The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 944

— [100:00.460 --> 100:08.040] Anyway, go Lil Nas X. You had no idea what you'd been missing out on. You probably been with him. What, they all right girls? Girls are cool.

— [100:09.540 --> 100:10.940] Let me look up what he

— [100:11.760 --> 100:13.140] said. Did he give a reason?

— [100:13.680 --> 100:26.260] Yeah, he said, he said, He said, I went and got him around the bitch. And you know what? It turns out. I would have turned that snapper guy to him. Yeah, what about Go Mal? I was here giving the devil a lap dance, and I could have been getting some pussies this whole time.

— [100:30.660 --> 100:39.000] Freaking ass shit that nigga was doing. You do the same thing, you get the same results. You gotta try something different. The boys had him on the highway, butt ass. The diaper, yeah. And

— [100:39.540 --> 100:40.840] his fucking booty drugs.

— [100:42.040 --> 100:47.860] Damn. That nigga was talking to the cop like that cop was. Y'all remember that? I do. Motherfucker.

— [100:51.240 --> 101:00.660] That nigga was trying to bang the cop like, yo, dog, you can't do this, man. Get you some pussy, man. He did. Pussy changed your life. Pussy will have you too doing that shit. I was about to say.

— [101:01.520 --> 101:06.360] That nigga's been in a lot of places for some pussy. Well you probably have pants on. You might have pants on. Maybe.

— [101:06.660 --> 101:09.160] Or? At least that, yeah. Maybe then.

— [101:09.500 --> 101:12.260] Lance Un Rivera's been in the news. Oh God.

— [101:12.960 --> 101:15.160] Yeah well fuck y'all. Lance's been in the

— [101:15.900 --> 101:18.640] news. I'm learning to ignore y'all. Lance's in the news because.

— [101:19.020 --> 101:22.440] Lance is in the news. Lance is in the news. It all comes back to Dane Dad.

— [101:23.260 --> 101:23.760] Shut

— [101:24.540 --> 101:30.560] the lance. It goes back to Hov 1st. He was responding. The big thing he was in the news for was his open letter to Hov regarding the

— [101:30.920 --> 101:33.400] bar in the Philly's picnic.

— [101:33.860 --> 101:38.460] That's fair. Roots picnic. And they asked him what he thought about it. Yeah. And it was a dope open letter. I liked it.

— [101:38.860 --> 101:45.120] The open letter, it felt like, it sounded like somebody, the whole, and I watched the whole interview, it sounded like somebody who was,

— [101:45.440 --> 102:00.560] who wanted to say something but was scared to say something? I didn't get that. No, I mean, I don't think he was wrong in what he was saying. I think he was 100% right. Okay. What I'm saying is he gave the letter, which is basically kissing Hov's ass for 3 minutes. Yeah. And then after he started saying like, it's fucked to mention me

— [102:01.420 --> 102:23.280] on the raps and all, but he didn't say it direct, that's what I'm saying. It sounded like he was like being he's very gentle and delicate you know if you know use this part of your promo maybe pay me you know it was for somebody who seems pissed about it he was very delicate with his words and I I didn't think that he was that pissed about it yeah do we know if he's pissed about he seemed he seemed irritated maybe he was wrong he seemed irritated by it. The nigga stabbed me before before he was up a couple B's

— [102:23.780 --> 102:25.580] I might not want to piss this off

— [102:28.100 --> 102:31.020] Little nice about this nigga, that's why I wouldn't say nothing

— [102:31.620 --> 102:33.040] All right, all the dialogue.

— [102:33.400 --> 102:36.140] This is an eight-minute click. Shout out to all the dialogue

— [102:37.880 --> 102:41.740] I'm skipping this a heartfelt open letter that he wrote to

— [102:42.900 --> 102:44.660] Jay-Z because it's too positive for

— [102:45.080 --> 103:04.320] me. I'm not writing a three-page letter to someone who stabbed me. Fair. No, everything he said in the letter was, Jay-Z, you're the man. You've helped so much. Who you are. All true. Like, he said a lot of good shit. I still am responsible for all of you men. This game is getting hot. It's a means to hell. Cancel the brunches. No, let's go to the end. Let's see. No, no. That is really. No, he's still reading. I think that

— [103:05.000 --> 103:07.160] what people need to understand is that

— [103:08.300 --> 103:10.660] most of Jay-Z's intentions is

— [103:10.980 --> 103:12.560] purely based on marketing.

— [103:14.040 --> 103:16.140] I was part of the rollout for

— [103:17.260 --> 103:20.280] the products that's going out right now in the streets.

— [103:20.660 --> 103:21.160] So

— [103:21.600 --> 103:22.100] I

— [103:22.420 --> 103:22.920] fell

— [103:23.300 --> 103:24.460] victim to that.

— [103:25.700 --> 103:36.220] I'm used over and over again in that capacity. Like I said, from the beginning, it's always been about marketing. You know,

— [103:36.680 --> 103:41.720] it's just that I continue to be the butt of the joke, you know? So,

— [103:42.060 --> 104:04.160] you know, he talks about trauma, but what about, you know, my trauma? What about people who lived in trauma? You know, that he keeps bringing it back up and back up. I would sound like a bitch too by that. I understand marketing and promotions. You think he sounds like a bitch? Yes. You wanna send the message to your brand. I mouthed that so we'd be sitting on air, but I'm fine with it, yeah. You're dangerous

— [104:04.660 --> 104:05.160] and

— [104:06.580 --> 104:09.360] you're threatened to hurt people using

— [104:10.440 --> 104:30.680] me as an example of how dangerous you are you know just to sell products then you know that's that's you know up to him you know I'm not against him making money you know but like I said you know he talks about trauma you know we got the point yeah it's like I said it's to me it sounds like somebody

— [104:32.680 --> 104:37.120] somebody I mean I don't think he's doing this but this just sounds like somebody who's working a lawsuit.

— [104:37.860 --> 104:41.740] Like trying to, you know what I mean? I didn't get that by for it. What did you just

— [104:42.560 --> 104:48.980] say? It sounded really mature and healed, honestly. And I think that he sounded like he was asking Jay-Z to be more healed when regarding

— [104:49.320 --> 104:51.520] me the person that was a victim of your

— [104:51.860 --> 104:52.980] alleged alleged

— [104:53.440 --> 104:53.940] assault

— [104:55.420 --> 104:59.120] I'm not I'm not mad at that. Okay, maybe I'll just never be that healed

— [105:00.400 --> 105:04.520] Okay, there's a new a new take say more I just I

— [105:06.100 --> 105:14.020] Think you got a couple options in this situation What somebody stabs you and then 20 years later still making songs about stabbing 1 is to just be above it all not comment

— [105:15.040 --> 105:16.740] which is what I would probably do if

— [105:17.320 --> 105:18.640] I'm him. I think

— [105:20.280 --> 105:21.660] it just comes across, maybe some...

— [105:22.760 --> 105:34.300] It's some you sh... Who you are for crimes done against men and crimes done against women is like 2 different marks. No, not at all. You don't give a... You don't give a... I think you're missing my point. I'm not saying,

— [105:35.100 --> 105:36.780] I'm saying talk your shit back.

— [105:37.380 --> 105:40.320] Why, that's not how it ends. Or you don't. You don't wanna do it. And,

— [105:40.680 --> 105:44.740] but there are other options there. Why do you ignore the other options? There are other options.

— [105:45.060 --> 105:51.720] You could be mature writing a 3 page letter about how much you admire him. Now that's a little, I'm not with the lettership, but everything he said afterward,

— [105:52.380 --> 105:59.120] it still sounded like it's coming from a mature place. Here's the thing for me. And he even ended with, yo, come here and check.

— [105:59.600 --> 106:09.140] He ended with, hey, you wanna use me and hey, I'm down to be part of the marketing company check if you're not part of marketing He is part of my technically is part of the marketing.

— [106:09.600 --> 106:11.300] You're a bar in a freestyle.

— [106:11.600 --> 106:16.680] I'm not marketing it around you I'm not you're not a part of the marketing though. The freestyle

— [106:17.060 --> 106:31.200] is freestyle itself is 1 thing you are a bar in the freestyle so I am a part of it this is not a part of them it's a mold school shit I like that part of it he's not suing not nothing you know just bring me up a little something if you're gonna keep put my name in shit I like my trauma like

— [106:31.520 --> 106:36.060] why is that not valid I don't understand yes I don't see that as part of, I'm not using you as marketing. Like if I'm running around here,

— [106:40.000 --> 106:43.400] I don't know if I'm screaming, you know, everything. I did this so I'm solidized.

— [106:45.720 --> 106:49.540] Like everything about Jay-Z's rollout has been a masterclass

— [106:50.120 --> 106:51.500] in adult marketing

— [106:52.720 --> 106:53.700] from GQ

— [106:54.200 --> 107:01.980] to the freestyle to the Yankee shit to the all the shows announced to even the hair the Secret sake or whatever

— [107:02.320 --> 107:06.320] every all of it, but it since the Frazier and it's all been

— [107:06.620 --> 107:11.440] Marketing. Yes, If you say my name 1 time in the middle of that span,

— [107:12.140 --> 107:20.840] I am a part of your marketing. And kindly asking you to break me off a little so I know I may not be an important part and yes

— [107:22.420 --> 107:27.620] It could have happened without me, of course, it's not around me, but you know the power of your voice

— [107:28.280 --> 107:37.800] You said it I came in here the next day and said all these years later Like at what point what point do we stop? He did something. Like when is enough enough? And if I feel like that,

— [107:38.580 --> 107:39.900] I certainly expect

— [107:40.240 --> 107:44.560] for Arna to feel like that. But Joe, that's what you just said, that's what I want him to say.

— [107:45.640 --> 107:59.400] Oh, I thought he did. Yeah, I got that from him. He said it, but again, like I said from the top, I just wanted to say more direct. He wasn't directing or aggressive? It was more like, I mean, like you might not want to do this anymore because the money, you know. It's just how we talk. No, I'm not making fun of his voice. I'm

— [108:00.700 --> 108:02.100] saying the wishy-washiness

— [108:02.440 --> 108:09.060] of it. And he's well aware of who he's speaking about. He's got a ton of respect and reverence for the guy and it's hard for me to have

— [108:09.400 --> 108:12.740] Reference for somebody who stabbed you and keeps rapping about it

— [108:13.180 --> 108:14.040] Cuz you can't

— [108:16.700 --> 108:17.200] Yes

— [108:18.820 --> 108:20.400] I was just a punchline of the Roos Picnic.

— [108:20.780 --> 108:49.580] I see what you're saying. Maybe he's more, again, he might be more mature and developed than me. I'm saying I would have difficulty. All he understands is I can't do, but so much to this nigga. So, you can just not say anything. What I'm saying is, if I don't say. But I still want to say something because it's bothering me. It's his choice, I'm not saying he did anything wrong. I'm just saying it's a choice I wouldn't make and I don't like the way it makes him look. I don't like the choice for him. If I were his life coach or his manager or his PR team, I would say don't do it this way. He's got every right to do it. And I think that's so unfair because he was somewhere minding his business when someone made me look away.

— [108:50.180 --> 109:35.260] So to say that him saying something is making him look away. It's not him saying something, it's what he's saying. It's the 3 page, 1st of all, if he just didn't do the 3 page letter, I probably wouldn't have said shit. When I looked at the- That letter was nasty. I was driving back. But I get it. I saw the headline. It was like, un-response or claps back to Hove. And then it was like, dear Hove, you are the greatest. And it was 3 minutes of that. Well, we can't blame him for headline culture. We know what headline culture is. No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying, but I'm not blaming him for the headline. And I think it's a great headline. I would make the same headline. See, that's a shame. Yeah, I'm saying in my mind, I was like, okay, I wanna hear what he's gonna say. And it was just such a stark contrast from what I thought he was gonna say to what he did say. I would never start that letter off that way. He's diplomatic, he's mature, cool. What if you know the power of who you talking to so let me

— [109:37.440 --> 109:46.780] know hey hey hold up for a 2nd hold up for a 2nd because we are talking about people with 30 and 35 years in the music business that have accomplished a whole lot of shit word so

— [109:47.080 --> 109:50.660] this is not his 1st time appearing to be this professional

— [109:51.040 --> 109:58.940] and appearing to be this type of businessman yeah we ain't really heard a whole bunch about he handles himself yeah yeah we know he's

— [110:00.980 --> 110:12.620] a certain way so I mean I'm not gonna just pretend like I feel like that's almost disrespectful to him. It is. And he gets a steak sometimes from where I get a steak from. I'm not gonna do that to him. Yeah, yeah. Like he is who he is still. We talking about Hov, but,

— [110:13.060 --> 110:14.840] Honest, who he is. Yeah.

— [110:15.420 --> 110:22.460] I think he would- I don't think his voice is this because we talking about Jay-Z. I think that he just has. That's just how he move. Yes.

— [110:22.860 --> 110:28.780] That's what I think. If it's not Hove, does he still write the 3 page letter? No, I'm not vouching for the 3 page letter. Cause I will say that's probably

— [110:29.180 --> 110:52.620] how. See I'm saying that's why you start with the 3 page letter because it's Hov. Yeah, and that's the part. Let me let you know I'm not even coming to you on that type of time, so I'm gonna start, lead with love, as some people say. I'm gonna start here and then let you know how I feel. Okay, I think how he felt got lost in all of that. And I don't think none of the story is a story without Hov, not for nothing. If there was any, I'm not going to say nobody's name because I don't want to be disrespectful, but you put anybody else's name in that position

— [110:53.300 --> 110:56.500] and rewrite history, it's not the same situation at all. True.

— [110:56.880 --> 111:01.880] If you, again, I don't want to go in circles. Address it, I just didn't like, It wasn't my cup of tea for

— [111:02.280 --> 111:04.780] how he did it. But there was another part of that interview

— [111:05.420 --> 111:21.340] they asked him about, which was about the Charlie Baltimore stuff. I don't like the Charlie's getting dragged and all this shit. Yeah, and that's why I was saying it goes back. That was the Dave Dash part I was saying. Dave had done interviews and he was basically talking about what the real reasons why onion in

— [111:22.120 --> 111:32.820] In jay-z had beef and he says over Charlie Baltimore. He went through this whole bit I don't want to rehash all the gossip of it I think my all it was was got a bunch of gossip and And that was the moment where I thought I'd handle it really well.

— [111:33.420 --> 111:34.520] You know, he basically.

— [111:35.140 --> 111:48.060] He was asked if they were ever intimate and he's like, oh, so we're in the studio, there's emotions high, something to this effect. He said she was art assigned to me. And were we intimate? Yes, while we were writing songs. Did it ever get, do you ever cross lines emotionally sometimes?

— [111:48.520 --> 112:01.820] He made it all about the music, basically. He was basically saying we just made good music. That's old school. In the professional shit. Old school professional shit. My thing is he not even the 1st person to, again, when Cam and Hov had they thing, and Cam said that in the verse when he was dissing Hov.

— [112:02.700 --> 112:06.260] He said it, and he said a little bit more after that. But this was like,

— [112:06.760 --> 112:15.820] I don't even like the, I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now. I'm dragging her into this. She was minding her own fucking business. And she responded too. Yes.

— [112:16.420 --> 112:19.420] And she did well, I watched it, and I liked her response. What was the response?

— [112:19.800 --> 112:20.520] She said,

— [112:21.620 --> 112:37.560] she basically denied it. She said, I don't know why Dame is doing this I don't know if he's joking if it's a bit she didn't deny well, she just didn't affirm it. Yeah, that's better Yeah, yeah, she didn't deny it. Basically, she was saying, I looked at Dame, every time I've been around Dame Dash, he's been the CEO, he's been a go-getter.

— [112:38.300 --> 112:39.240] He's been doing bullshit.

— [112:39.880 --> 113:08.300] Me seeing this side of him is very shocking to me. I never saw that side of him. And I don't want to be a casualty of war. She said, if I said I did it, they're going to say something. She said, if I said I didn't, they're going to say I'm lying. She said, this man, Jay-Z, is a married man. Why are we, 26 years later, talking about what happened? This man is a married man. He got a lot going on here as children. I don't want to be a part of that. This is not something that I want to encourage or engage with. Oh, go Charlie. She bought you a shoe. Charlie, if you're listening,

— [113:09.220 --> 113:10.360] I love you.

— [113:10.840 --> 113:11.900] I miss you.

— [113:12.200 --> 113:18.820] She's amazing. Wow, cause I didn't hear any of this. You're lucky to get even that from fucking Charlie Baltimore. I'll tell you that 1. She is

— [113:20.660 --> 113:21.800] 1 of the 4 mothers.

— [113:22.780 --> 113:24.500] She's 1 of the 4 mothers

— [113:24.880 --> 113:25.380] of

— [113:26.300 --> 113:31.140] keeping it P for lack of better terms. Yes sir. Philly shit. Yes sir. Yes sir. Stop.

— [113:31.520 --> 113:32.800] Stop because you're Amber.

— [113:34.440 --> 113:36.660] Stop. Stop. Stop. Back him down. That's

— [113:37.000 --> 113:39.440] what I'm saying about him. That's what I'm saying about him.

— [113:41.040 --> 113:42.380] Now you want to claim Charlie Baltimore.

— [113:43.680 --> 113:46.100] We got a few other people to answer for from Philly.

— [113:47.080 --> 113:48.640] But go, Chuck, go, Chuck. That's

— [113:48.980 --> 114:01.560] just, that's how. She killed it. She did. I respected her more than everybody in this yeah that's just yeah can we just stop this now like please I just no more and I again I'm part of problems I don't even wrote a book right

— [114:03.760 --> 114:04.700] business chillin

— [114:05.060 --> 114:08.340] Charlie's great all these dudes man just telling everybody business

— [114:09.520 --> 114:10.760] you know 1 day

— [114:11.380 --> 114:16.320] and maybe it won't happen no time soon, cause all these b******s with microphones gossiping on podcasts.

— [114:19.060 --> 114:20.280] But it be the dudes. It

— [114:20.740 --> 114:40.940] be the dudes. It be the dudes. Content world, I'm sorry y'all. It's the dudes. No, but even before content world. No, it's been the dudes. It's always the dudes. Always the dudes. I got you, but a lot of people these days, they subscribe to content. It's the dudes. Always. It's the dudes. For the most part it's been the dudes. It be the f**k dudes. It's dudes. I have a question. What did y'all expect Dame

— [114:41.280 --> 114:47.580] to do? Right? I'm never talking about Dame Dash again in life. I told you where I stand. Oh, you're not. I'm not. Dame Dash.

— [114:48.280 --> 114:49.740] Yup. I'm done.

— [114:50.100 --> 115:01.860] I didn't know that. Is there something that happened? No, I'm just done. He's on the list. He's on my list. It's a lot. I have a list of people that I'm just not going to talk about. Yeah. And Dane Dash has unfortunately made his way that list. I've said that 1000000 times up here.

— [115:02.300 --> 115:07.260] I got too much respect for Dane, so that's all I'm gonna say on this. I got you. Say no more. Yeah. That's real.

— [115:07.660 --> 115:10.420] And I don't want to feed the beast anymore. I understand. I understand your question.

— [115:10.780 --> 115:19.900] I did. I get it. I feel like this, man. Niggas made fun of his financial ups and downs. Niggas made fun of him. And 1 person has outweighed

— [115:20.660 --> 115:39.900] another and then when he gets there to explain himself, niggas making fun of him. So why not just lean into the content and do what you gotta do and to make your way to headline. What's happening? I think people is, people is. No, I'm telling you, listen, because niggas. You're right. When niggas is poking fun of him and saying niggas was washed up, nobody reached a hand out to help that nigga. No 1. That's true, bro.

— [115:40.680 --> 115:43.100] They put all this business online, they say he lost

— [115:43.500 --> 115:53.760] his stake here, he lost his business, look how bad he is, They bring up the fuck he did. What's that Rockefeller documentary he did when he was yelling at somebody? They bring up all that. Yo, this is the reason why he lost all of this. Or him.

— [115:54.260 --> 115:55.480] They speculate.

— [115:56.060 --> 116:09.740] Now when a nigga talk about it and he leans into content and he becomes part of the content, It's a problem. Yes, I do see what a lot of people are saying. I do understand when you look at somebody in a certain light and now they're going a route that seems mudslingish,

— [116:10.560 --> 116:16.160] sometimes your back is against the wall and you have to just lean into it and become the mud. He invented the word chatty-patty. That's my point.

— [116:17.100 --> 116:28.040] But when you lean into it and become the mud, you also have to be aware that people are going to look at you that way now. And as long as you cool with that, you cool with that. Like, Dane might be perfectly fine with the way people look at him.

— [116:28.440 --> 116:41.780] But people are going to look at you, like you said, He came up with Chatty Patty. So there are people that's gonna say, nah, not you. That's my issue. Not you becoming that. You gotta write this, again, defend yourself, explain yourself. It's your stories, you can tell your stories.

— [116:42.180 --> 116:43.040] But to me,

— [116:43.860 --> 117:08.580] there's rules to this that we all kind of abide by. Even up here, this we talk about, we never talk about. And Dame didn't just live by those rules, he kind of made them in public. He was the 1 like you said saying don't be chatty-patties. Men shouldn't be up here talking about men. Shouldn't be talking about other people's money. He made literally a list of shit you shouldn't be doing, how fucked up it was to do it. And he seems to be doing every single 1 of those things so again. I admire Dame I've respected Dame for a long time

— [117:09.000 --> 117:12.220] I'm in a video with a little white artist dissing Rockefeller

— [117:12.600 --> 117:14.940] This is Jay-Z is some shit with a little white girl.

— [117:15.360 --> 117:17.760] What the fuck would they come on? Please don't give me star

— [117:19.440 --> 117:29.660] Yeah, I'm gonna tell the truth about him. And I don't want to. I got too much respect for him. But some of this s*** is just a little, it's too goofy now. And he's too fly. I mean when I saw that single that came out a couple weeks ago,

— [117:30.420 --> 117:31.320] y'all heard it.

— [117:32.960 --> 117:34.080] He's too dope and too...

— [117:35.820 --> 117:39.560] And listen, and I'm with beef and... I'm with

— [117:40.200 --> 117:42.880] the Ref Stink crew. With the white girl!

— [117:44.760 --> 117:48.620] That's my man, I don't give a fuck. I don't know what the fuck that nigga was doing.

— [117:49.030 --> 117:49.530] He

— [117:49.940 --> 117:55.500] was in a trailer, I was like, what the fuck are you doing? I didn't understand that. That's funny, I laughed.

— [117:56.280 --> 118:01.860] I laughed, I was like, what are you doing? That's funny to me, I'm sorry. You guys are looking at it from such a...

— [118:02.160 --> 118:18.420] No, we're looking at it from the lens of... I get what you're saying, Joe. You're not wrong. I'm just taking it as your day man's made a decision to go into that lane. The guy that barked on Kevin Liles about them jackets and the clip that we all saw, it ain't supposed to end like this. That's what it is. And if it ends like that, then people are gonna retroactively

— [118:18.940 --> 118:23.160] go back to every single thing you said and did. How did we get here?

— [118:23.940 --> 118:34.380] What did you do? My breath stink, your breath stink, I smell something. What is that stupid shit? Stop, stop. Yeah, y'all have a breath stink. Let me ask you a question. Don't ask me nothing else about that. No, not about Dane, but let me ask you a question. Thanks for the plug.

— [118:34.840 --> 118:35.840] There's a lot of people

— [118:36.780 --> 118:52.340] that get, hold on, Mark, there's a lot of people that get ignored in society, right? And they get ignored. And it is not until they do something outrageous or content where people start to pay attention. What was that basketball player again that niggas he was a he was a he was a draft pick like out of high school but I'm Brown.

— [118:52.740 --> 118:56.140] Nobody give a fuck about him until he started doing that shit and then he became

— [118:56.900 --> 119:02.440] popular he was able to make money or whatever the fuck he was doing whether it was through YouTube or what these things happen. No he got re-popular.

— [119:02.880 --> 119:21.040] You got re-popular. That's what I mean. He got re-popular. But these are the things that happen because this is how society is built. This is what this is made of. The internet, how you can make money, and how you, well, when you go down a certain lane, if the positive lane isn't working, when you're going down a certain lane, you get the attention you want, you get the money you want, and it's just how you capitalize off it. I don't

— [119:21.600 --> 119:25.760] think you're saying nothing wrong. It's just the problem is, again, back to the specific person,

— [119:26.140 --> 119:28.600] all the things he told us a man is not supposed to do,

— [119:28.920 --> 119:29.880] you're doing them.

— [119:31.080 --> 119:41.180] That's where people are looking at it like. Maybe because that, the trick that they were doing was gonna. But it's even deeper than that, right? Like I'm all for friends beefing. Friends could beef. I feel like that's a part of friendship.

— [119:41.820 --> 119:50.980] If my 2 friends beef, I'm certainly gonna watch how they beef because certain parts of it is off limits. That's what I'm saying, okay? Y'all could fight, it could even be a rough fight.

— [119:51.780 --> 120:02.580] Some parts of that, if it get too far, I'm taking notice. Y'all could go back and be friends again. But I'm looking at you. But I'm looking at it a little shaky. Yes, yes. And That's part of what it is with him.

— [120:03.580 --> 120:13.760] Yeah. He's passed the boundary. And now I'm sitting here talking about it. I'm done talking about this thing. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not talking about it. It hurts though. As a nigga, I was in Dame crib, trying to make joints,

— [120:14.340 --> 120:25.320] think tanking. As somebody that watched him, I was in that building, to watch it be where it is now, that's not the way you want the story to end. Why do you think people don't reach out and help niggas? I don't give a fuck.

— [120:26.480 --> 120:33.480] I'm not talking about fuck him, I'm not talking about, not fuck him, pardon me, forget him, I'm not talking about him. Just in general, you touch so many people's lives.

— [120:33.860 --> 120:43.780] If you had to come up with a conclusion as being in the industry, why won't a person say, yo, hey, outside looking in, I would say that bridges have been burnt.

— [120:44.100 --> 120:45.760] Or also, for whatever reason,

— [120:46.280 --> 120:47.580] I would say he's a liability.

— [120:47.900 --> 120:55.800] I would also say that how do we know that people haven't reached out or helped? And something may have happened and now I'm cutting them off. On and off the record. Really?

— [120:57.120 --> 121:02.860] Yes. And some people have just helped and it's worked out and other people have tried to help and they didn't get the response they wanted because of the lack of humility.

— [121:03.520 --> 121:08.460] You know what I mean? I don't know what's true and what's not, but I know for a fact that there's been help offered.

— [121:09.320 --> 121:17.040] Got it, okay. You know what I mean? Prayer's up to everybody involved, man. Tears and peace, thoughts and prayers. I'm gonna be going there. Yo,

— [121:18.100 --> 121:21.280] Peace and love, yo. I hope everybody's great.

— [121:21.900 --> 121:28.560] Fend for yourselves. It's a cold world. Grab a water and a flashlight. It gets dark out there. Easy for you to say.

— [121:29.240 --> 121:35.820] Why's that? Because you fought through it. I would expect you out of all people. But then it's not easy to say.

— [121:36.160 --> 122:03.740] No, a person that fought through it, it would be easy to say that. That's the person to say that. Why would it be harder to say? Because you fought through it. Unless I'm saying something wrong. I don't want to say it. He's saying you made it out okay on the other side. You're good now, so it's easy for you to say it now but that's a result of putting as a person I don't know I'm just saying what flipping says easy for you to say at this point because you've already made it through it and you're up right where is somebody who still is trying to get to that point it's harder for them to hear that if I'm not correct. You're correct.

— [122:04.740 --> 122:11.340] You got it. I don't want to respond. So Lil Nas X likes Pussy. Hotline. So Lil Nas X likes Pussy. Lil Nas X likes Pussy. Most importantly.

— [122:12.400 --> 122:13.480] Clap it up for him.

— [122:14.160 --> 122:16.140] That shit's good. It's all right.

— [122:16.640 --> 122:21.600] Pussy's good. Whatever he likes. I got some medium news for y'all. I know a lot of you've been asking.

— [122:22.020 --> 122:32.660] I know you pay attention to electoral politics a lot. So I know you've been wondering, Joe. You want to answer my question? I think I got to answer it. Thank you. It's not the answer you want, though. OK. So people have been wondering if Mitch McConnell

— [122:33.820 --> 122:35.820] Yes, the senator is dead. Oh

— [122:36.460 --> 122:37.780] How about the call mark?

— [122:38.800 --> 122:45.120] Mark, I know you know because I thought because for those that don't know he's been in the hospital since I think like June Maybe 16th somewhere around there

— [122:45.780 --> 122:50.080] And no one's heard a peep from him. Mitch McConnell, by the way, is 1 of the most

— [122:51.740 --> 123:06.900] He's a piece of shit. There you go I will see and I didn't wait for him to die just to be clear So when he does die knock on wood, I will still be able to say it was some, you know consistency I've been saying it for decades. He's a terrible person in every way imaginable, but he's been in a hospital

— [123:07.220 --> 123:10.620] for a couple months now, or a month now, and

— [123:11.140 --> 123:15.860] no one's heard from him, people are starting to think he might be dead. There have been some reports from the hospital that he's brain dead

— [123:16.180 --> 123:17.860] and that no one's telling anybody.

— [123:18.260 --> 123:23.580] And this is something y'all need to pay attention to, 1st of all. Tempoil time? Oh yeah, it's definitely temporal time. Yep.

— [123:23.940 --> 123:26.020] You know what I mean? Because Republicans

— [123:26.400 --> 123:28.080] will let somebody be dead

— [123:28.860 --> 123:33.860] and not tell nobody they did. Because what they don't want to do is have a special election

— [123:34.240 --> 123:35.300] while they're down.

— [123:35.740 --> 123:49.440] Because if there's a special election right now in Kentucky, the Democrats could take that seat and it'll be part of a takeover of the Senate. So they'll do a weekend at Bernie's at least for a couple of months. Until November? At least until November to make sure shit

— [123:49.920 --> 123:57.240] is Gucci. So just pay attention to this. I've made some personal phone calls to his people. I made personal phone calls to

— [123:57.600 --> 123:59.400] people in that neck of the woods.

— [124:00.240 --> 124:02.320] And the word is that he's not dead.

— [124:03.980 --> 124:06.420] But maybe not doing great, but times are ticking.

— [124:07.340 --> 124:07.840] So

— [124:08.700 --> 124:12.040] we'll find out soon, but he's not dead. I don't believe he's dead.

— [124:12.720 --> 124:18.340] Okay. Like whenever a report came out about Clive, like a week before he died, and Clive is in the hospital. I was like, all right.

— [124:18.720 --> 124:19.360] All right.

— [124:20.140 --> 124:21.000] In what section?

— [124:22.500 --> 124:23.540] In the freezer section?

— [124:26.600 --> 124:27.220] Oh shit.

— [124:29.080 --> 124:29.880] On gando.

— [124:31.100 --> 124:38.380] For real. The hospital freezer section. At 93. Whatever. Hypothermia. That's funny. Hypothermia. That nigga is stupid. Holy shit. All right, so Mitch is alive, but. All right.

— [124:50.080 --> 125:00.840] The clock is ticking. Clock is ticking. Clock is ticking. Okay. And then we'll find out what it will be. Yeah, that's the question. Yeah. We might find out at Thanksgiving. Right. People be dead for a long ass time these days.

— [125:01.220 --> 125:04.880] I don't know. He wasn't looking the liveliest. No. Last time

— [125:05.220 --> 125:07.520] we saw him. Ain't that when he short circuited or something? Yeah.

— [125:08.460 --> 125:09.120] Freestyling. Oh yeah.

— [125:10.140 --> 125:11.980] Oh. All right.

— [125:13.240 --> 125:13.780] Now, now.

— [125:16.860 --> 125:27.100] He's coming back to me now. All right. He like shitted on himself 1 time. I wanted to go to a press conference, then he like. Good way or bad way? Look, in the big time. You know what? Nope. Am I cut?

— [125:27.540 --> 125:32.140] Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how tinfoil this is, but yeah. Watch your local news. Yeah,

— [125:32.540 --> 125:34.180] that's where the tip will come in

— [125:34.540 --> 125:39.200] But they won't tell us that's true. Now is this I saw this episode of scandal by the way

— [125:39.640 --> 125:45.500] Boom exact same 1. Mm-hmm. Okay. They might watch the we see K special on Netflix yet. Yep

— [125:46.300 --> 125:50.440] I didn't know was out Devastatingly horrible really what? Devastates

— [125:50.860 --> 125:54.780] I don't know if I've ever been this disappointed in a piece of media in my entire life.

— [125:55.100 --> 126:05.160] Really? I almost cut that shit off, but I was like, it's Louie. I gotta keep fighting through it. So you saw it through and it was hard. It didn't get better? I think the last 10 minutes, I was finally like, I'm going to bed. This is enough stuff. Oh, that hurt.

— [126:05.660 --> 126:09.460] Wow. That shit is bad. That hurt. I wasn't even gonna put it in there. You watched the whole shit? Yeah.

— [126:09.920 --> 126:13.700] Do you agree? It's bad. It's 1 of the worst things I've ever seen. It's really really.

— [126:14.700 --> 126:15.780] He was like on some

— [126:16.080 --> 126:25.740] like bad M&M jokes. That's what the majority of it was Yeah, like oh, then my dad's in the act like it's like I am like I for an hour of that Yes,

— [126:26.160 --> 126:30.380] no not saying nothing. No it in that yeah, no no point no poignant

— [126:31.220 --> 126:31.720] loophole

— [126:34.180 --> 126:42.140] Nothing just really bad a foul joke My dad might have fucked me or did or didn't and my mom has bad pussy joes. Fuck it. He opened with,

— [126:42.560 --> 126:43.600] I have AIDS.

— [126:44.400 --> 126:45.400] He opened with,

— [126:46.780 --> 126:49.160] I went to take an AIDS test because

— [126:49.720 --> 126:51.340] I just wanted some good news.

— [126:52.280 --> 126:55.120] Okay, that's kinda funny. All right, here. As it turns out,

— [126:55.600 --> 126:56.480] I have HIV.

— [126:57.680 --> 127:00.900] And as it turns out, you can get it from f***** rats.

— [127:01.760 --> 127:04.980] Yes, I f***** rat. That was, yeah. And I got HIV.

— [127:05.400 --> 127:05.900] Yeah.

— [127:07.280 --> 127:09.120] And the rat doesn't have to be

— [127:10.200 --> 127:14.440] Yeah, but this 1 was it's like that was the whole yeah, wow

— [127:15.940 --> 127:17.520] They lost me already

— [127:18.720 --> 127:21.240] Funny and then it just it got worse it gets worse and

— [127:22.260 --> 127:24.300] There's a funny joke in there somewhere. I missed it.

— [127:24.640 --> 127:27.100] I missed it. I sat there like this the whole time.

— [127:28.780 --> 127:29.280] Really?

— [127:29.760 --> 127:33.700] Damn. He's 1 of my favorites. Mine too. He was 1 of them. Same.

— [127:34.320 --> 127:34.820] Yeah.

— [127:35.140 --> 127:37.960] He didn't even look the greatest. No, he didn't look great at all. What was he eights?

— [127:38.300 --> 127:40.580] He didn't look, I'm not gonna say it. See?

— [127:41.160 --> 127:44.200] You can't tell Mark that kind of shit. He didn't look the greatest.

— [127:46.060 --> 128:10.540] That backdrop didn't look the greatest. This was just like if you a Louis CK fan, this was not it at all. Yeah, for this to me, maybe my girl was judging me like what do you want? Why were you? Oh, is this what you landed on? Yeah, then is that part right? I haven't to agree about everything that's on the fuck TV. Look, mom. Yes, I'm a fan of this white guy. I want to see what's going on with her Right, it's no good. That's the worst when you try to put on something for your girl like now. He's dope He's dope. He's dope for them. It's not oh

— [128:12.320 --> 128:18.380] This is what you think is funny Joe you put a TV in the bathroom yet No, the toilet has to be a small

— [128:18.720 --> 128:22.360] just this 1 just 14 inch in the bathroom It'll change everything for you

— [128:22.660 --> 128:23.800] Make it your little

— [128:24.140 --> 128:28.120] home base. You could do everything you want. You could watch the porn, you could chill, you could read, you could watch content.

— [128:28.520 --> 128:30.960] Yeah bro, you good bro? I'm great.

— [128:31.420 --> 128:31.920] I

— [128:32.540 --> 128:37.340] don't watch, I don't have a TV in my bathroom, but. And you look like you've been getting some

— [128:37.800 --> 128:53.460] rest. Some rest? You look good, man. Actually, last night was the 1st night I got rest. I was in a hotel last night, so I didn't get a lot of rest until my son woke up early, but last night I got about 14 hours. Oh, when you were home. I was home, yeah, yeah, yeah. Once in a while. When your wife was home? Yeah, I mean, yeah, she came home later. She got home

— [128:53.860 --> 129:01.580] about 1 a.m. No, well, when I woke up, she was home. 1 a.m., hey, hold up. Hey, all right. She was working, she's finishing her book. She's gonna go. I gotta talk to Miss Hill,

— [129:02.720 --> 129:12.100] yo. I respect her too much, even play around with her. No, she's good. Yo, boss. She's allowed to work. You don't think she's a... I believe in her. I don't know, not 1 AM. Flip, you a... 1 AM?

— [129:12.540 --> 129:14.660] I'm sorry. Let Liggy come home 1 AM, nigga.

— [129:15.040 --> 129:16.420] I be like this by the dawn.

— [129:18.060 --> 129:21.000] She didn't come at 1 AM. I woke up at 1 AM and saw she was home.

— [129:22.100 --> 129:23.520] I think she got in like 1130.

— [129:24.300 --> 129:29.840] I think she got in like 1130. I think she got in like 1130. Aliyah, you love your mom. She was in the office working.

— [129:30.260 --> 129:33.640] Mom, you were sleeping. Well, I trust my wife. All right.

— [129:34.380 --> 129:35.560] Me too. And her personal trainer.

— [129:38.720 --> 129:39.860] You trust your wife,

— [129:40.240 --> 129:43.100] you too. Don't touch me please. But you don't want my wife.

— [129:43.440 --> 129:45.860] No. Here's my only hypothetical question.

— [129:48.280 --> 129:49.220] In the event

— [129:49.840 --> 129:51.780] that there was infidelity

— [129:52.400 --> 129:52.900] happening,

— [129:53.660 --> 129:54.480] your wives

— [129:54.960 --> 129:55.780] did that.

— [129:58.100 --> 129:58.820] Not did,

— [129:59.240 --> 130:00.820] and is doing.

— [130:01.520 --> 130:04.020] Active. Actively. Ooh. 2 could play that game.

— [130:04.340 --> 130:05.400] Well, before we get there,

— [130:06.580 --> 130:09.900] my question is damn funny. Yo, you good? You good?

— [130:10.260 --> 130:16.800] Yo, Big Barks was cool. He's been having a passion, too. I mean, I wasn't finished. The heck with it. He already had a passion. Jesus. That's

— [130:20.100 --> 130:24.860] the question, gang. What's up with you? Hey, man, you got a little pudge in his floor shorts, too.

— [130:25.360 --> 130:34.360] Yeah. Yo. Yo, what's up? Oh, shit. I didn't want to say that. Oh, shit. I didn't want to say that. Hey, what's up, man? Yo. Yo. No.

— [130:34.660 --> 130:39.580] I took a little sticky, but I wasn't. I was. Oh, shit. Just the thought of it. God.

— [130:40.680 --> 130:48.380] Yo. Oh, shit. That's flaccid. Just the sound of his voice is a hit. That nigga is crazy. That's a bull. That's just me on that. You gotta look at that. Oh,

— [130:50.560 --> 130:51.060] no.

— [130:52.340 --> 130:54.540] My question to you, Mark, is

— [130:54.900 --> 130:57.700] how long before you think you would be hip?

— [131:00.660 --> 131:01.720] I got good instincts.

— [131:02.460 --> 131:04.020] I think I'd be a pretty fast

— [131:04.640 --> 131:05.720] pretty fast is

— [131:07.740 --> 131:09.180] Less than a month. Yeah

— [131:10.160 --> 131:10.660] Yeah,

— [131:11.720 --> 131:21.140] oh You're saying like isn't a fair. Yeah, you don't want a fair or she just 1 night an affair No, yeah, I guess we have to be in a fair. I think I would know. Yeah, fair you can't. I think that's

— [131:21.460 --> 131:25.420] easy to spot. When you live with somebody. You're all thinking a fair is easy to spot.

— [131:25.780 --> 131:26.280] Yes.

— [131:26.720 --> 131:33.460] Here's why. When you live with somebody, when you live with somebody and you want a relationship, like both those things together, this is not, I know you see, it's not.

— [131:35.940 --> 131:37.360] People patterns are so predictable.

— [131:37.660 --> 131:38.160] That's

— [131:38.860 --> 131:40.840] the 1, that's the red flag right there. And they start doing

— [131:41.380 --> 131:43.220] little shit different. That dress they never wore before.

— [131:45.140 --> 131:46.740] Hold on, I'm in

— [131:47.360 --> 131:56.580] the middle. I'm in the middle. No, I think the 1 off would be harder. 1 off, I couldn't tell. Yeah, 1 off. I'm going to tell you why I'm in the middle, because sometimes- You've been on both sides of this.

— [131:57.040 --> 132:00.420] Yes. Well, no, I'm not on both sides of this. You a jerk.

— [132:01.700 --> 132:04.120] Get your wife home from North, man, with a butchy ass. No!

— [132:04.700 --> 132:05.480] Leave her at

— [132:06.140 --> 132:06.900] the fuck. You saying that now, but you don't know. Listen. I love my wife, right? I know you do. Yeah. I know. I have to tell you. We all joking around.

— [132:07.480 --> 132:08.640] Here's the thing. I'm

— [132:13.540 --> 132:14.580] in the middle because,

— [132:15.060 --> 132:17.660] Yes, patterns change, but if the person

— [132:18.060 --> 132:20.460] is aware that you're watching their patterns,

— [132:21.380 --> 132:45.260] they can do something to throw you off their set. They just gotta work a little harder. Yeah, you know what it is, seeing that. But it's too late by then. Yeah, exactly. Right. If they're hip to that already. You saw it. No, no, no, Not if a mistake happened, you forgave them, they're not gonna make the same mistake twice. I don't think that's what he said. That's not what he said at all. It's about once the pattern start to change and you observe it, you're already onto them. Now they clean up and- But pay attention to what I'm saying. Then come on, what's up? You caught onto the patterns, you got them.

— [132:45.580 --> 133:00.980] You got past it. Now if you don't change your ways and you're still doing the same thing, which makes them go outside, they're not going to follow the same pattern that you know. But you can still if you still see the differences. OK, it might be a different difference. Yeah. But you'll still see differences.

— [133:02.000 --> 133:06.220] 1 time, like Mark said, it might be the dress. Hey, where you going with that dress? And y'all

— [133:06.600 --> 133:09.660] think y'all would be able to spot this change of pattern

— [133:10.460 --> 133:14.180] in less than a month. Oh, I think in less than a few days.

— [133:14.660 --> 133:18.020] Yeah. To a full-on affair. Affair, yeah. Not a one-off.

— [133:19.120 --> 133:27.700] I get what they're saying. It's some funny shit. Yeah, a little shit, man. And also, why you smiling a little bit too much, bitch? You smiling at your phone too much it start there it's

— [133:28.300 --> 133:28.800] little

— [133:37.720 --> 133:39.340] Just cuz you ain't bro,

— [133:39.760 --> 133:42.480] how long you think you would take you to find out, to realize it?

— [133:43.140 --> 133:48.060] And this is not looking for it, Mind you. This is not actively looking for, again.

— [133:48.520 --> 133:54.060] It would take me a while. I don't think so. Really? I don't think it would either. I don't think so because now when y'all living together,

— [133:54.520 --> 133:59.040] you start to notice their patterns. You start to notice their regular shit. Y'all keep saying that.

— [133:59.660 --> 134:02.860] And I don't want to turn this into that. Yeah, we'll have

— [134:03.700 --> 134:07.100] to. There are women that are great at cheating. Yes, of course.

— [134:07.540 --> 134:11.980] There are some women where you won't be able to detect the change in pattern

— [134:12.340 --> 134:13.720] in less than a month.

— [134:14.160 --> 134:15.240] Yeah, I think that's

— [134:15.580 --> 134:18.280] right. I'm not speaking for any of our partners.

— [134:19.020 --> 134:19.900] I'm just saying,

— [134:20.580 --> 134:30.580] it ain't just, oh, there's a pattern and the pattern's changing. I would spot it because when you live with somebody, you know there's people out there that are good at this. There's people out there that lived with their partner

— [134:30.900 --> 134:44.660] for 8, 9, 10 years and feel like they had the rug pulled from under room or somebody came to me woman to woman or man to man or you learned that the last 8 years when you've been dropping the baby off at the sitter the nigga lives around the corner.

— [134:45.180 --> 134:45.680] But

— [134:46.120 --> 134:54.060] you know what also happens in those? That same person looks back and say, oh, I saw certain. I ignored it. I ignored it. But that makes the answer to my question.

— [134:54.640 --> 135:08.360] But we saying, Rex, just seeing the change, seeing the change and attributing it to something is 2 totally different things. So some people will see the change and let it go. My question wasn't how long do it take you to notice a pattern change in your partner.

— [135:08.700 --> 135:14.660] And then that depends on you. My question was how long would it take you to know that this is what's happening?

— [135:15.860 --> 135:21.520] It is quick for me. It would be very good. I can't speak very well. Now again, 1 off, you know, that could happen.

— [135:22.240 --> 135:23.760] What else needs our attention?

— [135:24.300 --> 135:37.000] Minor or major? Let's see here. No, I'm done with Marcel as well. Not right now. You want to do a- Oh, shit! You were talking about, What is the TV show you told Louis CK? Oh, yeah, you were talking about Louis CK

— [135:37.620 --> 135:48.500] Let me tell y'all something out there and I know we don't normally we don't normally do this here But I gotta do it after that episode. I saw it other night. What you got you watch a love or been

— [135:54.880 --> 135:56.940] What Corbin is doing on TV

— [135:57.560 --> 136:03.860] He already got his Jersey in the, he is, he is a love. Love Island's got 5 seasons.

— [136:04.200 --> 136:05.220] Corbin. 8.

— [136:05.540 --> 136:31.460] Yeah. Is it 8? Yeah, this is season 8. Of US, UK. Of US, yeah. Oh, I'm not. UK is small. Or Miami is at 5 seasons. No, no, no. No, there. No, there. It's from Rometrie who did it, I can bet. Since season 8. Is he trolling or he watching it? He ain't watching this shit. He might as well talk about it. He ain't watching it. What the fuck is with your stuff? Corbin's a legend, man. Absolutely. Am I lying? Is he a legend? I'm pissed they got him out of here man. He's gone. He's gone. He's gone. What was going on a proper review? Oh some bull that was absolutely

— [136:31.840 --> 136:33.340] now you want to make challenges

— [136:34.400 --> 136:34.900] community

— [136:35.680 --> 136:38.020] a Week what 5 episodes left?

— [136:38.600 --> 136:39.220] I know.

— [136:39.640 --> 136:45.480] Kenzie should have been off the show. She's horny. How the f-ck is she still there? That's what I'm saying. Wow!

— [136:45.900 --> 136:46.400] Serious!

— [136:48.060 --> 136:50.560] Every week when I think she's gone. Who you got winning? Trinity?

— [136:52.020 --> 136:53.360] Nah, it's just Trinity and Bryce's

— [136:53.800 --> 137:03.600] show. I think Melanie and Sincerity are going to make a run for it in this last week. It's Trinity and Bryce's show, bro. I agree. It's over. It's been over. I can't believe Zack and Kata got voted so poorly.

— [137:04.240 --> 137:05.700] I can. They're not compatible.

— [137:06.240 --> 137:06.740] Shit.

— [137:07.051 --> 137:07.551] When

— [137:07.860 --> 137:15.920] y'all watch this, do your cycles of life? Me and Ice is here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be dead on. We're locked in. We'll be dead on. What a bunch of bitches.

— [137:16.420 --> 137:17.580] We're dead on, always.

— [137:17.960 --> 137:24.580] Actually, you know what? The other night, I'm like, all right, my girl is here. OK. Let me turn on Love Island

— [137:25.380 --> 137:35.180] and see what it is. So we go to Love Island, and I watch. When you go to it, it automatically starts playing the trailer. The trailer is all these people introduce themselves to me. They got good

— [137:38.000 --> 137:39.900] I couldn't put it on was these

— [137:40.320 --> 137:42.440] Started introducing themselves and flex

— [137:45.360 --> 137:47.940] I play volleyball and I'm a cancer

— [137:48.660 --> 138:05.900] The contestants never know what I'm bringing to the house. They intro might be the worst part of the show. It's like 10 of those It was horrible. Yeah, the intro and the narrator worst part social. Yeah, sometimes you be funny though Well, I do like love islands and that's me me I gotta get my wife. She watches the British 1. She says she about to start watching this 1. I'm not watching the British

— [138:07.120 --> 138:08.020] I'm not watching

— [138:15.300 --> 138:16.680] Oh, man. You know,

— [138:16.980 --> 138:20.180] my guy, yo. Idris Elba's nephew. Oh, man.

— [138:24.440 --> 138:25.240] I can spot the pattern.

— [138:25.760 --> 138:26.400] That word.

— [138:27.600 --> 138:28.460] Do it like,

— [138:29.120 --> 138:30.580] would you like to spot the tea?

— [138:31.300 --> 138:33.400] My wife's been killing these TV suggestions.

— [138:34.460 --> 138:35.340] I'll play 1 like this.

— [138:37.260 --> 138:39.460] Here's a bright idea for you guys out there.

— [138:40.140 --> 138:43.640] I laughed when I heard it, so it's only right I give it to y'all.

— [138:44.240 --> 138:44.740] United

— [138:45.060 --> 138:45.560] airlines

— [138:45.980 --> 138:50.080] is trying out a new thing so there's less congestion,

— [138:50.940 --> 138:53.040] shorter wait times at the airport.

— [138:53.900 --> 139:00.980] Sounds great. If they are trying what they're calling, if I remember right, some type of twilight program,

— [139:02.340 --> 139:03.140] a early

— [139:03.500 --> 139:05.420] luggage drop-off program. Flight program, an early luggage drop off program.

— [139:06.740 --> 139:08.640] So if your flight is at

— [139:09.580 --> 139:10.460] 9 a.m.,

— [139:11.460 --> 139:12.740] you may get an email

— [139:13.240 --> 139:14.400] 24 hours

— [139:14.760 --> 139:16.040] before the flight

— [139:16.520 --> 139:18.540] to come drop your shit off. And if you do,

— [139:18.900 --> 139:20.680] you could drive to the airport

— [139:21.820 --> 139:24.360] and check in and drop your bag

— [139:24.960 --> 139:26.180] and then go home

— [139:27.120 --> 139:29.920] and then come back to me. Fuck your mind.

— [139:30.240 --> 139:38.680] Fuck you bro. That is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Yeah, now you- How the fuck was I gonna- Yo, I already lose my shit when it's on the same plane. Right, right. They're trying it out. Yeah, okay. They're trying it out.

— [139:39.080 --> 139:48.380] Good luck. I had to rewind this shit when I heard it. I was like, huh? I wish I would. I was gonna go to the airport twice. Twice, where- Let me get some discount for doing this? It's never happening.

— [139:48.860 --> 139:50.360] No. No, that 1 ain't gonna

— [139:50.940 --> 140:05.480] work, big dog. Never, ever, ever, ever. That's right. Hey, yo, can we say, like, there's a couple of people in the world who feel that they have a lot of power, and it's just flight attendants are 1 of them. The airlines in general they just feel like they do what they want

— [140:06.620 --> 140:17.980] lady nigga outside of slap the shit out of you nigga you talking they feel they got mad power you can't do nothing about it can't not a damn paint Won't play with that list if you could buy a better seat

— [140:29.380 --> 140:36.980] They come with the water they do mad shit try to close a little bit fuck no 1 bag of pretzels for you flip Now I get 4. I'm from Queens

— [140:37.740 --> 140:41.420] Yo, I saw the interview that Floyd Mayweather did with Cameron

— [140:41.840 --> 140:44.120] explaining how he's not popped.

— [140:45.640 --> 140:49.220] Let me tell you. He's popped. Boy, did he sound popped.

— [140:49.580 --> 140:59.740] Don't do it to him. Everything he said trying to say he wasn't popped sounded popped. I get it. I get it. And he did what he's supposed to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Yo, nobody took my houses.

— [141:00.340 --> 141:08.180] Nobody took my car. I still got everything all my people still paid if I'm pop you would see it somewhere Yeah, like he would probably be like bouncing checks. Yeah

— [141:08.760 --> 141:14.540] Watches, yeah, take him imaginary fights, right? Yeah, he gotta be pop because I'm not even really

— [141:15.200 --> 141:18.580] well connected in this and I've gotten calls.

— [141:21.300 --> 141:28.660] Hey, I shouldn't get called, but I got them. Yeah, yeah. Teasing peas. Teasing peas. Mark don't care, but I care. And Tupac cares

— [141:30.760 --> 141:43.020] if nobody else cares. I'm on the same type of time. I feel bad for Floyd. Yeah, I don't care how much he was balling. I don't want nobody to be broke. He didn't get napped in Dubai. He probably want some of that money he set on fire. This might be a good time to get it back. Well. Yeah.

— [141:43.440 --> 141:43.940] Yeah.

— [141:44.660 --> 141:46.660] Yeah. Uh-huh. Hey, yo, listen, I was

— [141:47.300 --> 142:09.000] going to say, you know, I was like, hey, hey, I done shut y'all the fuck up. I don't think that means he deserves what he's going through. Oh, God. Yeah, no 1 said he did. It just means people gonna be less people gonna feel less sympathy for you. Not mad at people. That doesn't make me feel that way. I'm not mad at people. I get it. I get it. I get it. I don't want to see nobody go broke. And I don't, you know, and

— [142:09.680 --> 142:13.660] I said I was just in Miami with, you know, you know what I was doing in Miami, working. We done.

— [142:14.040 --> 142:18.760] What were you doing? I was just hanging out with the guys over there and shit like that. And-

— [142:19.080 --> 142:22.100] Money team? Not the money team, Adrian Broner, Dean, shout out to

— [142:22.400 --> 142:28.460] them. What I've noticed though- Wait, is that part of your content announcement that you're gonna be working with them? Nah, give me a 2nd. What I've noticed

— [142:28.860 --> 142:29.660] is that

— [142:32.380 --> 142:32.880] People

— [142:33.580 --> 142:36.660] like to encourage other niggas to just act crazy.

— [142:37.400 --> 142:39.300] Let me say that, because I don't want to insult my mans and them.

— [142:40.000 --> 142:41.780] Like, when we was in the spot, you know what I mean?

— [142:42.200 --> 142:44.180] They were, like, giving A.B. The liquor, trying to

— [142:44.540 --> 142:47.400] get him to drink it, turn up, and, you know what I'm saying? He's getting all that money now, so

— [142:47.900 --> 142:50.120] he's giving it out, and he's encouraging it. So when

— [142:50.800 --> 142:52.160] Flip came around, and I put a stop to that,

— [142:52.720 --> 142:56.900] they didn't like me. Actually, they wanted me out the spot when I was trying to get A.B. Out of there.

— [142:57.260 --> 142:59.580] But it's just crazy when a nigga go broke

— [143:00.080 --> 143:01.160] and a nigga get

— [143:02.220 --> 143:03.060] back into

— [143:03.780 --> 143:04.960] the fucking field,

— [143:07.120 --> 143:10.440] looks a little crazy, yo. People, to me, are predatory

— [143:11.060 --> 143:18.220] in this business, and they don't want the best for you. They want you rich, they want you broke, They want you in whatever position they can get the most out of you and extract from you and

— [143:18.680 --> 143:33.160] That's why you gotta be around people care about you for every person like you that's gonna protect them There's gonna be 10 people that's gonna try and make content out of it and make content out of it, too Yeah, but you're not doing it at his expense No, and if you could have made 10 times as much to watch him turn up drunk, you wouldn't do that.

— [143:33.660 --> 143:34.660] And that's the difference.

— [143:35.300 --> 143:38.520] But then, you saw that shit's ass. That shit's

— [143:39.140 --> 143:40.600] wack. That shit's corny.

— [143:41.140 --> 143:47.360] Yeah. It is. Even if they making money from it. Fuck that shit's ass and it's corny and it just comes off away. So,

— [143:47.960 --> 143:49.080] yeah, thank you. Yeah,

— [143:49.400 --> 144:05.400] well, there's a lot of money in that sh-t, Joe, but money ain't everything. That n-g-g is trying to get me. Joe, you got to see, I don't be a... I be in my own world when I hear y'all's stories. I be in my own world when You actually go out there and see it. And you fucking plays and nigga just took out 10,000

— [144:05.780 --> 144:21.160] and gave it to somebody and like just doing shit. I don't know what's up with my man. I don't know what liquor does or when you get it. I look at it as catching up to the times that you miss because if you rich and then you go broke and then you get rich again. Listen, there's a bunch of millionaires out there with health complications.

— [144:22.380 --> 144:25.760] That's a fact. There's a bunch of billionaires out there with health complications. True.

— [144:26.080 --> 144:35.480] Don't be tired about being out there just doing whatever for some money and then get a health complication. Now we're like, oh, what could I have done differently? You start looking at shit and saying, it's like, dog,

— [144:36.560 --> 144:44.900] like, how old we gotta be now? We talked about it when Wayne missed the show and then he came out and said he was like yo I suffer from seizures

— [144:45.560 --> 144:46.900] and 1 of the triggers

— [144:47.220 --> 144:57.220] that I know I may possibly have a seizure is I get these migraines. And he was like, I had got 1 of them migraines prior to the show, so I said, I can't do the show. Now,

— [144:57.560 --> 145:02.800] take it how you will, but back to people, millionaires with health complications, if that is the case,

— [145:03.660 --> 145:15.260] there's money. I'm like, nigga, we don't care, get your ass out here and do the show. We want to record it, yeah. Or if it's a stream or something with some content piece we don't care get your ass in front of this camera so we can monetize it like

— [145:16.520 --> 145:20.040] why we why we here I'm gonna send I want to send a shout out to Rory.

— [145:21.180 --> 145:31.780] Before we started recording, we received some real unfortunate news about Rory that he shared on his podcast about health complications that he had. So it's confirmed? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I hit him immediately.

— [145:32.240 --> 145:33.260] I hit him immediately.

— [145:34.700 --> 145:35.520] He had a stroke,

— [145:36.300 --> 145:37.060] or strokes.

— [145:37.860 --> 145:41.100] I haven't spoken to him just via text, but

— [145:41.500 --> 145:42.000] yeah,

— [145:43.420 --> 145:48.860] it got scary for him recently. Shout out to Rory, yo. Send him love. Yeah, that shit ain't no joke, man.

— [145:49.280 --> 145:53.280] Rory, I'm glad you all right. I hope you're all right. I'm praying for you.

— [145:53.600 --> 145:54.560] I love you.

— [145:55.020 --> 145:59.900] Yeah that shit. We gotta have this time. Everybody gotta stay on top of this shit. Yeah.

— [146:00.840 --> 146:04.580] I just saw Rory. We was at the Wale show a couple weeks ago.

— [146:05.140 --> 146:05.640] Wow,

— [146:06.400 --> 146:06.900] yeah.

— [146:08.140 --> 146:12.620] Scary shit. You don't want to hear that about nobody, bro. Y'all caught up with your health checkups and all that shit? Yes,

— [146:13.320 --> 146:14.960] I stay on top of all that shit.

— [146:16.400 --> 146:19.240] Rory, I love you. If Ashley was alive, she would say you're chasing.

— [146:22.700 --> 146:23.920] That's funny, sir.

— [146:24.500 --> 146:26.440] That's funny. That was terrible.

— [146:27.780 --> 146:28.860] Rest in peace, Ashley.

— [146:29.760 --> 146:31.400] Alright, what else? What else? What else?

— [146:32.020 --> 146:34.940] I had a moment this weekend while I was almost

— [146:35.360 --> 146:36.540] almost almost

— [146:37.380 --> 146:38.580] proud of Donald Trump

— [146:39.160 --> 146:39.660] Huh?

— [146:40.600 --> 146:43.640] I was I knew you voted for that money. It was you the whole time

— [146:44.340 --> 146:45.640] We got we got

— [146:46.740 --> 146:48.340] Now, you know, it was a

— [146:48.660 --> 146:55.240] y'all saw the situation where the striker for the United States, and we're talking World Cup for a minute, a little football. A little football. Football.

— [146:56.280 --> 146:58.540] Where he basically got suspended for a game,

— [146:58.900 --> 147:03.760] and suspensions happened, it probably was a bad call, They looked like they just ran into each other. Whatever, it was a bad call.

— [147:04.240 --> 147:04.740] But

— [147:05.080 --> 147:07.560] Donald Trump made a phone call.

— [147:08.140 --> 147:08.640] Big

— [147:09.020 --> 147:27.880] T. To the FIBA officials or whoever you call when these things happen. Somebody, you think he got through? Oh, he got through. Oh, he got through. Oh, okay. And the suspension was lifted. Oh. And understand, this is like the 1st time this happened. I think it was 1 of the times in the 60s where it happened, but in general, like it don't work. It don't go like that. People are all, I was with Piers Morgan yesterday, the British people are mad as fuck about it.

— [147:28.260 --> 147:29.700] Like that was the lead story.

— [147:30.100 --> 147:38.460] Belgium was sending attorneys. They was ready. They was like, yo, we're gonna approach we're gonna we're not gonna allow this We're gonna sue but it was like, you know United States

— [147:38.840 --> 147:41.100] we played lawyer games. That's our bag

— [147:41.980 --> 147:43.400] Y'all win in football

— [147:44.120 --> 147:47.820] And beat the shit out of us but you don't play us in court.

— [147:48.140 --> 147:51.860] That's true but I don't I don't know I mean like I don't think politicians

— [147:52.240 --> 147:56.780] and especially presidents should be jumping into sports events. However,

— [147:58.280 --> 148:01.720] it was kind of nice. All right, I was waiting for that part.

— [148:02.780 --> 148:06.400] Oh yeah. He's our best player? Or 1 of our important players? Important player.

— [148:07.540 --> 148:08.040] Okay.

— [148:08.480 --> 148:18.900] Important player. They were making a big deal. Like, I don't follow, I don't know who he is, but I saw a big deal being made that, oh, how's he going to miss the game? We don't have a shot now. We have a shot anyway

— [148:20.780 --> 148:24.440] But people were it was a big deal that he wasn't gonna play in this game. Yeah

— [148:25.800 --> 148:29.000] So if the president could call him make some

— [148:30.120 --> 148:31.940] See Do something good for once. Yeah

— [148:32.360 --> 148:38.040] Get I'm in in there. Yeah, so do we think that the Trump sports curse is still real though?

— [148:38.940 --> 148:42.020] Thank you part. Okay, that's not the piece you're ruining everything.

— [148:42.380 --> 148:47.760] Yeah, he maybe should have stayed out of it Yeah, my the 1 without do yeah, they had like 1

— [148:48.180 --> 148:58.660] Piece of smut on a record after that Atlanta series and it was when Donald Trump shows up now. He called fever Yeah, we know not you said fever you keep calling you know, whoever you call for soccer Thanks, you know that shit is whatever it was. Yeah,

— [148:59.240 --> 149:01.600] I don't know man. Yeah, we're out of it though

— [149:02.180 --> 149:08.980] what would you what would you prefer him to get involved in if you had to say? I don't know freeing people stopping wars

— [149:13.500 --> 149:16.080] What's related or you just say social yeah, yes

— [149:17.200 --> 149:22.960] You know, I mean it's much more important thing But it was something that mattered to me, I would like for him to get on the phone with LeBron

— [149:23.420 --> 149:35.000] James and work this shit out where LeBron bring his ass to Philly and we go get us a check. American 250, what better way to celebrate the 250th anniversary of America than to go to the place where it all started. It started in Philly. That's right.

— [149:35.340 --> 149:37.080] We are the cedar and Sedgwick

— [149:38.460 --> 149:39.160] of democracy.

— [149:39.480 --> 149:49.400] Talk to him. You know what I'm saying? Philly, it all started in Philadelphia, so LeBron could bring it home to 50. What better way to celebrate America than LeBron James as part of the Philadelphia 1776ers?

— [149:50.940 --> 150:01.620] Boom. I don't think LeBron going to the sixes, man. You just hate him. Yeah, I wouldn't even watch basketball. What the fuck, bro? You didn't even have to do that. I can't even see. You don't want us to be happy. I do. That's true.

— [150:02.260 --> 150:11.740] I got a lot of people in Philly that I love, man. But I'm just saying, huh. Well, don't say that, because you might can't go back to Philly talking like that. I got good friends over there, man. Yeah, not if you keep talking like this. Because it's LeBron.

— [150:13.160 --> 150:15.700] LeBron coming to Philly would be a major. Yes.

— [150:16.760 --> 150:33.620] We made our plea. I think we're about 2 days away from an announcement. So he's doing that TV shit again? No, no, no, no, no. She ain't might. There's some content. I can do that shit on the Rocky Steps. Didn't he say he learned his lesson from the big Miami shit? There's going to be some type of content behind that, but it ain't going to be a post like he did when he was going to latest it might not be a live

— [150:34.240 --> 150:40.000] From the YMCA yeah block on television, but we won't be doing from Max's and Philly

— [150:40.440 --> 150:40.940] Erie

— [150:42.120 --> 150:49.120] Go to 1 of the local shaky books in Delaware Avenue my jersey would be here Saturday. Oh, yeah, I'm waiting I'm trying not to do you ordered it.

— [150:49.500 --> 150:50.000] I

— [150:50.380 --> 151:17.060] ordered it. He ordered a LeBron, Philadelphia 60s jersey. How the frick you got that? You just get the custom and you put his name in the number. He got like 3 merchandise deals. What are you talking about? I'm right. Yeah, that's facts. He ain't going there, nigga. So get that out there. Yeah, probably gonna get somebody else. No, we got everybody. We got everybody. We loaded. That's what we need. We got 2 spots. 1 for LeBron and 1 for my main man, LeBron Jr. Yeah, Bronny Jr. You changed your mind on Bronny? I am fake, Flip. Who are we supposed to be rooting for now that the US is out of the

— [151:17.460 --> 151:17.960] tournament.

— [151:18.340 --> 151:19.780] I mean, I wasn't rooting for the US anyway,

— [151:20.660 --> 151:21.680] so. Wait, what?

— [151:22.340 --> 151:25.400] Why would I be rooting for? The tracks. Is that track y'all? Yes.

— [151:25.760 --> 151:28.120] What's the world cup? Who's rooting for Iran?

— [151:28.520 --> 151:31.920] I root for anybody, but I root for all the 3rd world.

— [151:32.360 --> 151:36.280] Do they even got a team? Yes, they got a team, I think. Columbia's still in it, right?

— [151:37.300 --> 151:37.960] They played

— [151:38.940 --> 151:42.620] last night. They played last night. Wait, y'all root for America in all the sports?

— [151:43.100 --> 151:45.760] Yeah, you used the world? You goddamn

— [151:46.340 --> 151:49.900] right. I might not fuck the government and all of that here, but what is us works to do

— [151:52.660 --> 151:55.740] Like Joel Santana with the ball of flags on it

— [151:56.260 --> 152:02.000] Yeah, Meraka. So let me see who's left in around the 16. That's the France Morocco Spain Belgium Norway

— [152:02.980 --> 152:06.300] Argentina and either Ghana or I'm sorry Colombia or

— [152:06.940 --> 152:15.240] This easy Morocco will be my 1st choice But I also my daughter's half my We'll be looking at Brazil, because if Brazil's in it. Brazil? They're not.

— [152:15.820 --> 152:29.220] They're not in around us? Oh, you lost in Norway, you're right, you're right. I was about to say, because that's like Cape Verde. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Trin. Oh, you're right. Cabo Verde. Hey, hey, hey. It's not in Cape Verde, it's Cabo Verde. No, Colombia, yo Mark, I don't know how to say saying mark Columbia's right there with no I know

— [152:31.100 --> 152:32.380] The joy of correct me

— [152:33.040 --> 152:33.980] I don't want you

— [152:36.760 --> 152:38.520] Okay, I'm over it

— [152:39.160 --> 152:40.300] the people the bottom

— [152:41.840 --> 152:52.160] You can make smell it good like that boy I don't care bro, I root for the people at the bottom. Nigga, why you come back smelling good like that, boy? Don't come back smelling good, boy. Why you come back smelling him? Word. I'm not smelling him. The fucking scent is strong.

— [152:52.860 --> 152:58.060] Why you come back smelling good? What you want to do? I want to connect to the aura ring, boy.

— [152:58.460 --> 153:05.440] Yeah. Now you smell me. Smell me. It's not an ad. It's not an ad. We ain't going to talk about the aura ring. We ain't going to do that. It's not an ad. So I'm like, your aura ring, your corn.

— [153:05.820 --> 153:08.340] How it make you feel freezy? What do a yellow or me?

— [153:08.860 --> 153:11.340] We make yellow or he's trying to just match on some power

— [153:11.800 --> 153:13.720] Got you. I know I put the color

— [153:22.800 --> 153:24.000] Sign on the shirt Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops, Sabertooth Tiger, Freeze. I see you trying to match it to the captain sign on his shirt.

— [153:24.760 --> 153:30.660] I see you trying to match the lettering on the soccer dad shirt. How many different orb rings you got? 1, boy.

— [153:31.300 --> 153:34.840] You went to the barber shop this weekend, Freeze? Put some nail polish on that bitch? I knew we had a shortage.

— [153:35.280 --> 153:38.380] I knew he didn't have a bunch of order. You need 1 lying around

— [153:39.280 --> 153:42.540] You with the barbershop yesterday. I want a barbershop twice a week for

— [153:44.120 --> 153:45.200] Shouts to my barber.

— [153:45.540 --> 153:46.220] Oh man.

— [153:47.080 --> 153:49.300] Yeah, we got some mom some sad news

— [153:49.920 --> 153:53.500] Breaking new not breaking but it's literally genuinely sad news. Oh

— [153:54.680 --> 153:57.640] The Nolan Xavier Wells, you heard this story?

— [153:58.040 --> 153:59.120] Yes. He was the missing 18-year-old.

— [153:59.800 --> 154:00.920] Yes. He was,

— [154:01.720 --> 154:08.120] for a couple days now, people have been trying to find him, trying to figure out what happened after he disappeared. He was last seen

— [154:09.060 --> 154:10.180] on July 4th,

— [154:11.020 --> 154:12.140] around 3 p.m.

— [154:13.600 --> 154:15.880] On Horn Island, which is off the Mississippi coast.

— [154:16.420 --> 154:17.120] Anyway, his

— [154:17.520 --> 154:18.680] body has turned up,

— [154:19.400 --> 154:28.320] a body has turned up that there that matches his description they're still gonna do the formal DNA test but as of the time we're airing they think it's everyone thinks it's him got it

— [154:28.960 --> 154:30.760] do you think file play that's

— [154:31.160 --> 154:32.360] been the thing man

— [154:32.840 --> 154:39.820] All the social media has been saying they believe that it is. And I know that's influencing people's opinion. I don't,

— [154:42.340 --> 154:46.860] I don't assume foul play. And I, and my gut, Can I just jump in real quick? Cause I just, I feel like

— [154:48.280 --> 154:52.840] social media may be influencing things in this case, but why people

— [154:53.160 --> 154:53.980] think that

— [154:54.640 --> 155:13.660] social media is not going to do with social media. I don't want to make it sound like that's a social media thing. That's fair. That's fair. I think that's just the loudest voice that I'm hearing right now. I should have been more clear, you're right. There's, he was with a group of people, part of it is he was with a group of white people. White people, white guys, yep. And I got a- Who, the what, and the where. Yeah.

— [155:14.240 --> 155:17.800] Mississippi, group of white people, And then he went off and he spent time with

— [155:18.180 --> 155:24.360] 1 young lady who I believe was the last person to have seen him. That's what I reported last night on night school. That's the last thing I got was that he

— [155:24.700 --> 155:26.580] was a 1 young lady. She said she saw

— [155:26.940 --> 155:28.140] him. They parted ways.

— [155:28.680 --> 155:29.400] Everything was normal.

— [155:29.760 --> 155:31.660] Right. She cooperated with

— [155:32.940 --> 155:42.260] investigators. They're not, as of now, naming her as a suspect. Again, you never know. Of course, we saw that with the David case. Sometimes they say that just to see how you carry it. But as of now,

— [155:43.180 --> 155:45.200] no 1 has reported foul play.

— [155:45.760 --> 155:47.140] It's early. It's

— [155:47.700 --> 155:54.260] early. But part of what I was thinking about, I was thinking of 2 things. 1, if he's with a group of black people, do we assume that this is foul play?

— [155:54.640 --> 155:55.140] No.

— [155:55.800 --> 155:56.300] Yeah.

— [155:56.800 --> 155:57.320] So then

— [155:57.900 --> 155:59.920] we got to unpack that. And again,

— [156:00.440 --> 156:09.060] a black dude in a room full of white people is for me enough to be suspicious. I'm not saying that that's not a good suspicion given the context, but I also don't want to assume that just because somebody's missing,

— [156:09.640 --> 156:11.720] that the white people did something to them. In Mississippi.

— [156:12.260 --> 156:13.780] Even in Mississippi, right?

— [156:14.420 --> 156:20.680] I'm also don't want to assume they didn't. All I'm saying is I don't want to jump to conclusions and here's why. Tell me why, man.

— [156:23.660 --> 156:24.500] When your child

— [156:24.820 --> 156:26.780] is missing and then your child turns up

— [156:27.100 --> 156:29.740] dead, that's already traumatic. You want to blame somebody.

— [156:30.180 --> 156:47.640] Yes, but if I start to, but I don't want to find out my child is dead. I damn sure don't want to find out that somebody harmed or abused my child. Find out my child drowned versus somebody like poisoned them or killed them or shot them. That's even more traumatic. And I don't want to put that trauma on the family before we have evidence of it. That's why.

— [156:48.060 --> 156:54.500] I'm not against the conspiracy theory and what I might have in the back of my mind will continue to brew, but now I think about it like a parent.

— [156:55.100 --> 157:01.500] See, even as a parent, what you would initially think is maybe not even that somebody did something, but somebody knows something.

— [157:02.100 --> 157:05.120] That's the 1st thought. And that could be true. 1 of y'all,

— [157:05.460 --> 157:05.960] somebody

— [157:06.600 --> 157:07.100] knows

— [157:07.560 --> 157:08.060] something.

— [157:08.860 --> 157:16.340] When everybody that my child was with, hey, we don't know what happened, we don't know, we don't know, nobody knows, nobody knows, I saw him, I didn't see him no more, Now he pops up dead.

— [157:17.080 --> 157:18.340] For a parent, that's

— [157:18.900 --> 157:19.920] somebody lying.

— [157:20.780 --> 157:24.660] Yeah. So that's where your mind goes. It may not be y'all killed him,

— [157:25.440 --> 157:37.040] but someone knows more than they're telling at this point because y'all trying to protect yourselves. You don't want to get in trouble, whatever the case may be, but the parent's mind goes to, I'm not getting the truth from everybody.

— [157:37.460 --> 157:38.800] If you're saying that it's irresponsible

— [157:39.480 --> 157:41.300] without enough facts to substantiate

— [157:41.820 --> 157:43.720] said claim, then maybe.

— [157:44.760 --> 157:45.260] Yeah.

— [157:45.600 --> 157:51.780] So I can't say thou. And that's the thing about the harm that does to the parent who's hearing that too. Cause now they gotta entertain those unsubstantiated

— [157:52.200 --> 157:54.440] thoughts. That's why I care about it, honestly.

— [157:55.600 --> 157:58.140] If I were the parent, I would be starting there.

— [157:58.440 --> 158:02.220] And yet somebody needs to convince me that they didn't do it. Facts.

— [158:02.780 --> 158:13.140] Facts. We started here. Switch all, all of y'all. Somebody had to say something. And again, that is the correct thing to do, but the character of these people and places they have to come in. You're talking about Mississippi.

— [158:14.160 --> 158:17.500] There's a thing there. You're talking about white people. There's a thing there.

— [158:17.960 --> 158:21.680] There's a thing there. And you're the only black? I'm still not all for the black lady that went,

— [158:23.080 --> 158:28.120] with a white friend that showed up there, that don't know, ain't nobody say nothing about, don't nobody care about, it's just whatever.

— [158:28.440 --> 158:30.260] Like that happens too much.

— [158:30.900 --> 158:35.420] Exactly. For me to start with, and now they got some circulating this says there was an argument

— [158:36.560 --> 158:36.840] with

— [158:37.480 --> 158:43.280] Nolan and the white dudes there's a video circulating online that they're saying I haven't seen that video that they're saying

— [158:43.640 --> 158:46.400] Was an argument. I mean I have a friend. I'm not gonna play it

— [158:47.800 --> 158:51.140] so I'm just saying more facts will come out but I

— [158:52.060 --> 158:56.300] Don't know If the parents wanted to start with, hey, somebody questioned these 4 white boys,

— [158:56.680 --> 159:00.560] I wouldn't. Oh, that's what I would do as a parent. I'd be suspicious of everything and everybody.

— [159:01.060 --> 159:30.760] I just feel like I'm watching too many people start to say things matter of factly. Like, oh, we know this is foul play. Oh, we know somebody did something to him. And I'm just saying, well, that's that part is the internet is going to say things. And there's a fan. And I just think there's a family on the other side of that that we don't often think of when we're speculating this shit. Somebody know? You know what I mean? Yeah, that's all. Like, I don't see, I'm reading here, the sheriff said that the investigators believe his friends left the island without him because they thought he arranged another ride back to the mainland. Like, see right there, as a parent,

— [159:31.440 --> 159:33.140] if my kid turn up

— [159:33.580 --> 159:35.540] missing, prior to that, missing,

— [159:36.240 --> 159:44.480] and this is what I hear, oh well, we all left because we thought he had another. Yeah, like come on. Come on, dawg. And you know what? On the flip side of that internet argument,

— [159:45.980 --> 159:52.100] like in my friend Ashley's case, No, the parents couldn't come out and say, hey, we think that her white fiance

— [159:52.400 --> 159:53.160] did something.

— [159:54.540 --> 159:58.420] But I don't know if they was upset at the internet saying it. Yes.

— [159:59.460 --> 160:03.060] So it does work both ways. But think about in the Ashley case,

— [160:04.440 --> 160:05.460] the thing that they,

— [160:06.280 --> 160:08.160] the dominant story about what was happening

— [160:08.760 --> 160:10.140] is something that's not comforting.

— [160:10.760 --> 160:19.520] And then the alternative, I don't want to call it conspiracy, the alternative narrative that he did something, in some ways it might be more comforting, sadly, or not more comforting. It might not,

— [160:19.860 --> 160:30.660] like if they're saying to 1 person, saying you committed suicide, the other person saying somebody killed you, both of those are awful stories, you know what I mean? But if I hear the difference between he drowned in a pool, he got a little drunk and drowned in the ocean versus

— [160:31.720 --> 160:35.240] his friends plotted and murdered him or some shit like that. To me,

— [160:36.460 --> 160:37.860] those extremes are

— [160:39.100 --> 160:47.580] different. Well, see, my problem is when, if let's say that happened, hey, he got drunk and drowned in the pool and 1 of the friends tell me that. Yeah.

— [160:48.660 --> 160:53.080] All right, we got something to go on. But when everybody say, oh, we don't know what happened. Right.

— [160:53.560 --> 161:02.660] Like we left him there. It's suspicious. We left him there because we thought he got another ride back. We rode here together. You get what I'm saying? We rode here together. We was a crew and just miraculously,

— [161:03.040 --> 161:05.200] you got another ride back

— [161:05.580 --> 161:14.600] out of the blue. I'm all for questioning. Nobody, like, ain't no, come on. Question them, interrogate them, doubt them, don't disbelieve them, I'm with all of that. Again, I just want to be mindful

— [161:15.040 --> 161:15.540] of

— [161:16.440 --> 161:22.260] who's hearing it on the other end. I remember, this might seem like a far fetch, but remember season 5 of The Wire?

— [161:22.800 --> 161:23.300] Yes.

— [161:24.300 --> 161:28.720] And this is when I 1st thought about this. When McNulty started to make up the homeless murders.

— [161:29.180 --> 161:36.420] And when Kima had to go talk to the families. It was like, all right, they knew the kid was homeless. They knew the kid was on drugs. They knew the kid was fucked up. But now they found out that the kid spent their last days

— [161:36.760 --> 161:53.760] being abused by some crazy syringe, which was made up. Right, it was all made up. So again, they were subjected to, there was a whole other level of trauma that didn't have to happen. And that's the 1st time, I hadn't even thought about that before. Like I never thought about like the families that have to hear the news about people. And so that's all I ever, even as a reporter, when I'm in that capacity,

— [161:54.220 --> 162:05.880] I'm always mindful not to say too much. I get it, cause those are not exact parallels. Yeah, they're not. Because when a lot of times with the family in the wire case, you kind of waiting for that news. Yes.

— [162:06.240 --> 162:08.760] You get what I'm saying? In this case, it's different.

— [162:09.520 --> 162:20.420] So the family might be sitting there like, yeah, nigga, something gotta make sense. Something has to make sense because right now all we got is 1 and 2 and that's not adding up. Yeah

— [162:20.860 --> 162:26.180] hopefully hopefully this all gets dealt with behind the scenes and we get some answers soon. Yeah true.

— [162:26.840 --> 162:31.140] And some accountability soon. I hope whoever if somebody's responsible for this I hope they find

— [162:31.460 --> 162:34.820] out and held them accountable soon. I agree rest in peace. No, yes

— [162:36.660 --> 162:40.280] And thoughts and prayers and in our condolences to his family. Yes

— [162:41.280 --> 162:42.320] Be going through that

— [162:43.440 --> 162:43.940] Thing

— [162:45.100 --> 162:47.800] in closing because I don't have anything else for you, gentlemen.

— [162:48.420 --> 162:49.220] In closing,

— [162:50.080 --> 162:51.160] according to ACK,

— [162:52.840 --> 162:56.360] him and Charlamagne have scheduled a sit down on camera.

— [162:57.180 --> 163:01.120] Is that why you're finally addressing it? Okay. He addresses the address. I'm being sarcastic.

— [163:02.780 --> 163:04.320] The public keeps saying Joe's ducking this conversation.

— [163:05.400 --> 163:20.400] I think you've been responsible. I said every single thing that I want to say on it. You even called act on air. No, I know. I'm just saying because I feel like people want you to be, if you're not in the mess being messy, people act like you're not saying nothing. They want me to shoot at 1 of these guys. They want me to involve myself somehow. Yeah, that's what they want.

— [163:20.740 --> 163:24.740] And they think they could, you're pussy me into doing it.

— [163:25.480 --> 163:26.780] They don't know you. Historically.

— [163:28.440 --> 163:31.680] Sorry. Your pussy has been an effective tactic

— [163:32.220 --> 163:49.900] over the years. Not for you specifically, in general. I mean, that might have worked during movie music. I mean, you pussy works though. Not with you, but it works with me. It works. I've been going to this and that. What? Man, who pussy? They want me to have a reason to shoot a Charlamagne. I have no reason to shoot a troll of me and they want me to have a reason to shoot I don't I don't I don't I don't

— [163:50.240 --> 164:03.420] I'm cool. I wish it wasn't on camera. I mean, I don't want them to no No, it has to be on camera. No, that's the only way that that was all will happen. It does not have to be on camera It does not have oh, yeah, no, I hope it's not I don't want a content. I mean, I want them to do whatever

— [164:07.660 --> 164:08.940] I'm aware. I'm aware

— [164:14.160 --> 164:16.320] Neither 1 of them to me has crossed

— [164:17.280 --> 164:28.300] They were hard and there's been lines that disagree. I totally disagree No from or I'll put it this way if y'all are gonna do that on camera I would want y'all to have a conversation prior. They've spoken already.

— [164:28.680 --> 164:34.740] They've spoken prior. It ain't we shooting at each other. Now we sitting down. They've been talking behind the scenes.

— [164:35.340 --> 164:38.120] This all started because they spoke behind the scenes.

— [164:38.500 --> 164:43.940] It started because according to Axe, Charlamagne called and said, yo, what's some shit going on? You better watch out. It started, they talking.

— [164:44.760 --> 165:01.020] Talk, Get to the bottom of it. We'll never get resolve or closure or finality if y'all don't sit down. So yeah, go ahead, sit down, talk. I just don't think anything is for the... I know, I know, I know where y'all stand, but I'm on the other side of that. Well, no, I don't think everything is for the internet. No, I'm saying for content.

— [165:01.560 --> 165:04.900] I don't think everything is for content. This is for content.

— [165:05.780 --> 165:07.280] This is content brisket.

— [165:08.100 --> 165:11.020] This is short rib, fire up the grill.

— [165:11.600 --> 165:12.700] Slow on low.

— [165:13.680 --> 165:14.180] Yeah,

— [165:14.680 --> 165:17.380] it's happening. Both these dudes fresh off vacation.

— [165:18.520 --> 165:19.280] They recharged,

— [165:19.760 --> 165:20.260] refueled.

— [165:20.860 --> 165:21.360] Yes,

— [165:21.740 --> 165:24.580] come waste your vacation energy on war.

— [165:27.700 --> 165:28.440] Content wars.

— [165:28.780 --> 165:29.280] Yeah.

— [165:30.060 --> 165:31.800] What a world we live in. I know.

— [165:32.740 --> 165:40.940] Word. I'm so glad to not have to be in a war with nobody. All niggas I would say, I wouldn't have been in a war. I'm chilling, man. This is great. I used to a couple wars.

— [165:41.500 --> 165:44.020] Yeah, it was. A war? Oh, well, it's happened.

— [165:44.580 --> 165:59.140] Yeah. It has happened. It feels good to not be, to watch from the side of the road driving by the car wreck like oh look that was a bad 1 They hit the divider. Look yo that shit flipped over look Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why would I why would you want to jump in beef at 46

— [165:59.460 --> 166:00.380] in the summer?

— [166:01.660 --> 166:02.160] True

— [166:02.580 --> 166:03.080] rich

— [166:04.160 --> 166:06.100] That part right and they all rich.

— [166:07.020 --> 166:08.800] Richer than you, in fact. It's like,

— [166:09.560 --> 166:10.960] at some point you just...

— [166:12.010 --> 166:12.510] I

— [166:13.560 --> 166:14.060] had

— [166:15.109 --> 166:15.609] to

— [166:16.660 --> 166:17.160] start

— [166:18.210 --> 166:18.710] at

— [166:19.760 --> 166:20.280] my bitch.

— [166:21.400 --> 166:22.960] I'm trying to secure my investment.

— [166:24.340 --> 166:25.260] What's up, Flip?

— [166:25.740 --> 166:27.020] I'm not with y'all.

— [166:27.380 --> 166:28.820] He said, I'm not with y'all.

— [166:29.980 --> 166:31.820] All eyes on me, McAvely.

— [166:34.440 --> 166:36.760] No, you ain't. Pals to the people we back to DuMain.

— [166:37.500 --> 166:38.380] Oh, shit.

— [166:38.720 --> 167:03.340] So, listen, shout out Charlemagne, shout out Act. I'll be watching. I'm even putting it on my big screen. For sure. Yo, how's the Joe Button community thing doing? Shout out to the Joe Button community. Shout out to Pring. He killed that, killed that. Pring smoked that off. 4th of July, 5th of July. He's got a show this week, I'm going home. Go Pring, but yeah, it's doing good. Shout out to community. Shout out to Joe Button community. Shout out to all the Joe Button community. Are you, Have you signed up yet? I'm over there, but they don't believe it's me.

— [167:03.660 --> 167:04.380] Ha ha ha.

— [167:06.140 --> 167:07.620] God, it's funny. You active?

— [167:08.300 --> 167:15.760] Yeah. And they don't think it's you? That's why I stopped being active. Right. I'm over there, fuck, community in my life away. They like, oh, fuck off. Where's your buddy?

— [167:16.100 --> 167:23.340] Oh, shit. So I got to wait till I get my badge or whatever we're coming up with to let you use your car page

— [167:27.260 --> 167:31.520] Shout out to all each and every 1 of the Joe Budden community

— [167:32.720 --> 167:35.940] Let whether it's led by Joe Budden and

— [167:36.400 --> 167:41.540] Ian, or led by fans, Michelle Dolo. They $500 worth, though, I tell you that.

— [167:42.000 --> 167:43.660] I watch 1 dude on YouTube. Yo,

— [167:44.240 --> 167:55.020] it was just a 20 minute clip of the show. I was like, what the fuck? I was counting their pockets too. They just stepping away. I was like, I was counting views. I was like, this ain't a good investment. I can't wait to the 6 month nigga. I was counting their shit too. You flip, yeah use me. Hey use a lot of me. This shit is so uncreative

— [167:56.720 --> 167:57.340] now and shit.

— [167:59.560 --> 168:04.620] They just Take 50 minutes of the show and just post it. Shout out to all the Clippers out there

— [168:05.460 --> 168:10.420] doing it, killing that shit. We get an employee discount on that. Y'all killing it. It's too much inside baseball.

— [168:11.920 --> 168:13.400] Keep killing that shit, y'all.

— [168:13.780 --> 168:14.880] That's what I got.

— [168:16.380 --> 168:23.500] It's been a good day, man. It's been a good 1. It's been a good 1. I think so. I think it's been an amazing day. Tighty, you get me tighty.

— [168:24.160 --> 168:27.140] Have my nephew. Come on, yo. Listen, man,

— [168:28.180 --> 168:33.140] we have finally come to an end. Every time I say we're not getting 3 hours, they get 3 hours.

— [168:34.080 --> 168:37.700] I knew you said we were they was getting 3 out Look at that topic board

— [168:38.240 --> 168:51.780] We amazing everybody that time was yellow for that to be the boys. No, honestly We go unless I should never doubt it when y'all got the part of them. I mean Joe was like I'm hotter than money. I don't need to go 3 hours no more and I was like No, I get what he said. I'm not hungry. Look at the field

— [168:52.880 --> 168:54.020] Phone you be reading

— [168:55.980 --> 168:57.620] You you be bodying that shit

— [168:58.280 --> 168:58.780] Yo

— [168:59.840 --> 169:00.820] Listen man

— [169:01.400 --> 169:03.760] hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast

— [169:04.080 --> 169:06.980] as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you.

— [169:07.380 --> 169:07.880] Hey,

— [169:08.260 --> 169:11.980] keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time,

— [169:12.620 --> 169:14.920] I bid you adieu, farewell, adios,

— [169:15.260 --> 169:20.780] arriba, dirce, Hasta la vista, Au revoir, so long, goodbye, or simple head novels suffice,

— [169:21.180 --> 169:21.680] ego,

— [169:22.560 --> 169:23.060] hey!

— [169:24.180 --> 169:27.200] Remember, life is a series of moments and moments past,

— [169:27.720 --> 169:31.440] so let's make this 1 last as if it's all we

— [169:31.940 --> 169:32.440] have.

— [169:36.600 --> 169:46.240] Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure, the stagnant women wanna travel, and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things, grab you a Tylenol, you just might need it.

— [169:47.040 --> 169:58.460] What's y'all plans for the week? Anything interesting? Working, baby. Working, working on the Eden Marshall. Never not working. Never not working. All right. That's it. B.P. Enjoying these last kids. 3 days, man. That's it. You hear this thing, J.B.P.

— [169:58.840 --> 170:01.180] Shut the fuck up. That's right. That's right, Flip.

— [170:01.520 --> 170:08.460] Oh, man. Hey, I'm trying to get to it, Dreezy. They didn't counter sign the contract yet. You motivated me man, huh? Did the Izzy shit all inked up like counter signing everything?

— [170:08.860 --> 170:09.560] With him?

— [170:10.420 --> 170:23.360] Yeah. I don't know. You got YG in. I trust my man, I trust my man man. If there's anybody I trust, I trust them. Regardless if I look at them with the side eye, I trust them. That's what's up. Cause I'm gonna go out there and get it. I already know.

— [170:23.700 --> 170:30.760] Talk to them. That part. I'm saying? And then I'm gonna come back here and drag my nuts on the floor, and they can just walk bad slow, bitch.

— [170:31.520 --> 170:39.240] Try to get a reaction, but yeah, you gon' give it to me. We love Flip, man. I love y'all too, I'm happy. Love you, Flip. Barks, what are you on the rest of the week? I'm gonna see Prima at Webster

— [170:40.680 --> 170:43.660] Hall or whatever. That's Thursday night. Prima and Alchemist.

— [170:44.420 --> 170:49.120] Nice. I'll do that, I'll be in the studio working. Regular shit. I'm gonna f*** that. Yeah, come on. Nice.

— [170:49.660 --> 171:02.580] Mark, you work, work. Ian and Mark show and we taping all week. We get a couple episodes done. Streets waiting. Streets is waiting. Yeah. Heard y'all got some heat. We do man. If I can get in focused you know I mean we be alright. Yeah he all over the place.

— [171:03.320 --> 171:07.100] He's a busy man. I'm with his house. He's a busy man. He got some card shit.

— [171:08.140 --> 171:10.880] He got mad shit. He got this little laugh.

— [171:11.600 --> 171:18.020] I wanted to slap you, nigga. Try to get you to lay down on the bed and talk to me. Lay down and feel this.

— [171:18.480 --> 171:20.280] Oh, this track. No, not now.

— [171:21.020 --> 171:36.520] Oh, you did get your contract. That's a lot of shit. He got him. Not laid with him. He said, lay down on his bed and feel this. He's like, yo, I want you to see what this bed does. So I laid down. I gotta show you how this man works, dog. You press the buttons, you got instantly. He put some buttons on it.

— [171:37.600 --> 171:38.360] You got your

— [171:38.800 --> 171:40.940] deals done. I got my deals done. I got other deals, nigga.

— [171:41.460 --> 171:44.280] Watch it, fuck. How many deals you got? Not that many.

— [171:45.820 --> 171:47.920] You do E&M on show. I don't want no deal like that.

— [171:48.820 --> 171:52.140] He got you a 360, boy. I know how Ian and Mark are dropping.

— [171:54.140 --> 172:00.580] Damn. Ian and Mark's show. Hey, yo, turn this... What happened, man? We done. We just ended. We just ended.

— [172:01.760 --> 172:04.740] You should have the Tony, Tony, Tony, man. Who's got the pillow?

— [172:07.060 --> 172:07.840] We either, but.

— [172:08.420 --> 172:11.900] Y'all hold it down. We'll be back same time, same place this weekend.

— [172:15.060 --> 172:15.560] No,

— [172:18.940 --> 172:21.040] no, no, no, no, no no, no, no.

— [172:22.707 --> 172:23.207] No,

— [172:24.873 --> 172:25.373] no,

— [172:27.040 --> 172:27.700] no, no, no,

— [172:28.280 --> 172:28.780] no.

— [172:30.600 --> 172:33.420] Not for telly. You ever heard of Joe Bunny?

— [172:35.100 --> 172:37.360] JPB, JPB, where would you be without JPB?

— [172:39.760 --> 172:43.940] We'll fold that up right now I'm from the webbing nitty-nitty era it's the network

— [172:46.980 --> 172:48.080] no Joe Bunny

— [173:00.060 --> 173:01.220] Thank you.

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