no. You gotta live with him for at least 20 to really know him. That's true. Let's see, all right. So Dana,

— [167:33.420 --> 167:41.780] Dana Vanawite is married now. Let's see, also, also, Mom Donnie cut all the hotel fees.

— [167:41.820 --> 167:49.820] And that's in New York, in New York business that people not in New York might not care about. Mom Donnie cut all of the bullshit fees attached to when you're

— [167:49.820 --> 167:57.900] booking a hotel, the destination fees, the resort fees, the surcharges, all of this shit that is vague

— [167:57.900 --> 168:06.160] and misleading. He cut it Not only for hotels in New York, but for New Yorkers booking a hotel outside. Oh, wow. Oh, shit. Wow.

— [168:07.660 --> 168:15.800] Yeah. Yeah, let me hit the round of applause. Y'all look sharp. Oh, shit. So you said he had it. So even if like you live in New York and you go into Atlanta, you don't gotta pay to save the Wells fee and all

— [168:15.800 --> 168:24.420] that other shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He cut all that out. Do it on Rent-A-Car. He cut all that out. I rented a car yesterday. Them niggas be having facilities fee, oil transmit fee.

— [168:24.600 --> 168:32.620] You're like, yo, my nigga, what are you talking about? Do that shit on concert tickets. That shit is crazy. That's next. That's what we need to happen next. Stinking bastards. Just wanted

— [168:32.620 --> 168:41.040] to shout him out. He seems to be attempting to do the things that he said he was doing. Shout out to him. Nah, that's what's up. Go him. What else is important?

— [168:41.040 --> 168:49.160] What else is important? Nathan's and Coney Island. Let me hit the round of applause. You know the infamous, the famous. Lizzy business. The world- Good world. The world-famous

— [168:49.780 --> 168:59.760] Nathan's. Yeah, I'm into this type of shit. Sold for $450 million. Sheesh. I repeat. Yeah, now it's not a joke no more. $400

— [168:59.760 --> 169:11.280] million, damn who the fuck is that? They in the grocery store too, they sell products. $450 million, Nathan's

— [169:11.280 --> 169:19.380] which opened as a 5 cent hot dog stand in Coling Island Brooklyn more than a century ago has been sold to packaged meat giant

— [169:20.240 --> 169:28.520] Smithfield foods and in all cash $450 million deal the company's announced on Wednesday Smithfield which has held rights to produce

— [169:28.520 --> 169:36.980] and sell Nathan's products in the US and Canada and at Sam's Club in Mexico since 2014, will acquire all of Nathan's outstanding shares

— [169:37.240 --> 169:45.260] for $102 each. Congrats. Congrats. Hot dog. Busy business. God damn hot dogs. I'm in the round of

— [169:45.260 --> 169:53.320] applause again, that's big. You started selling hot dogs for 5 cents and 100 years later you have 450 million for your bum ass great grandkids I was

— [169:53.320 --> 170:01.500] about to say, Grace, Grace LaPierre you're next. I was about to say see and I'm waiting around like Jeannie I'd have sold

— [170:01.500 --> 170:09.720] that shit 50 years ago for 400. What else, what else, what else, what else, what else? In news opposite of that, Sebastian

— [170:09.880 --> 170:19.900] Telpher says the $20 million that he made in his career was not a lot of money when you really break it down. He went on the pivot show and

— [170:19.960 --> 170:28.020] said... I feel like we hear this story a lot from professional athletes. Yeah, I get it. I get it. I keep hearing it. And then when you hear all of them... Piper Watcher on the

— [170:28.020 --> 170:36.160] show. I know you've seen at least 20. I don't know the big picture really what you've seen but you've seen 20 grown men. Like

— [170:36.260 --> 170:44.440] don't just say bad investments like how did you run through 20? I never saw 20. And just thinking about it like my thing when I see

— [170:44.440 --> 170:52.660] dudes and I'm talking to them I'm like bro if you got 10, then you got 8, then you got 6, then you got 4, then you

— [170:52.660 --> 171:00.880] got 800, 000. Like, you can see that money leaving. Like, at 1 point, then you were trying to jump. Like, something's going wrong with

— [171:00.880 --> 171:08.940] this financial plan. That's a good question. And no excuse, no excuse. So I played 10 years. You said I made 20. We all know about

— [171:08.940 --> 171:17.160] Uncle Sam. Right? What's that, 10? That's 10 already. So that's about 1000000 a year. That ain't no money. That's

— [171:17.160 --> 171:25.260] the real truth. The real truth is I ain't really make no money. I hate that he does that, but I know he feels like it. They called me the pocket watcher on the show. Sorry. I really ain't

— [171:25.260 --> 171:33.580] make no money. So people were like, oh, I understand how you look so crazy from, you know. I'm like, I ain't make Floyd Mayweather enough

— [171:33.580 --> 171:42.600] money. I didn't make the type of money where it's like, I'ma go crazy because I don't have it today. That's

— [171:42.600 --> 171:51.060] the real truth. If you do the math, that's a $1 million a year. Parks is right, I do feel like this conversation comes up

— [171:52.020 --> 172:00.080] every 4 to 6 months. Now, it frustrates me in a couple ways. The conversation frustrates me in a couple

— [172:00.080 --> 172:08.240] ways. I get the point that he's making, right? If you don't make money or don't have access to that money or that world where

— [172:08.420 --> 172:16.460] everything costs more and you have expenses that people don't imagine, you got people you gotta take care of, you got all this shit that goes, you got agents, you got all, I mean, There's a lot of things you

— [172:16.460 --> 172:24.520] got to do. I get how people underestimate how fast that money can go away. It's easy to run through 1000000 dollars a year. I get that. But

— [172:24.520 --> 172:32.680] I don't want us to believe, or I don't want to communicate to people that that means that this was unavoidable. 1000000 dollars a year after taxes

— [172:32.680 --> 172:40.760] is a lot of fucking money. You could buy a house. You could make a conservative investment that would ensure that you have an

— [172:40.760 --> 172:51.100] annual income forever. Yeah, like you could, That's less conservative than I would go, but sure. And

— [172:51.100 --> 172:59.280] so it's a mix of, yeah, it ain't that much money, but it's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. And financial responsibility is

— [172:59.280 --> 173:07.340] the part that I want. The conversation I want to hear is about here's what I could have done differently so that when these young people watch, these young athletes watch it, they don't make the same

— [173:07.340 --> 173:15.700] mistakes because you're going to make mistakes, but we should make new mistakes. And I find that we're making the same mistakes when it comes to money. And even outside of athletes, just anybody who's making money

— [173:15.720 --> 173:23.880] really at any level, but particularly of any higher tax bracket level like I think you're I think you're absolutely right like Let's talk about how

— [173:23.880 --> 173:32.260] do you spend it properly? Yeah, that's all I'm saying I do understand this because there's a lot of expenses that we don't think about like trainers and nutrition and travel

— [173:32.260 --> 173:40.420] and all types of shit that comes with it. It's not 1000000 dollars a year. Neither like you got, agent fees, you got this, you got

— [173:40.420 --> 173:50.080] that, you got to pay NBA dues, like all of that stuff you got to pay that it, He just was on some real round

— [173:50.080 --> 173:58.620] numbership. It's less than 1000000 dollars if you average it out with their net take home pay is. But Mark's point is right, financial

— [173:58.620 --> 174:07.020] literacy should be the message that you're, but he just answered the question that they asked. Right. You get what I'm saying? Not just that, you gotta. Did he? No

— [174:07.020 --> 174:15.040] he didn't. See that's my point is that he. Yes he did. To me, to me he's, if I, if I don't know a lot about this and I'm a fan watching this, what I hear him say is I ran through the money because. It's not

— [174:15.040 --> 174:23.680] a lot of money. Yeah, it's not a lot of money not to run through. He did answer the question. I, like Mark, would have liked to hear him come

— [174:23.680 --> 174:32.080] to a different epiphany. I think, I think, I think 2 things could be true. I made 1000000, 1000000 dollars isn't a lot of money. It's not really answering

— [174:32.080 --> 174:40.160] the question. But this is where I went wrong. Like he goes on to say, I was taking care of 40 and 50 and 60 people. That's the answer. Yeah, but

— [174:40.160 --> 174:51.040] we only played a clip, but keep going. I mean, I could play the rest of it. No, no, no, no, no, I'm just saying like, and what these to be brought

— [174:51.040 --> 174:59.220] into this picture is when you come from these communities, bro, you are so far behind to even

— [174:59.220 --> 175:08.860] get to a level of relaxation, you might've spent 3 or 4000000 just to get to where you peacefully could sleep at night. What

— [175:08.860 --> 175:18.380] you mean? I don't love that. Give me an example. I'll give you 1. I don't know how many siblings he has. Got

— [175:18.380 --> 175:26.640] 13, 14 brothers and sisters. Cool. So you sign a deal, your first deal might be 4000005 million dollars. Right?

— [175:27.980 --> 175:36.100] You are now by default, the foundation for your entire family, which us as men, we welcome

— [175:36.100 --> 175:44.240] that. Like if you could give your little sister's college tuition, you came in and talked about how your father said he's so happy that you was able to send your kid, I

— [175:44.240 --> 175:52.260] mean your sisters to the Montessori program. As a man, that shit feels good. As a man, you take on those responsibilities. I don't want us to just say, yo,

— [175:52.260 --> 176:00.400] we can make this money and cut everybody off in our family because that's not the definition of manhood. But you started with, if you're able. Yeah, so You don't

— [176:00.400 --> 176:08.560] think if you're in his position that your career is not gonna blossom because life has shown you different. So you think, yo, my next bag

— [176:08.560 --> 176:16.580] gonna be 40. My next bag gonna be this. Ish, everything you're saying is exactly what I

— [176:16.580 --> 176:24.980] would have loved to hear from him. I would have loved to have heard him say, yo, at this point in my career, I thought I had all the tomorrow's in the world. I

— [176:24.980 --> 176:33.010] didn't plan properly, I didn't do this properly. When I hear niggas go through all this money talk, listen, what I think is this, I think, cause I ain't gonna tell nobody what to think. There's a

— [176:33.010 --> 176:41.360] lot of money in some people, it's not a lot of money in some people. If you think it ain't no money, I don't think you should say it out loud. That's the part of it. Not today, not right now.

— [176:41.820 --> 176:49.900] Not with what's going on out there. He's saying based on his live experiences, again, maybe that was 800, 000 a year for him. But again, let me

— [176:49.900 --> 176:57.960] finish. Yo dog, you're not gonna have your mother living in Coney Island projects. You're not. I don't give a fuck what nobody says. I'm with you on that, but you don't have to buy a $50, 000 chain. They don't have to go from

— [176:57.960 --> 177:06.020] 1 extreme to the next. We not going from 1 extreme to the next. He lives in Brooklyn. If you go by your mother a moderate house in New York, you spending your yearly salary on that

— [177:06.020 --> 177:14.120] house. Right, but when I said 1 of those dreams the next time, I meant you speaking to her. But for me, it's the $50, 000 change in the car. It's change, it's cars, and you talking about a 21-year-old black

— [177:14.120 --> 177:22.480] kid from the inner city, that is what all of it, everybody in here got changed and watches and shit like that. And we don't make 1000000 dollars a year.

— [177:22.560 --> 177:30.600] But that's the response, that's my point, right? That's the conversation. I'm not being unfair to him, I'm saying at 40, I just want him to reflect on that out

— [177:30.600 --> 177:38.640] loud. That's all I'm saying. Like, cause the problem is if you say, well, I ran through all the money because it wasn't that much money, then a person, every athlete looking up is going to say, well, if you're

— [177:38.640 --> 177:46.640] supposed to run through that, like that's like, that's the natural outcome. And for me, it's not. And it's a slap in the face when you say that's not a lot

— [177:46.640 --> 177:54.680] of money. So people have never heard or have never and maybe will never see 1000000 dollars at least 1 time that's a

— [177:54.680 --> 178:02.820] lot of money. That is a slap in the face and especially in this economy. I know people my man from he's he's a street pharmacist

— [178:04.360 --> 178:12.380] won some money around that figure and he's same thing not a lot of money and I you know We kind of understood each other over that a little bit because

— [178:12.380 --> 178:20.380] it's not really a lot of money his levels to ship, bro However, it's all it changed his life me and Joe had an argument and my way he had this money to just to be

— [178:20.380 --> 178:28.620] clear so it wasn't just 19 was just the NBA salary. So he actually ran through even more. And also, I understand if his career

— [178:28.620 --> 178:36.780] was 2 or 3 years long, he had, he said 10 years. Yeah. Like I understand blowing those first couple of checks, those first couple of years, but. Yo, he has kids, he was married. By

— [178:36.780 --> 178:44.920] year 8, he should. Bro, but he had kids, he was married. It's a lot of expenses that come along with that. I agree that the financial literacy

— [178:44.920 --> 178:53.000] piece needs to be expressed to the young people that are coming up so they can learn from the mistakes that you made. I agree with that but we also are talking about

— [178:53.000 --> 179:01.020] a 21-22... He might have been 19 when he went to the league. Probably, yeah. I'm not cascading him for losing the money. When he got

— [179:01.020 --> 179:09.080] to the league he might have been 19. We're talking about 10 years of it and I feel like it's about where you come from. So if you grow up and everybody got money, you know what I mean?

— [179:09.080 --> 179:17.160] Or you grow up and your friends' people had a lot of money, and if your friends' family had a lot of money, but if he's from the inner city, like y'all say, I feel like at a certain point

— [179:17.160 --> 179:25.160] if it's not that much money then why aren't you figuring out how to flip it so it is more money you know what I mean I feel like flipping money takes financial literacy that we are saying that none of us

— [179:25.160 --> 179:33.360] really have your family didn't give you an opportunity or your family didn't pass down nothing you learning on the fly as a 20- I think she was- But not 10 years.

— [179:33.360 --> 179:41.500] But not 10 years. I was 29, it's young. That's a crutch though. That's a crutch. It is a crutch. When people from our neighborhoods run into the

— [179:41.980 --> 179:50.400] athlete entertainer money, 1 of the first things that I think you should do and a lot of people do do is they go get a business account.

— [179:50.740 --> 179:59.280] Now that business account robs you then that's a whole different story. But most people because you're asking people when you say we're not financially literate,

— [179:59.620 --> 180:07.820] it might not be enough time and the rest of some of these people's lives to get the information that they lack. But you can go with that coin and hire somebody that

— [180:07.820 --> 180:15.860] is going to protect you and your money. You can. And when people talk about going broke, I never hear, I never hear, yo, My

— [180:15.860 --> 180:24.300] accountant told me not to. Yo, I was going to buy these chains. I was going to take care of my 30, 40 siblings. My accountant expressed against this

— [180:24.580 --> 180:32.680] vehemently. I never hear that part of it. And we talk about this 20 million and 10 million and all these large numbers, but it's niggas.

— [180:32.680 --> 180:40.840] I know at a much lower scale that could benefit from having an account, but niggas don't be 1 to share that money niggas don't be 1

— [180:40.840 --> 180:48.840] to go in a pocket and pay somebody else for something that they feel like is not a problem. It's not Detrimental or something they can't handle themselves and it's a crock of shit. Yes, it's a crock of

— [180:48.840 --> 180:57.180] shit You're a get a fucking accountant your accounts also and what you pay that accountant is relative to what the fuck you make I was just about to say real quick

— [180:57.820 --> 181:06.280] Accountants don't be that expensive because it could be It could be scary to someone. That's 1 of the big, that's 1 of the things that's scary out there is you hear accountant, pardon

— [181:06.280 --> 181:14.400] me, and be like, oh, I don't have that, or I'm not gonna do that. It don't have to be that expensive, again, it's relative

— [181:14.660 --> 181:22.660] to what you make. If you make 70 grand a year, if you make 50 grand a year, I'm just throwing numbers at a wall, how much do you think the accountant

— [181:22.660 --> 181:31.000] is going to charge you a year to run your shit? And you probably get that money back in what you save long term. And not to mention you're going to lose everybody. A good accountant is going to make you some money. Bro, accountants

— [181:31.000 --> 181:39.000] and financial advisors is different. That's 1. And then number 2, we hear enough stories about niggas in the NBA and niggas in

— [181:39.000 --> 181:47.300] professional sports that get by the accountants. The same, so there's already A stigma and a

— [181:47.300 --> 181:58.040] sour taste in people's mouths when it comes to that. But again, I don't know, we go in circles, but yo, as a young black man from

— [181:58.040 --> 182:06.140] the inner city, bro, we could tell everybody what they can't do. He played 10 years. He got out the league at 28, 29. At 28, 29, I

— [182:06.140 --> 182:14.200] wasn't, and I had more financial information than most, I wasn't financially smart or sound or any of that in my 20s.

— [182:14.200 --> 182:22.560] I think that's an unfair thing to say to this man that, yo, he should have known better. But I don't think anybody's saying that. I think our conversation isn't about the

— [182:22.560 --> 182:30.560] shoulders for him back then, it's the shoulders now in terms of how he's talking about it. And how he's talking about it, I want the best for him, but I'm really just saying, you have perspective now. You know

— [182:30.560 --> 182:38.740] what I mean? Let's give it. Yeah, exactly. Cause that's what generation is. But if his mood is, if his vibe is still, it wasn't, it wasn't

— [182:38.740 --> 182:46.740] a lot of money. You know where his head is. You're saying still, see, that's the part that gave me, I wonder if at that age he thought that wasn't a lot of money when he was getting it. I don't think that's

— [182:46.740 --> 182:55.220] possible. 1000000000 dollars a year is a lot different. But I'm saying looking back now when your cousin is Stefan Marbury, not when you're surrounded

— [182:55.360 --> 183:03.380] by certain niggas. We look, if somebody came up to him today and dropped 1000000 dollars in his lap, I think, I think he would think it's a lot of money. 1000 percent. Yeah.

— [183:03.380 --> 183:11.420] 1000 percent. Cause now he has experiences and education, right? That he didn't have. And I wonder what he would do with

— [183:11.420 --> 183:19.500] it And I feel like time y'all it doesn't matter this 10 years of fucking it up. That doesn't matter I get no point That's

— [183:19.500 --> 183:27.540] what I was trying to say. Like the first couple years, I get it. No, the 10 years is flying by, bro. That makes sense to me, but if 10 years you're still not kept. Because if we talk about 10 years midway, we ain't

— [183:27.540 --> 183:35.700] really got a savings. We don't have no investments. We at a point, halfway in 10 years, we still at a point that if these knees don't work ain't no more money coming in and we fuck cuz

— [183:35.700 --> 183:46.020] we're not saving And we're not flipping 9 like yes I expect you to kind of wake the fuck up financial industry or not I think expect you to like bounce with it like No,

— [183:46.080 --> 183:54.500] you get into a hole and you can't get out of it. You've created debt, you've created responsibilities for other people and that. You're gonna tell your wife you gotta go from a G-Wagon to a Honda? Right.

— [183:54.640 --> 184:02.740] That's a hard conversation. It's a hard 1. You're gonna take your kids out of private school and send them to public school? Because guess what? You're gonna downsize in your house, It's a lot to ask. Because

— [184:02.740 --> 184:11.080] the other side of that is not telling the bitch nothing and the sheriff come to get you out the house. Yeah, but- So what the fuck? I'm going to tell you bitch, you get in the Honda Odyssey or

— [184:11.080 --> 184:19.160] the sheriff's about to get you out this motherfucking king size. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. Like I get everything you saying and I understand but I just

— [184:19.160 --> 184:27.200] feel like The way his attitude is why he's talking now combined with the fact that you it was such a long fuck up Like I just I don't know and I do think

— [184:27.200 --> 184:35.340] like Joe said it turns into like a crutch a little bit or turns away Well, I didn't know Motherfuckers are so honest about being fucked over, and so many people are in

— [184:35.340 --> 184:43.380] control of what they got going on because they've been fucked over, because we share that information with each other, and it's like, nigga, come on, bro. And I don't know shit after a

— [184:43.380 --> 184:51.580] certain 1. It's like I tell my kid, hey, where's your code at? I don't know. Well, who's job is it to know? Who the fuck is supposed to know but you? Like once you

— [184:51.580 --> 184:59.760] get all the money, who's job is it to know what to do with this stuff but yours? Yeah, we got that same expertise we

— [184:59.760 --> 185:07.960] develop on our cars, on our jewelry, on houses, music, all that shit that we can become experts on through Google and YouTube. And we become scientists

— [185:07.960 --> 185:16.080] about some shit, about our we. Like we could figure that shit out at some point. Again, I'm not criticizing poor people for making bad financial decisions. The system is designed to make

— [185:16.080 --> 185:24.200] sure that you stay ignorant. I'm just saying we can do something about it collectively. That's our job, right? As old heads to let these young people, where you left?

— [185:24.200 --> 185:32.300] I'm saying it's our job as old people, old heads, excuse me, to intervene. I'm saying now as an old head, I just want them to speak back, for the company

— [185:32.300 --> 185:40.500] excluded, to lean back into these young folk and say something to them. I have a question then, because all of y'all, none of y'all are the only child, right, just me?

— [185:40.980 --> 185:49.080] As a motherfucker with no siblings, I mean my father had a couple of children, fuck them, who cares? As a motherfucker that grew up alone. Wait, fuck dad because he did his numbers?

— [185:49.460 --> 185:57.460] No, fuck them children he made in regards to me talking about me growing up. I'm joking. I have siblings, but they're much younger than me. So like you said earlier, we're talking a

— [185:57.460 --> 186:05.560] little bit off-camera. My little sister's more like my daughter because we're so far apart. But I'm saying to y'all, at what point do that sibling shit,

— [186:05.860 --> 186:13.900] it's like, whoa, cause if you got 14 motherfucking siblings, you supposed to buy all 14 houses, or is it your brother that you slept in the bunk bed with?

— [186:13.900 --> 186:22.000] Cause if we were real far apart, And I had already moved out when you motherfuckers was growing up. I don't even know y'all like that. Hey, some of them niggas might have all grew up in that house together though.

— [186:22.000 --> 186:30.060] That's why I'm asking y'all, y'all got siblings. Do y'all owe every fucking sibling you have the same fucking take care? No, you might go buy 1 big house for your

— [186:30.060 --> 186:38.180] mother and your family. That was a strong word. You might you might go buy 1 big house for your mother and your family. You might go 1 big, buy 1 big house for your mother and your family. But not all responsible. Who are you

— [186:38.180 --> 186:46.280] responsible? If y'all are from the dirt field to Kentucky, y'all grew up in, because everybody's story just seems so fucked up and we the worst. We had to walk

— [186:46.280 --> 186:54.680] 5 miles to the mailbox, barefoot in the rain. 1 10 bedroom in a decent neighborhood, all y'all move in till we can afford better. Again, the athlete

— [186:54.680 --> 187:03.000] problem and the problem, just to close this up, is again, everybody assumes that tomorrow is gonna be better than yesterday. Thousands. Yeah. And it's not always true.

— [187:03.080 --> 187:11.340] Don't close it out on some vague shit. I like where Mona was going. I'm sorry. I wanna ask y'all, that was a good 1. No, that was a great question. When do y'all,

— [187:12.120 --> 187:20.480] cause You got siblings. You got siblings. I do. I got siblings. When do y'all show up

— [187:20.480 --> 187:28.620] and be Captain America for your siblings? Like you know what I'm trying to say? Most people. Like my brothers know when shit get real, if

— [187:28.620 --> 187:36.660] there's like an emergency, you can break the glass. You different though, bro. You different. You are different in that. Why y'all? Cause he rich? No, cause he don't give a

— [187:36.660 --> 187:44.740] fuck. Oh, he changed. Get it, how you get it? No, that's him. He's always been that way. A lot of people take care of their families, bro. A lot of people. And

— [187:44.740 --> 187:52.840] again, I don't want this to fall off of, this is what we are telling men to do today We're telling men to be the providers and the protectors of their families and when

— [187:52.840 --> 188:01.200] we do it Fall of I'm not disagreeing most times but yo dog you are taking you doing what you should do for your family

— [188:01.240 --> 188:09.440] Bro, you see a family week. I'm really curious about what y'all think about your siblings, your brother and sister, because I don't have any, it's a real question. I'm with you, and I get what he's saying.

— [188:09.520 --> 188:18.000] It's just like, once we all grown and... I'm between Ashen Joe. I'm going to go back to my bonus point. But I'm not obligated.

— [188:18.140 --> 188:26.140] Everyone's got this massive sob story. And sometimes it's very, very true. But sometimes your sister might have a good job and is doing pretty good. You don't have to support

— [188:26.140 --> 188:34.260] their lifestyle. True. That's true. Yeah, that part. Everybody doesn't need the fucking, and even some people that need you to be the

— [188:35.100 --> 188:43.220] Superman, you maybe shouldn't be Superman for. I'm not disagreeing. And it's how often they need, like you gotta show up. That's why that matters, bro. My brother has a

— [188:43.220 --> 188:51.400] really, really, really, really, really good job. Both my brothers got good jobs. My older brother got a really, really, really good job. I thank God every day for that too. I am

— [188:51.400 --> 188:59.540] so happy that he is doing, I'm serious. I'm serious. He's such a dick. I'm serious. I thank God that,

— [188:59.540 --> 189:07.540] I mean, my mom, that hell gotta call my phone. Or my mom's phone for none of that shit. Like my mom could chill

— [189:07.540 --> 189:15.920] knowing that both her kids are doing great and if something go wrong, I mean then we'll talk. Of course. But I didn't tell you to make them improvements

— [189:15.920 --> 189:24.160] on your house. See, it was the other side. So look. So look. Nah, for real, he went and made some improvements. See, trying to be grown with some money. And they got 2 cars.

— [189:24.500 --> 189:32.560] 2 nice cars. No, he went and tried to make some house improvements. Like, he made some. Did he call us? That nigga, that nigga's doing it. Wow. That nigga's doing it. Now on the other

— [189:32.560 --> 189:40.600] side. Now they raised the taxes. Who knows that? Me. You find out. Who knows that if you make an improvement. They doubled mine. Nah, they

— [189:40.600 --> 189:48.740] killed my brother. They doubled mine, you ain't hear me? Double. What room you made though? I put a second floor in my house.

— [189:48.740 --> 189:56.740] Oh yeah. Yo, when we gonna have that episode talking about the improvements that niggas be trying to make

— [189:56.740 --> 190:04.780] on their house and what it actually does to your tax bill. Yeah. A second floor? My brother told me about some outside door,

— [190:04.780 --> 190:13.100] outside deck nigga. They decked you, all right? If you don't pay them people they money. But no, Mark is

— [190:13.100 --> 190:21.180] a prime example, and I don't know disrespect. Mark made some improvements. 1 of Mark's brothers. Oh yeah, my tax is double, man, with that fucking backyard. 1 of Mark's brothers is a lawyer, and they tax

— [190:21.180 --> 190:29.840] as high as giraffe pussy up there. But 1 of Mark's brothers is a prominent attorney. 1 of Mark's brothers is not so prominent financially.

— [190:30.300 --> 190:38.300] So now, if Mark became a $20 million man, which he... On his way to a far run. He was well on his way. He close. He close. You know

— [190:38.300 --> 190:46.740] what I mean? He on his way. Continue the story. Yo, you don't feel like you... I don't want to say obligated or oh, but you don't feel like it would be responsible

— [190:47.120 --> 190:55.120] to make sure your other brother. I mean, that's what I've always done. And that's what I've always done. But you can't ask Mark that, because he's a

— [190:55.120 --> 191:03.480] sucker. No, no, no. Mark is still paying the lady that gets his texts from his old man. Yes, Mark, you can't ask Mark. That lady puts money in Mark's

— [191:03.740 --> 191:11.880] pocket. No, Mark is a sucker MC. That might be true. Mark is sweet. Mark is sweet. No, Mark is big stream. Mark is sweet. No, but in the middle,

— [191:11.880 --> 191:20.080] I'm someone in the middle as I get older about it because now I'm also like, I'm not going to throw good money after bad. I have to draw a line when people are adults. You know what I mean? So for my brother,

— [191:21.020 --> 191:29.060] my, I have another brother too, who's doing fine. My sister passed and she was doing fine. So he's kind of been the 1 we were worried about. I remember right before my dad died, 1 of the things he said to me was,

— [191:29.060 --> 191:37.360] I'm so glad he works with you at the time he was working at my bookstore, because I was always worried about how things would turn out. So I feel a certain kind of obligation to make sure that

— [191:37.360 --> 191:45.440] he's okay. But he fumbled that a couple of times. So now, and he's obviously incarcerated right now. So My goal

— [191:45.440 --> 191:53.620] is now to make sure his kid is okay, to make sure that there's something in place long-term. That's my goal. I can't take care of him at 49 years old. Gotcha. I

— [191:53.620 --> 192:02.660] gotta make sure. That kid costs. Yeah. Bro. Yeah, and I do feel a certain kind of duty to that, But in general, because

— [192:02.660 --> 192:10.680] that's an extreme case, I do feel like when you hit a certain age, it's more like break the glass in case of emergency. True. If I got $20 million and you got a regular job, and I don't

— [192:10.680 --> 192:18.740] mean just a good middle class job, I don't feel like I have to buy you a house or a car or anything like that. At all. At 20 million. That's what I was

— [192:18.740 --> 192:26.760] trying to say. At 200. At 200, I would do it. I sort of feel like I have to. I would feel compelled. I would feel like I had to, but I wouldn't write

— [192:26.760 --> 192:34.860] that as a rule. True. That's all I'm saying. I don't think it's the same as if your kid, if your people's in a homeless shelter. Yo dog, every, or if they, no I don't care if you playing music,

— [192:34.860 --> 192:42.900] I've been trying to get this in, I'ma say it anyway. You can turn down a little bit please. I was trying to say that. Kitty got claws. Wow. I

— [192:42.900 --> 192:50.980] don't care nigga, I don't care. Kitty got claws, I hate y'all. Spicy ass. Kitty got claws is crazy, go ahead. That was nuts, that was nuts, that was nuts. I'ma shoot

— [192:50.980 --> 192:59.520] back at him on Pekio. I'ma get him. But no, or you put him in position to try to help him out. Like my younger brother, he, no

— [192:59.520 --> 193:07.580] kids, wasn't in college, didn't know what the fuck he was doing. I put him in trade school Boom graduates now he owns his own business and now he don't

— [193:07.580 --> 193:18.780] have to call on you as much You know now we own some of that business executive producer, right? Hey give

— [193:18.780 --> 193:26.880] them that shot. That's what I'm, that's why I told my brother. I made him an idiot. Because he might couldn't put his brother in trade school. I made him the manager of my bookstore. Right, is that why you need the more? Or your brother gonna steal

— [193:26.880 --> 193:34.920] all the tools from you. But then after a certain amount of times, it's like yo, all right now I gotta, what can I do? Yeah, what can you do? You look out for the kids, like you said.

— [193:34.920 --> 193:43.000] That's all you can do man. You do the best you can. You can't keep taking care of grown folks, though And I feel like we're in that case sibling or not when you do have it like that That's something a

— [193:43.000 --> 193:51.160] motherfucker can't turn down cuz when your brother comes like yo, but I did do this for your son it's like he can't say nothing to that yeah that's something that he lacks

— [193:51.160 --> 193:59.380] on thank God you doing that for me now I asked you for $20 I know you got hold my son down I respect that I feel like they respect it but I'm getting

— [193:59.380 --> 194:07.480] a lawyer to write up stuff so he can hand deliver to my family members and my friends that we're done. Like once the money touch. You cuttin' them, cuttin' them? Yes, I want a lawyer to walk to

— [194:07.480 --> 194:15.520] the door and say, hey, here's, like it depends. Like my father, You gonna break them off? He offered him $3, 500, yeah. What grandma gonna do? My mom, I might offer her $15, 000. But the

— [194:15.520 --> 194:23.680] offer is you sign the check for a permanent NDA. We don't know each other and we're not related. How much money you got? Well, like once I get here, I'm gonna get my

— [194:23.680 --> 194:32.061] mother 15, man. I would just give you an example that like it's levels of how much of a loser you are. So some people I might come, the lawyer might show with 850. You

— [194:32.160 --> 194:40.160] know what I mean? Some people the lawyer gonna call you because we gonna cash app you. Other people we gotta knock at the door with a check. You know what I mean? My grandma I'm gonna get a

— [194:40.160 --> 194:48.320] different knock. All right, no. Joking, I would never get my grandmother murdered. You just gonna wait her out. Yo,

— [194:48.320 --> 194:57.240] yo, yo, yo, you special be. My grandmother would do an interview with... My grandmother dirty, I'm telling y'all. My grandma do an interview about you tomorrow, nigga. Yep. I

— [194:57.240 --> 195:05.460] can be, oh, I can be. Show that, man. Oh, yo, you might sing if you put your heart into it. I can sing. I

— [195:05.460 --> 195:13.900] can sing. I can sing. I can sing. I can sing. This nigga think he the only 1 good on the mic. Pogs. Pogs. I like when we let him rock. I understand

— [195:13.900 --> 195:21.971] what you're saying. Okay, good. Tell your homegirl next Friday is the day, yo. It's time. Let's go, boy. It's time, next Friday. I might fry y'all some chicken.

— [195:21.971 --> 195:30.000] I might fry y'all some chicken. Stop with the chicken lies. Girl. So what? She said might though, so. Right. That also means might not. Y'all might get with your, I just

— [195:30.000 --> 195:38.160] love the idea of making all that food and this motherfucker can only eat a string bean. He ain't the only motherfucker up here. I like the fact that he can't eat any,

— [195:38.160 --> 195:46.160] so I have to do it by that ozzypicus running through his, you know. Yo, this 1? I think we did it. We did it. We definitely did it.

— [195:46.160 --> 196:08.380] Real good day, real good day, real good day good energy good vibes good people good folk super fat All

— [196:08.380 --> 196:16.720] right, so we're not saying it no more. Fuck that Reddit nigga. Oh, okay. Listen, man, hopefully you've enjoyed this broadcast as much as we enjoyed delivering it to you.

— [196:16.940 --> 196:25.020] Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there until the next time. We bid you adieu, farewell, adios, arriba, durche, hasta la, what the fuck

— [196:25.100 --> 196:33.180] is that? Hey. Hasta la vista, arriba, durche, arvois, so long, goodbye, no laugh. Remember life is a

— [196:33.180 --> 196:42.380] series of moments and moments past, so let's make this 1 last as if it's all we have. Until the next time, last

— [196:42.380 --> 196:50.800] but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women wanna travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things grab you a Tylenol you might hear This

— [196:50.800 --> 197:00.200] on my new gym playlist. Hey Poe wait till tomorrow nigga. We in the gym. Wait till you see my playlist. What the fuck is that? Yo,

— [197:00.200 --> 197:08.280] it's the weekend. I know it's a snowstorm. What's everybody doing this weekend? Mona, where are your shows at? I know you got something tonight, tonight as in Saturday night.

— [197:08.860 --> 197:17.040] No, we at the Stress Factory, King of Pressure, the 23rd. All right, Mark-ish Ice Parks. What y'all weekend

— [197:17.040 --> 197:25.440] look like? Studio, this is lock in time. Going to buy 20 bags of salt tomorrow. Oh yeah, you can get some of that too. I call a couple of homies like, yo.

— [197:25.440 --> 197:33.480] Niggas still trying to get free salt. You gonna go shovel? Niggas paper the salt. No, the hustler and me wanna go get a box truck. Oh, you busy? And go buy all the

— [197:33.480 --> 197:41.480] Home Depot's out. I'm off, I'll pop out, I got ACG boots, what's up? Yo, the hustlers be wanna go buy 15, 20

— [197:41.480 --> 197:49.700] worth of salt. Let's get it. Freeze, what you on this weekend, what you on this weekend? 35, man. My girl. Hey! Hey, baby. New

— [197:49.700 --> 197:57.700] baby coming. Not from here. Snipsies. Oh, I forgot, Snippy. Parks is working, Parks in the studio. Yeah, I'm locking it. I know what these guys

— [197:57.700 --> 198:15.359] are doing And they his ass that's it man y'all hold it down till next time keep us in your prayers or don't cocksucker beat it we don't care No,

— [198:15.359 --> 198:24.280] no, no, no, no, no, no. No Joe Bunny! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Enough of Daddy! JVP, JVP

— [198:24.860 --> 198:32.860] Why are we to be without the JVP?! Y-y-y-you've never heard of Joe Bun? No

— [198:32.860 --> 198:47.160] Joe Bun! You

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